tight getting in help

[360Mod]

Im new to modifieds i have a dw-11 and im consistently to tight getting in and through the middle. Is ghere any chassis changes that will help? 4 bar both sides. Maybe my driving im not sure. Thanks

[oldtrackchamp4x]

You need to list ALL your setup numbers before anyone can help you. JMO

[junebug]

There's a ton of things u can do to free up entry...u can raise jbar on both sides...raise rr lower bar add wedge soften lf spring soften rr spring...theres a huge list but give us some of ur info and maybe we can see if anything jumps out at us

[jsf74]

Before you change anything how are you entering the corner and driving thru. These cars need driven hard to work right. I struggled with the same thing last season and it started to get better the more laps I turned.

[jsf74]

Another suggestion starts at post #1 and start reading and saving info. It's helped me a TON!!!

[HEAVY DUTY]

You need to check on the mechanical aspect of the car first. Make sure you dont have a brake drag issue ( stuck caliper or master cyl) which can cause a push. Make sure your front end is right ( camber, caster, and toe) check your shocks and coilover eliminators and make sure they are good, and not bent. After eliminating those possibilities, make sure that your left rear isnt falling down on corner entry ( which takes rear steer out, and causes car to pull to the right) before trying to adjust the tightness out with bar angles. I see so many people try to adjust problems by creating an opposite problem, and all they really need is maintanence. This is especially true when bying a used car.

[360Mod]

Ok sorry should have put this.Lf 650# rf750#Lf 4 shock rf 5 shock1" stagger in frontLr225# rr175#Lr7-2 shock rr4 shock1 1/2" stagger in rearWheel weights are:Lf 512 rf 433Lr 660 rr 615Left % 52.70Cross % 49.27Rear % 57.47Pinoin angle 8`Anything else?

[360Mod]

Also right upper bar 16'Right lower 2'Left upper 20'Left lower 5'It may have alot to do with me being a rookie and not driving it in on the gas enough

[mod88s]

drop your rf to 700 or 650. drop lr to 200. Left side % looks good. Increase your bite to about 80 lbs. How much trail are you running on right side? I would put about 3/8 inch depening on shape of your track. You are not far off so I am inclined to believe it could be your driving. Is the track tacky or dry? My DW 11 always liked 650 RF 700 LF 200's across the rear.. bout the same %'s as your have except I ran more bite, 100lbs or so.

[360Mod]

Track usually dries out i have about 3/8 rear trail. Its a 3/8 highbanked track

[oldtrackchamp4x]

Agree with mod 88s, especially on front springs 650 rf 700 lf and LR bite. JMO

[setup479point2]

Raise both right rods on chassis , upper to top hole , lower up 1 hole. Raise j-bar up i" on pinion. LF 750 or 700 spring , 5 shock , RF 650 spring , 4-7 shock or just the 4-4 , LR 175 spring , 4 shock , RR 200 or 225 spring , 4 or 5 shock . This should turn in better , and be a little calmer till you get used to the way these drive . The 7-2 on LR will make you tight in if you aren't driving it right. You should also make sure your brakes are working properly, balance bar working , 3 wheel not bleeding by valve , are you on more rear brake ( should be ).

[360Mod]

Yea im probly 80-90% rear brake. So qhat yall arr sayin is that the lf should be stiffer than rf?

[setup479point2]

If you setup the car like I just posted , and you are still tight , then something is wrong. Try it and then get back to us. You have just started driving , in my opinion , the hardest cars to setup on dirt, and I've worked on everything. So be patient , it will take awhile.

[junebug]

Ione bug thing I thk were missing is jbar height/angle....spring oackagaes are so dependent on roll center locations....that could be entire prob if it has too much rake or is too low

[jsf74]

On my car what made the biggest difference was moving the j bar up 1 hole on the pinion. No matter what I did I couldn't get the feel I wanted but with this change it was night and day. Also you could increase your rear stagger. That will loosen the car everywhere until you start driving faster.

[360Mod]

thanks for all the imput guys i honestly think most of the problem is me not being on the gas going in. but il be trying these setups and adjustments. thanks again

[Egoracing]

Does 57% rear seem high to anyone? Also are you going into the corner on the brake and if so how hard? If you put the heavier spring on the RF when you slow with the brakes the LF will pick up more weight and cause the car to want to turn into the corner.

[powerslide]

Does 57% rear seem high to anyone? Also are you going into the corner on the brake and if so how hard? If you put the heavier spring on the RF when you slow with the brakes the LF will pick up more weight and cause the car to want to turn into the corner.

i didnt see anyone ask if he was clamped in front or floated behind on the LR either. Where is the LR shock in front or behind? I see your name is 360 mod that is the name of a limited type of mod around here. Are you limited on power? Ballast mounted high or low?

On the rear% if he is on alky i would say 57% is ok. Maybe a little high if using gas

[dirttrackrocker]

I can't believe you all missed the obvious "THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!"

Sorry, couldn't help myself..... Carry On :)

[jsf74]

I Kept that to myself but now that it's out there lol!!