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Bob Hubbard
12-02-2016, 04:32 AM
I havn't seen a post about the race track closing so I thought Id ask .... Ive been hearing its going to happen in the next 5 years or so .... Anyone have an ideal what kinda impact this will have on local racing in this area .... ( Southern Ohio )

Hoosier_Dirt
12-02-2016, 05:03 AM
Doubt it happens.

Senroc-Systems
12-02-2016, 05:10 AM
As long as they have the North/South and the Ralph Latham, they're not closing.

That being said, the regular shows are a shell of their former a selves....

zyoung25
12-02-2016, 05:20 AM
Josh is member on this site, he would be the man to ask.

I honestly don't see it happening. They get good turnouts in fans and cars, no reason to shut down if that keeps up. Plus they're planning to build a new HoF building there. It would be dumb to build that, just to have to move it.

Bob Hubbard
12-02-2016, 05:48 AM
Ok ...What i heard was sewer lines are being run along rt 42 ... This has made the 40 something acre's value go up .... I dont know the numbers of what the property in worth now .... I can only assume the property will be splt up & sold for new home construction ....

cutman
12-02-2016, 08:02 AM
I believe Josh has referred to this somewhat in the recent past(maybe a DoD interview). Mentioned something about the subdivisions creeping closer to the track. A mention of selling was in there, but with more money going into the hall of fame and the north/spurt continuing to grow, let's hope it's here to stay!

RTW
12-02-2016, 02:37 PM
For this years North South I was camped along the fence line in the main parking lot. There was quite a bit of smell of raw sewage in that area. New sewer lines my not be all bad. :) But I would agree, with the size of the North South show now, looks like it is going to be a three day show from now on. Plus they are the only track in the Norther KY/Cincy area that runs Late Models as part of their weekly show. I would hate to see them close.

MasterSbilt_Racer
12-04-2016, 08:47 AM
For this years North South I was camped along the fence line in the main parking lot. There was quite a bit of smell of raw sewage in that area. New sewer lines my not be all bad. :) But I would agree, with the size of the North South show now, looks like it is going to be a three day show from now on. Plus they are the only track in the Norther KY/Cincy area that runs Late Models as part of their weekly show. I would hate to see them close.

You don't consider Moler a Cincy area track??

kidrock
12-04-2016, 09:35 AM
For the right money who knows what might happen, money talks

zyoung25
12-04-2016, 10:38 AM
For the right money who knows what might happen, money talks

Ever wonder why they shut down after the N/S for a few weeks, think about it. It would take a pretty large chunk of change for them to lock the gates on that place, just because of that race alone.

MasterSbilt_Racer
12-04-2016, 10:56 AM
Ever wonder why they shut down after the N/S for a few weeks, think about it. It would take a pretty large chunk of change for them to lock the gates on that place, just because of that race alone.

How many buildable acres are there? In a housing boom, that place would fetch serious dough for a development

t3r3e3
12-04-2016, 11:00 AM
How many buildable acres are there? In a housing boom, that place would fetch serious dough for a development

Developers and lawyers, aka the scum of the earth. Just what Boone County needs, more Drees McMansions and some dumbass subdivision name like Oak Manor after they clear the oaks and plant Bradford pears.

MasterSbilt_Racer
12-04-2016, 11:02 AM
Developers and lawyers, aka the scum of the earth. Just what Boone County needs, more Drees McMansions and some dumbass subdivision name like Oak Manor after they clear the oaks and plant Bradford pears.

Can't disagree. But, money talks...

t3r3e3
12-04-2016, 11:13 AM
Can't disagree. But, money talks...

Sad but true. Once them subdivisions get close enough, some white collar @sshat who just purchased a McMansion will complain to the county that this den of rednecks is ruining his home value and degrading his quality of life. Said douchebag will then petition other nearby douchebags who purchased said McMansions knowing the track was there and had been for over 40 years. Douchebag list will undoubtedly include a lawyer, developer, or zoning person or two, possibly even health and safety people. Next thing you know, the track will be declared a nuisance and public health threat by the douchebags.

MasterSbilt_Racer
12-04-2016, 11:16 AM
Sad but true. Once them subdivisions get close enough, some white collar @sshat who just purchased a McMansion will complain to the county that this den of rednecks is ruining his home value and degrading his quality of life. Said douchebag will then petition other nearby douchebags who purchased said McMansions knowing the track was there and had been for over 40 years. Douchebag list will undoubtedly include a lawyer, developer, or zoning person or two, possibly even health and safety people. Next thing you know, the track will be declared a nuisance and public health threat by the douchebags.

You are 100% correct. But all LM outside one national Nascaresque tour will likely be crate by then anyway.

kazual
12-04-2016, 12:24 PM
It's a business isn't it? That is what businesses do, build their value through increased holdings or assets of one sort or the other. This attitude of some race fans comes up often, "I am entitled to have a place to watch races, how dare them close or sell out"? Nothing says it will sell or that they or someone wouldn't rebuild elsewhere if they did. Urban sprawl has created one of the few opportunities for race track owners to grow their net worth, the value of the property the track sits on. There is very little blue sky or brand value in a race track any more, even one that has a history as good as Florence.

kidrock
12-04-2016, 01:21 PM
Ever wonder why they shut down after the N/S for a few weeks, think about it. It would take a pretty large chunk of change for them to lock the gates on that place, just because of that race alone.

Like I said money talks, I'm not saying anything is going to happen but, what's the old saying for the right amount of money anything can be bought.

kidrock
12-04-2016, 01:22 PM
Can't disagree. But, money talks...

And I just hit the like button

JCSullivan00
12-04-2016, 02:56 PM
Developers and lawyers, aka the scum of the earth. Just what Boone County needs, more Drees McMansions and some dumbass subdivision name like Oak Manor after they clear the oaks and plant Bradford pears.

Jokes on you. My McMansion in Boone County is built by Fischer.

I think the biggest worry is that Triple Crown is expanding at an alarming rate. It's half way down Hicks Pike at this point.

t3r3e3
12-04-2016, 11:48 PM
Jokes on you. My McMansion in Boone County is built by Fischer.

I think the biggest worry is that Triple Crown is expanding at an alarming rate. It's half way down Hicks Pike at this point.

Drees, Fischer, Schumacher.....tomato tomahto. Triple Crown is the requisite nest of white collar folks with kids named Tanner, Brooke, Brayden, etc. who would likely be the catalyst of complaints about the noise, traffic, dust, etc. Nothing like a golf course and McMansion subdivision to ruin a nice patch of productive forest or a farm, but it's the way of suburban sprawl and unchecked growth. Boone County is turning into one giant slab of concrete, subdivisions, and shopping centers. Used to live in NKY. Lots of good folks there, but way too much development for my taste.

TS FAN
12-05-2016, 11:15 AM
Being a long time attendee of The Great Black Ice, I doubt they would sell it anytime soon. IMO, if that day ever comes, there will be a new dirt track built down by Kentucky Speedway. Just a longer trip for some of us.

Clayton_Wetter
12-05-2016, 06:58 PM
Two and a half miles up the highway from the Speedway the town of Union has grown from 1002 to approx. 7000 since 1990. And with Richwood and Walton growing also they are closing in on the track slowly but surely. Something to think about. These suburbs of Florence keep getting a lot bigger. Union I read has the highest standard of living in the state.

Mud Packer
12-05-2016, 07:22 PM
The highest standard of living there means a double wide.

Clayton_Wetter
12-05-2016, 07:36 PM
https://datausa.io/profile/geo/union-ky/

carguy001
12-05-2016, 08:56 PM
Look at Queen City speedway pavement track over in west Chester. Big office and parking facility took awhile but yuppies got their way.

NormP
12-05-2016, 10:47 PM
The highest standard of living there means a double wide.

I've never actually been past the racetrack. What's the town like?

TackyTracker
12-05-2016, 11:17 PM
can you imagine what type of racing might be at Santa Fe now?? been 20 years since they had a big race there and now sit big dollar homes paying 18-30 grand a year to live there just n prop taxes

hope Florence doesn't sell but also it still could & it doesn't need to be the type neighborhood like where Santa Fe was

t3r3e3
12-05-2016, 11:58 PM
The highest standard of living there means a double wide.

Try again. Average home price within 5 miles of the track is at least 300k, with some million plus spreads mixed in. Boone County is a pretty wealthy county, all things aside. Lots of good employers, several very good school districts, 20 minutes to Cincy. The land is worth a lot too, just not as much as the horse farm acreage that rings Lexington.

TS FAN
12-06-2016, 01:14 PM
Florence speedway is here to stay. Rumors are all for naught. Yes, I know this to be a fact. They will not ever be forced to sell it either.

Kromulous
12-06-2016, 02:35 PM
I dont know about the Speedway, but that t3r3e3 guy has me rolling laughing here.

You nailed it on the point with the McMansions, and all the kids named Braydon etc etc etc.

Dam thats funny ish...

Sad, and true at the same time.

Clayton_Wetter
12-06-2016, 04:06 PM
Florence speedway is here to stay. Rumors are all for naught. Yes, I know this to be a fact. They will not ever be forced to sell it either.

Even BLACK ICE melts eventually. hahhaahaahaaaa

TS FAN
12-06-2016, 07:30 PM
They will not be force to sell, ever. Could they choose to sell some day? Not on the radar. I told them I would squash the rumor. Josh in California.

Bob Hubbard
12-07-2016, 05:21 AM
They will not be force to sell, ever. Could they choose to sell some day? Not on the radar. I told them I would squash the rumor. Josh in California.

That's Great News ... Sounds good to me ...