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Driver50x
12-16-2013, 02:32 PM
I am looking for a rotating assembly for a low budget street stock. It is a 355 Chevy flat top. Does anyone have any good or bad experience with either Eagle or Scat? Or should I be looking for something else? I am thinking about going with forged pistons and maybe a cast crankshaft.

dereksehi
12-16-2013, 02:53 PM
I prefer eagle over scat especially their cast steel crankshafts I feel eagle is a better product but some may have a different opinion. One thing I do like about scat is they offer their Procomp rod with 7/16 cap screws and a polished beam for extra insurance if your rules allow.

jsf74
12-16-2013, 09:21 PM
how many rpm's you plan on turning?

Driver50x
12-17-2013, 08:38 AM
Probably about 6800.

jsf74
12-17-2013, 10:30 AM
I think either is fine for that many rpm. The key is a balanced assembly in my opinion.

lovinlatemodels
12-17-2013, 06:44 PM
Scat.......

RW57
12-17-2013, 07:14 PM
I have a friend who lost a new eagle rod after only a lap and half , A couple of builders within an hour of me would not use eagle at gunpoint both say the quality is not up to par also weights of parts are all over the place we are going scat with our new motor.

let-r-eat
12-18-2013, 02:08 AM
Scat for me.

Driver50x
12-18-2013, 12:15 PM
So do you guys think the Scat cast crankshaft would be good enough for this application?

lovinlatemodels
12-18-2013, 12:29 PM
Scat Crank and Rods will be just fine for this we have turned Scat stuff cast material up to 7,500 RPM's with no failures.

CNC BLOCKS
12-18-2013, 12:30 PM
I do a lot of balancing for a lot of shops in my area and the Scat seems like more of a quality crank then the Eagle, One guy bought 2 Eagle cranks for a 383 externally balanced and both cranks you could push the balancer on by hand, Told him to get a Scat problem solved.

Search issues with Eagle Sir rods and look at the pilot bearings issues they had a while back.

If you want a decent rod you might look at the Scat I beam with 7/16 bolts

Driver50x
12-18-2013, 03:06 PM
Thanks guys!

dereksehi
12-19-2013, 01:41 PM
Another to add to the eagle cast shaft is the .125 radius on the rod journal where the scat is only .092 the bigger the radius the more strength the crankshaft has. The bigger radius will require chamfered rod bearings to clear without having fillet ride, which will quickly damage the bearing.

stock car driver
12-19-2013, 02:05 PM
I would prefer a gm cast crank over scat and eagle and keep rpm to 7000 MAX.

oem seem to flex and not crack where the scat cast cranks seem brittle, when I ran them they were always cracked at rebuild time. I had well balanced stuff but very heavy speed pro pistons and 6500 rpm max.

RW57
12-19-2013, 02:42 PM
Stock car driver that is exactly what the new machinist we are going to use told me he prefers stock gm over either one.

stock car driver
12-19-2013, 04:02 PM
Stock car driver that is exactly what the new machinist we are going to use told me he prefers stock gm over either one.

Ive raced a long time so been thru a lot of stuff and pawned my stuff for race parts a few times.

I would buy a renegade or steel ohio over any cast crank these days as they are cheaper now than ten years ago.

Dirtrunner35
12-19-2013, 05:32 PM
I do a lot of balancing for a lot of shops in my area and the Scat seems like more of a quality crank then the Eagle, One guy bought 2 Eagle cranks for a 383 externally balanced and both cranks you could push the balancer on by hand, Told him to get a Scat problem solved.

Search issues with Eagle Sir rods and look at the pilot bearings issues they had a while back.

If you want a decent rod you might look at the Scat I beam with 7/16 bolts

lol i have one of those cranks the pilot bearing hole is to big, a buddy of mine made me one that fit . i have been using eagle for 9 yrs and no problems, 7000-7500 rpm mod and stock car motor

stock car driver
12-19-2013, 05:39 PM
lol i have one of those cranks the pilot bearing hole is to big, a buddy of mine made me one that fit . i have been using eagle for 9 yrs and no problems, 7000-7500 rpm mod and stock car motor

U act like you got stock in Eagle, not like your trying to help anyone make a choice....

A cast crank has last you 9 years 7000-7500 rpm? Wow, that's incredible.

racin6mod
12-19-2013, 06:24 PM
maybe I'm not reading correctly but he said he'd been using eagle for 9 years never said it was the same crank or even same motor just eagle parts. my brother has a motor with eagle rods h-beam that we've turned 8000 rpms so fare no problems never had a eagle crank but I have gm steel cranks in both engines.

is c.a.t. still in business ?

usafracer
12-19-2013, 10:46 PM
442 stock cast crank or I have had good luck with the scat 9000 nodular cranks for budget biulds. As far as I am concerned cast eagle cranks and sir rods are only good for scrap!

DaveBauerSS6
12-19-2013, 11:54 PM
Built 5 motors in the last 2 years with scat 9000 cranks and fluidamper ( race) balancers, and all were too tight. All over .001. Found the rest of the machining all good and no failures. Several came back for freshenup and looked great.

Driver50x
01-05-2014, 07:46 PM
I'm thinking about going with an Ohio Crankshaft forged steel rotating assembly. Anyone have any good or bad experiences with them?

usafracer
01-05-2014, 08:20 PM
Ohio crank has some good products.