View Full Version : Ford crate vs 604

05-14-2010, 11:25 AM
Wondering what the difference/advantages/disadvantages are.

Also the Ford crates are allowed 1" more engine setback than Chevy crates..What is the reason for rules like this?

Any opinions?

05-14-2010, 12:13 PM
where is this rule at ? noone runs the ford around here

05-14-2010, 06:36 PM
The set back is because the ford engine is heaver, NASCAR late models use to let mopar and ford face of block to LF ball joint,

05-16-2010, 09:16 AM
whoever told you that a ford motor is heavier is a dumbass, the ford motor is lighter, especially if he is talking about the 347 crate engine, however the windsor is also lighter than a sbc by close to 20 pounds if both have aluminum intakes, the 347 is closer to 60 pounds lighter than the sbc

to answer the question on the engine set backs, this rule was implemented by asphalt late model groups to keep the field a bit more diverse, the ford and mopar was given an extra 2" er so of set back simply to encourage some of the guys to go that way.... god knows fans do not get to see good racing on the black top, they might as well give them some brand loyalty to root for lol

05-16-2010, 07:34 PM
thanks for the replies.

There is only 1 crate late in this class. It is the 347.

Last nite during a 100 lap main, the crate passed the top 3 while on the outside. Lost lead going thru traffic. Again passed leader on the outside.

The crate was running against open motors.

05-17-2010, 11:06 AM
Odd when the only crate motor is setting fast time against guys who dominate everywhere else...:rolleyes:

05-17-2010, 08:53 PM
from what i hear those 347 crates are quite badass

05-17-2010, 11:58 PM
After one race they are readjusting the weight brake. It was 150 lbs.

The way I see it they should keep that for the 604 (none currently run)

but for the 347, add 60 lbs for the block.

add 5-10 lbs for the aluminum water pump.

and add a couple lbs for the 15 extra hp.

So they should adjust the weightbreak to 75 lbs. but they will prolly keep it at 100.