Fast Boys Leaf setup on a street stock camaro

[dontlift19]

Has anyone had success running this setup in a street stock? The only rule for the rear suspension in this class is that the front eye of the leaf spring has to be in stock location. We are one american racer g60 tires and have to weigh 3300 lbs. We can run outside mounted rebuildable shocks, floater rear end, and rear disc brakes if that helps any. Thanks

[grayarea58]

we ran it on both our 3350 street stock camaros ,stock clip 2x3 rear chassis. drivers love it, they say very easy to drive capaired to a coil car. car was very stable. and we run asphalt 1/4 and 1/3 mile tracks.

[outlawstreet21]

We have had great success. Won 28 out of 36 features. I have run it floated and locked. Car is forsale if anyone is interested.

[rgrmotorsports]

for a rookie, maybe little ruff to drive unless you tame it down, .Fast, has tons of bite and fun to drive!

[Camaro Guy]

I am now looking to do this to my current Super Stock Camaro. I am at the point where my front end is all maxed out (for my rules) that being (bump steer, roll centers, full swedge tube uppers). I wanted to start focusing on the rear and I just stumbled by these left spring floaters. Now my car is basically OEM from the drivers seat back, I just started gutting the trunk and the wheel wells( does have rear leaf spring sliders). Will this floater work if I just bolt it down and go?

[billy5]

floater goes on right rear.

[Camaro Guy]

Yeah I know that. I am running a multi leaf spring on both sides so I was curious if I could just bolt on that floater on the right rear and it will help me? I am aware that I will need to make the left rear mount a little more stout for all the torque that it will we taking.

[billy5]

i just read you had found left floaters...didnt mean to stir anything....its something you have to fiqure out how to make it work for your own driving style and for the track you race at....if you stick to it long enough......hang on tight..

[Camaro Guy]

Sorry Billy I did have a typo in that post. My rules are pretty strict but it doesn't say that I can't run the right rear floater, besides someone would really have to know what they are looking at to know what it is. I want to try it and feel the difference and I can pretty much do it for cheap, I wanna know what I am getting into tho before I make a full commitment. I need to find someone that has done this recently all these posts are kind of out dated. Any further information and or tips will be awesome, even if they steer me away from the right rear floater.

[DirtRacer9x]

In my opinion. Tacky bolt it up both sides and dry slick float rr to start. Seen too mnsy drivers not consistent with it on the tack. Especially the ones who aren't familiar with many chassis adjustments, shocks, ballast placement, drive style etc.

[billy5]

keep reading the outdated stuff ....it hasnt changed much..i have tried it and can say that it can be a handfull to fiqure out....very small moves make a world of differnce...its easy to go from slightly loose to way to tight...the track we race at change alot from the start of the night till the end

[Camaro Guy]

I mostly run on all dry slick here on the west coast (Utah). My car has handled the dry really well but I think that there is more to be gained. The problem is that we don't have a lot of guys that run a leaf spring, and if they do they don't take the racing serious (Gas and Go). So I am kind of out by myself in trying different things. I do like the idea of being able to lock the right rear up for tacky times and I have seen parts that I can buy to allow it. With this right rear floater do you have to run more stagger to get the car freed up? Or is it a drive it in hard and wait for the right time to stomp the throttle. Also I have only found one place to get a RR floater and it is from south west speed, any other places that sell this setup?

[billy5]

i made all of mine...3'' id pipe cut in half and rewelded aroung the rearend tube...cut 1/2'' wide rings and welded to rearend on each side of floater to hold the side to side,then welded spring perch to the floating pipe..also drilled a hole in the floater and put a grease fitting in it

[Camaro Guy]

That is a really good idea. It would be easy to build one. did you have to strengthen or modify the left side mount? it sounds like this setup is hell on the left side leaf springs. I am excited to try it and hopefully I can keep you guys posted on how it goes.

[RRR_Products]

Make sure your LR axle tube to the center section is stout. There is a lot of load on that side of the rear end.

[dirty white boy]

lotta stagger,...drive it like ya mad throw it in deep and stand on it,..getting on the gas will tightin it up...if its right...google scooter may there was a long discussion bout it by him,..he first to find it an make it work on a owm...i got the pics to go with this thread here> http://www.4m.net/archive/index.php/t-197707.html

[Camaro Guy]

Okay guys I am getting close on my super stock and I have one more question. do you thing that it is a good idea to mount the front of the leaf springs closer together than the rears? If so.. what spring should I move and how much?

[racin6mod]

yes toe them in at the front. the front is inward 1 1/2'' on each side making a total 3'' narrower at the front on our leaf modified.

[outlawstreet21]

Here is a link to my fastboys build. http://s629.photobucket.com/user/outlawstreet21/library/

[DirtRacer9x]

Nice build. How do you change ride height in rear though?

[outlawstreet21]

The front leaf brackets have 3" adjustable holes. Can also use the spacers at the axle to leaf mounts. Wouldn't recommend the aluminum ones. I never ran the one in the photo. I had to take it out for ride height.

[Camaro Guy]

OK Guys, I'm back. Last year I got into an accident (not racing related) and didn't get to try my new setup. Sooo Its been many months but I am finally back and ready to race. 3 weekends ago it was practice. after fighting multiple issues I was able to get my car working well. After getting it to a fast point I unlocked my RR floater and BOY can I feel a difference. I did have to adjust my driving style by HUUCKING it into the corners then full throttle out. It has more drive off than I have ever felt (expected). The track was dry slick and took quite a bit of rubber. I am pleased with it and I look forward to racing this year. I do have some questions tho, will this setup make it push like a dump truck on entry? also do you guys think that an HOLD-UP shock on the LR is a good idea?

[rgrmotorsports]

it will make it throttle tight. harder you drive it in the more she works. only down fall to this set up is to keep re arching springs. if they go flat you lose all your forward drive because leaf spring gets it bite from spring wrap. . Changing and cut springs to get the spring rate for your driving style will only make you faster... maintenance on arching springs a must....good luck

[Camaro Guy]

GOOD NEWS! I finally got to race my car w/ my new setup this past weekend and boy was it fast! I started the main in the back, was passing for the lead and got dumped by the local guy that wins there weekly. Went to the back and had the lead again in 8 laps, just in time to take the checkered! The car was bad fast and basically done everything I wanted it to. The track got super dry slick and started to take rubber. The drier the track got the better my car was. Thank you guys for the help and all the support! Now I just have to get my track officials on board with what I'm doing.

[bobdoo]

Do you have to tell them?

[Camaro Guy]

They seen it at tech this weekend. I passed but they told me to change it. I pleaded my case and I'm waiting for an answer.They allow the metric cars to go to a 3 link and they can use a rubber biscuit pull bar. AKA (traction device) they wont allow me to put a pull bar on or one of those factory torque arms. I feel that I'm getting the short end of the stick. Also how is the best way to build a lock so that I can lock it back up if needed, I tried to weld some tabs but I just ripped them off. Any help here will be useful!