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greenmod
04-22-2014, 09:30 AM
With everything in neutral on a 4 Link chassis, what changes could be made to keep the LF on the race track?

7uptruckracer
04-22-2014, 09:52 AM
More RR spring, Less Bite, Limit LR thrust Angle for starters

HEAVY DUTY
04-22-2014, 05:48 PM
Like 7 up said, LR thrust angle. ( shorten or add limit chain)

roundboy
04-22-2014, 08:00 PM
I had the same problem at the start of last year and i chain limited the left rear, i had to adjust a couple bar angles to get the car back where i wanted it, but it is handling great and keeping the left front on the ground 95% of the time now..

greenmod
04-23-2014, 12:27 AM
Thanks guys, also the rear tires after the race are crazy hot. Any ideas there?

Anonymous24
04-23-2014, 03:21 AM
IMO.....The rear tires are hot because you are lacking traction. A tire that is hooked up will remain cooler than one thar isn't.

7uptruckracer
04-25-2014, 11:42 AM
Just curious what is your rear weight? Do you have wheel spin? How are tires grained?
IMO.....The rear tires are hot because you are lacking traction. A tire that is hooked up will remain cooler than one thar isn't.

7uptruckracer
04-25-2014, 11:44 AM
Also if your front to rear balance is off fronts won't be as hot could also mean you need to add toe out its not uncommon on hard tires so your heat balance stays the same after a few laps which also makes your handling stay more consistent through out the race

stock car driver
04-25-2014, 12:08 PM
my car carry lf more with stiffer rr spring.

MasterSbilt_Racer
04-25-2014, 02:40 PM
IMO.....The rear tires are hot because you are lacking traction. A tire that is hooked up will remain cooler than one thar isn't.

Hooked tires, that are slipped to turn the car, will be hot.

Anonymous24
04-26-2014, 01:13 PM
Full of fuel with driver in car 53.2%Rear tire temps LR 100-105 uniform across the contact patchRR 110-115 uniform across the contact patchRF tire temp 80-85 uniform across the contact patch

Anonymous24
04-26-2014, 01:23 PM
Hooked tires, that are slipped to turn the car, will be hot.We have very little tire slippage. The suspension geometry is configured to help turn the car without needing to slide the car.

MasterSbilt_Racer
04-27-2014, 09:07 PM
Full of fuel with driver in car 53.2%Rear tire temps LR 100-105 uniform across the contact patchRR 110-115 uniform across the contact patchRF tire temp 80-85 uniform across the contact patch

That isn't operating temp for a lot of dirt tires.

Anonymous24
04-27-2014, 11:00 PM
Those were the temps from Friday right after the feature. I use a high quality pyrometer and check tire temps after every run. Car was very fast.

stock car driver
04-28-2014, 06:30 AM
Full of fuel with driver in car 53.2%Rear tire temps LR 100-105 uniform across the contact patchRR 110-115 uniform across the contact patchRF tire temp 80-85 uniform across the contact patch

Are you also greenmod and accidentally logged in under your other screen name? It makes no sense for you to be posting your temps in a thread that has nothing to do with you?

I realize most of your posts are worthy of someone who must be anonymous that's why Im asking not just assuming...

gjohnson
04-28-2014, 01:46 PM
Not to hijack the thread but since we're talking about tire temps those listed above seem very low compared to what I'm getting. I'm usually 110-120 LR and 130-140 RR. Is that considered too hot?

powerslide
04-28-2014, 02:45 PM
Not to hijack the thread but since we're talking about tire temps those listed above seem very low compared to what I'm getting. I'm usually 110-120 LR and 130-140 RR. Is that considered too hot?

I dont believe anyone is going to say that is too hot. It depends on what tire you are on though. Call hoosier or american racer whichever you are using and ask what the operating range is

Anonymous24
04-28-2014, 05:04 PM
Are you also greenmod and accidentally logged in under your other screen name? It makes no sense for you to be posting your temps in a thread that has nothing to do with you? I realize most of your posts are worthy of someone who must be anonymous that's why Im asking not just assuming...No I have no other user name other than Anonymous24Why do you say most of my posts are worthy of someone being anonymous? I post correct information that has been applied and tested on the track. Do you have a problem with me? J have no idea why you insist on being an a$$. Makes ya look ignorant. If you disagree with what I post, prove my information wrong with a credibile source. Otherwise, quit trying to stir up stuff when there is absolutely no need for it.

Anonymous24
04-28-2014, 05:13 PM
Not to hijack the thread but since we're talking about tire temps those listed above seem very low compared to what I'm getting. I'm usually 110-120 LR and 130-140 RR. Is that considered too hot?The tire temps on the Loose Gruff chassis we used to run were in that range. The tires liked to seal over under caution. I believe it was due to the high temperatures. I was always telling my brother to keep the tires hot under caution to prevent them from sealing over.

HEAVY DUTY
04-28-2014, 10:02 PM
Tire temps depend more on the type of dirt and track surface, than type of chassis.130 is pretty middle of the road. Some tracks will get 200 or more.

RRR_Products
04-29-2014, 02:24 AM
Tacky track those low numbers are common black slick you will see higher due to surface and braking... No tire should ever go above 220 F* asphalt road course, circle track, and dirt. Drag racing no idea. Don't forget your expansion with air vs nitrogen. 10 degrees:1 psi with 78:21:1. You see a reading of a tire 30 degrees hotter that's 9-15lbs difference on a scale. We've seen a 3-5lb change with every PSI on mods and super stocks.

let-r-eat
04-29-2014, 09:58 AM
Even tire temps front to rear are not for dirt cars.