Portsmouth

[ptown]

How's the racing there, I may make my first trip if the weather looks decent. What about camping?

[71PRPFan]

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[GEAR_HEAD]

It's typically not very good. I have attended the DTWC for several years in a row but won't be attending this year because of the poor racing. The only chance of the race being decent is if it rains a ton early Saturday. The track prep is pretty sad and Carl puts too many laps on the track on Saturday before the feature so it is locked down before the feature starts.

[Base_Fuel]

Terrible!!!! Save your money.

[MEE]

Personally I'd like to see the DTWC back at Atomic,but that's just me.
The last time it was there it was a train race in the feature too.
I like PRP but just better racing at Atomic IMO.
The heats and B's will be worth the trip.
ptown if u do go and need any info you can pm me and I'll give you any info you want.

[Pennsboro23]

I've been to every DTWC at Portsmouth and really only seen one decent race. By feature time, the track is locked down. But, I'll be there. I love this race, I love the atmosphere. Too many DTWC memories from Pennsboro.

[zyoung25]

It's hit or miss. The labor day race was awesome, the Dillow race was a snoozer. I went this past weekend and the racing was really good.

If you think that the dust at eldora was bad, don't even bother leaving the house. Prp is sandy, so eldora on its worst day doesn't hold a stick to prp on its best day.

I'd like to see it move back to atomic too, that isn't going to happen. Prp is goldmine with all the camping space and seating.

[Pennsboro23]

Can we bring it back to Pennsboro? Wishful thinking....

[GEAR_HEAD]

It's hit or miss. The labor day race was awesome, the Dillow race was a snoozer. I went this past weekend and the racing was really good.

If you think that the dust at eldora was bad, don't even bother leaving the house. Prp is sandy, so eldora on its worst day doesn't hold a stick to prp on its best day.

I'd like to see it move back to atomic too, that isn't going to happen. Prp is goldmine with all the camping space and seating.

PRP is a great facility in a great location, but the racing quality should be the #1 priority and PRP just doesn't have it. They should have never made the track bigger. Now the high groove is basically worthless without a cushion because the banking needs fixed, as we saw at last year's DTWC freight train. Sadly all of Carl's shows are turning into freight trains, the Hillbilly was a joke.

[birky time]

I will be honest about the fourth /fifth groove up as been used more this year then in the past...im hoping it will be a good one this year....if I didn't live 30min away I wouldn't attend this but I will have a good time say!

[jr1216]

I agree about the racing there. We have went the last 3 years and have decided not to go anymore until the racing is better. I will miss the restaurant downtown called the ribber. The place has the best steak i have ever eaten. We are going to go to the deep fried 75 at duck river or the coors light 100 in mississippi the week after the dirt track.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

PRP is typically very good for a 1 day show. 2 is very iffy. 3 days, no way!

[Clayton_Wetter]

Personally I'd like to see the DTWC back at Atomic,but that's just me.
The last time it was there it was a train race in the feature too.
I like PRP but just better racing at Atomic IMO.
The heats and B's will be worth the trip.
ptown if u do go and need any info you can pm me and I'll give you any info you want.

The last time it was at Atomic the track prep was nothing short of horrible though. In fact most of the tracks this event has been at have not even done no way near a decent job of track prep, but are sometimes bailed out by a lot of rain. Like Bardstown and Atomic both had one time at each track.

Drivers, owners, and promoters care about what is cheapest for them and the fans get the shaft. But they promote and carry on like all is great.

Talking to a promoter will do you zero good, I found that out several times.

[zyoung25]

PRP is a great facility in a great location, but the racing quality should be the #1 priority and PRP just doesn't have it. They should have never made the track bigger. Now the high groove is basically worthless without a cushion because the banking needs fixed, as we saw at last year's DTWC freight train. Sadly all of Carl's shows are turning into freight trains, the Hillbilly was a joke.

I've said that several times that they shouldn't have made the place bigger, it was a racy joint when I was smaller. The top groove has a shelf, it basically goes up and flattens off before it reaches the wall, and even with the type of dirt there, it's hard for a cushion to really develop without a crap ton of rain. I still think just moving those tires up from the bottom a couple car widths would help the racing tremendously, it definitely couldn't hurt it any.

The food, facilities, the people are all great there. It's sad the race is snoozer most of the time, but I'll be there. It's one of my home tracks, and I hardly ever miss this race if I can help it any.

[71PRPFan]

I'll be there. I'm thinking it will be a good 75 lapper

[71PRPFan]

Come out and hang out get drunk enjoy our diners. Last big race of the year beside Charlotte. It can't hurt

[chupp n bloomer fan]

The last time it was at Atomic the track prep was nothing short of horrible though. In fact most of the tracks this event has been at have not even done no way near a decent job of track prep, but are sometimes bailed out by a lot of rain. Like Bardstown and Atomic both had one time at each track.

Drivers, owners, and promoters care about what is cheapest for them and the fans get the shaft. But they promote and carry on like all is great.

Talking to a promoter will do you zero good, I found that out several times.And that tool lost the track within a couple months of that disaster. The guy running it now, so far, I think is a lot better. Hopefully he starts improving bleachers and that, but track wise, pretty good.

[King1]

I was there is 2011 for the last one at atomic. It locked down in the third heat I believe. But I'm pretty sure it rained Friday and they ran the entire show on Saturday. It was black top to bottom in qualifying. Seems like the DTWC was always plagued with weather. Wasn't a bad race in 2005 when bloomy won it though.
PRP has the potential for a good race but like everyone else said, waaaaaay too many laps on it. I think if they ran the mod show the prior week or the following week they would be better off.

[JustAddDirt]

I think it should go back to Lawrenceburg, IN

Close to Cincinnati
abundance of food, and hotel accommodations'
2 Casino boats close
camping spots available
Feature in the 2009 DTWC was awesome

[BIGSTEVE00]

I've been to all the DTWC's at Portsmouth and the only good race was when BShepp beat Bloomer. That was an awesome race. But as others have said the track is locked down before the feature even starts. So whoever starts on the front will win. Unless it comes a downpour early Saturday. I would love to see Atomic get another chance now that they have a great track crew and a great racing surface here lately. I think they are ready for it again. But to a point PRP is as close to Pennsboro racing your going to get without being at Pennsboro. And we can blame Pat Patrick for the race always being threatened by rain. He told Carl Short that the second week in October is always a beautiful weekend, lol.

[COKEandaSMILE]

The quality of the racing has absolutely nothing to do with where this race is held!

[Bubstr]

I have never been to this race. The only view I've had is in DOD highlights. I do have a couple questions. Isn't this the race that adopted the I80 passing point format? Didn't the first race under this format have rave reviews, even though some attributed the passing and good racing to a timely rain shower? But wasn't the next year half way decent? Do I have the right race and track, or am I confused?

I usually make it a point to see reports of three years of good racing after a lock down, to avoid wasting time and money. Am I thinking about a different track and race?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I have never been to this race. The only view I've had is in DOD highlights. I do have a couple questions. Isn't this the race that adopted the I80 passing point format? Didn't the first race under this format have rave reviews, even though some attributed the passing and good racing to a timely rain shower? But wasn't the next year half way decent? Do I have the right race and track, or am I confused?

I usually make it a point to see reports of three years of good racing after a lock down, to avoid wasting time and money. Am I thinking about a different track and race?

2015 was the first time with the i80 format .

North/South 100 is into year 3 of the format, I believe.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I have never been to this race. The only view I've had is in DOD highlights. I do have a couple questions. Isn't this the race that adopted the I80 passing point format? Didn't the first race under this format have rave reviews, even though some attributed the passing and good racing to a timely rain shower? But wasn't the next year half way decent? Do I have the right race and track, or am I confused?

I usually make it a point to see reports of three years of good racing after a lock down, to avoid wasting time and money. Am I thinking about a different track and race?Yes it had pretty good reviews. Rain is the only thing that helps that place on multi day shows.

[GEAR_HEAD]

I think it should go back to Lawrenceburg, IN

Close to Cincinnati
abundance of food, and hotel accommodations'
2 Casino boats close
camping spots available
Feature in the 2009 DTWC was awesome

It wasn't fair that they never got a 2nd chance.

[Bloomerdirtking]

I am another who wish it would have stayed in Lawrenceburg. That would have been a great home for it.

[Clayton_Wetter]

It wasn't fair that they never got a 2nd chance.

They would just blow it again. That place would go one lane every time. They don't cut the track anymore and the only place to run is against the cushion. Lucas race in August was a good example of the racing you would get.

Just go to the Casino.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I've been to all the DTWC's at Portsmouth and the only good race was when BShepp beat Bloomer. That was an awesome race. But as others have said the track is locked down before the feature even starts. So whoever starts on the front will win. Unless it comes a downpour early Saturday. I would love to see Atomic get another chance now that they have a great track crew and a great racing surface here lately. I think they are ready for it again. But to a point PRP is as close to Pennsboro racing your going to get without being at Pennsboro. And we can blame Pat Patrick for the race always being threatened by rain. He told Carl Short that the second week in October is always a beautiful weekend, lol.And that's the one Bloomer broke in. Yeah, it was pretty good though. I remember that mod race being amazing.

[GEAR_HEAD]

They would just blow it again. That place would go one lane every time. They don't cut the track anymore and the only place to run is against the cushion. Lucas race in August was a good example of the racing you would get.

Just go to the Casino.

The track prep used to be good there. The daytime DTWC was actually a good race.

[Clayton_Wetter]

The track prep used to be good there. The daytime DTWC was actually a good race.

Yes it was.

[Bubstr]

Ok, so it was the race I was thinking it was. Last year the highlights where very much improved over the year before. Some say it was the rain. I believe the passing point format tends to make a multi groove track, because of the lack of time trials beating in one groove and making it the dominant groove. The dominant groove may move up the track, but it is still the dominant groove. Passing points uses more of the track earlier in the evening, making a wider track that stays that way. After one decent race, I'm looking forward to see how it goes this year. I know we can't put a order in for rain but are they still using the double heat passing point format?

[BIGSTEVE00]

And that's the one Bloomer broke in. Yeah, it was pretty good though. I remember that mod race being amazing.

Yea the mods usually put on a great show. JHawk always puts on a good show. Greggie Oliver actually won it one year.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Yea the mods usually put on a great show. JHawk always puts on a good show. Greggie Oliver actually won it one year.Yep. In that 20 car, one I'm talking about. Then again, mods in our area are pretty dang good.

[JustAddDirt]

They would just blow it again. That place would go one lane every time. They don't cut the track anymore and the only place to run is against the cushion. Lucas race in August was a good example of the racing you would get.

Just go to the Casino.

But the hard downpour of rain for 30-45 minutes at 3pm had nothing to do with the rougher than normal track conditions right.

I race there quite a bit, and it is multi-groove, no cushion, and racy from top to bottom.

[birky time]

Ok, so it was the race I was thinking it was. Last year the highlights where very much improved over the year before. Some say it was the rain. I believe the passing point format tends to make a multi groove track, because of the lack of time trials beating in one groove and making it the dominant groove. The dominant groove may move up the track, but it is still the dominant groove. Passing points uses more of the track earlier in the evening, making a wider track that stays that way. After one decent race, I'm looking forward to see how it goes this year. I know we can't put a order in for rain but are they still using the double heat passing point format?
pretty good read... I hope they use passing points!!!!!

[71PRPFan]

I think Portsmouth has done the best with what they've had presented to them. The day race wasn't bad and the Bsheps win was a good 75 laps too. Way better than the last DTWC at Atomic holy cow I swore I'd never go back but it changed hands and now they put on a good show every week.

[Clayton_Wetter]

The track prep used to be good there. The daytime DTWC was actually a good race.

Before they made the track bigger the track prep was good. Now they are too concerned about cars rolling on the big track, so they try to make it slow and smooth. But with the high banks they can still get pretty fast. Just one lane though.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I think Portsmouth has done the best with what they've had presented to them. The day race wasn't bad and the Bsheps win was a good 75 laps too. Way better than the last DTWC at Atomic holy cow I swore I'd never go back but it changed hands and now they put on a good show every week.Yeah, that an a$$hole knew he was losing it and took our money and ran.

[71PRPFan]

Thank god he did lose it. Atomic is so much better off now a days. That race locked down in hot laps and almost had a riot before feature time. I remember Tim Dohm won the NQ race and pretty much told me how it was and took the money and ran!

[zyoung25]

I remember some guys were waiting on money from those last couple races they ran when Schrader had it. Anyone know if that ever got taken care of?

[GEAR_HEAD]

I never got my money back from his last bogus "rainout".

[non driving fool]

I remember some guys were waiting on money from those last couple races they ran when Schrader had it. Anyone know if that ever got taken care of? I still have the last check I got at the pay window racing there. We paid cash at the pit gate to get in and got a bad check for racing there! I wasn't the only one and some people were owed a lot of money!

[jetwind]

thats to bad they probably bought it contract for deed had bad credit dumb move by the former owners on the fans and drivers he got it back and didnt have to pay anyone back win win for him asswipe

[zyoung25]

I still have the last check I got at the pay window racing there. We paid cash at the pit gate to get in and got a bad check for racing there! I wasn't the only one and some people were owed a lot of money!

I had heard the same thing. They had a 5k to win a week or two before the dtwc that year, which was won by Jason Montgomery. I heard he never did get paid for it, along with a lot of others too that weekend.

That years dtwc was the worst race I've ever seen to date. Like said above, he knew he was about to lose the place, and just took everyone's money and ran. Had no care in the world about the racing. Which is sad, cuz it pretty much tarnished the name of that track, even after Brad bought it. But he's turned it around 100%

[RiffRaf67]

Excerpt from the track website at the end of 2009:
“I think it will be a new experience with Goodyear getting back in the dirt track world, I am excited and looking forward to working with Goodyear as they have rich history in the dirt track industry.” Stated promoter and owner Jeff Schrader. “Being with Goodyear ensures us that our purses will remain stable and point’s funds will stay competitive."

Excerpt from the track website at the beginning of 2011:
Schrader continued to address other issues and dispel rumors. “I want to address one issue; an issue in particular that I thought I could resolve by now, but didn’t. The 2010 point fund has not been paid, but it will be paid. I apologize that I didn’t get this out sooner. It spawned a lot of bad press.”
“The top five drivers in respective divisions will get their share of the point money by July 1, 2011 and one free pit pass until July 2. Positions 6-10 will get one free pit pass for the first half of the season through July 2. I think this will be more than fair to the drivers.“

A good friend of mine finished 3rd in 410 sprint points in 2010.
He received a check for $75 in June of 2011.

[non driving fool]

The points fund stealing was the beginning of the downfall. All year long the 50/50 was sold by telling everyone half to the winner and the other half to the drivers point fund and it was no secret that the amount was over $15,000. So that winter the Schraders went on a Jamacian vacation and posted pics on facebook of the treasures they bought by spending that $15,000! What pizzed me off more that anything was that part time announcer scott wolfe defended them by saying they were hard working people that deserved that vacation! More than all the drivers that put on the show--- YA THINK SCOTT ????

[jetwind]

scott was probably (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)in his wife