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84Dave
02-21-2013, 09:23 AM
I personally have ZERO experience in the Subject area. Does anyone out there use an external-drive wet-sump pump on their 2.3L Ford? Manufacturer(s) of the pump? Regulator required or regulator built into the pump? Driven from the snout of the crank or the aux-drive? Do's and Dont's? Cost? Experienced results? Thanks...... 84Dave

RACEMAN
02-21-2013, 02:59 PM
Dave,

Trying to understand what you have.

It sounds like you have a pump located/mounted inside the oil pan/block area but driven from an external source but not the distributor.

Is that correct?

84Dave
02-21-2013, 04:27 PM
RaceMan.....no, no pump mounted inside the pan. A pump mounted external to the pan, a single feed line from the pan into the pump, and a single line pump exit back to the engine/oil filter. No scavenge lines or external oil tank as would be had with a dry-sump pump/system. A gent from Australia is asking, and I've never used an externally-mounted wet-sump pump. -Dave-

dannyracer6
02-21-2013, 11:46 PM
Dave,
the late 2.5 ford motors have a oil pump system driven off the aux shaft. It is a direct pump, not driven with a dist drive. Totally different than what normally runs the oil pump that we know. I dont know how you would do it externally wet sump. D oesnt make sense to me, that much wet oil that it would require would be bad if you blew one up in a race. Not sure what or why the guy wants to do it. The late pump system with the internal pump is pretty close to the idea with out having an external pump. I may be telling you what you already know, but I felt like jumping in. I am working on a pro4 truck out here. Guess I cant get enough of this stuff.

Dan

mike22l
02-22-2013, 08:08 PM
Hi Dave,

I have an external pump that we use to use on 350's when they said we had to run wet sump...until they seen it and said nope, cant do that....its been awhile but I still have the pan and pump drive...I'll take some pics and send it to your e-mail. neat little set up.

Mike

Big E tech
02-23-2013, 11:02 PM
Hey 84Dave, Tell David to keep running his M86E pumps. We've run Barnes single stage external pumps on the Aluminum block engines when we wanted them to be wetsump... It's a lot of hassle for not a lot of gain on the iron block 2.3's.By the way, Tim just won his 7th straight main event entered with that 2.3 powered RWD Escort! Seems he likes the 2.6L with the twin Weber 50's on methanol... David messaged me and said Tim won all three heat races tonight AND the main event!!!

dannyracer6
02-24-2013, 10:27 AM
Big E,
Thanks for sending the pinto shield, tell me where did the guy get a rwd escort. That sounds like a fun project. would like to try that one.

Danny

Big E tech
02-24-2013, 07:47 PM
The first couple generations of Escorts weren't available here in the US. The Weir family's Escort is a Mk 2. They may have been available in Mexico, but not here in the US...
Big E, Thanks for sending the pinto shield, tell me where did the guy get a rwd escort. That sounds like a fun project. would like to try that one. Danny