Reputation Comments

[ModJr1]

Folks in this version on vBulletin we cannot disable the reputation stuff. But here is the thing - IT MEANS NOTHING. Nothing whatsoever. Ignore it. People are going to do it just to try and provoke you. Ignore it as I do. Post away. Keep it racing. We will eventually weed out the trolls when they can no longer get their jollies from getting under people's skin.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Folks in this version on vBulletin we cannot disable the reputation stuff. But here is the thing - IT MEANS NOTHING. Nothing whatsoever. Ignore it. People are going to do it just to try and provoke you. Ignore it as I do. Post away. Keep it racing. We will eventually weed out the trolls when they can no longer get their jollies from getting under people's skin.If you can make the rep/comments be signed by the person giving them as the private messages are, we can weed them out for ya;).

As of now, yes, ignore them, but just a suggestion if it's possible. Thank you for making an effort also to improve the place.

[Barbecueboy]

If you can make the rep/comments be signed by the person giving them as the private messages are, we can weed them out for ya;).

As of now, yes, ignore them, but just a suggestion if it's possible. Thank you for making an effort also to improve the place.

Roger that c and b..........roger that!

[W2Racing09]

I would be surprised if that is even a feature that is offered. I think the point of not having names associated is it would make the system more obsolete than it already is. I think it would just lead to people giving red rep to anyone who gave them red rep. (I know I would give red rep to anyone who gave me red rep... which would kind of make it pointless)

Thanks,
Jeff.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I would be surprised if that is even a feature that is offered. I think the point of not having names associated is it would make the system more obsolete than it already is. I think it would just lead to people giving red rep to anyone who gave them red rep. (I know I would give red rep to anyone who gave me red rep... which would kind of make it pointless)

Thanks,
Jeff.Some had mentioned that other sites they go to that are VBulletin, it is an option. I have no idea though. I think you've given me red rep, bbq has, I don't give them back. Personal choice I agree. I just would rather hash it out then throw skittles at each other, just me. But if you sign them, I feel they hold more weight, red or green. You don't sign them, then, well.....

You do sign them Jeff, as does BBQ, so wether it matters or not I respect that.

[W2Racing09]

I don't remember giving you red rep before, but who knows. I think I used the rep system more back when i first started.

Now I only red rep Casey Roberts fans. Haha

Thanks,
Jeff.

[pink floyd]

I don't remember giving you red rep before, but who knows. I think I used the rep system more back when i first started.

Now I only red rep Casey Roberts fans. Haha

Thanks,
Jeff.

I think all the casey Roberts fans have now been banned, lol.

[W2Racing09]

I think all the casey Roberts fans have now been banned, lol.

It was for the best,

We let BBQ stay because most of the time you can't tell he's a Casey Roberts fan.

Haha

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Barbecueboy]

Dang y'all, that's harsh..............(somebody is gonna be eatin some crow after speedweeks, hope it ain't me...........and I know you guys are prayin it won't be you,lol)

It is true that vbulletin does have an application that includes your screen name......sounds like mod1 is saying that 4 ms version doesn't offer that feature.

Either way, my thoughts on the rep system is this......

I use it more as a text type situation when I want to acknowledge a post ( good or bad) as just a " hell yeah" or an " oh hell no you just diunt"..........sometimes lengthy drawn out thread conversations aren't necessary to give someone an acknowledgement.
From that point, most normal posters will PM me back and we will chat it up or hash it out in private, or will just move on knowing that someone out here in the world thought what they said was cool or not cool.

It's great that we can now all look back at the " drama clubs" production of " bad reputation" over the last year and chuckle about it.

Que up some Joan Jett somebody!!!

[TS FAN]

Folks in this version on vBulletin we cannot disable the reputation stuff. But here is the thing - IT MEANS NOTHING. Nothing whatsoever. Ignore it. People are going to do it just to try and provoke you. Ignore it as I do. Post away. Keep it racing. We will eventually weed out the trolls when they can no longer get their jollies from getting under people's skin.

Thanks for trying to clean this place up. I yelled at a poster chupp-bloomer because I thought he
trashed me on the Rep thing. I really did not know much about it, but because we were having differences on a driver, I got this nasty comment.

[Bubstr]

Folks in this version on vBulletin we cannot disable the reputation stuff. But here is the thing - IT MEANS NOTHING. Nothing whatsoever. Ignore it. People are going to do it just to try and provoke you. Ignore it as I do. Post away. Keep it racing. We will eventually weed out the trolls when they can no longer get their jollies from getting under people's skin.

That's too bad, the rep system can not be changed. It is along with the taunting and bad mouthing, that keeps a lot of potential members off this site. I have met more than one at tracks that just laugh at this site and say, " Why would I put myself in for that kind of abuse".

Here are the things that are so wrong with it.
1 It is anonymous.
2 It is manipulated by groups and multiple user names.
3 You can not give a rep for each individual post. Each one should be judged or none of them.
4 It does not give equal weight, points value, to every member. We are all equal or not.
5 It has driven off more than a couple new members, as they received red charms just because a certain group thought they where a new user name of someone that was banned.
6 It is given just for a difference of opinion. Is this the most opinionated racing forum or not?

I got my red from pointing out bad behavior and I'm proud of it. I'm not the ones that taunted, badmouthed, name called, unless you judge calling someone childish that, or invited anyone to the track for a whooping. Who by the way have a long string of green charms, for the most part or who have been banned.
One question. Is taunting about rep, a reportable offense?

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Thanks for trying to clean this place up. I yelled at a poster chupp-bloomer because I thought he
trashed me on the Rep thing. I really did not know much about it, but because we were having differences on a driver, I got this nasty comment.Not sure what you're talking about TS. I know we've had our differences, but I've absolutely never given out red rep. Not to you or anyone else. Others will sign other people's names to stir stuff. Possible that coulda happened. Maybe it's what ya meant, no hard feelings man.

[hpmaster]

That's too bad, the rep system can not be changed. It is along with the taunting and bad mouthing, that keeps a lot of potential members off this site. I have met more than one at tracks that just laugh at this site and say, " Why would I put myself in for that kind of abuse".

Here are the things that are so wrong with it.
1 It is anonymous.
2 It is manipulated by groups and multiple user names.
3 You can not give a rep for each individual post. Each one should be judged or none of them.
4 It does not give equal weight, points value, to every member. We are all equal or not.
5 It has driven off more than a couple new members, as they received red charms just because a certain group thought they where a new user name of someone that was banned.
6 It is given just for a difference of opinion. Is this the most opinionated racing forum or not?

I got my red from pointing out bad behavior and I'm proud of it. I'm not the ones that taunted, badmouthed, name called, unless you judge calling someone childish that, or invited anyone to the track for a whooping. Who by the way have a long string of green charms, for the most part or who have been banned.
One question. Is taunting about rep, a reportable offense?

Please read the FIRST post in this thread.

[TS FAN]

Not sure what you're talking about TS. I know we've had our differences, but I've absolutely never given out red rep. Not to you or anyone else. Others will sign other people's names to stir stuff. Possible that coulda happened. Maybe it's what ya meant, no hard feelings man.

I know it wasn't you, but at the time, I did not know what that Rep was about. We were going back and forth on something, then A Rep comment came up. It was beyond nasty, and of course it wasn't signed. I thought it was you because we were debating. I later learned about the Red Rep thing when a poster complained about it. BTW it was the worse night of my racing life, although you and I were talking about the N/S, then the news came about NY Aug 9th, 2014

[BigNilla]

I received quite a few from people, who anonomoualy apologized and gave me a green because they thought I was someone else I thought that was funny. I didn't like getting all that red but it was more annoying than disappointing. I See things on here all the time that I don't agree with but would never dish out a red. I will however throw green out. The ratings system from a new user perspective can be intimidating at first and make the overall experience less than desireable and run SOME people away I almost said to heck with it. But since it cannot be removed I suppose we will all just have to deal with it as petty as it may be.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I know it wasn't you, but at the time, I did not know what that Rep was about. We were going back and forth on something, then A Rep comment came up. It was beyond nasty, and of course it wasn't signed. I thought it was you because we were debating. I later learned about the Red Rep thing when a poster complained about it. BTW it was the worse night of my racing life, although you and I were talking about the N/S, then the news came about NY Aug 9th, 2014Copy TS. Okay, just making sure you didn't think I did that.

[Barbecueboy]

It's funny how such a tiny group of the same people are the ones that complain about the reputation points..........it really tells the story!

Especially after the main guy just recently confirmed that the rep means nothing..........if it means anything at all, it's nothing more than generalized indication of who makes posts that are popular amongst the members and who makes posts that aren't so popular amongst the members.

I am at the racetrack, race shop or racing related events as much as or more than anybody on this site , have interacted with thousands upon thousands of different people at these events , and I have yet to hear anybody complain about the reputation system on 4 m and it driving them away from coming here..........I have only heard that statement come from 3 different people, and funny enough, they all reside on 4m.

I've made some bonehead posts that haven't been too popular and gotten deservedly red rummed for it......the difference is, I've made more posts that are popular than not.

It's really not that hard to do if you do your part!!!!


You can't please everybody all of the time, and there are some( some in this very thread itself) that you will never be able to please.........no matter what, which is a crying shame.

[pink floyd]

It was for the best,

We let BBQ stay because most of the time you can't tell he's a Casey Roberts fan.

Haha

Thanks,
Jeff.

I'm just glad to see bbqboy behaving now!! haha

[Murph]

Folks in this version on vBulletin we cannot disable the reputation stuff. But here is the thing - IT MEANS NOTHING. Nothing whatsoever. Ignore it. People are going to do it just to try and provoke you. Ignore it as I do. Post away. Keep it racing. We will eventually weed out the trolls when they can no longer get their jollies from getting under people's skin.

According to some quick searching in vbulletin 4.2.0 you can turn off the reps and its a very simple thing to do.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum/vbulletin-4/vbulletin-4-questions-problems-and-troubleshooting/3960064-reputation-will-not-computed-in-4-2-0

[Barbecueboy]

I'm just glad to see bbqboy behaving now!! haha

If I wouldn't have been behaving, they would have banned me by now.......the truth hurts sometimes and there are and has been a lot of TRASH taken out with the ban punishment.
Oh sure, I've been part of the conversations ...........apparently , the mods determined that I've just not been part of the problem.

Just because I like Casey Roberts is not reason enough to say I have been mis behaving.....lol

And all you Casey haters?????
Smoked crow with a little red vinegar sauce, collards, Mac and cheese and jalapeño corn fritters sound ok for y'all?????

[hpmaster]

That's too bad, the rep system can not be changed. It is along with the taunting and bad mouthing, that keeps a lot of potential members off this site. I have met more than one at tracks that just laugh at this site and say, " Why would I put myself in for that kind of abuse".

Here are the things that are so wrong with it.
1 It is anonymous.
2 It is manipulated by groups and multiple user names.
3 You can not give a rep for each individual post. Each one should be judged or none of them.
4 It does not give equal weight, points value, to every member. We are all equal or not.
5 It has driven off more than a couple new members, as they received red charms just because a certain group thought they where a new user name of someone that was banned.
6 It is given just for a difference of opinion. Is this the most opinionated racing forum or not?

I got my red from pointing out bad behavior and I'm proud of it. I'm not the ones that taunted, badmouthed, name called, unless you judge calling someone childish that, or invited anyone to the track for a whooping. Who by the way have a long string of green charms, for the most part or who have been banned.
One question. Is taunting about rep, a reportable offense?


Folks in this version on vBulletin we cannot disable the reputation stuff. But here is the thing - IT MEANS NOTHING. Nothing whatsoever. Ignore it. People are going to do it just to try and provoke you. Ignore it as I do. Post away. Keep it racing. We will eventually weed out the trolls when they can no longer get their jollies from getting under people's skin.


According to some quick searching in vbulletin 4.2.0 you can turn off the reps and its a very simple thing to do.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum/vbulletin-4/vbulletin-4-questions-problems-and-troubleshooting/3960064-reputation-will-not-computed-in-4-2-0

just a thought.......Maybe the rep system is working the way the owners want it to.

[Clayton_Wetter]

If I wouldn't have been behaving, they would have banned me by now.......the truth hurts sometimes and there are and has been a lot of TRASH taken out with the ban punishment.
Oh sure, I've been part of the conversations ...........apparently , the mods determined that I've just not been part of the problem.

Just because I like Casey Roberts is not reason enough to say I have been mis behaving.....lol

And all you Casey haters?????
Smoked crow with a little red vinegar sauce, collards, Mac and cheese and jalapeño corn fritters sound ok for y'all?????

Sounds like an excellent dish. Hopefully our 4M cook Litey, will be very busy preparing the meals!!!

[pink floyd]

If I wouldn't have been behaving, they would have banned me by now.......the truth hurts sometimes and there are and has been a lot of TRASH taken out with the ban punishment.
Oh sure, I've been part of the conversations ...........apparently , the mods determined that I've just not been part of the problem.

Just because I like Casey Roberts is not reason enough to say I have been mis behaving.....lol

And all you Casey haters?????
Smoked crow with a little red vinegar sauce, collards, Mac and cheese and jalapeño corn fritters sound ok for y'all?????

lol, you're alright in my book.

[Barbecueboy]

just a thought.......Maybe the rep system is working the way the owners want it to.

Or even more likely, the system is just working in general...............maybe the folks with the bad reputation points can start having more positive and truthful things to add to the forum and they won't be so lit up like Rudolph.

I'm on several other vbulletin forums ( one a weapon forum and one a BBQ forum) and the reputation discussion never even comes up at all........

Maybe dirt racers are just a little more sensitive or we have more women on this site than the others , I just don't know.

[Barbecueboy]

Sounds like an excellent dish. Hopefully our 4M cook Litey, will be very busy preparing the meals!!!

Ohhhhhh no you don't............it's gonna be cooked by those same guys at the rocket diner that were wearing me out about how average or below national average that Casey was a couple of days ago.

Funny post though CW.......

[hpmaster]

If I wouldn't have been behaving, they would have banned me by now.......the truth hurts sometimes and there are and has been a lot of TRASH taken out with the ban punishment.
Oh sure, I've been part of the conversations ...........apparently , the mods determined that I've just not been part of the problem.

Just because I like Casey Roberts is not reason enough to say I have been mis behaving.....lol

And all you Casey haters?????
Smoked crow with a little red vinegar sauce, collards, Mac and cheese and jalapeño corn fritters sound ok for y'all?????

BBQBoy maybe the mods just look at you as the fat kid that stutters and has a lisp...they feel sorry for you and let you hang around.

[Barbecueboy]

lol, you're alright in my book.

Ditto that back at you pinky......most everybody on 4 m is alright when it comes right down to it.

Some of us just more alright than others I guess, lol

Btw........they release the Elijah Craig 18 yr back into the market in fall of 2015.
Maybe I can pick up my bottle at the world finals from you or something like that...haha.

[GotDirt1313]

and there's people on here that have convinced themselves that they're not part of the problem, when in actuallity they are worst ones, from what I've seen today from the moderators, I am glad they're putting forth the effort to clean this site up, it needs to be and after a talk with a mod, I know the rep stuff isn't going anywhere and that's fine, I like many others are just on here periodically for info and results because we can't get to the track as much as we used to. Looking fwd to the future of this site because there is actual good info on here sometimes, I try to get along with everyone, but some don't want that.

[Barbecueboy]

BBQBoy maybe the mods just look at you as the fat kid that stutters and has a lisp...they feel sorry for you and let you hang around.

Well, you could actually be on to something there HP...........

Bbbbbbbb ut, you you rrrrrrrrrreally ddddddidnt have to spell it out so ccccccccclearly to everyone.
I'm out a here, publix has valentines cakes buy one get one.........after your post, I need some comfort fffffffffffood.

[GotDirt1313]

and that's what I'm talking about right there, barbecueboy has to go and prove me right with his red rep comments, you accuse others, yet you are the instigator, I didn't say one word about you or to you yet you have to go and run your mouth in a rep comment. Hope you enjoy it, and yeah you can keep on doing it, but like boss said, he will take care of matters... and I will stop here as to a make sure I don't go back on my word to the mod.

[ModJr1]

Perhaps it is misunderstood when I said WE. We cannot - as in the Mods. It can be done in the Admin Control Panel but WE do not have access to that. We only have the Mod Control Panel which allows us to ban and delete. So this is how we are going to address it and police it.

[GotDirt1313]

Perhaps it is misunderstood when I said WE. We cannot - as in the Mods. It can be done in the Admin Control Panel but WE do not have access to that. We only have the Mod Control Panel which allows us to ban and delete. So this is how we are going to address it and police it.again I thank you ModJr1, and as you can see above as to exactly what I was talking to you about earlier.

[Stan Donnit]

I'm a fan of the negative remarks I receive in the rep comments...:confused:...Frankly, it's far more entertaining than most of the stuff published on the board...:eek:

[Stan Donnit]

BBQBoy maybe the mods just look at you as the fat kid that stutters and has a lisp...they feel sorry for you and let you hang around.


Well one things for certain, it's not his racing acumen...That kid never attends a dirt race...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[ModJr1]

Thanks to Clint Doll for the IT help. Reputation is gone. Thanks

[J20in1st]

man I've only been saying how to do it for 2 years, but, at least it is now gone! Another Bravo out to the mods and site!

[Barbecueboy]

Thanks to Clint Doll for the IT help. Reputation is gone. Thanks

Nicely done..............

As a suggestion,See if the IT guy can do anything about the multiple screen name antagonists under the same IP address......

That would go a very long way in getting the desired effect of forum fluidity.

[Barbecueboy]

Well one things for certain, it's not his racing acumen...That kid never attends a dirt race...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


What is a dirt race???

[Barbecueboy]

and that's what I'm talking about right there, barbecueboy has to go and prove me right with his red rep comments, you accuse others, yet you are the instigator, I didn't say one word about you or to you yet you have to go and run your mouth in a rep comment. Hope you enjoy it, and yeah you can keep on doing it, but like boss said, he will take care of matters... and I will stop here as to a make sure I don't go back on my word to the mod.

Didn't send you any rep bud, but your not the first person to indicate that someone sends them and then signs my name to it.........I sign mine a certain way and anyone that's ever gotten any know exactly how it reads.

Course it doesn't really matter anymore, but Since your were so bold to make the premature accusatory statement I'm hoping you will be equally as bold to issue me a heartfelt apology.

[J20in1st]

What is a dirt race???

WHen your driving down the highway after mudding, when that big clod of mud falls off and splatters in to the road. The pieces flying all over, that's a dirt race

[TS FAN]

Things seem to be improving by the hour.http://www.4m.net/images/smilies/smile.png

[drano]

Now what is the person that sent me red rep with the long row of smiley faces going to do he will be so bored, Thanks for the improvement to 4m.

[Nasty55]

drano I got the same thing earlier today.. I think its the best thing they have done by disabling the rep system because now if someone has an issue they are pretty much forced to message said person which takes the being anonymous out of the picture which will stop alot of the bs. Just my thoughts and opinions on the subject!

[drano]

drano I got the same thing earlier today.. I think its the best thing they have done by disabling the rep system because now if someone has an issue they are pretty much forced to message said person which takes the being anonymous out of the picture which will stop alot of the bs. Just my thoughts and opinions on the subject!

You hit the nail on the head Nasty no more hiding behind the keyboard this will change alot of things on this board, and for the better.

[Bubstr]

I was skeptical but I see now you are really trying to put this place to a better spot. I apologize for doubting. Well done ModJr1.

[Barbecueboy]

drano I got the same thing earlier today.. I think its the best thing they have done by disabling the rep system because now if someone has an issue they are pretty much forced to message said person which takes the being anonymous out of the picture which will stop alot of the bs. Just my thoughts and opinions on the subject!

Yeah, funny thing was , when they banned Keith and then deleted the name banned, every single one of those smiley faced red rep messages went away from my mailbox with it.

Pretty apparent where they all came from............good riddance and nice flush job !!

[J20in1st]

Thank you Clint Doll and Modjr1 for the upgrade to the board. 4m will now rise back to the top of the racing forums.

Wait a second, you're a brand new member here. How do you know what it was like?

[pink floyd]

Wait a second, you're a brand new member here. How do you know what it was like?

nice observation

[Barbecueboy]

nice observation

He isn't too hard to spot...........
Sorta like that great flo/ progressive commercial where she is standing up next to the darkened building...

" you know we can still see you don't you"

Dc/flo reply......." No you can't"

Ridiculous.......with the accentuation on dic.

[Barbecueboy]

Wait a second, you're a brand new member here. How do you know what it was like?

Like all the other times I've nailed him just like you just did,His reply will be that he has been around observing as a guest for a while before joining.......

Wait for it........wait for it.

[huskerdirt]

Stop posting 6 weeks ago because like many others was tired of dealing with the BS. Glad to see the moderators getting there moderation game right.

[B_K]

Welcome back husker. We don't always jive but you do usually have legit info.

[Barbecueboy]

Welcome back husker. We don't always jive but you do usually have legit info.

True dat.........

[plunks7]

Welcome back husker. We don't always jive but you do usually have legit info.

Glad to here from you husker. :)

[pink floyd]

Stop posting 6 weeks ago because like many others was tired of dealing with the BS. Glad to see the moderators getting there moderation game right.

good to see your name again

[Barbecueboy]

Report anything that doesn't quite seem right huh?

Is that what the mod said ?

[Kwd1253]

I think all the casey Roberts fans have now been banned, lol. The still havnt gotten me yet :-P

[golddirt]

and it took only 2 years to get this cleaned up!

[plunks7]

Where's my fun button, and what happened to all my pretty green dots?? :D

It's fum button:) And The MODS cleaned house for the better.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Stop posting 6 weeks ago because like many others was tired of dealing with the BS. Glad to see the moderators getting there moderation game right.Nice to see you back Husker. No more skittles under your name either, good.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

You admitted that you were not a 4m mod bbq. So why are you still trying to run the 4m board? So why do you not pm modjr1 with complaints, if you have any problems with anybody. That is what modjr1 told us all to do. The 4m board is for RACING topics.All I got is lol.;)

[race21j]

You admitted that you were not a 4m mod bbq. So why are you still trying to run the 4m board? So why do you not pm modjr1 with complaints, if you have any problems with anybody. That is what modjr1 told us all to do. The 4m board is for RACING topics.And what does this have to do with racing.????? Hey BBQ making any trips North this race season.? Prairie Dirt.?Would like to face to face with you some time.

[W2Racing09]

Report anything that doesn't quite seem right huh?

Is that what the mod said ?

Well I don't know if its someone alternate screen name, but it can't be Litey or Keith... The spelling, grammar and sentence structure are better than that of a third grader.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Cardirt0]

Things getting better around here.. I can live without all that green i had.. course the Tool they had to make you mad is gone...To all the Good posters on 4M is on the way back up......

[Clayton_Wetter]

Wait a second, you're a brand new member here. How do you know what it was like?

Because he's DirtClassic with his twentieth new username!!!

[Bubstr]

There is more than one multiple new user name on this thread alone. I'll give them the benefit of doubt and see if they can change their ways, before reporting to Mod's. I don't think anyone wants to ban anyone that can play well with others. We just want a decent place to talk racing.