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Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 08:14 PM
New Camaro ZR1 off the lot... 1st gear... 0 to 60... 3.5 sec.. Sorry Mustang fans Boys drive Mustangs,,, Men drive Camaros.....Full .5 sec faster then there Best Mustang...Even with after market add ons.....

ClampedUp
08-27-2016, 08:30 PM
Put on your lil boy bow tie and saddle up your cotton pony rocking horse while the real men strap on 707 stock off the showroom floor Hemi HP to their azz!! Put a tune on it and some aftermarket parts on it and have a 1000+ HP Hemi monster!!

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 08:41 PM
Put on your lil boy bow tie and saddle up your cotton pony rocking horse while the real men strap on 707 stock off the showroom floor Hemi HP to their azz!! Put a tune on it and some aftermarket parts on it and have a 1000+ HP Hemi monster!!

Better go read there scats 0 to 60 in 4.0 is 1/2 sec slower then ZL1.. ZL1 is number 1. And put the tune on the ZL1 with the tw turbo at 1000 hp +

waaac77
08-27-2016, 08:43 PM
Mustangs aren't sports cars. Apples-Oranges

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 08:46 PM
Mustangs aren't sports cars. Apples-Oranges

Tell that too my Ford friends... LOL

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 08:48 PM
Put on your lil boy bow tie and saddle up your cotton pony rocking horse while the real men strap on 707 stock off the showroom floor Hemi HP to their azz!! Put a tune on it and some aftermarket parts on it and have a 1000+ HP Hemi monster!!

707 gets it shorts eaten on the road coarse ZL1 rules.....

MI Dirt Fan
08-27-2016, 08:52 PM
My dad had a GMC with a 8.1 Big block (496 C.I) with the Allison. Let's just say it had some giddy up. Straight from the factory. lol. Even the 6.6 GMC duramax diesel with the Allison will get up a go

NormP
08-27-2016, 08:56 PM
Better go read there scats 0 to 60 in 4.0 is 1/2 sec slower then ZL1.. ZL1 is number 1. And put the tune on the ZL1 with the tw turbo at 1000 hp +

Actually it's 3.4 seconds for the Charger Hellcat. So the camaro is .1 slower....

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 09:04 PM
Actually it's 3.4 seconds for the Charger Hellcat. So the camaro is .1 slower....
Wrong
I was off a little (The 0-60 time is 3.7 seconds on street tires,) from dodges web site so its .2 slower ZR1 rules

ClampedUp
08-27-2016, 09:06 PM
I am true blue Hemi man through and through for 50+ years. The day you see me spending one penny on a fairy tie or a cotton pony you best be kissing your azz goodbye because the Earth is about to implode! LOL!!
I'd drive a Yugo before I ever wasted my money on those POS. He11 GM had to make their Vette look like a Viper and now Ford has their cotton pony looking like the Charger.

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 09:09 PM
Plus 4 doors is for Girls ..Not a sports car .. Get it on the road coarse and I cant see it in the Mirror...

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 09:12 PM
I am true blue Hemi man through and through for 50+ years. The day you see me spending one penny on a fairy tie or a cotton pony you best be kissing your azz goodbye because the Earth is about to implode! LOL!!
I'd drive a Yugo before I ever wasted my money on those POS. He11 GM had to make their Vette look like a Viper and now Ford has their cotton pony looking like the Charger.

New Vette look like a Viper no way ..Viper O do they still make that,,, O no they dont.....

MI Dirt Fan
08-27-2016, 09:14 PM
New Vette look like a Viper no way ..Viper O do they still make that,,, O no they dont.....

Actually they do

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 09:22 PM
Actually they do

Last year then its gone.. No more Natta.. Some how they got a way out of the air bags this year not next.... So its GONE..........
Crash test on it Not good Not a safe car...

MI Dirt Fan
08-27-2016, 09:28 PM
I will always buy GM. My dad retired from there. 30 yrs.

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 09:31 PM
I am true blue Hemi man through and through for 50+ years. The day you see me spending one penny on a fairy tie or a cotton pony you best be kissing your azz goodbye because the Earth is about to implode! LOL!!
I'd drive a Yugo before I ever wasted my money on those POS. He11 GM had to make their Vette look like a Viper and now Ford has their cotton pony looking like the Charger.

Friend of mine had a Hemi Cuda think it was a 1970 purple,,, He loved that car .. back then the Hemi on the street was not that fast .. Boy did it sound good...At the track the Hemi were tearing it up...was a Chevy man had a lot of friends that like the Dodges ..and a few Mustang friends...68 69 70 the years of Cool cars......all makes all models....

zyoung25
08-27-2016, 09:40 PM
I'm not a ford man. But that new Shelby will walk circles around the z28. Strip and road course both. It has less hp and torque than the z28.

I can't post the link off of my phone. But theres a 25 min video on youtube of the same dude driving both cars on the same track. Chevy gonna have to step their game up there.

Josh Bayko
08-27-2016, 09:56 PM
Plus 4 doors is for Girls ..Not a sports car .. Get it on the road coarse and I cant see it in the Mirror...

A Mercedes E63 AMG would sh*t all over a Camaro on a road course. It has four doors. I'm pretty sure a Cadillac CTS V sedan would too.

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 10:12 PM
I'm not a ford man. But that new Shelby will walk circles around the z28. Strip and road course both. It has less hp and torque than the z28.

I can't post the link off of my phone. But theres a 25 min video on youtube of the same dude driving both cars on the same track. Chevy gonna have to step their game up there.

Not next years Z28.. Not a change the Z28 will have the same set up as the ZL1 exp the motor will be one step down...Car for Car price for price the ZL1 eats Shelbys Shorts....Next year the Z28 will too....Car and Driver Call them a True Sports car...right behind the Vett.....Viper is the only other car and they gone next year....

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 10:30 PM
A Mercedes E63 AMG would sh*t all over a Camaro on a road course. It has four doors. I'm pretty sure a Cadillac CTS V sedan would too.

Had to go do some Fact Finding .. First for 43.000 more bucks it better be fast.. But if you put it up too the ZL1 twn turbo .. Still 28.000 bucks more not so much.. drag race its close.. but on the road coarse The ZL1 trbo Holds its own...E63 is a sleek 4 door the 707 is a road hog... Next years Camaro will have the same under frame as the CTS ..the new ZL1 has the same frame as the CTS V

NormP
08-27-2016, 10:33 PM
Wrong
I was off a little (The 0-60 time is 3.7 seconds on street tires,) from dodges web site so its .2 slower ZR1 rules

Wrong. 3.4 seconds as tested independently so it's .1 faster than Camaro

Cardirt0
08-27-2016, 10:38 PM
Wrong. 3.4 seconds as tested independently so it's .1 faster than Camaro

Went too 4 sites and all of them said 3.7 so they say Wrong...
Some of them did like 10 passes to get the 3.7 on a blue moon it may do 3.4 and in some of the passes the ZL1 did lower the 3.5 but on 10 runs it was 3.5

zyoung25
08-28-2016, 12:02 AM
Not next years Z28.. Not a change the Z28 will have the same set up as the ZL1 exp the motor will be one step down...Car for Car price for price the ZL1 eats Shelbys Shorts....Next year the Z28 will too....Car and Driver Call them a True Sports car...right behind the Vett.....Viper is the only other car and they gone next year....

ZL1 and shelby aren't built for the same purpose though. The z28 and gt350r are, I'd hope the ZL1 would wax the shelby, considering it's a track car, the zl1 couldnt enter and exit corner lIke the z or shelby does either. A good friend of mine has a new z28. I don't care for all the cheap plastic interior pieces and no ac, it feels like your in a high performance work truck when you sit in it. The shelby has all of that nice stuff, and still eats the z28s lunch. Chevy has some work to do. Cuz if ford can produce a track car, with everything a track car doesn't need, and is a better product all the way around, I don't know what the next step could be. IMO ford is already one step ahead there. Their always trying to outdo the other, that's what makes it interesting to me.

chupp n bloomer fan
08-28-2016, 12:24 AM
I don't get this Chevy, Ford, Dodge, import, one is bad, blah blah blah. Man, find what you like, no matter what, and give it a try.

I haven't looked up the ZL1, but I'm sure it's bad a$$, just as all the other cars mentioned are, except the Mustangs. I swear you sit in one, and when you start it, it sucks your brain right outta your head. I like Mustangs, it's the people driving them that is awful.

Been around Vettes, Trans Ams, GTO's, my WRX, IROC-Z's, and others, all fun. IROC-Z was a pieced together POS, but fast. Came with the 305 TPI, and put a 350 TPI in it.

jeffreymo
08-28-2016, 01:22 AM
Ford didn't take my money in the form of a bail out.

Josh Bayko
08-28-2016, 08:35 AM
Had to go do some Fact Finding .. First for 43.000 more bucks it better be fast.. But if you put it up too the ZL1 twn turbo .. Still 28.000 bucks more not so much.. drag race its close.. but on the road coarse The ZL1 trbo Holds its own...E63 is a sleek 4 door the 707 is a road hog... Next years Camaro will have the same under frame as the CTS ..the new ZL1 has the same frame as the CTS V

If you think an American muscle car is going to out handle an AMG, you really don't know anything about cars.

Wonder
08-28-2016, 08:39 AM
Get on a Boss Hoss if you want a real thrill. Zero to 60 in 1.5 seconds is a rush........

Highside Hustler25
08-28-2016, 08:50 AM
Until they find a way to get some rubber under the rear, none of these cars utilize their true HP. Have driven a Mustang and a Hellcat. Way to much power for the tires. Lot of fun tho.

Barbecueboy
08-28-2016, 09:43 AM
Ill try to keep you in my sites in my quick 2012 tundra and then honk and waive when I go by you pulled over by the po po.............beep beep.

ClampedUp
08-28-2016, 10:35 AM
If you think an American muscle car is going to out handle an AMG, you really don't know anything about cars.

Come on Josh that's like comparing an F-1 car to a Cup car on a road course.
The true American muscle cars have been about the drag strip not the road racing scene.
Though the Shelby Cobra, GT 40, Vette, and Viper have won some of the Worlds top road races over the years......

old fan
08-28-2016, 10:53 AM
If you think an American muscle car is going to out handle an AMG, you really don't know anything about cars.afraid you are wrong , the new caddy or Camaro can this ain't your daddys hot rod

old fan
08-28-2016, 10:56 AM
Get on a Boss Hoss if you want a real thrill. Zero to 60 in 1.5 seconds is a rush........ I am sure on a road course even more so

Josh Bayko
08-28-2016, 11:06 AM
afraid you are wrong , the new caddy or Camaro can this ain't your daddys hot rod

Cars like AMGs, BMW's M series and Audi's S series are designed mostly with the Nurburgring in mind. There is nothing even close to that in the states. Germans pride themselves on race car level handling and Americans pride themselves on mass amounts of horsepower. It's not a good thing or a bad thing, it's just the way it is.

old fan
08-28-2016, 11:12 AM
someone didn't tell the dodge viper that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times

NormP
08-28-2016, 01:32 PM
Went too 4 sites and all of them said 3.7 so they say Wrong...
Some of them did like 10 passes to get the 3.7 on a blue moon it may do 3.4 and in some of the passes the ZL1 did lower the 3.5 but on 10 runs it was 3.5

Literally the very first thing that pops up when you google "Charger Hellcat 0-60"

http://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/charger-srt-srt-hellcat

Don't know how much easier it can be.


Plus it has 4 doors.

In reality I'd take either one over the Mustang, but my preference will be the 4 door MoPar hemi power.

old fan
08-28-2016, 02:05 PM
or you could buy 2 chevy ss 's which .5 seconds slower for the same price plus at a bonus a more comfy ride

Clayton_Wetter
08-28-2016, 06:44 PM
I am true blue Hemi man through and through for 50+ years. The day you see me spending one penny on a fairy tie or a cotton pony you best be kissing your azz goodbye because the Earth is about to implode! LOL!!
I'd drive a Yugo before I ever wasted my money on those POS. He11 GM had to make their Vette look like a Viper and now Ford has their cotton pony looking like the Charger.

That's your problem!!! :)

old fan
08-28-2016, 06:58 PM
Ford didn't take my money in the form of a bail out.maybe they should 've

old fan
08-28-2016, 08:13 PM
the 2016 corvette does 0-60 in 2.95 seconds dodge and ford lovers

jeffreymo
08-28-2016, 08:19 PM
maybe they should 've

Why is that, troll?

old fan
08-28-2016, 08:20 PM
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BEAT (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)

NormP
08-28-2016, 11:42 PM
By the way, we're getting a little off topic talking about the bailout money, but all three took money from the government. The only difference is that Ford's several billion dollar loan came from a different fund than the other two.

"Ford requested a $9 billion line-of-credit from the government, and a $5 billion loan from the Energy Department. It pledged to accelerate development of both hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, retool plants to increase production of smaller cars, close dealerships, and sell Volvo."

They called it bankruptcy bailout for GM and Chrysler, and both paid it back and the government sold its shares of stock. They called it a loan for Ford--supposedly to develop electric cars (how many electric cars does Ford have in production since then, by the way?), but unlike the other two companies, Ford still hasn't paid their money back yet.

Whatever word you want to use to describe it, bailout or "loan", the result is the same--they still took our money. At least GM and Chrysler paid us back.

old fan
08-29-2016, 07:29 AM
and how many electric cars will be solid

jog49
08-29-2016, 09:18 AM
Today's top fuel dragsters can do 0 to 60 in 0.2 seconds. You can buy one of those too but what are you going to do with it?

Your friendly state trooper

Cardirt0
08-29-2016, 10:26 AM
today's top fuel dragsters can do 0 to 60 in 0.2 seconds. You can buy one of those too but what are you going to do with it?

Your friendly state trooper

go 0 to 60 in .02 sec....

chupp n bloomer fan
08-29-2016, 11:54 AM
go 0 to 60 in .02 sec....Lmao, yep. And sh!t yourself. Watching them tires flex alone is amazing.