Lanigan camber

[zeke23z]

What is it?Looks like a (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)load from Kville tonight.Whats the most you have ever tried and what was the result when you went that far?

[Matt49]

Most of what you are seeing is camber gain as suspension travels, not static camber. And a great deal of that is an optical illusion because you are seeing the angle between the body and the wheel, not the angle between the wheel and the racetrack.

[hucktyson]

Yeah he's actually running zero degree of static camber it's all an " optical illusion " lol

[hucktyson]

Just like it appears Lexington Steele has a giant hog .... It's only because his skin is black ... It's an optical illusion !!!

[Matt49]

Yeah...because that's what I said. I said he was running zero degrees of static camber. I even went back and checked my original post to make SURE I said that exact thing..........oh.....wait a minute....I never said that.

Since your sarcasm implies that you apparently know everything and I'm just a babbling idiot, why don't you answer the original poster's question and explain what is at all incorrect about my explanation of what he is likely seeing in the videos. That is if you actually know what camber gain and body roll are.

P.S. You ever wonder why the tech section of 4M went from dozens of new posts per day, to now often going days without a single post?
Hint: Sarcastic, know-it-all's, like you that want to tear down anything constructive that someone might have to say.

Head on back to the gossip section. You fit in nicely there.

[Matt49]

Zeke,
To answer the second part of your question...if you get too much camber in the RF under racing conditions (factoring in camber gain and body roll), you will end up with a push because you will overload the inside of the RF tire and could overheat it if your on soft stuff. Carefully inspecting your tire wear is the best way to monitor for this. Or better yet, check your tire temperatures across the surface of the RF after the race as long as your are confident you haven't gone through any puddles or anything.

[zeroracing]

I had too google it, not up to date on men's junk, but was that a large black porn actor reference... I am not sure how to respond to that except Matt49 hit the nail on the head about why post drop off.

This forum needs more racing, less compairing of men's "hogs".

[latemodels4life]

HUCKTYSON learn how to read!!!! Matt49 you will find huck is a blabber mouth,his wife tells him what to do and how to do it at home so this is the only place he can try and feel like a man making in fun of peoples posts!!!!! Its no wounder huck isn't racing because he cant read setup sheets. Matt49 what you said made perfect sense to normal people that can read.

[hucktyson]

Are you saying that the club 29 cars aren't running at least 6.5 degrees of static camber on the right front ?

[zeroracing]

Are you saying that the club 29 cars aren't running at least 6.5 degrees of static camber on the right front ?

Anybody have a good front on shot from the pits? You could measure across the decking, most cars will be 35-36" tall at top of doors, so set that as your somewhat square line, then measure off that. Rear spoiler is usually within 1" of level on most cars also.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Are you saying that the club 29 cars aren't running at least 6.5 degrees of static camber on the right front ?

They definitely are. I have seen guys with at least 8. I have a pretty good eye for that stuff.

[7uptruckracer]

There are alot of variables at work here with the new soft RF spring setups your getting a lot of travel. Some aren't running the camber gains they use to and run more static so its at almost mid corner camber out the gate. You want the camber but you don't want to much gain because a tire that is transitioning can have a problem holding the race track. Some still are running the gain on paper but when the car pulls down and stays down for the entire time its on the track transitioning isnt an issue read your wear and temps. 5.5-6 isn't un heard of on both sides of the car just their respective positive or negative numbers.

[Matt49]

Anybody know what the static upper control arm angle is on the RF of one of those Rockets?

[Garrettshurling]

On my Swartz, I run 5 deg of static camber. from the look of it that is on the low side to what most of my friends with rockets are running. Do you think having too much camber could have a negative effect on initial turn in? I think modest static angles and more progressive dynamic camber is probably the better way to go.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

On my Swartz, I run 5 deg of static camber. from the look of it that is on the low side to what most of my friends with rockets are running. Do you think having too much camber could have a negative effect on initial turn in? I think modest static angles and more progressive dynamic camber is probably the better way to go.

I believe it can. This is something I have been thinking about.

[7uptruckracer]

I believe it can. This is something I have been thinking about.

I'm not so sure a tire that is in transition can sometimes give up grip if its gaining to much at one time in the wrong spot. Your going to lose 1-2 maybe more degrees of your static with some roll then start to gain it back when the RF goes into dive. Maybe they learned they were not reaching their optimal camber gain so they are starting higher Rockets we are up to + and -5.5 on the fronts.

[let-r-eat]

Depends on the load on the contact patch. Slow track different than fast and flat track different than one with banking. I don't see a generic camber curve working everywhere.

[jedclampit]

I will say this, I know of a team.... or two running static #'s off the scale of most of the mass marketed measuring devices.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I will say this, I know of a team.... or two running static #'s off the scale of most of the mass marketed measuring devices.

I haven't been able to use mine all season. LOL

[grt74]

if we are at a new track we put a new tire on the rf and take temps and look at the tire and adjust from there,with hard tires some teams do what it takes to get heat in them,just food for thought