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DirtRacer2014
11-05-2013, 12:35 PM
Pennsylvania Democrat Mike Doyle, who earns $174,000 as a U.S. Representative, told Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius that he was glad to see that ObamaCare would subsidize their self-employed son’s health care premiums…which he and his wife pay. It was during a recent House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing that the Congressman stated that his son, who pays a mere $140/month for Blue Cross health insurance, would receive a subsidy via the government-run healthcare website. Of course this begs the question as to why Doyle and his wife are paying premiums for their 33-year old adult son. But also, here’s a couple who is earning $174,000 per year just from Mr. Doyle’s salary and the American taxpayers are going to essentially subsidize Mr. and Mrs. Doyle’s charity towards their son. Doyle complained about the cumbersome process of using the website to Secretary Sebelius, grumbling that is was difficult to use and that, regarding their son, “we had to prod him to go on that site and enroll.” He went on to say that young people, apparently like his 33-year old son, are “not going to do it unless it’s easy.”

Clayton_Wetter
11-05-2013, 05:21 PM
33 year old and self employed. Probably a liberal leftist in a basement blogging all day. lol

They protect and reward their own.

kidrock
11-05-2013, 06:06 PM
Pennsylvania Democrat Mike Doyle, who earns $174,000 as a U.S. Representative, told Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius that he was glad to see that ObamaCare would subsidize their self-employed son’s health care premiums…which he and his wife pay. It was during a recent House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing that the Congressman stated that his son, who pays a mere $140/month for Blue Cross health insurance, would receive a subsidy via the government-run healthcare website. Of course this begs the question as to why Doyle and his wife are paying premiums for their 33-year old adult son. But also, here’s a couple who is earning $174,000 per year just from Mr. Doyle’s salary and the American taxpayers are going to essentially subsidize Mr. and Mrs. Doyle’s charity towards their son. Doyle complained about the cumbersome process of using the website to Secretary Sebelius, grumbling that is was difficult to use and that, regarding their son, “we had to prod him to go on that site and enroll.” He went on to say that young people, apparently like his 33-year old son, are “not going to do it unless it’s easy.”

140 a month now that's affordable healthcare. And that's from this stupid liberal lol.

mudslinger47
11-05-2013, 08:16 PM
Kid, it was one of them, junk policies you blame on the Republicans LOL

kidrock
11-05-2013, 09:15 PM
Kid, it was one of them, junk policies you blame on the Republicans LOL


No, your wrong Mud never blamed the Republicans for any insurance policies. I never knew they even wrote insurance policies. I though they insurance companies did that. Now if we really had affordable insurance like the policy this kid had we all could benefit from it not this B.S. they are doing to people right now. And this from this stupid liberal.

mudslinger47
11-05-2013, 11:35 PM
From your mouth to God's ears....

t.nie
11-06-2013, 09:47 AM
But also, here’s a couple who is earning $174,000 per year just from Mr. Doyle’s salary and the American taxpayers are going to essentially subsidize Mr. and Mrs. Doyle’s charity towards their son.

This is really a ridiculous statement. What, so now anyone who gets elected and gets paid the right wingers think they can dictate to them what they do with their salary?

If the guy was giving $50000 a year to his church, would you frame that as "the taxpayer subsidizing his charity to his church?" If he decided to spend $100000 on a sports car, would you call that "taxpayer subsidizing his purchase of a luxury car?"

Seriously. The party of "small government" sure wants to dictate a LOT to individuals, don't they?

Bubstr
11-06-2013, 12:31 PM
This is really a ridiculous statement. What, so now anyone who gets elected and gets paid the right wingers think they can dictate to them what they do with their salary?

If the guy was giving $50000 a year to his church, would you frame that as "the taxpayer subsidizing his charity to his church?" If he decided to spend $100000 on a sports car, would you call that "taxpayer subsidizing his purchase of a luxury car?"

Seriously. The party of "small government" sure wants to dictate a LOT to individuals, don't they?

Ding Ding Ding, t.nie, don't confuse them with logic. If they where capable of logic, they wouldn't repeat such ridiculous statements. The sheep on both sides, fail to ask the valid questions when getting any information. This is a good example of slanting by guilt by association. It wouldn't have the same effect if this person had a R behind his name, or if the parents didn't make a good income. I can see it now. Poor struggling, republican, parents save a few bucks on son's insurance. Kind of takes the bite out of the statement.

DirtRacer2014
11-06-2013, 12:36 PM
Spin it any way you want but it still shows the Character of your party..the something for nothing party the party of you owe me something the party of misfits!

DirtRacer2014
11-06-2013, 12:37 PM
If there is one lesson yesterday's VA Governor's race taught us, let it be this; the real fight is not the Republicans versus the Democrats but the crony elitists versus the American people. Either way the fight continues. There's no finish line, there's no saved by the bell. Dust off and get off the mat, there's always one more round to fight.

Bubstr
11-06-2013, 01:14 PM
If there is one lesson yesterday's VA Governor's race taught us, let it be this; the real fight is not the Republicans versus the Democrats but the crony elitists versus the American people. Either way the fight continues. There's no finish line, there's no saved by the bell. Dust off and get off the mat, there's always one more round to fight.


Are you saying, the crony capitalists have infiltrated the republican party? News flash, they have infiltrated the democratic party also. Your tea party was stupid to join the republicans. It has made them untrustworthy and ineffective. They would have been better of to combine with the occupy movement and libertarians. You know they aren't controlled by the elitists. They may have had policy problems, but they wouldn't have the big money elitist controlling them. What's good for the country is a balance of these three organizations anyway.

t.nie
11-06-2013, 03:04 PM
The Tea Party IS the infiltration by capitalists and big business into the Republican party. The game when you start to lose the popular vote is to keep enough traction to stave off change for as long as possible.

If you are steaming along, taking ground, kicking butt and taking names and its all going your way, you keep going. When you finally run out of steam and forward progress stops, you do whatever it takes to keep from losing ground and getting pushed backwards.

Republicans are no longer in favor, their "trickle down" theory is bust, it's over. The nation sees the playing field is tilted in favor of the wealthy, tax code lets the wealthy pay less, corporate welfare subsidizes and funds projects that help the wealthy get wealthier, the whole game is played by the rich for the rich and middle America by electing Obama sent a clear message that we weren't going to let it continue.

Don't forget that if Obama got his way, the wealthy would be paying a lot more in taxes, the stimulus would have been more, Obamacare would not exist but Single payer would be the law of the land, etc. NONE of this favors the RICH.

So saying both parties are owned by wealthy elites is partially true, but not all wealthy elites see things the same way. Some see their mission is to get and keep as much as they can and stomp on everyone else, however others do not see that as good for them or America.

If you look at what Obama would have done left to his own agenda completely, we would have a far different country 5 years in than we have. He has been stopped on just about every front by wealthy elites protecting their own interests, mainly through the Tea Party in the House.

So I do not agree that a vote for a Dem or a Republican is a vote for someone bought and paid for by wealthy America. Sure, it takes money to get elected, but Obama had more grass roots $50 donors to get him in office than he did corporate backers. He has, however, been stopped by corporate America through their astroturf Tea Party crap that has hoodwinked many Americans into supporting what is not in their interests.

I just see the Tea Party as a great foil to what middle America wants and would get if not for the Tea Party in the House stalling and sabotaging every move to reign in the power and influence of corporate America and the wealthy elites.

I think money influences both sides, but the Republicans court it way more than the Dems, and most Dem policies do NOT advance the agenda of corporate America. So its hard to make a case that Obama is beholden to big money, when a lot of what he would do if he could does not favor the status quo.

Clayton_Wetter
11-06-2013, 06:04 PM
ACTUALLY:

The Tea Party movement spontaneously formed in 2009 from the reaction of the American people to fiscally irresponsible actions of the federal government, misguided “stimulus” spending, bailouts and takeovers of private industry. Within the first few weeks of the movement, Tea Party Patriots formed to support the millions of Americans seeking to improve our great nation through renewed support for fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government, and free market economic policies.

Tea Party Patriots is a national grassroots organization that exists to serve and support the thousands of local organizations and millions of grassroots Patriots throughout our nation. We provide logistical, educational, networking and other support to thousands of community-based tea party groups around the country. Tea Party Patriots state and national coordinators serve your local grassroots groups, support you with the tools and technology you need to address your local issues, listen to your voices, gather your ideas, and together help shape the overall direction of our national movement. Working in a truly grassroots fashion, we have already changed the political landscape of America.

Tea Party Patriots is 100% grassroots, 100% of the time.

Tea Party Patriots is made up of, and funded by, millions of regular Americans just like you, who believe there is a better way forward for America. We are a non-profit 501(c)(4) organization that does not support any political party nor do we endorse candidates. If you support fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government, and free market economic policies, we encourage you to sign up for Tea Party Patriots today.

Join us today

OUR MISSION

The Tea Party Patriots’ mission is to restore America’s founding principles of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets.

kidrock
11-06-2013, 07:00 PM
ACTUALLY:

The Tea Party movement spontaneously formed in 2009 from the reaction of the American people to fiscally irresponsible actions of the federal government, misguided “stimulus” spending, bailouts and takeovers of private industry. Within the first few weeks of the movement, Tea Party Patriots formed to support the millions of Americans seeking to improve our great nation through renewed support for fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government, and free market economic policies.

Tea Party Patriots is a national grassroots organization that exists to serve and support the thousands of local organizations and millions of grassroots Patriots throughout our nation. We provide logistical, educational, networking and other support to thousands of community-based tea party groups around the country. Tea Party Patriots state and national coordinators serve your local grassroots groups, support you with the tools and technology you need to address your local issues, listen to your voices, gather your ideas, and together help shape the overall direction of our national movement. Working in a truly grassroots fashion, we have already changed the political landscape of America.

Tea Party Patriots is 100% grassroots, 100% of the time.

Tea Party Patriots is made up of, and funded by, millions of regular Americans just like you, who believe there is a better way forward for America. We are a non-profit 501(c)(4) organization that does not support any political party nor do we endorse candidates. If you support fiscal responsibility, constitutionally limited government, and free market economic policies, we encourage you to sign up for Tea Party Patriots today.

Join us today

OUR MISSION

The Tea Party Patriots’ mission is to restore America’s founding principles of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets.

Now that is funny right there. The tea party does not support any political party but, yet run under the Republican banner. Lol. If that is truly the case then why don't they run as a third party?

Clayton do you despise the Democratic Party?

t.nie
11-06-2013, 07:31 PM
The Tea Party also claims these billions of supporters, and being grass roots and all that other horse shyt when every poll shows them to be a fringe extremist group at best with dwindling support and very low favorable numbers in public opinion.

Ted Cruz is the least popular politician in the nation after his little hissy fit on Capitol Hill, but shhhhh..... don't tell the Tea Billy..... He thinks Cruz is going to be the next President... just let him dream his dream.

There's a reason they call it the right wing echo chamber.....

Bubstr
11-06-2013, 10:49 PM
The Tea Party IS the infiltration by capitalists and big business into the Republican party. The game when you start to lose the popular vote is to keep enough traction to stave off change for as long as possible.

If you are steaming along, taking ground, kicking butt and taking names and its all going your way, you keep going. When you finally run out of steam and forward progress stops, you do whatever it takes to keep from losing ground and getting pushed backwards.

Republicans are no longer in favor, their "trickle down" theory is bust, it's over. The nation sees the playing field is tilted in favor of the wealthy, tax code lets the wealthy pay less, corporate welfare subsidizes and funds projects that help the wealthy get wealthier, the whole game is played by the rich for the rich and middle America by electing Obama sent a clear message that we weren't going to let it continue.

Don't forget that if Obama got his way, the wealthy would be paying a lot more in taxes, the stimulus would have been more, Obamacare would not exist but Single payer would be the law of the land, etc. NONE of this favors the RICH.

So saying both parties are owned by wealthy elites is partially true, but not all wealthy elites see things the same way. Some see their mission is to get and keep as much as they can and stomp on everyone else, however others do not see that as good for them or America.

If you look at what Obama would have done left to his own agenda completely, we would have a far different country 5 years in than we have. He has been stopped on just about every front by wealthy elites protecting their own interests, mainly through the Tea Party in the House.

So I do not agree that a vote for a Dem or a Republican is a vote for someone bought and paid for by wealthy America. Sure, it takes money to get elected, but Obama had more grass roots $50 donors to get him in office than he did corporate backers. He has, however, been stopped by corporate America through their astroturf Tea Party crap that has hoodwinked many Americans into supporting what is not in their interests.

I just see the Tea Party as a great foil to what middle America wants and would get if not for the Tea Party in the House stalling and sabotaging every move to reign in the power and influence of corporate America and the wealthy elites.

I think money influences both sides, but the Republicans court it way more than the Dems, and most Dem policies do NOT advance the agenda of corporate America. So its hard to make a case that Obama is beholden to big money, when a lot of what he would do if he could does not favor the status quo.

I can't make excuses for the democrats. When the ACA and stimulus took place they had control of both houses and the presidency. There was nothing standing in their way to follow any agenda they felt like. They chose to turn ACA into an elite insurance money maker. They chose to direct stimulus threw corporate avenues, be it green or infrastructure improvements. A simple tax refund would have been much more effective. If they had bailed out the home owners instead of the banks, both houses and banks would have been saved for the same price. Really should they have spent all that bail out and stimulus money in the way they did, for the results they got? They talked about restructuring the tax code but it was all talk. They talk about taxing the rich, but taxed the middle class. They just need to fix the tax code to tax everyone on all income at the same rate. Now they are talking about Amnesty which only benefits the law breaker and corporate America that loves cheap and abundant labor. Obama also talked about removing all this campaign money out of politics his first election, just talk. Him and the democrats gathered in more than the republicans last election and some of them contributors contributed to both sides. Don't tell me what they say, show me what they do. The shrinking middle class can't spend excuses. Not to mention, he was going to end the wars and reduce military and discretionary spending on these. Corporate War America needs this spending. It goes back and forth as to which party is more evil over the years, but we know this, the lesser of two evils is still evil. Done with rant.

Clayton_Wetter
11-07-2013, 04:26 PM
Now that is funny right there. The tea party does not support any political party but, yet run under the Republican banner. Lol. If that is truly the case then why don't they run as a third party?

Clayton do you despise the Democratic Party?

There is no Democrat party anymore. and only half a Republican party.