GRT spindle question

[racer21]

I have a older grt latemodel(98) and was wondering how to tell if it has the correct spendles on it,i dont know the history of the car so i dont know if they are right or wrong and
i've noticed they have different options for the car,also would the setup sheet on there website be close to what i should start with? Thanks in advance

[sj valley dave]

Unless something has been changed on your car, you are on the 96 black spindle front geometry. Just measure the height between the top and bottom ball joint, call GRT and they will get you a spindle..

[racer21]

Thanks for the info,should it have something better on it or was the 96 black just the standard stuff,i dont have one bent i am trying to learn a little about the fronts of these cars
without breaking the bank,last time i talked to grt they told me it was so old that they couldnt help because they didnt know what had been done to the car over the years!! i bet
if i was buying a new one they would want to talk,thanks again

[sj valley dave]

Try them again...We have a 1998 that has 2007 updates in the rear for pick up points with a 820HP 421" SB2.2 and we can hang with the new Billy Moyer Victory Circles out here in the West once in awhile..LOL....The "black" 96 spindles was the standard GRT front spindle till about 2007-2008..I'm sure there is someone on this board that can give you accurate info on when they went to the "gray" spindle. I'm sure you're on a black 96 ...they did have std and tall spindles..just measure between the upper and lower ball joints and call them...

[racer21]

Thanks sj valley for the info,do you have any rear centering info trying to make sure the rear is in the correct location,thanks again

[sj valley dave]

I can't remember what the distance is supposed to be between underslung and QC bell...But if your rear end has the original 33/35" axles in it, it should have a J Bar at 18 1/4" per Skip....Newer GRT had a 34/35 combo..

[SS Motorsports]

Call Skip with any questions he is a little more willing to stay on the phone and talk things through and get you sorted out and on the right track. As nice as Joe and everyone is at GRT, they want product moving out the door,

[racer21]

Thanks guys anyone know skip's number? Thanks again

[SS Motorsports]

Skip's # is 501-326-2322

[414banger]

dont mean to hijack thread but i just traded for a grt roller the guy told me it was a 2000 but the number on it is 543 does that sound right thanks in advance

[billetbirdcage]

It's a 95 or 96, I had an early 95 that was 564 I think if I remember correctly. A 2000 would have 1.25" rails under the rear end, not the 1.5" one yours most likely has.

[billetbirdcage]

To the OP'er:

Standard rear end's were 34/35 and the offset cars are 33/36 (generally only 2000 and new before then became an option. However back in 95 there was an option for a 1" shorter LR on the STD 34/35 that was 33/35. This was an option thru 97 or so, but not used after the 95 thru 96 years much. The LR 4-link brackets were moved left 1" to make this work on these 33/35 cars.

[414banger]

ok i had a 2001 and it was 863 wasnt sure

[sj valley dave]

If you has number 863, it was not a 2001...Our chassis is 1134, double checked it with GRT and they said that 1134 was a late 98 or early 99...They have on their records as # 1145 as the first of the 1999's. Our 98 has the 33/35 axle lengths...#863 has to be 96-97 chassis..

[414banger]

they must have started over or something then because the 01 i had i got off of the guy i worked for and i went it picked it up with him brand new in 2001

[racer21]

My car is 1063 and they said it was a late 97 early 98 and was built for buddie oliver,:)

[racer21]

Well back to the spindle deal,the spendle's on my car are 10.5 and 11 inches 11 n the left front is this correct and where's the best place to get replacement's thanks in advance
sorry to sound like a big dummy im just not familer with the late model stuff,but do know mods only reason for the latemodel is the mods are dying out at local track and i don't
like the expense of traveling 2 hours one way everyweek,thanks

[mqdirtracer57]

The heights sound correct. PPM in Tennessee has them at great prices...877-560-0619

[billetbirdcage]

Spindles: If you want to get precise the LF is 10.875 and the RF is 10.125, however they will vary some (as much as .400" that I've measured over the years - all GRT manufactured spindles).

414banger: you can check with GRT but numbers listed by other posters are correct. GRT did not ever start over with numbers, they did skip some numbers but never went backwards. They would assign a number to a car ordered and if the order was cancelled they didn't build one with that number.

They build about 50 cars before they started numbering cars, I have owned several over the years and here are some numbers (appox) for certain years

94 = 134
95 = 354
96 = 500-700+ (They built a lot of car this year)
semi early 99 = 1214

I think you are mistaken or got told something wrong as I'm 100% sure there is no way either of the 2 car numbers you listed could be anything newer then a 98. However the only way to find out is to call GRT. Hopefully if you were purposely mislead on the car you bought, maybe you can get something worked out with the seller.

Good Luck

[sj valley dave]

Unfortunately billetbirdcage is 100% correct...they never started over in their numbering system...there are some shenanigans going on with someone...IMO back to spindles, TWM made spindles for GRT for quite some time also

[414banger]

after further investigation the car is a 95 but ohwell it looks to be very well taken care of and never bent and has not been updated could anybody steer me toward a setup for this car as far as bar lenghts and such any help would be appreciated

[racer21]

414 good luck with trying to get any info from grt ive tryed several times and they always take my num and will call me back guess there calling the wrong num,what little bit you
can get from these boards will be a big help i bet if i was ordering a new car grt would have time to talk,but if i ever do get a new one i promise it wont be grt!! good luck

[washeduptoo]

See if BilletBirdcage will help you, he knows what he is talking about. Good luck.

[sj valley dave]

Does it still have the 16 5/8" LF and 17 5/8" RF lower arms and the long 10" upper arms on the inside of the uprights? Also rear links, 15" lower and 17" uppers with a 1/4" longer on right side?

[racer21]

Yes sj you are correct it is excatly that,

[washeduptoo]

Sounds like SJ knows that car too.

[sj valley dave]

racer21...check your PM's..

[racer21]

sj i have no messages,

[sj valley dave]

Don't know what happened... I'll try again

[sj valley dave]

I have no idea what is going on with this board!!...Just PM'd you again and it does not show sent in my box...We have an old 98 with 2008 updates front and rear...be happy to help you any way I can..we run in the Super Late Model class....e mail is sjvalleydave@yahoo.com if you have any questions...