#FALS Night 2

[CarolinaDirt]

Alright I have had my nap , lets kick this off with some video courtesy of Jacqueline Brush on periscope

https://www.periscope.tv/w/aIPczTU4MDI2NDR8NDY5MDEzNDN1jfED7YgJSaxX7yMcGwssZp t1be115qOzsZ3AB49ghg==

https://www.periscope.tv/w/aIPmgzU4MDI2NDR8NDY5MzAwMjktZPTfuktk8gFd5vp2r7ffK7 b62XZrKMhd-NzmVS7QkQ==

Live Audio for tonight www.dirtvision.com

Race Monitor https://www.race-monitor.com/Live/Race/33745

Who you taking for the 100 lapper tonight ?

Gotta pull for JD but hard to pull against Weaver and Babb at the PDC . There is also a 100 % chance of some black sunshine tonight .

[TackyTracker]

Moyer Sr wins it

[CarolinaDirt]

Thanks bro-ham!! I'll check back in after the big race at Sycamore tonight!! If I win, free bubble gum for all the 4m'ers!!!! ;)

Wreckers or Checkers and I want my gum GRAPE !! Cya later tonight .

[george w]

The updates where much appreciated lastnight, and will be even more appreciated tonight as im getting ready to go punch that timeclock. As for who im pulling for tonight im gonna go with anyone BUT J.D. Bloomer or Clanton, hope my fantasy picks pull thru but im hoping for a local to keep the cash in iIllinois, wouldn't bother me a bit if a Satterlee or even Chad Hollenbeck took home the big check ive liked how Hollenbeck has stayed around the midwest while getting his hauler worked on .....

[george w]

I thought about singling out one guy to pull for a minute and im going with The Squirrel Brian Shirely, the guys been thru alot this year hasnt had the opportunity to get out an race like he is accustomed to but still has been fast most the places he's unloaded . Hope tonights his night!

[CarolinaDirt]

If I had to pick one it would be the hometown Hero Weaver , I agree though George too many good ones to root for

[Crash 4]

Mother Nature

I hope not, but they better not dilly-dally.

If not Ma Nature, I'm pulling for Kevin Weaver.

[CarolinaDirt]

Mother Nature

I hope not, but they better not dilly-dally.

If not Ma Nature, I'm pulling for Kevin Weaver.

Looks pretty good 30 % chance at 8 pm 15% after that

http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/USIL0393:1:US

You never know with those pop up thunderstorms this time of year

[Crash 4]

Looks pretty good 30 % chance at 8 pm 15% after that

http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/USIL0393:1:US

You never know with those pop up thunderstorms this time of year

Hope your right, I'm looking at local radar, while not close yet, alot of stuff developing.

[george w]

Can Babb make it in starting dead last in the second b-main, there taking top 2 ???

[CarolinaDirt]

Lineups

20 laps ( Top 2 Transfer )

Last Chance #1

Morgan Bagley Greg Satterlee
Chris Simpson Boom Briggs
Rick Eckert Jimmy Mars
Scott Schmitt Chad Hollenbeck
Kolby Vanderbergh James Rice
Mike Mulvain Levi Kissinger
Jay Morris McKay Wenger
John Gardener Jr Mark Larson
Cole Swibold Snooky Dehm
Aaron Ricketts

Last Chance #2

Ryan Unzicker Jason Feger
Scott Bull Brian Shirley
Earl Pearson Jr. Kyle Hammer
Mike Glass(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) Mike Spatola
Darren Friedman Billy Hough
Steve Thorsten Mike Matargas
Josh Rice Glenn Thompson
Jordan Yaggy Joe Harlan
Bob Gardner Mike McGuire
Shannon Babb

[plunks7]

Bloomquist if they get it in. But I also think Feger could pull a rabbit out of his hat.

[CarolinaDirt]

Can Babb make it in starting dead last in the second b-main, there taking top 2 ???

I wonder how their provisionals work ? Babb knows his way around the place if anyone can get it done he can .

[Kwd1253]

I'm rooting for chubzilla to win, he been so close couple times this year. he looked good last night, think its time for him get one.

[george w]

The way i understand it there taking the top 2 from the two b-mains and taking two WOO provisionals then whoever qualifys for WOO emergency provinals ......

[CarolinaDirt]

Last Chance hotlaps rolling dirtvision audio just went live

[plunks7]

I'm rooting for chubzilla to win, he been so close couple times this year. he looked good last night, think its time for him get one.

He's way over due. I like your pick Kwd1253.

[mll8pt]

Moyer Sr wins it

you betchya, I see and moyer/bloomer finish. best two lm drivers ever. hope its a good race.

[CarolinaDirt]

Feature Redraw

Zeigler Moyer Sr.
Bloomquist Moyer Jr.
Junghans Erb Jr

[CarolinaDirt]

Last Chance Races rolling

[CarolinaDirt]

Caution Lap 4 Bagley, Simpson , Hollenbeck ,Briggs,Schmitt

Caution for Satterlee jumped the cushion

[CarolinaDirt]

10 to go

Bagley , Simpson , Briggs , Schmitt

Caution for Wells blown motor

[CarolinaDirt]

Last Chance 1 Finish

Bagley , Briggs , Schmitt , Simpson , Mars ,

Top 2 to the feature

https://www.race-monitor.com/Results/Session/5489202

[CarolinaDirt]

Last Chance 2 rolling can Babb do it from the tail ?

[CarolinaDirt]

8 to go Feger , Unzicker , Shirley , Bull , Spatola

Caution for debris , Babb to 10th

[CarolinaDirt]

Last Chance 2 Finish

Feger , Shirley , Unzicker , Spatola

Top 2 to the feature Babb from the tail to 8th

https://www.race-monitor.com/Results/Session/5489260

[rickybrown1952]

Dennis erb for the win

[CarolinaDirt]

Woo Provisionals Eckert , Wells
Track Provisionals Bull , Friedman

[CarolinaDirt]

Prairie Dirt Classic Starting Lineup

Billy Moyer Mason Zeigler
Scott Bloomquist Billy Moyer Jr
Chase Junghans Dennis Erb Jr
Kevin Weaver Jonathan Davenport
Tim McCreadie Shane Clanton
Chub Frank Eric Smith
Brandon Overton Brandon Sheppard
Jimmy Owens Josh Richards
Frank Heckenast Jr Torin Metille
Morgan Bagley Jason Feger
Boom Briggs Brian Shirley
Rick Eckert Eric Wells
Scott Bull Darren Friedman

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Prairie Dirt Classic Starting Lineup

Billy Moyer Mason Zeigler
Scott Bloomquist Billy Moyer Jr
Chase Junghans Dennis Erb Jr
Kevin Weaver Jonathan Davenport
Tim McCreadie Shane Clanton
Chub Frank Eric Smith
Brandon Overton Brandon Sheppard
Jimmy Owens Josh Richards
Frank Heckenast Jr Torin Metille
Morgan Bagley Jason Feger
Boom Briggs Brian Shirley
Rick Eckert Eric Wells
Scott Bull Darren FriedmanBabb didn't make the show, there goes my points. Shoulda picked a Lucas guy or Feger or Moyer.

[pierceFAN]

well my nephew and i made our pics thursday before a car hit the track...he picked Davenport and I picked Moyer JrJr

[CarolinaDirt]

https://www.periscope.tv/w/aIQqizU4MDI2NDR8NDcxMjIzMzHh9-h_mUDA8P2AV7O4g18dhAVKvalbECMFgeeHEnb0sA==

Hotlaps video

[CarolinaDirt]

Babb didn't make the show, there goes my points. Shoulda picked a Lucas guy or Feger or Moyer.

Yeah it stinks but with the runs Babb has had the last two years I couldn't blame you for making that pick

[Nasty55]

Yeah it stinks but with the runs Babb has had the last two years I couldn't blame you for making that pick




I think it's kind of screwed up that they didn't give Babb a provisional to be honest.....

[CarolinaDirt]

I agree 100 %

[Nasty55]

Babb didn't make the show, there goes my points. Shoulda picked a Lucas guy or Feger or Moyer.




You picked the right guy CNB they just screwed the pooch on this one is all bud...... Babb is a stud at this track!!

[waaac77]

It does suck because I like Babb but no free lunches in this life. I see a Moyer Jr Jr Bloomer Moyer Sr Sr battle

[CarolinaDirt]

Rain falling at the PDC , track going into a delay

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Yeah it stinks but with the runs Babb has had the last two years I couldn't blame you for making that pickYeah, I mean he doesn't travel as much, and is usually money at his home tracks. But oh well, I wasn't in the top five or anything.

[Nasty55]

Rain falling at the PDC , track going into a delay


Hope they get this race in tonight Carolina... And don't turn it into a day race tomorrow...

[Cardirt0]

Ant going to last long and got missed by most of the harder stuff

[CarolinaDirt]

Glad I had my nap lol

[Nasty55]

Ant going to last long and got missed by most of the harder stuff



Hey Gary how are ya tonight brother?

[Nasty55]

Glad I had my nap lol



Lol hell I've had enough rest this week Carolina I spent 3 days back in the hospital again... I told them I just needed to buy a room at the hospital with as much time as I've been in there this summer... Lol

[Cardirt0]

Hey Gary how are ya tonight brother?

Not too bad tonight.. Had a nap like CarolinaDirt so hope to not fall a sleep till its all over lol.. Wish I could have gone tonight just too much walking for me...

[Nasty55]

Not too bad tonight.. Had a nap like CarolinaDirt so hope to not fall a sleep till its all over lol.. Wish I could have gone tonight just too much walking for me...



Yeah man I know what you mean I've missed alot of racing this summer myself because of my health so I can relate my friend....

[Cardirt0]

Yeah man I know what you mean I've missed alot of racing this summer myself because of my health so I can relate my friend....
I need too win the lotto... I put new seats on back S. at FarmerCity with one of them things were the doors open and up you go to your seats for me and some of my friends ...With parking right there ...

[CarolinaDirt]

Lol hell I've had enough rest this week Carolina I spent 3 days back in the hospital again... I told them I just needed to buy a room at the hospital with as much time as I've been in there this summer... Lol

Hate to hear that Nasty hope its nothing too serious , I know you have had a rough go of it lately . We have been praying for ya and will continue to do so .

[Cardirt0]

Sorry too here that Nasty I have only spent 2 days there this year .. Much better then last year......

[Cardirt0]

Will looks like its past them now ..Just wander how much they got .. depends how long too get the track back .. Them Boys at Fairbury Know how to get her going...Radar look like it was all Lite stuff....

[CarolinaDirt]

Saw on twitter the rain has stopped at the speedway

[Kwd1253]

Babb didn't make the show, there goes my points. Shoulda picked a Lucas guy or Feger or Moyer.Scott said your fired being his scale man, you didn't put him as your 4th group.

[plunks7]

Hey Gary how are ya tonight brother?

Hello Gentlemen. Hope things are getting better for everyone. I also took a nap to prep myself to stay up for this race. :) I had surgery on Monday On my finger- cut a tendon. Must be hospital week. LOL Maybe we should ask the Mods if we can have are own section. It sure is nice to talk to people that understand and have some laughs. It sure makes me feel good. I hope it's the same for you.

[Cardirt0]

Hello Gentlemen. Hope things are getting better for everyone. I also took a nap to prep myself to stay up for this race. :) I had surgery on Monday On my finger- cut a tendon. Must be hospital week. LOL Maybe we should ask the Mods if we can have are own section. It sure is nice to talk to people that understand and have some laughs. It sure makes me feel good. I hope it's the same for you.
Boy plunks a little food for though when the doc says you can work that finger work it hard or them tendon can get tight....Hurt more at first less later.... hope it heals up for you.....

[CarolinaDirt]

Thanks for the help last night plunks somebody has to keep this board going no need for a new section lol . There used to be threads like this every time there was a big race . Sure miss Montana no one could do it better . Looks like the track crew is getting the speedway back in shape , gonna be a late one but should be a dandy .

[Cardirt0]

Don't mine it being late when god does it.. Glad he just made it late not Sunday...
yea Montana the Man

[plunks7]

Thanks, Cardirt0 and CarolinaDirt but wouldn't it be funny if we all fell asleep tonight and none of us new the outcome. I have to take my Meds soon. So its very possible for me. LOL

[CarolinaDirt]

Not saying it won't happen rofl

[Cardirt0]

Thanks, Cardirt0 and CarolinaDirt but wouldn't it be funny if we all feel asleep tonight and none of us new the outcome. I have to take my Meds soon. So its very possible for me. LOL

Need too give you some of My meds you WILL not go to sleep lol

[CarolinaDirt]

10 minute call mods to staging

[CarolinaDirt]

Also to pass the time Southern Nationals at Screven on race monitor https://www.race-monitor.com/Live/Race/33770

[plunks7]

Did Moyer Load up because track will be to rough?LOL

[CarolinaDirt]

Did Moyer Load up because track will be to rough?LOL

LOL gonna take a big right foot tonight

[Cardirt0]

Don't think it will be rough,,, heavy first 50 Could be real fast...

[moyerfan1]

Gonna take moyer from the pole to win....

[plunks7]

Gonna take moyer from the pole to win....

I for the life of me can't figure out why. LOL

[Cardirt0]

This is were they Boys that run here all the time know how too set up the car.. Hit the set up fast... Miss it too the back you go....

[CarolinaDirt]

Were back racing at FALS mods B main 1 rolling , PDC will follow B main 2

[Cardirt0]

Mods just enough laps too smooth the track out....

[Cardirt0]

Mods running 1/2 sec faster then they were be for...

[CarolinaDirt]

Yeah its quick

[CarolinaDirt]

Change non qualifier race up next

[Cardirt0]

Mod race Winner was running 1 sec faster per lap then be for the rain.....

[Cardirt0]

Change non qualifier race up next

Wish they were running that after cause the track is Prime for 100 laps now

[CarolinaDirt]

I think its only 30 laps track is right that is for sure .

[CarolinaDirt]

Turning qualifying times in the non qualifiers race Unzicker with a 12.832

[Cardirt0]

The people that are there may not care that there was a rain del.. after its all said and done....

[CarolinaDirt]

Wenger , Unzicker , Rice . Hollenbeck finish non qualifiers race

Wenger with a last lap pass off 4

[Cardirt0]

Unzicker lead all the wrong laps...

[plunks7]

only 4 cars finished on lead lap.

[CarolinaDirt]

only 4 cars finished on lead lap.

They had a pileup on the 1st lap I'm sure quite a few had damage .

[CarolinaDirt]

Start of the PDC https://www.periscope.tv/w/aIRTdTU4MDI2NDR8NDcyMDc2OTYPvYHOuBWjsCCY7-wDuZptjqWB8LnrnRsH4PRLISVAEw==

[Nasty55]

Hate to hear that Nasty hope its nothing too serious , I know you have had a rough go of it lately . We have been praying for ya and will continue to do so .




I appreciate your kindness Carolina yeah it was a rough week bud I had to have a pacemaker put in on Tuesday so I was in the hospital from Monday til Wednesday night... But I feel a whole lot better than what I did bud..

[CarolinaDirt]

Davenport from 8th to 4th , Moyer , Zeigler , Bloomquist , Superman , Clanton , Erb , 7 down caution

[CarolinaDirt]

Looks racey from the vid

[CarolinaDirt]

JD to 3rd on the restart , Zeigler throws the slider on Moyer no dice , Bloomquist fading

[CarolinaDirt]

Caution lap 12 for Wells

Moyer , Zeigler , Davenport , Erb , Clanton , Bloomquist

[CarolinaDirt]

20 in Erb Jr to 2nd

[CarolinaDirt]

Erb Jr. to the lead followed by Moyer , Zeigler , Davenport , Clanton 68 to fo

Bloomquist faded to 12th

[PROPOWER]

Erb gets by moyer

[PROPOWER]

looks like Erb jr is running away with it.

[CarolinaDirt]

Davenport to 3rd on the top , Erb , Moyer , Superman , Clanton , Zeigler caution 57 to go

Bloomquist to 15th

[CarolinaDirt]

Video https://www.periscope.tv/w/aIRYgDU4MDI2NDR8NDcyMTU5OTlBf3era9Eok6sB2pcGbS7KCp 04DFWup_0joAsnXEmVAg==

[Nasty55]

Davenport to 3rd on the top , Erb , Moyer , Superman , Clanton , Zeigler caution 57 to go

Bloomquist to 15th




What happened to Bloomquist? I thought he was up towards the front?

[CarolinaDirt]

https://www.periscope.tv/w/aIRY9jU4MDI2NDR8NDcyMTcyNjTzEZCW25nSPIxUvG7ZZSBtpq yiD7vypGtJrL9YZLup1w==

[CarolinaDirt]

CAUTION Erb , Davenport , B Shepp , Clanton , McCreadie , Zeigler 44 to go

Caution for Moyer jumped the cushion

[CarolinaDirt]

What happened to Bloomquist? I thought he was up towards the front?

Started going backwards then pitted he is running 18th . He never likes a heavy track

[PROPOWER]

Davenport on the move

[CarolinaDirt]

Erb and JD swapping the lead caution 14 to go

Caution for Weaver Erb , JD , BShepp , McCreadie , Clanton , Junghans

[PROPOWER]

Does Superman have anything for Erb?

[CarolinaDirt]

Final Laps https://www.periscope.tv/w/aIRcVDU4MDI2NDR8NDcyMjI1ODTWVJ29eSYlYpf44LIHSdBN6Y r--i1AAUc4Fz9S9CofeQ==

[Nasty55]

Erb and JD swapping the lead caution 14 to go

Caution for Weaver Erb , JD , BShepp , McCreadie , Clanton , Junghans




Brandon Sheppard and T-Maç both are having good runs tonight....

[CarolinaDirt]

Caution 14 to go Erb , JD , McCreadie (and he is coming) , B Shepp , Junghans

Clanton flat tire

[Nasty55]

Does Superman have anything for Erb?




I say yeah he does PROPOWER I say Superman puts on his cape and flys away......

[PROPOWER]

Bloomquist going to make the top ten maybe?

[CarolinaDirt]

Shane Clanton dqd for making content with Chubb Frank under caution

[CarolinaDirt]

JD jumps the cushion leading

[Nasty55]

Shane Clanton dqd for making content with Chubb Frank under caution




Wow Woo official's aren't fukn around now are they? Did clanton and chub have an issue on track or something?

[CarolinaDirt]

4 to go what a RACE Erb on the bottom Davenport against the wall McCreadie 3rd , followed by Heckenast , Richards , B Shepp

[CarolinaDirt]

Wow Woo official's aren't fukn around now are they? Did clanton and chub have an issue on track or something?

Hit him under caution on the track lol

[Nasty55]

Hit him under caution on the track lol




Yeah I seen that part but prior to that is what I meant?

[CarolinaDirt]

Video is still rolling if you want to click the link

[B_K]

Wow Woo official's aren't fukn around now are they? Did clanton and chub have an issue on track or something?

Gotta try and make a points battle somehow. Who's second in points again.....

[CarolinaDirt]

JD wins the PDC SLIDER ON THE BOTTOM ON THE LAST LAP WHAT A RACE !!!!!!!!

[Cardirt0]

Son of a B I C T H

[CarolinaDirt]

Speechless

[PROPOWER]

SUPERMAN a bad man Congrats on the Win

[waaac77]

What happened to Bloomquist? I thought he was up towards the front?He's testing

[Slideways]

Alright JD!!!!!

[Nasty55]

He's testing



Lol well that's what he will say anyway lmao.....

[T-MAC39FAN]

There ya have it folks
superman puts his cape on tonight!!

[Nasty55]

Way to put that cape on and fly tonight Superman!!! Congrats JD, Kevin and Leroy on an impressive win tonight!!

[CarolinaDirt]

Full results

https://www.race-monitor.com/Results/Session/5490172

[CarolinaDirt]

Headed to the bank https://www.periscope.tv/w/aIRlMTU4MDI2NDR8NDcyMzYxODAquiHTEFJQP4e3fJ2scLDCoH LYXeZDie2HnpXsjLm_JA==

[racer67x]

thanks for the video CD..btw nice legs.... lol

[CarolinaDirt]

thanks for the video CD..btw nice legs.... lol

Not mine there male and hairy rofl , just sharing a video posted .

[9SWILDMAN]

This is going to be good between Davenport and Erb , them bs. Sliders Superman pulled on Erb and last lap pass Rumley better have more cars ready Erb is mad as hell

[CarolinaDirt]

This is going to be good between Davenport and Erb , them bs. Sliders Superman pulled on Erb and last lap pass Rumley better have more cars ready Erb is mad as hell

Just watched the vid on dirt on dirt maybe Erb should have gave him some room off 4 and not put him in the fence at the flagstand every time he tried to pass him . Think it goes both ways there .

[Nasty55]

Not mine there male and hairy rofl , just sharing a video posted .



You sure about that on them legs ol buddy rofllmao.... Just kidding... all in all was a good race last night...

[chupp n bloomer fan]

This is going to be good between Davenport and Erb , them bs. Sliders Superman pulled on Erb and last lap pass Rumley better have more cars ready Erb is mad as hellHaven't seen the video though sounds awesome. Davenport said in victory lane he raced him as he was raced, if so, then that's that. Either way never good to see a race come down to contact for a win, but if Erb was doing him dirty as JD said then it's why I like dirt late models, still old school.

[kidrock]

I really don't think Erb did him dirty as much as trying to protect the lead. I will have to go back and watch the race again to see if Erb Moved further up the track to protect his lead. He had been running the same line for most of the race but, just not sure if he moved up even more so Davenport couldn't get by.

[Highside Hustler25]

Haven't seen the video though sounds awesome. Davenport said in victory lane he raced him as he was raced, if so, then that's that. Either way never good to see a race come down to contact for a win, but if Erb was doing him dirty as JD said then it's why I like dirt late models, still old school.

From my vantage point, it appeared to be a lil dirty of a pass but on the last lap, for the big $$, any racer would have made the same move.
On the way home I reminisced how many times over his carreer Erb has made that same inside pass for a win. He used to be the master of that move.
As far as the Clanton deal, glad the officials made the right call. rules are rules. Then the idiot has the balz to sit in turn 4 and plead his case. Dude has to be the biggest whiner in the pits.
Bloomer? Out to lunch. Pitted for tires and still a non factor.
T Mac and B Shep were fast and at times looked like they could come to the point but Erb was the smoothest on bottom and DJ was fastest on top. Them 2 were not going to be denied. Fantastic eace as always.
And what's with the sparking and arcing comimg from under Bloomers car? That's the 3rd time I've noticed this year. At the start of the race and for 2 - 3 laps, the sparks fly from under the zero car. Looks like a arc welder when he throws it into the corner, Only lasts about 3-4 laps. Anyone know what this would be:confused:

[chupp n bloomer fan]

From my vantage point, it appeared to be a lil dirty of a pass but on the last lap, for the big $$, any racer would have made the same move.
On the way home I reminisced how many times over his carreer Erb has made that same inside pass for a win. He used to be the master of that move.
As far as the Clanton deal, glad the officials made the right call. rules are rules. Then the idiot has the balz to sit in turn 4 and plead his case. Dude has to be the biggest whiner in the pits.
Bloomer? Out to lunch. Pitted for tires and still a non factor.
T Mac and B Shep were fast and at times looked like they could come to the point but Erb was the smoothest on bottom and DJ was fastest on top. Them 2 were not going to be denied. Fantastic eace as always.
And what's with the sparking and arcing comimg from under Bloomers car? That's the 3rd time I've noticed this year. At the start of the race and for 2 - 3 laps, the sparks fly from under the zero car. Looks like a arc welder when he throws it into the corner, Only lasts about 3-4 laps. Anyone know what this would be:confused:Bloomer runs some aggressive brake pads and until they are seated etc they do that.

I know what you're saying on when the money is on the line, but no matter who it is, unless it is karma, I don't care to see races come down to that. Just me. Video should be on YouTube probably, a lot of Fairbury videos are on there. To form a better opinion for myself, instead of he said she said.

[CarolinaDirt]

I really don't think Erb did him dirty as much as trying to protect the lead. I will have to go back and watch the race again to see if Erb Moved further up the track to protect his lead. He had been running the same line for most of the race but, just not sure if he moved up even more so Davenport couldn't get by.

I agree 100 % IMO it wasn't dirty no more than blocking at Daytona in the 500 , Your racing for 26k you do what you have to do to keep them behind you .

JD said in his interview that the contact with the wall broke his right front suspension .

[Highside Hustler25]

Bloomer runs some aggressive brake pads and until they are seated etc they do that.

I know what you're saying on when the money is on the line, but no matter who it is, unless it is karma, I don't care to see races come down to that. Just me. Video should be on YouTube probably, a lot of Fairbury videos are on there. To form a better opinion for myself, instead of he said she said.

My guess was brakes as well but the sparks fly well into the apex of the corner and then some. I doubt he's on the binders that far into the corner, but you could be right.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

My guess was brakes as well but the sparks fly well into the apex of the corner and then some. I doubt he's on the binders that far into the corner, but you could be right.I'm guessing, no idea, that they are still contacting the rotar with them kinda forces until you scrub off some material. He has done that for a long time now.

[MUD MAESTRO]

I agree 100 % IMO it wasn't dirty no more than blocking at Daytona in the 500 , Your racing for 26k you do what you have to do to keep them behind you .

JD said in his interview that the contact with the wall broke his right front suspension .

Doesn't matter how much Erb is racing for, he uses the that move all the time, seen it countless times. I call it "BEING ERBED". Designed to put you in the wall. Good for JD not putting up with Erbs hack driving.

[zyoung25]

That's the brightest I've ever seen it. I'm guessing it was the brakes too. You can see in the video it lights up on both sides as he enters the corner.

What's the scoop on the Clanton deal?

[Mudweiser]

Just watched the video on DoD, awesome racing at FALS as usual... I think Erb kept running JD up a bit more towards the end, I have no problem with the final pass... Didn't see the Clanton deal, has me curious as well...

[blncfn57]

Doesn't matter how much Erb is racing for, he uses the that move all the time, seen it countless times. I call it "BEING ERBED". Designed to put you in the wall. Good for JD not putting up with Erbs hack driving.

what move is that? you mean the one he did (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) near every lap? come off the bottom and drift to the flagstand? I'm not going to defend or bash either driver for their driving, there was a $16,000 difference between 1st and 2nd...... that's more than alot of 4mers will make this year at mcdonalds.
What I seen were 2 drivers doing what they thought they had to to take home the check. I did find BSHEPPS comment kinda amusing tho.

[9SWILDMAN]

Great racing all around Erb and Davenport put a hell of show on for fans tight racing on short track and yes I am huge Erb fan

[9SWILDMAN]

I hope it brings a friendly rivalry on Lucas tour though especially Erb is getting black diamond chassis figured out

[pierceFAN]

bobby said erb is one of the hardest drivers to get by

[9SWILDMAN]

bobby said erb is one of the hardest drivers to get by
True there is something there though Erb races you way you race him not talking about last night either

[blncfn57]

Mud as he said seen Erb do this many times. Well you would think by now he seen it in most any driver... Its called holding your line and hitting your marks. Mybe someone needs to explain racing to him! Even the anouncers where commenting on how smoothly he was driving, consistently running the same grove!

JD knew this and did what he had to do to win. If JD bitshed later,maybe he needs to be filled in on it too...

I agree. Dennis ran the same line pretty much the whole race with the exception of when he was in traffic. I understand how it would be frustrating for someone trying to pass up top, but it's Dennis' job to drive his car and he was smooth and straight the whole race. That being said, it was JD's job to drive his car to the best finish he could and he did. It was fun to watch, but you knew one of them was going to be upset at the checkers. What more could you ask for?

[9SWILDMAN]

I agree. Dennis ran the same line pretty much the whole race with the exception of when he was in traffic. I understand how it would be frustrating for someone trying to pass up top, but it's Dennis' job to drive his car and he was smooth and straight the whole race. That being said, it was JD's job to drive his car to the best finish he could and he did. It was fun to watch, but you knew one of them was going to be upset at the checkers. What more could you ask for? Erb and other drivers frustrated perhaps Davenport winning everything right now

[9SWILDMAN]

If Dennis is pissed, you know there is good reason.
Yes sir usually Dennis won't talk unless he is super pissed like I said something happened earlier in race I know Davenport was slide jobs all night on Erb from 56 on

[cgrace]

erb will take ur line or squeeze ya in the wall in a nyc minute. thats why the erbed phrase in centrall . he used to push people out of way like 10 years ago to pass em

[Highside Hustler25]

Just watched the video on DoD, awesome racing at FALS as usual... I think Erb kept running JD up a bit more towards the end, I have no problem with the final pass... Didn't see the Clanton deal, has me curious as well...

On the Clanton deal, for some reason, he started to fade some. Was running top five and then lost 3 or 4 spots. Chub got into Clantons left rear and cut his tire. Clanton went to infield, changed tire, returned to track and proceded to rough up Chub twice. Then stopped in turn 4 and cried to the official to no avail. Official sent him pitside. Clanton went to his hauler and that was it. Stopped at Chubs pit after the race figuring there might be a donnybrook but nothing happened when I was there.

[25drtrkr]

If Dennis is pissed, you know there is good reason.

Yep! Typical CHUMP move from Davenport!

[blncfn57]

Yep! Typical CHUMP move from Davenport!

Lol, I didn't see it as a dirty move really..... I've definitely seen way worse for less gain. I did find it amusing when BSHEPP said "I figured Jonathon was going to do something crazy" or something real close to that.

Great race between Davenport and Erb IMO. I always enjoy watching Dennis run up front, but knew that Davenport was going to be tough.

[Kwd1253]

fals never a let down, always good racing to the end. don't know how people getting up set how jd won. erb is known to pull that move so times clear and some times not so pretty. I watched that race 3 times so far on dod this morning. to me erb was to married to that line, specially at the final lap one turn 3 and 4. on the back stretch erd had see jd under as they was going into turn 3. erb should took the high side, knowing jd would try slide him. erb could easily crossed under jd, because every time jd try throw a slider he would go to deep and have get one the brakes not hit the wall. seen that 2 or 3 times when jd tried do a slider. but jd played his hand right, erb was so married to that line not tempting to move from that line. jd just used erb to muscle his way to the checker. erb got erbed, for 26k! you (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) right if I was jd going into the final turn I would do the same for that money. but this fals that place always have the fans and drivers on their toes on the last lap. never been to fals think Im going have to go there next yr for this event.

[25drtrkr]

Lol, I didn't see it as a dirty move really..... I've definitely seen way worse for less gain. I did find it amusing when BSHEPP said "I figured Jonathon was going to do something crazy" or something real close to that.

Great race between Davenport and Erb IMO. I always enjoy watching Dennis run up front, but knew that Davenport was going to be tough.

Erb got Josh'ed and Bobbie'd at the same time! It was dirty, JD admitted it. He used him up!

SuperCHUMP has got a payback comin!

[kidrock]

erb will take ur line or squeeze ya in the wall in a nyc minute. thats why the erbed phrase in centrall . he used to push people out of way like 10 years ago to pass em

One thing about it you never heard Dennis cry about it. He knows sometimes chit like this is going to happen. He's done the very same thing. He knows now how he and Devenport are going to race one another.

[blncfn57]

Erb got Josh'ed and Bobbie'd at the same time! It was dirty, JD admitted it. He used him up!

SuperCHUMP has got a payback comin!

OK, so can we just agree it could have been much worse?

[25drtrkr]

OK, so can we just agree it could have been much worse?

How? It cost Erb the win and the big check!

[blncfn57]

How? It cost Erb the win and the big check!

it cost him $16,000 for sure, but he could been in the fence and got tow money.....

[Kwd1253]

One thing about it you never heard Dennis cry about it. He knows sometimes chit like this is going to happen. He's done the very same thing. He knows now how he and Devenport are going to race one another.lol sound like he did a lil to me on the post interview. I think he could race me a Lil bit there. I don't know where erb was but jd been racing him for last 35 laps lol

[25drtrkr]

it cost him $16,000 for sure, but he could been in the fence and got tow money.....

True......I just expect better from the top tier drivers. Rubbins one thing, door slammin is another!

And another thing......if that would have been Josh or Bobby, the haters would be out in full force!

[kidrock]

lol sound like he did a lil to me on the post interview. I think he could race me a Lil bit there. I don't know where erb was but jd been racing him for last 35 laps lol


And your going to call that crying!!! I hardly call that crying. He could have raced me a lil bit there. How about something like he just door slammed me, he just ran over flat azz ran over me. He needs to learn how to drive. If I drove like that I would park it.

[Kwd1253]

True......I just expect better from the top tier drivers. Rubbins one thing, door slammin is another!And another thing......if that would have been Josh or Bobby, the haters would be out in full force!well I'm not Bobby hater but not fan Josh but I wouldnt knock josh if it was on the final lap and turn. but think if that was Bobby, erb was racing him. erb would be getting towed of the track haha. but all jokes a side. I would rather a clean finish but I don't not knock drivers for 3 wheeling of car for the fish one the last turn. long as the other car gets 2nd. now if erb dropped back below 2nd or wrecked, I would have every big different feeling towards it.

[blncfn57]

True......I just expect better from the top tier drivers. Rubbins one thing, door slammin is another!

And another thing......if that would have been Josh or Bobby, the haters would be out in full force!

No doubt there! Some drivers are azzholes no matter what they do, according to 4m anyway!!

[Kwd1253]

And your going to call that crying!!! I hardly call that crying. He could have raced me a lil bit there. How about something like he just door slammed me, he just ran over flat azz ran over me. He needs to learn how to drive. If I drove like that I would park it.you right kid, erb was not crying really he rarely does unless he really pissed off. so, why people crying when he was not ;)

[Highside Hustler25]

I've said it once and I'll say it again.
When you have that bright orange spoiler on the back, and are running for points, you don't want to make too many enemies. Especially one that runs the same tour as yourself. Paybacks can sometimes be a beeatch.

[kidrock]

you right kid, erb was not crying really he rarely does unless he really pissed off. so, why people crying when he was not ;)


Not sure why they are but you know as well as I do Erb was thinking heck I would have done the same thing oh wait I have done the same thing.

What's not to like about a guy who can dish it out but, yet take it as well. That's what I have always said about the Pierce team. They need to learn how to except it when it happens them.

[kidrock]

I've said it once and I'll say it again.
When you have that bright orange spoiler on the back, and are running for points, you don't want to make too many enemies. Especially one that runs the same tour as yourself. Paybacks can sometimes be a beeatch.

You know it lol!!!!

[Kwd1253]

Not sure why they are but you know as well as I do Erb was thinking heck I would have done the same thing oh wait I have done the same thing. What's not to like about a guy who can dish it out but, yet take it as well. That's what I have always said about the Pierce team. They need to learn how to except it when it happens them.very true kid, that why I like erb. he knows how to take it, lot drivers need a page out his book on that. not cry about when some does it to you and you do it to them. but that why erb is a vet and still a top driver in the nation.

[Kwd1253]

well HH, it could make the points racing more interesting if he does lol.

[25drtrkr]

I've said it once and I'll say it again.
When you have that bright orange spoiler on the back, and are running for points, you don't want to make too many enemies. Especially one that runs the same tour as yourself. Paybacks can sometimes be a beeatch.

You betcha!....the way Erbs been running, those two will meet AGAIN! Looks like Erb has taken lessons from Travolta, with the way hes been "dancing" in that Disco car!.....sorry, had too!

[427c.i.]

Two cars racing hard for $26,000 with nothing more than little wrinkled sheet metal between the two. That was one helluva finish! I'd rather see that than a bunch cars going in a circle afraid to go for it.

[slmcrewchief99]

I have just watched the video. Several times from about lap 80 to the finish. It makes me no difference who won or didn't win, but..... I will call it as I see it on video as it may have been a little different to be there watching. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure. Erb had a great car the entire race. He had a line that was working around the bottom and in the center. JD was good on the cushion. Erb didn't need to bang the cushion to be fast. He led half the race on the bottom. JD pulled those sliders and Erb drove back under him and never touched him. I don't see where Erb did anything dirty to JD for his "eye for and eye" comment. The way I see it JD used him up on the last lap. He admitted it anyway. Was it right or wrong? I am sorry but I say it was WRONG.... If you are faster than the car in front of you, you don't have to door slam them to get by. Erb was the leader for a reason. He had the best car. If JD was better then pass him clean.
Think about it like this. Every person on here has a driver that that despise and love to see him fail. Then each of you have their favorite driver. Take those 2 and put them in that same situation. Last few laps of the PDC and your favorite driver has the best car, led the most laps, and kept his car out of trouble. Then then that driver you hate to even be at the track with gets a chance at a 3 lap dash to the finish. He pulls a couple of sliders to no avail then does a chump move on the last lap and plain door slams your favorite driver and wins the race. What will you say to that? Will it be, oh well, my driver deserved that. Why crap no. You would be on here raising a thousand dollars worth of hell if that had happened. Why can't it just be called for what it was. He ran over Erb on the last lap and won the race, only because he ran him over, not because he was faster or had the best car. It's just as simple as that. And yes I am calling it a dirty move. Just think, 20 yrs from now when he shows that trophy to his grand kid, JD can say, here is my PDC trophy for 2015. I smooth ran over Erb with a massive door slam that he didn't deserve, all because Erb was faster than me and it was the only way I could pass him. Wonder how well that will go.....

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I have just watched the video. Several times from about lap 80 to the finish. It makes me no difference who won or didn't win, but..... I will call it as I see it on video as it may have been a little different to be there watching. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure. Erb had a great car the entire race. He had a line that was working around the bottom and in the center. JD was good on the cushion. Erb didn't need to bang the cushion to be fast. He led half the race on the bottom. JD pulled those sliders and Erb drove back under him and never touched him. I don't see where Erb did anything dirty to JD for his "eye for and eye" comment. The way I see it JD used him up on the last lap. He admitted it anyway. Was it right or wrong? I am sorry but I say it was WRONG.... If you are faster than the car in front of you, you don't have to door slam them to get by. Erb was the leader for a reason. He had the best car. If JD was better then pass him clean.
Think about it like this. Every person on here has a driver that that despise and love to see him fail. Then each of you have their favorite driver. Take those 2 and put them in that same situation. Last few laps of the PDC and your favorite driver has the best car, led the most laps, and kept his car out of trouble. Then then that driver you hate to even be at the track with gets a chance at a 3 lap dash to the finish. He pulls a couple of sliders to no avail then does a chump move on the last lap and plain door slams your favorite driver and wins the race. What will you say to that? Will it be, oh well, my driver deserved that. Why crap no. You would be on here raising a thousand dollars worth of hell if that had happened. Why can't it just be called for what it was. He ran over Erb on the last lap and won the race, only because he ran him over, not because he was faster or had the best car. It's just as simple as that. And yes I am calling it a dirty move. Just think, 20 yrs from now when he shows that trophy to his grand kid, JD can say, here is my PDC trophy for 2015. I smooth ran over Erb with a massive door slam that he didn't deserve, all because Erb was faster than me and it was the only way I could pass him. Wonder how well that will go.....Where's the video? DoD?

My subscription is about up to the DLM mag and I may not renew, and get DoD instead.

[pierceFAN]

i think davenport was questioning erb squeezing him into the frontstretch wall...hard to see from the camera veiw we had...but at one point near the end you see sparks from the rear of davenports car where he was into the frontstretch wall and erb was right there...as i said you cant see from the camera angle if erb pinched him or not

[kipling]

he was pinching him on the backstretch as well.

[Kwd1253]

well I don't think erb did pierce hard tell from dod video. I see where jd got into the wall from the sparks coming off of it. but if look at jd driver side he has zero marks only his car. http://dirtondirt.com/photoGallery.php?id=5159 pics of his car at the checker. I think erb was giving just enough room to queeze by him not rub each other when that happen.

[MILLER7FAN]

Where's the video? DoD? My subscription is about up to the DLM mag and I may not renew, and get DoD instead. DoD=money well spent

[cutman]

I have just watched the video. Several times from about lap 80 to the finish. It makes me no difference who won or didn't win, but..... I will call it as I see it on video as it may have been a little different to be there watching. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure. Erb had a great car the entire race. He had a line that was working around the bottom and in the center. JD was good on the cushion. Erb didn't need to bang the cushion to be fast. He led half the race on the bottom. JD pulled those sliders and Erb drove back under him and never touched him. I don't see where Erb did anything dirty to JD for his "eye for and eye" comment. The way I see it JD used him up on the last lap. He admitted it anyway. Was it right or wrong? I am sorry but I say it was WRONG.... If you are faster than the car in front of you, you don't have to door slam them to get by. Erb was the leader for a reason. He had the best car. If JD was better then pass him clean.
Think about it like this. Every person on here has a driver that that despise and love to see him fail. Then each of you have their favorite driver. Take those 2 and put them in that same situation. Last few laps of the PDC and your favorite driver has the best car, led the most laps, and kept his car out of trouble. Then then that driver you hate to even be at the track with gets a chance at a 3 lap dash to the finish. He pulls a couple of sliders to no avail then does a chump move on the last lap and plain door slams your favorite driver and wins the race. What will you say to that? Will it be, oh well, my driver deserved that. Why crap no. You would be on here raising a thousand dollars worth of hell if that had happened. Why can't it just be called for what it was. He ran over Erb on the last lap and won the race, only because he ran him over, not because he was faster or had the best car. It's just as simple as that. And yes I am calling it a dirty move. Just think, 20 yrs from now when he shows that trophy to his grand kid, JD can say, here is my PDC trophy for 2015. I smooth ran over Erb with a massive door slam that he didn't deserve, all because Erb was faster than me and it was the only way I could pass him. Wonder how well that will go.....

Boo hoo. Erb put him in the wall and JD got him back. I'm sure they'll race each other a little harder now in the future, zero wrong with the pass

[9SWILDMAN]

I've said it once and I'll say it again.
When you have that bright orange spoiler on the back, and are running for points, you don't want to make too many enemies. Especially one that runs the same tour as yourself. Paybacks can sometimes be a beeatch.yep Rumley better have longhorn on order cause let's say Erb races u the u race him and Davenport learned from O'Neal on bodyslam in corners

[kidrock]

When someone is driving that line on the track like Erb was, the guy behind him has 2 options 1. Wait for the guy in front of you make a mistake. Or 2. Move him or drive through him and JD chose the 2nd option.

[Mcklovin85..]

Here's the deal for me, erb gave JD the outside lane the entire night until the last lap erb moved up a half a lane to kill JD's momentum on the high side. Erb new what he did and every good driver would have done the same thing and every good driver would have done what JD did to go for the win. I was sitting on the back straight and seen it all happen. In hindsight, erb probably could have held his lane be and hoped JD jumped the cushion in 3/4 as it happened quite a bit throughout the night.. But all in all there is no one to blame for what they did as it was good hard racing..

[skids]

I have just watched the video. Several times from about lap 80 to the finish. It makes me no difference who won or didn't win, but..... I will call it as I see it on video as it may have been a little different to be there watching. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure. Erb had a great car the entire race. He had a line that was working around the bottom and in the center. JD was good on the cushion. Erb didn't need to bang the cushion to be fast. He led half the race on the bottom. JD pulled those sliders and Erb drove back under him and never touched him. I don't see where Erb did anything dirty to JD for his "eye for and eye" comment. The way I see it JD used him up on the last lap. He admitted it anyway. Was it right or wrong? I am sorry but I say it was WRONG.... If you are faster than the car in front of you, you don't have to door slam them to get by. Erb was the leader for a reason. He had the best car. If JD was better then pass him clean.
Think about it like this. Every person on here has a driver that that despise and love to see him fail. Then each of you have their favorite driver. Take those 2 and put them in that same situation. Last few laps of the PDC and your favorite driver has the best car, led the most laps, and kept his car out of trouble. Then then that driver you hate to even be at the track with gets a chance at a 3 lap dash to the finish. He pulls a couple of sliders to no avail then does a chump move on the last lap and plain door slams your favorite driver and wins the race. What will you say to that? Will it be, oh well, my driver deserved that. Why crap no. You would be on here raising a thousand dollars worth of hell if that had happened. Why can't it just be called for what it was. He ran over Erb on the last lap and won the race, only because he ran him over, not because he was faster or had the best car. It's just as simple as that. And yes I am calling it a dirty move. Just think, 20 yrs from now when he shows that trophy to his grand kid, JD can say, here is my PDC trophy for 2015. I smooth ran over Erb with a massive door slam that he didn't deserve, all because Erb was faster than me and it was the only way I could pass him. Wonder how well that will go.....

All about perspective.
Could say the same about Erb. If he was the fastest car, why the need to pinch off JD?

Don't see how Erb was the fastest car when JD ran him down and passed him (clean) at least 3 times before the last lap.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

Erb would have pulled the same last lap move if the positions were swapped. No doubt in my mind.

Not sure how you can say you didn't see where Erb ran JD into the wall. You can't tell me he didn't know he was there. So why does the line "he coulda raced me more" not apply to what Erb did to JD there? Again..... Perspective.

Great race!

[MILLER7FAN]

All about perspective. Could say the same about Erb. If he was the fastest car, why the need to pinch off JD? Don't see how Erb was the fastest car when JD ran him down and passed him (clean) at least 3 times before the last lap. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Erb would have pulled the same last lap move if the positions were swapped. No doubt in my mind. Not sure how you can say you didn't see where Erb ran JD into the wall. You can't tell me he didn't know he was there. So why does the line "he coulda raced me more" not apply to what Erb did to JD there? Again..... Perspective. Great race! Good accurate post after 10 pages. For me it falls under "rubbin's racin" at fals that's expected, right?

[kidrock]

I wasn't there but, from the video in my opinion ERB did not run Davenport into the wall. Davenport but, himself into the wall by trying to make a pass when there wasn't enough room to do so. Davenport had to expect Erb to make his car wider by moving up half groove then what he had been running. Erb ran that line most of the race. He would come off the corner and drift up to the wall. That's a smart racer in my opinion.

[TMaCiLLiNi39]

I wasn't there but, from the video in my opinion ERB did not run Davenport into the wall. Davenport but, himself into the wall by trying to make a pass when there wasn't enough room to do so. Davenport had to expect Erb to make his car wider by moving up half groove then what he had been running. Erb ran that line most of the race. He would come off the corner and drift up to the wall. That's a smart racer in my opinion.

And you're an idiot.... I was there and Erb pinched him no less than 3 times

[Kwd1253]

well I keep watching the video. erb did squeezed jd, I didn't notice earlier. but you can see erb damaged rear quarter on the next lap. I figured jd would have some kind of marking on the driver side from it but didn't see none one his car. I think erb gets way to married to the same line, I think he would of won if he went high on the last turn. he could easily done cross over on jd if he throw a slider. but he was trying to block and close the door one the low side. but jd said f that and did what he had to lol.

[scooter21]

I could care less which one of them won, but I guarantee that if JD had done that to one of the weekly guys that race #FALS, they would have tore the house down.

[blncfn57]

I could care less which one of them won, but I guarantee that if JD had done that to one of the weekly guys that race #FALS, they would have tore the house down.

exactly!!!

[lmfan71]

JD races for a living, and if someone says they would have not pulled the same move they're lying, they're just out having fun, not racing. It was for 16 thousand dollar difference. It's racing!

[drano]

That's JDs style been watching him do it for years, but he gets to cash the check.

[25drtrkr]

I have just watched the video. Several times from about lap 80 to the finish. It makes me no difference who won or didn't win, but..... I will call it as I see it on video as it may have been a little different to be there watching. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure. Erb had a great car the entire race. He had a line that was working around the bottom and in the center. JD was good on the cushion. Erb didn't need to bang the cushion to be fast. He led half the race on the bottom. JD pulled those sliders and Erb drove back under him and never touched him. I don't see where Erb did anything dirty to JD for his "eye for and eye" comment. The way I see it JD used him up on the last lap. He admitted it anyway. Was it right or wrong? I am sorry but I say it was WRONG.... If you are faster than the car in front of you, you don't have to door slam them to get by. Erb was the leader for a reason. He had the best car. If JD was better then pass him clean.
Think about it like this. Every person on here has a driver that that despise and love to see him fail. Then each of you have their favorite driver. Take those 2 and put them in that same situation. Last few laps of the PDC and your favorite driver has the best car, led the most laps, and kept his car out of trouble. Then then that driver you hate to even be at the track with gets a chance at a 3 lap dash to the finish. He pulls a couple of sliders to no avail then does a chump move on the last lap and plain door slams your favorite driver and wins the race. What will you say to that? Will it be, oh well, my driver deserved that. Why crap no. You would be on here raising a thousand dollars worth of hell if that had happened. Why can't it just be called for what it was. He ran over Erb on the last lap and won the race, only because he ran him over, not because he was faster or had the best car. It's just as simple as that. And yes I am calling it a dirty move. Just think, 20 yrs from now when he shows that trophy to his grand kid, JD can say, here is my PDC trophy for 2015. I smooth ran over Erb with a massive door slam that he didn't deserve, all because Erb was faster than me and it was the only way I could pass him. Wonder how well that will go.....
Good post.....coming from someone who works on these cars, too, unlike the bunch of wannabe's on here!

You don't see drivers like Bloomer, Owens, and EPJ drive like that for a win!.....but then again they are considered GREAT drivers, not like SuperCHUMP! I betcha Erb is fixin to be his kryptonite!

[kidrock]

And you're an idiot.... I was there and Erb pinched him no less than 3 times


In your opinion Erb pinched Davenport but, others have an opinion as well and I didn't see it the same as you and it doesn't make either one of right or wrong, and that's a fact.

[kidrock]

Yeah Kid you idiot! Lmao, Ernie was there and that some how makes him a whole bunch more knowledgeable then you!!!!! Now lay down!!!!!! Lmao

Ernie don't let these know it all get to ya, we have all known for years how smart you are... :D

I thought better of you then to resort to name calling lmao!!!!

[25drtrkr]

In your opinion Erb pinched Davenport but, others have an opinion as well and I didn't see it the same as you and it doesn't make either one of right or wrong, and that's a fact.

Kid, I guess they don't understand the difference between pinching and slamming!.....it doesn't take a whole lot of talent or class to know that 8 tires work better than 4!

[CarolinaDirt]

Kid, I guess they don't understand the difference between pinching and slamming!.....it doesn't take a whole lot of talent or class to know that 8 tires work better than 4!

Erb had a choice he goes to the top no contact and could have won JD crossed him over before the corner but he chose to fight for the same real estate .

If I was JD I would have done the same thing call it pinched , squeezed whatever you want had JD went to the top like he had been he knew he would have put him in the wall coming to the checkers . He cleared him several times and Erb didn't give him room .

If I had been Erb going for 26k I would have too . Just sayin .

We get you don't like Davenport but I'm gonna ask you this where was the outrage when Pierce took McDowell out in 2013 . Or McCreadie coming up the track and hitting Owens on the last lap in 2014 ?

[kidrock]

Hey I'm so sorry I was so wrong about this whole deal and now after watching it for the fourth time I can tell where I made the mistake. Is that better? Lmao

All I'm trying to say is if I'm behind Erb knowing he has been running that line most of the race and Drifting up towards the wall after coming out of turn 2 and 4 then I might not want to try and squeeze by because we might wreck each other. Now if Davenport would have been beside him coming out of the turn and Erb could see him and then ran him into the wall that would be a different story but, hey this is just my opinion and no one has to agree with me but, that doesn't make either one of us right or wrong because it's just our opinions.

[kidrock]

Well I know Ernie is pwitty smart so I thought I would try to impress the other 4m'ers by doing it too!!

How'd I do??? :) Lmao!!!!!!!

You did us all proud lmao

[25drtrkr]

Erb had a choice he goes to the top no contact and could have won JD crossed him over before the corner but he chose to fight for the same real estate .

If I was JD I would have done the same thing call it pinched , squeezed whatever you want had JD went to the top like he had been he knew he would have put him in the wall coming to the checkers . He cleared him several times and Erb didn't give him room .

If I had been Erb going for 26k I would have too . Just sayin .

We get you don't like Davenport but I'm gonna ask you this where was the outrage when Pierce took McDowell out in 2013 . Or McCreadie coming up the track and hitting Owens on the last lap in 2014 ?
I don't agree with no driver door slamming another driver to win, rubbins one thing, slammins another. The three greatest drivers in the sport Bloomer, Owens, EPJ don't drive like that! It takes ZERO talent to win a race like that!

[kidrock]

Thanks kid, I knew I could count on you sir!! ;)

Keep up the good work and you won't hear no complaints from the peanut gallery lol

[CarolinaDirt]

I don't agree with no driver door slamming another driver to win, rubbins one thing, slammins another. The three greatest drivers in the sport Bloomer, Owens, EPJ don't drive like that! It takes ZERO talent to win a race like that!

I disagree man I have watched Bloomquist fight his way out of North Georgia in a Hav-A-Tampa race in the 90s after taking out Stan Massey and having his car ran into by Mark Miner Massey's teammate at the time and a brawl on the front stretch .

To say they dont hit anyone is assanine its racing not holding hands .

I have seen Owens hit Bloomer for a win and I'm a Jimmy O fan .

As far as 0 talent you dont win over 200k in a season including the record for consecutive Lucas victories with 0 talent .

[drano]

With JD now running on more of a national level you will see the second coming of bend your steel.

[25drtrkr]

I disagree man I have watched Bloomquist fight his way out of North Georgia in a Hav-A-Tampa race in the 90s after taking out Stan Massey and having his car ran into by Mark Miner Massey's teammate at the time and a brawl on the front stretch .

To say they dont hit anyone is assanine its racing not holding hands .

I have seen Owens hit Bloomer for a win and I'm a Jimmy O fan .

As far as 0 talent you dont win over 200k in a season including the record for consecutive Lucas victories with 0 talent .

Please re-read my post, you obviously didn't get it!

[kidrock]

Kid, I guess they don't understand the difference between pinching and slamming!.....it doesn't take a whole lot of talent or class to know that 8 tires work better than 4!

I guess not.

[CasualDirtFan]

I have been slow to wade in here, mainly because I don't often enough to have a solid/respected opinion, I am an overly biased Erb fan and the conversations get a bit childlike. I thought both drivers did what they needed to do to win a race. I do think JD was a bit over the top in the last corner, but who wouldn't be? I think the rub (pardon the pun) for me was the attitude when he got out of the car. I don't think Erb tried to put him in the wall - because if he did JD would have been in the wall (or both of them would have been). That's a kid that has talent but never driven anything of he owned of his own. After having some time to think about it, JD was a still an (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) in the second interview. He definitely lacks a bit of class, but he does have a big check and trophy.

And payback on the Lucas Tour would eat that $16K away pretty quick. But I think Erb's bigger than that. He won't go out of his way to dump him but he will sure make sure he squeezes him as much as possible next time.

[25drtrkr]

With JD now running on more of a national level you will see the second coming of bend your steel.

So what shall we call him.....Jonathan wreck-your-parts Davenport?

[cutman]

man, Illinois produces some big tears 😢

[HoosierDirtFan]

So what shall we call him.....Jonathan wreck-your-parts Davenport?

AS a joke but I say we call him Jonathan "Wreckers-or-Checkers" Davenport.

[drano]

What about Jonathan '' Door-Slam-u-Davenport''

[mud duck]

Guys must be getting tired of JD winning because that wasn't a bad pass!! He clearly made a good slider on him going into three with two to go and Erb got him coming off four cause he drifted to high. Next lap around Erb knew he had to block him and put it up against the wall. JD had to take the bottom and was clearly up beside him going into one. Yes, there was some contact but it wasn't that bad. What did you expect JD do just follow Erb around the last lap and hand him the sentimental win??

[FALS]

The line Erb was running was dirtier then JD's elbow in turn 4. Superman > Erb enough said.

[Highside Hustler25]

Isn't it great when we have a controversial finish to a race.:)

Oh, and 4 of you guys...are idiots:Dand Johnny is a real tool !

[FALS]

Bloomer looked strong too hahaha, sure he was just testing.

[25drtrkr]

What about Jonathan '' Door-Slam-u-Davenport''

How bout...Jonathan Steer-my-car-into-yours Davenport.....yes pun intended!

[JinxNC]

Here's the deal for me, erb gave JD the outside lane the entire night until the last lap erb moved up a half a lane to kill JD's momentum on the high side. Erb new what he did and every good driver would have done the same thing and every good driver would have done what JD did to go for the win. I was sitting on the back straight and seen it all happen. In hindsight, erb probably could have held his lane be and hoped JD jumped the cushion in 3/4 as it happened quite a bit throughout the night.. But all in all there is no one to blame for what they did as it was good hard racing..

Thank God! Someone with a fully functioning brain.

It was an AMAZING show at FALS, as is at MOST of the Mid-West bull-rings. With the trophy and check on the line, EVERY driver should do WHATEVER it takes to WIN. If not..... WTH are you there for????

[HoosierDirtFan]

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[Highside Hustler25]

Thank God! Someone with a fully functioning brain.

It was an AMAZING show at FALS, as is at MOST of the Mid-West bull-rings. With the trophy and check on the line, EVERY driver should do WHATEVER it takes to WIN. If not..... WTH are you there for????

whats better yet is that the guy who got door slammed/roughed up, never really b1tched one bit. His exact words were...... "I think we had the best race car here tonight because no one could run with us once it stayed green. He just got lucky there on that last caution and made a banzai move."

And I think we can all agree with Dennis, it was a banzai move for sure.

[CarolinaDirt]

If you 4mer's folks who are on Facebook want to see the 235 pictures I took go to this Group page below
Dirt Late Models, Modifieds, Sprints, Midgets, & Dirt Stock pictures
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The album is pinned at the top of the group page.

Thanks for the pictures great racetrack .

[mud duck]

Door slam?? How about a door brushing?

[zyoung25]

I don't agree with no driver door slamming another driver to win, rubbins one thing, slammins another. The three greatest drivers in the sport Bloomer, Owens, EPJ don't drive like that! It takes ZERO talent to win a race like that!

Go back and watch the lucas race from prp earlier in the month and see if Erb didn't slam Pearson at the end. Karma maybe?

I was at prp, and didn't really see anything wrong with what Dennis done. Just hard racing.

[HoosierDirtFan]

Thanks for the pictures great racetrack .

No problem. Share the album with your Facebook friend.

[00Hdmn]

Guys must be getting tired of JD winning because that wasn't a bad pass!! He clearly made a good slider on him going into three with two to go and Erb got him coming off four cause he drifted to high. Next lap around Erb knew he had to block him and put it up against the wall. JD had to take the bottom and was clearly up beside him going into one. Yes, there was some contact but it wasn't that bad. What did you expect JD do just follow Erb around the last lap and hand him the sentimental win??

I read this whole thing and this is the only post that produced any truth.

[plunks7]

If your thinking you shouldn't be expecting to get brushed or door slammed (as some refer to) on dirt. Than maybe some of you should just attend something different. The drivers all know. Maybe attend a PBA show. They hand out crying towels when you enter to watch. LOL and LOL some more. I couldn't help myself. :)

[Kwd1253]

So what shall we call him.....Jonathan wreck-your-parts Davenport? jonathan "wreck-it ralph" davenport, but it's OK he has kevin "fix-it felix" rumley on his team. he can dive bomb any one, like at the dream last year. I thought it was so funny the announcers saying superman is coming, he the fastest on the track, and there no Kryptonite on the track to stop him. well there was, it was O'Neil lmao. got say wreck-it Ralph knows how to pull some bone head moves. still to this day don't get why he try split O'Neil, when O'Neil was running button and the middle and jd was running high side lol... jd must have some very unique tubing, I don't see how his car takes all that beating like it does at times.

[skids]

Still waiting for someone to answer my question.
If Erb was the fastest car.....why the need to "get wide" and change his line to pinch off JD???
Why not "race him more" like Erb said himself?

[racingfool32]

Still waiting for someone to answer my question.
If Erb was the fastest car.....why the need to "get wide" and change his line to pinch off JD???
Why not "race him more" like Erb said himself?

Don't think the BUTTHURT Davenport haters will answer that question.

[Kwd1253]

Still waiting for someone to answer my question.If Erb was the fastest car.....why the need to "get wide" and change his line to pinch off JD???Why not "race him more" like Erb said himself?I can tell you but you have to embrace all this tho. here it is, this what WoO going tell you it was optical illusion it never happen. then they will say false has hydraulic straight away walls that move in as race goes on. but in reality its a cover up, teenager aliens was playing with the tractor beam again. they had control over erb and jd and for sh@t and giggles they made erb move up and block jd then made jd run over erb. but before that they made Shane ram chub too. but the aliens knew 4m would blow in rage over this so they can laugh at 4m. you can even ask Giorgio Tsoukalos off of ancient aliens he tell you it's government cover up and WoO works for them. true story bro

[Kwd1253]

I think most people would get that over board unimaginable complex logic of that before this. hard unfathomable logic, racer A moved up to block racer B couldnt get around racer A, so racer A could win. but racer B wanted the win just as bad and was just as fast or Lil faster as racer A. so racer B used racer A as the cushion to take the win.... yeeeep that make no since, had be the aliens

[Kwd1253]

Don't think the BUTTHURT Davenport haters will answer that question.wouldn't your butthurt to if aliens put a satellite up your butt and flames shoot out every time you fart. I feel bad for them myself, they going through that pain and grieving.

[kidrock]

Still waiting for someone to answer my question.
If Erb was the fastest car.....why the need to "get wide" and change his line to pinch off JD???
Why not "race him more" like Erb said himself?

There was no doubt about it when Davenport would hit his marks and not jump the cushion he was the faster then Erb.

[00Hdmn]

jonathan "wreck-it ralph" davenport, but it's OK he has kevin "fix-it felix" rumley on his team. he can dive bomb any one, like at the dream last year. I thought it was so funny the announcers saying superman is coming, he the fastest on the track, and there no Kryptonite on the track to stop him. well there was, it was O'Neil lmao. got say wreck-it Ralph knows how to pull some bone head moves. still to this day don't get why he try split O'Neil, when O'Neil was running button and the middle and jd was running high side lol... jd must have some very unique tubing, I don't see how his car takes all that beating like it does at times.

If you were at Eldora for this race and know just a little about racing then you would be able to answer your question of why JD did what he did. Oneal was running the same line lap after lap and he changed just as JD was entering. I happened right in front of me and there was nothing that he could have really done.

[T-MAC39FAN]

If ya dont want to get passed then dont let superman catch ya!!!

[lmfan71]

JD races for a living, and if someone says they would have not pulled the same move they're lying, they're just out having fun, not racing. It was for 16 thousand dollar difference. It's racing!

[drano]

A lot of them race for a living maybe they should put that in the rule book or at the drivers meeting if you race for a living you can run over anyone that is between you and the checkers that makes perfect logic.

[CIRF]

A lot of them race for a living maybe they should put that in the rule book or at the drivers meeting if you race for a living you can run over anyone that is between you and the checkers that makes perfect logic.

Very, very good point drano. One of the very few posts that make a valid point in 12 pages of posts.

Take a bow, drano!!

[W2Racing09]

I think it was fine, racing for the win. The only thing that bothers me is that some of the same people cheering for Davenport's door slam were the ones on here dragging Richards over the coals for the SAME THING.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[Okfine]

I think it was fine, racing for the win. The only thing that bothers me is that some of the same people cheering for Davenport's door slam were the ones on here dragging Richards over the coals for the SAME THING.

Thanks,
Jeff.

Davenports " BAGGAGE" is a lot lighter than is Richards baggage is probably why that is Jeff.........

Imo

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I disagree man I have watched Bloomquist fight his way out of North Georgia in a Hav-A-Tampa race in the 90s after taking out Stan Massey and having his car ran into by Mark Miner Massey's teammate at the time and a brawl on the front stretch .

To say they dont hit anyone is assanine its racing not holding hands .

I have seen Owens hit Bloomer for a win and I'm a Jimmy O fan .

As far as 0 talent you dont win over 200k in a season including the record for consecutive Lucas victories with 0 talent .All the races he has been in and you went that far back for an example? That is saying something about his "dirty" driving. Another example is the Dream with Frye where I think he misjudged where Frye was going to go. This was when I was a big Frye fan and not a Bloomer fan. Maybe the Massey one was dirty, but to have to go back that far is saying something. Same can be said for Moyer, Owens, Birky when he raced, they just ran clean is all.

Haven't seen video of Fairbury yet so I won't say one way or the other. Not trying to start nothing either man, enough of that in this thread already. Just saying, to have to go back that far says something.

[pierceFAN]

guys this is the same ol arguement (insert drivers names here).....this is dirt racing...there is gonna be a little bangin and bumpin...its part of it...remember the cars of old? they were banged up all to he!!...those guys leaned on each other and drove it in deep...only difference is there wasnt the internet thats full of online racers that know everything about everything...not every little wrinkled fender has to be full of drama

[W2Racing09]

Davenports " BAGGAGE" is a lot lighter than is Richards baggage is probably why that is Jeff.........

Imo

I'm sure Davenport has won his fair share of races that may have upset the other driver(s) involved. There is nothing wrong with that though. If I didn't want to see any contact and 100% clean racing I would go watch Sprints or Indy Cars or something. The reason I love Late Model racing is because (supposedly) contact is a part of the game.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[blncfn57]

Still waiting for someone to answer my question.
If Erb was the fastest car.....why the need to "get wide" and change his line to pinch off JD???
Why not "race him more" like Erb said himself?

I think it has been answered. Erb was good all night, but the longer the race went green, the further he got away from the field. A caution with 3 laps to go wasn't exactly what he needed, but then again there's a reason JD waited until the last corner to make that move..... I think if it was any earlier, Erb would have got back by him. I believe JD knew that.

Also, Erb "getting wide" amounted to maybe a half a car width variation from what he ran most of the night (with the exception of going around lap cars).

[25drtrkr]

I think it has been answered. Erb was good all night, but the longer the race went green, the further he got away from the field. A caution with 3 laps to go wasn't exactly what he needed, but then again there's a reason JD waited until the last corner to make that move..... I think if it was any earlier, Erb would have got back by him. I believe JD knew that.

Also, Erb "getting wide" amounted to maybe a half a car width variation from what he ran most of the night (with the exception of going around lap cars).

Yep, he left Jd plenty of room for him to bang the cushion, but as USUAL, SuperCHUMP ran out of TALENT and RESPECT!....an old saying keeps playing in my head....."you reap far MORE than you sow"! I hope Longhorn has some new cars on the jig, the house car is fixin to need them!

[CarolinaDirt]

All the races he has been in and you went that far back for an example? That is saying something about his "dirty" driving. Another example is the Dream with Frye where I think he misjudged where Frye was going to go. This was when I was a big Frye fan and not a Bloomer fan. Maybe the Massey one was dirty, but to have to go back that far is saying something. Same can be said for Moyer, Owens, Birky when he raced, they just ran clean is all.

Haven't seen video of Fairbury yet so I won't say one way or the other. Not trying to start nothing either man, enough of that in this thread already. Just saying, to have to go back that far says something.

Just give me your phone # and I'll text you before I post so you can twist it and argue it instantly next time . Geez I'm a bloomer fan I never said he was dirty. 25 drtrkr acted like there is never any incidents in racing with the big 3 . You race long enough your gonna hit someone no matter how clean you are .

I like you cnb but man this is getting old .

[pierceFAN]

Just give me your phone # and I'll text you before I post so you can twist it and argue it instantly next time . Geez I'm a bloomer fan I never said he was dirty. 25 drtrkr acted like there is never any incidents in racing with the big 3 . You race long enough your gonna hit someone no matter how clean you are .

I like you cnb but man this is getting old .

i gotta say the people on this board think this that the cars are made of glass....dont take the racing out of it people...everybody at one time or another has a bad slide job...everybody is gonna door someone...with the limited visibilty to the rear and sides someones gonna get pinched in the wall...its just gonna happen...guys are gonna try to make "that move"...there is alot of adreniline pumping...i dont know about you but i dont want it where the drivers are scared to rub a little...the davenport/erb thing was really a minor incedent and i promise 20 years ago nothing would have been said about it...and if erb didnt like it...he would have either went over to his hauler afterwards or he would settle it a different way on the track...that was it...just that simple...

[CarolinaDirt]

Agreed man I have seen far worse guarantee these guys hated Earnhardt lol

[skids]

I think it has been answered. Erb was good all night, but the longer the race went green, the further he got away from the field.

I disagree. I saw Davenport keep Erb within his view all night. Never had more than a straightaway lead on JD (or the second place car at any point) so I'm not sure where anybody gets the "pulling away" at all.


A caution with 3 laps to go wasn't exactly what he needed, but then again there's a reason JD waited until the last corner to make that move..... I think if it was any earlier, Erb would have got back by him. I believe JD knew that.

JD was about to pass Erb when that caution flew with 4 laps remaining, so regardless of the caution JD was right there and making the pass.


Also, Erb "getting wide" amounted to maybe a half a car width variation from what he ran most of the night (with the exception of going around lap cars).

A half a car is a lot when it's toward the outside wall and you're running about a car's width from it before. You also apparently refuse to see his line on the last lap. He was completely against the wall when he knew JD was coming, so please don't try to minimize it.

Don't get me wrong. I don't fault Erb for getting wide. It's part of the game. BUT, so is the crossover dive JD made when Erb slid to the wall to block.

I just disagree with Erb's complaint that JD "coulda raced him more" rather than door him. Why does that not apply to Erb when he slides to the wall when he knows good and well that JD was there and coming hard???? Again, IF Erb had the faster car, then stop the double standard and "race him more", instead of blocking. That's all I'm saying.

[#FALSuperman]

i gotta say the people on this board think this that the cars are made of glass....dont take the racing out of it people...everybody at one time or another has a bad slide job...everybody is gonna door someone...with the limited visibilty to the rear and sides someones gonna get pinched in the wall...its just gonna happen...guys are gonna try to make "that move"...there is alot of adreniline pumping...i dont know about you but i dont want it where the drivers are scared to rub a little...the davenport/erb thing was really a minor incedent and i promise 20 years ago nothing would have been said about it...and if erb didnt like it...he would have either went over to his hauler afterwards or he would settle it a different way on the track...that was it...just that simple...Agreed...this is dirt. The "cleanest" racers ever to race on dirt, have had their rubs, bumps, pushes. It is a 1/4 mile oval. This was the last lap and JD made a calculated move at the best time of the race. I can tell you by the crowd reaction, most people felt JD made a great move. There was hardly a boo to be heard.

[T-MAC39FAN]

Guys your not going to stop the davenport haters. They just need to save there stuff for next week and the week after. Its just BIG BALLS and HARD RACING pushed to the limit. Cedar lake is the next victum. Fals was just a test session.

[Okfine]

Yep, he left Jd plenty of room for him to bang the cushion, but as USUAL, SuperCHUMP ran out of TALENT and RESPECT!....an old saying keeps playing in my head....."you reap far MORE than you sow"! I hope Longhorn has some new cars on the jig, the house car is fixin to need them!

They do!!!

[B_K]

I don't see the debate here. He banked off him to win 26k, big deal. 1. Erb changed his line and left the door open. 2. He didnt dump him, Erb still finished 2nd. 3. Erb would have pulled the same move. All those guys who do it for a living would have. If they tell you different they're lying.

Davenport has made a bonehead move or two in the past (O'neal @ the Dream, McDowell @ Cherokee come to mind). What he was doing at Fairbury was his job. It was Erb's job to hold him off he didn't. Load em up and try again this week.

[B_K]

Yep, he left Jd plenty of room for him to bang the cushion, but as USUAL, SuperCHUMP ran out of TALENT and RESPECT!....an old saying keeps playing in my head....."you reap far MORE than you sow"! I hope Longhorn has some new cars on the jig, the house car is fixin to need them!


Yeah, let's get in a wreckfest with a driver of a MFG housecar.............

[T-MAC39FAN]

Yep, he left Jd plenty of room for him to bang the cushion, but as USUAL, SuperCHUMP ran out of TALENT and RESPECT!....an old saying keeps playing in my head....."you reap far MORE than you sow"! I hope Longhorn has some new cars on the jig, the house car is fixin to need them!



Yup that is a brand new car. They have plenty of parts. Another win w a broken car part.