Fergy or Franklin?

[W2Racing09]

So, I've watched the video of that wreck 3 or 4 times now. All I can say is it definitely looks like Rambo is at fault. But I keep seeing people all over the place saying that Chris Ferguson was at fault.

To me it looks like Rambo is trying to get under Roberts before they even cross the line, he is in the bottom groove going down the straight to take the green. I don't think anything was blatant but I don't think anyone can assign blame anywhere other than at Rambo.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Mudkat]

Looks to me Rambo was trying to get under Roberts and crowded Fergy. Fergy got into him which turned him into Fergy more and caused a big crash. Just hard racin I think.

Real question is how quick would Fergy and them other 2 boys been getting out of there if Rambo started climbing out of the car? Glad young Fergy sticking up for himself but dang, go after someone your own size.. LOL

[W2Racing09]

Looks to me Rambo was trying to get under Roberts and crowded Fergy. Fergy got into him which turned him into Fergy more and caused a big crash. Just hard racin I think.

Real question is how quick would Fergy and them other 2 boys been getting out of there if Rambo started climbing out of the car? Glad young Fergy sticking up for himself but dang, go after someone your own size.. LOL

Yeah, I could tell that the announcer was concerned that the situation might escalate. I don't think many of the security people jumped at the opportunity to go over there though.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Kwoods25]

Rambo has run over Fergy multiple times in the past. He drives people like that everywhere he runs. But let it be the other way around and see how he acts. Like a complete idiot.

[Barbecueboy]

Rambo has run over Fergy multiple times in the past. He drives people like that everywhere he runs. But let it be the other way around and see how he acts. Like a complete idiot.

I like them both.......but you are on to something there.

And for how he acts when he gets roughed up a little.......one just has to ask Scott bloomquist!!

[Phillip Michael Knight]

For those that can not find the video.

https://youtu.be/aPJHAgb8w_E

[Kwoods25]

Blomquist never roughed him up at Cherokee last year. He run in over his big head, when he knew it wouldnt work. Stopped being a rambo fan after him and overtones got into it a few years back. When he slid up in front of overton, next week overtones done it to him. He acts like a big baby when stuff don't go his way.

[SMARTT]

Rambo 100% at fault..

[Barbecueboy]

Blomquist never roughed him up at Cherokee last year. He run in over his big head, when he knew it wouldnt work. Stopped being a rambo fan after him and overtones got into it a few years back. When he slid up in front of overton, next week overtones done it to him. He acts like a big baby when stuff don't go his way.

Maybe roughed up was the wrong way to phrase it...........I was merely trying to point out and answer the question of how Dennis would act if " things didn't quite go his way"

Steering wheels start a flyin!!!!lol

[Kwoods25]

Lol correct!

[Barbecueboy]

Lol correct!

Rumor that Rambo will be trying out for our US Olympic discus team headed to Rio next summer??

Have you heard that???lmao

[Kwoods25]

Lmao that's a new one to me! Good one too

[Mudkat]

Everyone at the Blue Gray last year has to admit that Rambo going after that old hippie and doing the steering wheel toss was entertaining!

Anyone who has ever drove a late model has made a mistake and tore up equipment. But for goodness sake you do it and its on video, everyone on the internet becomes a freakin driving expert and bad mouths ya! Reality is they are strapped into 800-900 horsepower, 2300lb beast on the throttle and haulin azz inches apart, you going to get into each other. Think of it like this- when your going down the interstate at 65mph and theres a car in front of you, you keep a safe distance. Now your in a racecar and that cars in front of you at 100+mph, your inches apart and theres a few hundred extra dollars if you get past it, suddenly that car lets off or moves over a foot (remember your inches away) and BAM!!! Everyone on the internet gonna be bad mouthin ya tomorrow!
Its just stockcar racing, if you don't want them to touch go see indy cars!

[drtrkr244]

Everyone at the Blue Gray last year has to admit that Rambo going after that old hippie and doing the steering wheel toss was entertaining!

Anyone who has ever drove a late model has made a mistake and tore up equipment. But for goodness sake you do it and its on video, everyone on the internet becomes a freakin driving expert and bad mouths ya! Reality is they are strapped into 800-900 horsepower, 2300lb beast on the throttle and haulin azz inches apart, you going to get into each other. Think of it like this- when your going down the interstate at 65mph and theres a car in front of you, you keep a safe distance. Now your in a racecar and that cars in front of you at 100+mph, your inches apart and theres a few hundred extra dollars if you get past it, suddenly that car lets off or moves over a foot (remember your inches away) and BAM!!! Everyone on the internet gonna be bad mouthin ya tomorrow!
Its just stockcar racing, if you don't want them to touch go see indy cars!

^^^^^Ain't that the TRUTH! I even watched the video in slo-mo, and couldn't place 100% of the blame to any one driver. It was just "one of them thar racin deals"!

[B_K]

First off Ferguson did nothing wrong. I don't think Rambo's intent was for what happened to happen either. He's aggressive, and I'd call that move a little impatient, but you've got a split second to commit or not. He probably made the wrong one, and will be on the other end of the same deal before the year is out.

I can understand Ferguson's frustration. He has good runs go bad more than anyone I can think of. I have no clue of the inner workings of his team, but I have a question. Is he so short-handed that all the little things can't get checked up week to week, or is it just repeated bad luck? Honest question from someone who likes the guy.

[Barbecueboy]

Everyone at the Blue Gray last year has to admit that Rambo going after that old hippie and doing the steering wheel toss was entertaining!

Anyone who has ever drove a late model has made a mistake and tore up equipment. But for goodness sake you do it and its on video, everyone on the internet becomes a freakin driving expert and bad mouths ya! Reality is they are strapped into 800-900 horsepower, 2300lb beast on the throttle and haulin azz inches apart, you going to get into each other. Think of it like this- when your going down the interstate at 65mph and theres a car in front of you, you keep a safe distance. Now your in a racecar and that cars in front of you at 100+mph, your inches apart and theres a few hundred extra dollars if you get past it, suddenly that car lets off or moves over a foot (remember your inches away) and BAM!!! Everyone on the internet gonna be bad mouthin ya tomorrow!
Its just stockcar racing, if you don't want them to touch go see indy cars!

Nice post mudkat.......and very good perspective!

I agree the wheel toss last year was entertaining.

Dennis ( like many others) has an aggressive driving style, he sometimes takes big risks and often gets the big reward.

This past Saturday was just not one of those cases.


BUT????????? It is a lot easier these days to look at and scrutinize and deduce what happened with all of the cameras , angles, replays and such to be able to determine fault instead of just chalking it up to onedemracindeals...........as so many times have been said in the past.

Was a bad deal for everybody involved this past weekend........messed up some nice cars.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Hard to call that one. Rambo turns down to stay off of Roberts, and Fergy has a run and is there. I'd honestly call it more of just a racing deal.

[00turbot/a]

Watched it a couple of times and it was just hard racing. Rambo races hard and sometimes it pays off and sometimes it ends like this. He was really aggressive at Smokey Mountain Sat night and it paid off, but he had alot of close calls, and def pissed some drivers off

[Kwoods25]

Rambo said he had fergy cleared and turned down. He never had fergy cleared. He was beside him the whole time. And make that move that early in the race is stupid.

[ready2rd]

What about that announcer my god is he excited .

[Bigracer93]

That just wasn't a veteran move at all! Someone that races as much as Rambo should know better than to try that.. If he would have been on the bottom and tried a lane change like that he would have been pissed that Fergy put him in the wall! It was good to see Fergy stand up for him self especially against someone Rambo's size.. I think the frustrations of this season are starting to boil over

[drtrkr244]

What about that announcer my god is he excited .

Yeah... he's trying to stop the fight and we all are wanting to see one!

[Captain Happy]

Rambo making a fool of himself again shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone...

[drano]

Maybe he was wanting to be first in line at the all you can eat gravy and biscuit bar

[Captain Happy]

Maybe he was wanting to be first in line at the all you can eat gravy and biscuit bar

Can't blame the guy on that account!! It's biscuits and gravy... :)

[drano]

And it was Sunday gotta beat the church bunch to get a good seat.

[drtrkr244]

Ol Fergy could have put the beat down on ol Rambo. That's one of the problems with being as big as Rambo, you cant climb out of your car real fast.

[Kwd1253]

It was pretty much Rambo fault and it was race thing at same time.. Rambo and Chris was racing for real state. If Rambo would went higher he would washed up the track like Roberts. Robters would of got passed by the car on bottom groove if Rambo and Chris didn't get tangle up. Rambo knew that, that why he tried stay at the bottom. Not the best move if the other guy don't lift to let you have it. At same time Hickman got into Chris rear when they was trying get off each other. that what made Chris turn into Rambo made things worst then what it was, So Hickman is at fault too! He seen Rambo and Chris leaning on each other he should of lifted a very to not get in Chris rear. But this is racing you only got 1/2 sec make the right call and if wrong call it doesn't turn out good. So when add all this in it's a hard racing thing. No one gave respect to each other's real state and other drivers had to pay for it too.

[SuperEight]

So, I've watched the video of that wreck 3 or 4 times now. All I can say is it definitely looks like Rambo is at fault. But I keep seeing people all over the place saying that Chris Ferguson was at fault.

To me it looks like Rambo is trying to get under Roberts before they even cross the line, he is in the bottom groove going down the straight to take the green. I don't think anything was blatant but I don't think anyone can assign blame anywhere other than at Rambo.

Thanks,
Jeff.

I read about this on here first and thought maybe it was true, but... Went and watched it myself this morning, maybe 8 times and from the point where it starts it doesn't look like Rambo was at fault. If you watch his RF tire he is already trying to steer away from Fergy but it seems from this angle that Fergy was more or less shoving Rambo out of shape until finally sending Rambo airborne. I realize a lot of you guys on here are fans and have never driven competitively, but if you have driven you'll see what i'm talking about, go back and watch Rambo's RF, he's trying to steer away from Fergy. Fergy has Rambo on the hook and could have let him off and avoided that whole may-lee. Its the difference between being aggressive and over aggressive. I like both drivers but Rambo isn't at fault, not from what is available to watch on DOD.

[Barbecueboy]

Oh brother.................

[W2Racing09]

I read about this on here first and thought maybe it was true, but... Went and watched it myself this morning, maybe 8 times and from the point where it starts it doesn't look like Rambo was at fault. If you watch his RF tire he is already trying to steer away from Fergy but it seems from this angle that Fergy was more or less shoving Rambo out of shape until finally sending Rambo airborne. I realize a lot of you guys on here are fans and have never driven competitively, but if you have driven you'll see what i'm talking about, go back and watch Rambo's RF, he's trying to steer away from Fergy. Fergy has Rambo on the hook and could have let him off and avoided that whole may-lee. Its the difference between being aggressive and over aggressive. I like both drivers but Rambo isn't at fault, not from what is available to watch on DOD.

I still don't think there is any excuse for Rambo being in Ferguson's lane before the green flag drops. I'm not saying it isn't a normal racing thing, but if blame needs to be assigned that is the first thing to look at. Perhaps Fergy was pushing back, I'm sure he wasn't too happy that Rambo was crowding him like that.

Had the incident not occurred Rambo might have passed Roberts on the inside before the line, isn't that a penalty of some kind? I know when I raced (on asphalt) you would get put to the back if you passed on the inside before the S/F line.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[SuperEight]

I still don't think there is any excuse for Rambo being in Ferguson's lane before the green flag drops. I'm not saying it isn't a normal racing thing, but if blame needs to be assigned that is the first thing to look at. Perhaps Fergy was pushing back, I'm sure he wasn't too happy that Rambo was crowding him like that.

Had the incident not occurred Rambo might have passed Roberts on the inside before the line, isn't that a penalty of some kind? I know when I raced (on asphalt) you would get put to the back if you passed on the inside before the S/F line.

Thanks,
Jeff.
All I can comment on or give opinion to is what is available for me to see on the DOD video, I wasn't there. It appears, from what is available, that either Fergy didn't get a good start or Rambo got a very good one or both and Rambo moved to take the lower lane. Nobody owns a particular lane, he may occupy it, but if there is a hole or gap then its up for grabs. As long as you don't jump the start/restart or pass before the start cone you can pass as many folks as you can manage. This was a lap 16 restart by what I've read, so once you clear the start cone(which is coming outta turn 4), it's "Game On!" you don't have to wait till the start/finish line to pass, just the start cone. Now going back to what may have happened is probably something like, Rambo got a good start and a gap opened in front of Fergy, now he may not have been totally clear and crowded Fergy some. Is this right or wrong? Fergy could've backed down... Rambo could've not gambled... I wish the video started a little sooner, but it doesn't and so I cant really say what brought about the initial contact, but decisions could've been made by both parties to give instead of take and saved a lot of torn up race cars. Have a great week.

[buster83]

looks like whole bunch anxious drivers wanting to win race on first lap,lots of pushing and shoving going on,no doubt rambo was in middle of it not sure he caused all of it.