XR1 body compared to Blue

[lrnvlFan1w]

I have seen several photos of the new XR1 Rocket cars. Most recently Max Blairs.

In the photos it looks like the deck is lower and that there is a more drastic increase in angle towards the spoiler.

Is this an illusion or am I seeing it correctly?

Is this specific to the XR1 or can you copy it to the blue fronts?

I notice the Longhorns look like they have a lower deck height as well?

[Matt49]

I have seen several photos of the new XR1 Rocket cars. Most recently Max Blairs.

In the photos it looks like the deck is lower and that there is a more drastic increase in angle towards the spoiler.

Is this an illusion or am I seeing it correctly?

Is this specific to the XR1 or can you copy it to the blue fronts?

I notice the Longhorns look like they have a lower deck height as well?

The height and angle of the decking have nothing to do with manufacturer or model of the chassis. The braces that locate and support the decking are often custom made and adjustable in some cases.

[Kwoods25]

The deck in the xr1 is 2 inches lower at the mid point than the other cars. You can copy it to any car. Just alot of work to do

[lrnvlFan1w]

Is the struggle to drop the deck worth the advantages, or is it just smoking the mirror?

[zeroracing]

Lower deck makes a right side exit much easier in a hurry.

[Kwoods25]

Aero is major now days! Any little bit helps. Anything to better them stopwatch times is worth it! To me anyways.

[rocket1*]

I have seen several photos of the new XR1 Rocket cars. Most recently Max Blairs.

In the photos it looks like the deck is lower and that there is a more drastic increase in angle towards the spoiler.

Is this an illusion or am I seeing it correctly?

Is this specific to the XR1 or can you copy it to the blue fronts?

I notice the Longhorns look like they have a lower deck height as well?



Where can I see pictures of this car?

[Kwoods25]

If you can find pictures of Richards car at Charlotte that was the xr1

[TheJet-09]

12.9 Interiors
A.) Interior is permitted to be dropped to the middle of the car a maximum of three inches ( 5 ”) below the top
of doors and a minimum of twelve inches (12”) below the roll cage.

^^^ This is from the 2016 LOLMDS Rule Book. The "word" three was not updated/changed, but the "5" in parenthesis is actually in red, meaning it was changed from 2015. That gives you an extra two inches to drop the interior. I believe Dirtcar/UMP is still at 4" though.

[parocket]

I was at Rocket this past Friday, looked at the XR1 for a good 2 hours, there is much more going on that the deck being lower. The car is much more compact, appears to be much stiffer as well. Plus just about everything is modular, all brackets bolt on.

[Kromulous]

I was looking at the front of a long horn, talk about stiff. Must be the new trend, bolt on brackets as well.

Whats the price tag on a new XR1 frame etc?

[7uptruckracer]

I BELIEVE 41k Roller with body

I was looking at the front of a long horn, talk about stiff. Must be the new trend, bolt on brackets as well.

Whats the price tag on a new XR1 frame etc?

[junebug]

[QUOTE=Kromulous;1979508]I was looking at the front of a long horn, talk about stiff. Must be the new trend, bolt on brackets as well.

Do u mean stiff suspension wise?? Like spring rates??? Or the frame design and bracing

[Matt49]

[QUOTE=Kromulous;1979508]I was looking at the front of a long horn, talk about stiff. Must be the new trend, bolt on brackets as well.

Do u mean stiff suspension wise?? Like spring rates??? Or the frame design and bracing

I'd bet he's talking the chassis itself. The front of a longhorn has X bracing where most chassis have nothing. There are some good pics here:
http://insidedirtracing.com/vic-hill-set-to-debut-new-longhorn-chassis/

[Kwoods25]

I was up there last week at rocket. The xr1 deck is just dropped. It has all the weird angles too get within the door height rule. Also seen Babbs new car as well

[lrnvlFan1w]

Here is where I got my reference to Max Blair's car.

https://www.facebook.com/Team-Blair-Racing-175359437981/

Anyone have photos of the deck close up or the spec sheet to build the deck?

[billetbirdcage]

I said a while back that I'd find it highly likely that you where going to see a trend to stiffen the car's frames:

http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?352683-Todays-technology-with-floating-X&p=1966341#post1966341

[Kwoods25]

Here is one

[Kwoods25]

Never mind I cannot get them to post

[RCJ]

Has anybody ever been teched on deck drop?

[Kwoods25]

Bloomer got caught a long time ago for deck to low

[cross55]

The xr1 is a bad ass piece. There is so much differnt stuff going on pictures won't even show all the stuff. The deck slopes a ton from behind the driver back up to the spoiler. It's so.Low the fuel cap on the fuel cell about rubs the fuel door.

[Matt49]

The XR1 is a CHASSIS, not a body. The body and decking configuration that Rocket is using for the bodies that leave their shop (full rollers) can be duplicated on literally ANY dirt late model chassis on the market.
From reading this thread, if I didn't know any better, I would be convinced that getting a new Rocket roller is the only way to be on top of the current aero game.

[Kwoods25]

The XR1 is a CHASSIS, not a body. The body and decking configuration that Rocket is using for the bodies that leave their shop (full rollers) can be duplicated on literally ANY dirt late model chassis on the market. From reading this thread, if I didn't know any better, I would be convinced that getting a new Rocket roller is the only way to be on top of the current aero game.I think people are forgetting this, or don't want to put in the work

[parocket]

We made changes this years to lower the deck for room for driver to remove himself and it took ALOT of work to get enough space to get a large impact helmet out the right side.

[Kwoods25]

Guy at our local track years back run with no roof all the time he was to big to get out between door and halo. Just crawled out the roof everytime

[parocket]

My guy is 6'1" 185 # but try getting a helmet out the right side, maybe able on its side but not vertically.

[Kwoods25]

I'm 6'2" 265#. I had to move the roof on my car all the way against the roll bar. It's tough on a big boy getting out of these things, especially with a full containment seat. Gonna be a tall cage car for me next time for sure

[Matt49]

I'm thinking about putting a hinged door in the roof. Getting out the right side is very difficult with the full containment seat. We got doored pretty bad one time last year and it folded the top of the door and decking up so that I couldn't get out after the race without having somebody really work to push it down from outside first. I got claustrophobic in a hurry.

[Kwoods25]

I know what you mean, if I feel like I cannot get out I hate it. We had a guy flip couple years ago and his door got pushed up and we couldn't get him out. Took a couple guys jumping on top of the door so he was able to slide out. Scary feeling when your pinned in. Edit also he was leaking gas as all this was going on we was rushing pretty quick