Peoria tonight

[rickybrown1952]

47 latemodels 36 mods

[PROPOWER]

Great car count tonight.

[falsfanb12]

race monitor must be screwing up only counted 33

[golddirt]

anything else?

[CRK]

Great turnout. 48 LM qualified. Moyer Jr. fast overall again. BShepp, Babb, Erb lead groups.

[pink floyd]

erb jr wins tonight

[golddirt]

i agree also

[Cardirt0]

Pulling for Erb .. Go Dennis

[ride height]

Anybody know how the 75 (Drake) did? Thank you

[pink floyd]

Anybody know how the 75 (Drake) did? Thank you

4th in heat 1, starts inside row 7

[ride height]

Wow. Thank you. Hes got his work cut out. Appreciate that sir

[smoothoperator32]

Super Late Models - A-Main (Laps - 40) June 23, 2015
Row Inside Outside
1 32 - Pierce 24 - Unzicker
2 58R - Guss Jr 18 - Babb
3 B5 - Sheppard 6K - Kloos
4 21JR - Moyer Jr 28E - Erb, Jr
5 25 - Feger C8 - Culp
6 10 - Rebholz 12B - Weaver
7 75D - Drake 7T - Thorsten
8 T2 - Bennett 1M - Moon
9 42 - Wenger 38C - Gardner Jr
10 124 - Hahler 10S - Schmitt
11 4G - Gardner 89 - Spatola

[CRK]

Patrick Davis50s50 seconds agoPatrick Davis ‏@pdavis18491988Babb Pierce Unzicker Erb Jr Guss Jr Sheppard Moyer Jr Kloos Feger Culp. 20/40 in.

[Nasty55]

I hope that 10s gets close enough to the 32 car to give him a little of his own medicine tonight.... Just sayin.... :)

[CRK]

Patrick Davis21s21 seconds agoPatrick Davis ‏@pdavis18491988Top 10 @SummerNationals: Babb Pierce Unzicker Erb Jr Moyer Jr Guss Jr Feger Sheppard Kloos Weaver top 10 @PeoriaSpeedway

[smoothoperator32]

Super Late Models - A-Main June 23, 2015
Pos Car # Driver
1 18 Shannon Babb
2 32 Bobby Pierce (great points nite)
3 24 Ryan Unzicker
4 28E Dennis Erb, Jr
5 21JR Billy Moyer Jr
6 58R Ray Guss Jr
7 25 Jason Feger
8 B5 Brandon Sheppard
9 6K Michael Kloos
10 12B Kevin Weaver
11 T2 Todd Bennett
12 C8 Timothy Culp
13 42 MCKay Wenger
14 89 Mike Spatola
15 1M Jim Moon
16 7T Steve Thorsten
17 10 Roger Rebholz
18 124 John Hahler
19 4G Bob Gardner
20 38C John Gardner Jr
21 75D Billy Drake
22 10S Scott Schmitt

[Thunderbolt27]

Congrats to Babb. Doesn't look like there was much passing by finish order.

[LMMS24]

Babb 2 crossover moves on Unzicker and Pierce that were terrific. He had her going on the top in 3 and 4.

[Hollis]

Anybody know how the 75 (Drake) did? Thank you Broke a shock pulledout

[edavis71]

Broke a shock pulledout

Was it a clean pass by Babb Oley???

[Highside Hustler25]

Babb 2 crossover moves on Unzicker and Pierce that were terrific. He had her going on the top in 3 and 4.

Those 2 moves were the highlights of the night for sure. There was just nothing to be found coming off turn 2. Babb was one of the few to figure that out early.
Only other highlights was the slider in the hornet class, and lil Bobby booting that back runner just before he got passed by Babb.

[edavis71]

Babb kicked Bobby's ass again!!! Lol :cool:

Was it a clean pass by Babb Oley???

[blncfn57]

I hope that 10s gets close enough to the 32 car to give him a little of his own medicine tonight.... Just sayin.... :)

Didn't happen. 7th in the heat wont get you close enough.

[rayburnracer18]

How about that another rocket win
How about Babb is the man!

[george w]

Those 2 moves were the highlights of the night for sure. There was just nothing to be found coming off turn 2. Babb was one of the few to figure that out early.
Only other highlights was the slider in the hornet class, and lil Bobby booting that back runner just before he got passed by Babb.Bobby dont boot, door slam, or take out ANYONE ! Your just another on of them "haterz" the posse always refers to aint ya lol

[Nasty55]

Didn't happen. 7th in the heat wont get you close enough.


Awe come on now blncfn57 one can could wish couldn't they lol?

[ss12]

So hygty, should we call him the "aggressive operator" instead of the "smooth operator"?

[lm3754]

Was babb in his rocket or his new black diamond

[Hollis]

Babb did lay down the gauntlet last night. Beat the kid by a straight away.

[Diesel Dog]

Bobby "Squirt" Pierce proved once again he'll run right thru ya!!

[MUD MAESTRO]

Babb muscles his way underneath Unzicker for 2nd then finesses Pierce for the win. Glad I went, big crowd and unbelieable 48 LM"s. Luv those guys ruuning the hairy top side. Anyone notice the fine run by gray beard Ray Guss Jr?

[skids]

Those 2 moves were the highlights of the night for sure. There was just nothing to be found coming off turn 2. Babb was one of the few to figure that out early.
Only other highlights was the slider in the hornet class, and lil Bobby booting that back runner just before he got passed by Babb.

Did you hear Bobby's explanation? He said he was getting ready to go wide on him and he "let off the gas" so Bobby got into him. Makes perfect sense. Drivers are always getting off the gas coming out of a turn. :)

BTW, where did the "black flag" thread disappear to????

[MotoMatt]

It is now located in butthurtville...

[Scott Boesel]

I think its crazy that on a Tuesday night for $5k you get almost 50 cars and when i went to cedar lake they had maybe 25 cars for a Saturday night and $10k to win thats crazy. All i can say is Illinois people You guys are so lucky lol

[blncfn57]

Did you hear Bobby's explanation? He said he was getting ready to go wide on him and he "let off the gas" so Bobby got into him. Makes perfect sense. Drivers are always getting off the gas coming out of a turn. :)

BTW, where did the "black flag" thread disappear to????

you mean that car that was getting lapped? How come it's ok to run over a lap car at fairbury, but not peoria? oh, i forgot, it's all about who is doing the running over. I'm not sure who the guy was or how he made the race, but I think he finished like 6 laps down.

[Highside Hustler25]

Did you hear Bobby's explanation? He said he was getting ready to go wide on him and he "let off the gas" so Bobby got into him. Makes perfect sense. Drivers are always getting off the gas coming out of a turn. :)

BTW, where did the "black flag" thread disappear to????

I just find it interesting how some zig and zag their way thru traffic, and some just go right thru ya. Shannon Babb made 2 awesome passes last night and never made contact. When he went under Unzicker, there couldn't have been a inch between cars but never touched.
Not sayin Bobby did it intentionally but he followed the lapped car around for at least a lap or 2. Plan your pass before you get there.

The black flag thread? That one probably got deleted last night around 10:27PM or around lap 19:rolleyes:

[DLM06]

So Babb and Pierce both cause cautions and get their spots back??? As long as your running up front you can run over whoever and whenever you want? How about 2nd place ? 3rd? If the purse is big enough? How bad can the car get tore up? The driver? When is not ok? Doesn't take much skill to stay out in front that way. Is UMP the only group that allows this?

[skids]

you mean that car that was getting lapped? How come it's ok to run over a lap car at fairbury, but not peoria? oh, i forgot, it's all about who is doing the running over. I'm not sure who the guy was or how he made the race, but I think he finished like 6 laps down.

Yep. That's the one. The same one everybody BUT Bobby found a clean way around.

I know you don't think there is a difference, but I see a difference between attempting a pass in traffic and dooring a guy (i.e. Babb a FALS) and just flat out dooring a guy into the wall when nobody is around (i.e. Pierce at FALS). I also see a difference between dooring a lap car attempting to get around them IN TRAFFIC and PUNTING them from behind and claiming they let off the gas coming OUT of a corner.

I happen to disagree with UMP's disregard for lapped cars getting taken out. I would have no problem seeing the leader put to the tail for doing so. And while I think Babb's was a different situation with Thorston at FALS because he didn't "take him out" (spin him). I wouldn't have disagreed too loudly if Babb was put back for it.

Lapped cars are part of racing. If a driver can figure a way to use them as a pick, more power to them. I do not think they should be allowed to be punted at will because they are slower than the field and the guy who punts them get his spot back. If he's that slow FIND A WAY AROUND HIM!

[Highside Hustler25]

Yep. That's the one. The same one everybody BUT Bobby found a clean way around.

I know you don't think there is a difference, but I see a difference between attempting a pass in traffic and dooring a guy (i.e. Babb a FALS) and just flat out dooring a guy into the wall when nobody is around (i.e. Pierce at FALS). I also see a difference between dooring a lap car attempting to get around them IN TRAFFIC and PUNTING them from behind and claiming they let off the gas coming OUT of a corner.

I happen to disagree with UMP's disregard for lapped cars getting taken out. I would have no problem seeing the leader put to the tail for doing so. And while I think Babb's was a different situation with Thorston at FALS because he didn't "take him out" (spin him). I wouldn't have disagreed too loudly if Babb was put back for it.

Lapped cars are part of racing. If a driver can figure a way to use them as a pick, more power to them. I do not think they should be allowed to be punted at will because they are slower than the field and the guy who punts them get his spot back. If he's that slow FIND A WAY AROUND HIM!

Thank You for that assessment skids. UMP should copy, enlarge, frame and post this at all of the drivers meetings. That last sentence sums up the whole story here.

[800hp]

We had a great time at the race. I thought the LM feature racing was great! There were a bunch of cars running the high side trying to march forward. Got the feature on vid if anyone is interested. Nice to see a 4m'er racing last night...The 09 of Riddell. Nice job! I did go to the pits and talked with Bobby briefly. Great kid, was more than happy to take some time to chat about the race despite all the teams hurrying to get to the next gig. Snapped a photo of him and my son. He was very personable so thanks to him for taking some time to talk. As far as the punting goes I think I got that on vid so maybe once it's posted it will be easier to see what all was going on. I recall it was pretty tight when that happened. Great job by Peoria track crew getting the track in great shape. Even the hornet races were good. And how about Mike Harrison? Man that dude was flying. Great time for sure!

[LMMS24]

the track was one groove last night there is the problem

Babb didn't have any problem blowin by Pierce and Unzicker on the top...

[Fuzzy Focus]

Doesn't matter how many laps it took him, you only have to lead one!!

[Olskool23]

Babb spoke highly of Bobby in post race last night. Seems only the haters on here have the problem.

[Bubstr]

the track was one groove last night there is the problem

There was a high side on 3 and 4, not so much on 1 and 2.

The 124 that got punted, was in everyone's way. He needs to practice up a bit before he tackles the Summer Nationals. There is just way too much speed difference between him and the field. The leaders where getting on him in about 3 laps. When your closing that fast, things happen fast.

[Highside Hustler25]

the track was one groove last night there is the problem

You have no clue as you were not there. Please shut the #### up.

Ask Shannon Babb if it was a 1 groove track? Or Wenger? Or Feger?

The heats were on the bottom.

The feature had both. The top was the fastest way around in 3 and 4. The bottom was just a tick faster than the top in 1 and 2.

[800hp]

Once I have my video uploaded I'll post a link and you can judge for yourself where the grooves were. But sure looked like Babb, Wenger, Little, Feger and several others , Pierce included, were using the high side quite a bit. Even in 1 & 2. It was far from a one groove track.

[racedad17]

oh and by the way its not a lay over flag! it should be called hold your line flag, and as long as the driver does that and the leader turns him (like bobby did) then he (or anyone) needs sent to the back i dont care if its lap 1 or the last lap! ump and the tracks not making these calls has no balls and this will continue to happen until they do.
and then when this happens then what will we have to talk about?

[MUD MAESTRO]

Ok, the top side came in late , but when Wenger used the high side in the b main, I knew we had a race........As far as the Pierce incident, the #124 of Hahler was the culprit. Don't put this on Bobby's rap sheet.

[plunks7]

There was a high side on 3 and 4, not so much on 1 and 2.

The 124 that got punted, was in everyone's way. He needs to practice up a bit before he tackles the Summer Nationals. There is just way too much speed difference between him and the field. The leaders where getting on him in about 3 laps. When your closing that fast, things happen fast.

Bubst - The 124 car is a very young man. In one weeks time from Cedar Lake to Farley he looked a lot better. He knows darn well it will be difficult to win. But you can't blame someone for giving their best effort and trying to learn how to race. There is no better feeling than racing with Big name Drivers. He has learned more in this month so far than you could imagine. If this is his Gig more power to him. He Loves racing and he is the student and the teachers are teaching. That's all the young man asks for!!!!!

[chupp n bloomer fan]

you mean that car that was getting lapped? How come it's ok to run over a lap car at fairbury, but not peoria? oh, i forgot, it's all about who is doing the running over. I'm not sure who the guy was or how he made the race, but I think he finished like 6 laps down.I think it was more the hypocrisy that you Pierce fans wanted Babb strung up, but not Pierce. Then the next race, he turns around and does the same thing.

Personally, I seem to be in the minority, but if they are a lapper about to cost me a race, it's chrome horn time.

[blncfn57]

He gets a provisional because he is racing the whole tour team mate of Jim Moon he;s improving every race that more than you say for many others he is also a rookie ran a b mod for a few times before this also under powered with a ct 525

I don't think he will make belle-clair tonight, he's prolly still trying to finish the 50 laps from last night.

[Diesel Dog]

blncfn57 has his head stuck up Bobby"Squirt" Azz so far he can't see,No other driver had trouble passing that car,so 57 resorts back to taking jabs at the lapped car. Real classy just like the Diarrhea driver from Danville area