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kslle
11-23-2014, 07:24 PM
what would a 1 inch spacer to left rear wheel do.

Kwoods25
11-23-2014, 07:45 PM
More drive on throttle

MasterSbilt_Racer
11-23-2014, 07:50 PM
If you readjust lost wedge, it gives the car more tendency to rotate right under throttle. So tighter on gas.

kslle
11-24-2014, 07:22 PM
so if i would move lr closer in it would put tire patch closer to spring and shock which would help on slick conditions

Matt49
11-24-2014, 08:09 PM
so if i would move lr closer in it would put tire patch closer to spring and shock which would help on slick conditions

That is the complete opposite of what both responders said...and I agree with both responders.

Kwoods25
11-25-2014, 05:15 AM
Most of the time to help on slick conditions is change driving style. We rarely change much for dry slick track. I change my corner entry and throttle control. We take stagger out and thats about it. (Running crate) we have adjusted on it a lot in the past and we end up in left field

RW57
11-26-2014, 02:45 PM
I am confused myself now although these days it don"t take much. A 2 in spacer on or of our car takes out 15 pounds of bite which should free up car on exit on throttle or so I always thought we do not readjust for bite removed after putting on spacer. I think the better way i to adjust driving style we have all seen the people who spend hours with car on scales go to race track hot lap come in and change every thing on car then have no clue as to what they did or which direction the car is gonna go when you go off in turn one with you on the outside on lap 1.

Lizardracing
11-26-2014, 10:45 PM
Ever see guys set fast time and then change everything but their underwear for the heat race?

Kwoods25
11-27-2014, 05:41 AM
Ever see guys set fast time and then change everything but their underwear for the heat race?I used to be that guy. We have set fast time come in change carb, plugs, RF shock, adjust LR, and adjust every bar in the rear. Then everybody comes over and says you just set fast time why are you changing everything. Lol as long as you are making it faster its good right.

hpmaster
11-27-2014, 07:23 AM
Ever see guys set fast time and then change everything but their underwear for the heat race?

The goal is to be the fastest at about 11:45. It don't pay much to be the fastest at 7:30.

RW57
11-27-2014, 07:46 AM
That's like I tell my son now when I drove the only lap that pays any money is the last one it don't matter what you look. Like getting there just be in front on that one.

Kwoods25
11-27-2014, 08:03 AM
your either first or your last! "Ricky Bobby"

Lizardracing
11-27-2014, 01:43 PM
I'm the opposite. I'm the guy that you can't find anywhere near my car because I did my work in the shop and already have a plan and I don't need to do anything I haven't already set up for.

MasterSbilt_Racer
11-27-2014, 09:08 PM
I'm the opposite. I'm the guy that you can't find anywhere near my car because I did my work in the shop and already have a plan and I don't need to do anything I haven't already set up for.

But sometimes you expect smooth, slick and get a plowed field.

save the racers
11-27-2014, 10:39 PM
Exactly, you don't always get the same track each week. It's not asphalt. You think all these touring guys don't do the work in the shop? We have all those holes and adjustments for a reason. But by no means do you need them all.

Lizardracing
11-28-2014, 11:25 AM
I didn't mean to imply absolutism. I simply was referring to generalities. Of course there are nights when the car/track/driver is way off. To me, all the holes some guys are putting in cars theses day and marketing "Fully Adjustable" tells me they have no idea where the things should be but instead leaving it up the owner to figure out. The Mods are really bad about it.

As an example just for conversation, If the track went rough and I expected slick, I would likely change the RF shock, move the PH up a hole on the pinion and maybe tires pressures if there were big holes. That's less than two minutes on my car.
The guys that pit next to me would change both upper bars, two springs, the PH bar, three shocks, two tires, the spoiler angle, the lift arm, and still finishes in the back!

SuperEight
11-29-2014, 06:57 AM
I am confused myself now although these days it don"t take much. A 2 in spacer on or of our car takes out 15 pounds of bite which should free up car on exit on throttle or so I always thought we do not readjust for bite removed after putting on spacer. I think the better way i to adjust driving style we have all seen the people who spend hours with car on scales go to race track hot lap come in and change every thing on car then have no clue as to what they did or which direction the car is gonna go when you go off in turn one with you on the outside on lap 1.

You are correct, it does slightly decrease wedge and LS%, but it greatly enhances the LR polar moment. It essentially gives the left rear a longer lever to push with vs the RR much shorter lever, thus it tightens the car "ON" the throttle and can free up entry conversely too. The simple things still work.