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tsand
02-27-2017, 06:57 AM
Yesterday at opening day at cherokee speedway Ahanna Parkhurst spun in hot laps another crate car plowed in to her . Looked totally avoidable. The other car was driven by a ten year old. My thoughts is the is no way in hell a ten year old should be in a crate car. You thoughts

cutman
02-27-2017, 06:58 AM
If it was totally unavoidable, did it matter if he was 10 or 50?

cutman
02-27-2017, 07:00 AM
But, honestly, I say no. I'm glad Eldora has an age limit

thinkstomuch
02-27-2017, 07:07 AM
i vote for age limits, i wouldn't want to be the competitor being forced to race with someone that young. Might even drive them to a different track to avoid it

COKEandaSMILE
02-27-2017, 07:28 AM
All the drivers have to do is refuse to race if the 10 year old is allowed on the track.

It's that simple.

nuff said
02-27-2017, 07:31 AM
I agree with age limits but it wasn't the 10 yr old that spun out.

tsand
02-27-2017, 07:31 AM
Change my post to totally avoidable. Had plenty of time to miss wreack.

cutman
02-27-2017, 07:40 AM
I guess the next question would be, what should the limit be? And should it be different for different classes?

tsand
02-27-2017, 07:44 AM
I like the young gun class a lot of tracks run 12 to 14 years old in a stock 4 cylinder. Learn to drive and race with somebody your own age.

nuff said
02-27-2017, 07:54 AM
I agree tsand. Drivers should be limited to 4 cyls until they can at least get a learners permit to drive on the highway.imo

RRRKKK
02-27-2017, 08:07 AM
Been there twice I knew it was a (special) place when I saw couches nailed, tied to the trees. Talk about redneck!

Wells Racing Photos
02-27-2017, 08:09 AM
Did they use Raceceivers? If so did the young man have one in and was the wreck mentioned over them?

I think their should be age limits as well, but you also have to look at the likes of Michael Lake, who could flat wheel a car at the same age...

zyoung25
02-27-2017, 08:12 AM
I race with little kids in rc.....they're not scared to slam ya even if their several laps down. We've all been 10 years old and know it feels to be that young. You just wanna catch and pass anything ya can, at all costs. I'm all for starting kids young into racing, just not in a crate late or mod, or even a street stock for that matter. A 4cyl with the throttle rigged to where it can't go wide open until they get used to it, and work them into it.

Plus I feel like starting a your kid out in something like that would burn them out quicker. Give them something work too.

Stede Bonnet
02-27-2017, 08:20 AM
10 yr olds, NO they should NOT be running crates, 4 cylinder at most, with other kids.

ptown
02-27-2017, 08:26 AM
Horrible, what the he!! are his parents thinking, what about track liability or insurance. I would never race against a 10 year old.

Bubstr
02-27-2017, 09:20 AM
I remember the day, when you had to be 21 and male, wearing white pants, to even get in the pits.

oldfart50
02-27-2017, 10:04 AM
If you cant drive on the street legally, you should not be allowed in a race car. That is why go carts and legend cars were invented...

westlingracing
02-28-2017, 09:11 AM
My son raced karts from age 7 to 12,
Bmods at 13
Amods at 14
Latemodels 15
I don't think I would have pushed it any earlier. But my kid was always a bigger kid than the others and was more mature than most. At least when it came to racing. I doubt you could find anyone that felt he was too young at the time. Maybe one or two that were jealous but that's about it.

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 09:41 AM
When that 10 year old kills someone it will be a in court for a long time...Now in some states you cant even drive a car on your own land now if under age...In some states you can not get in a car and drive if its on land that is open to people if under age ,.. What state was this and check with the driving B to see what the law is...There is no state that it is allowed by law for a 10 year old to drive a car on or off the race track.... In Illinios it is 15 and most tracks here will not let you on the track if you ant...

TS FAN
02-28-2017, 09:47 AM
My son raced karts from age 7 to 12,
Bmods at 13
Amods at 14
Latemodels 15
I don't think I would have pushed it any earlier. But my kid was always a bigger kid than the others and was more mature than most. At least when it came to racing. I doubt you could find anyone that felt he was too young at the time. Maybe one or two that were jealous but that's about it.

That sounds reasonable. I worked with my youth group of 8-12 year olds and I love them. However I would not want to race with them just yet.

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 09:51 AM
First thing i ever drove was a 2 ton grain truck was a Farm boy .. I was 11 (1962) But the laws have changed a lot sent then... the is no state under 14 now.....Karts and bmods are not a car by law....

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 09:55 AM
Yesterday at opening day at cherokee speedway Ahanna Parkhurst spun in hot laps another crate car plowed in to her . Looked totally avoidable. The other car was driven by a ten year old. My thoughts is the is no way in hell a ten year old should be in a crate car. You thoughts

For your state it is 15 by law the cops could arrest him for being in that car....
Had too add: I would have him pay for what he did to my the car that he hit or I say I am calling the cops and him put in jail he is not allowed in a car on or off the track till hes 15 in South Carolina If hes been arrested for it would add 2 years be for he could even apply to get a lic......
Bobby P 32 got out of his BMod in to a Create on his 15 BD.....Cause they knew it was the Law...

bullring
02-28-2017, 10:28 AM
Nascar sanctioned track in Illinois you can race llm on asphalt at 14. Wisconsin I know 13 is allowed.

3wheelinphotos
02-28-2017, 01:43 PM
Guys most of these 10 yr olds have more laps than more 35 year olds racing now

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 02:04 PM
Nascar sanctioned track in Illinois you can race llm on asphalt at 14. Wisconsin I know 13 is allowed.

Not if someone pushs the state law ILL for Late models you must be 15...look it up i did..

dirtcrazy4u
02-28-2017, 02:13 PM
10 yrs old in a late model ? Whats the promotor thinking ? Why are the parents letting this happen ? Do they think there kid is the next Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart ? Does anyone have a background on this kid ? There is young talent out there. But, I think at his age he may have needed to prove he is ready ? And maybe he did, by broadsiding the car he hit. Maybe it's going to get parked until he's ready.

dirty bert
02-28-2017, 02:21 PM
Any late model class you should have to have your driver's license.

bullring
02-28-2017, 03:20 PM
Not if someone pushs the state law ILL for Late models you must be 15...look it up i did..

Don't know about the law but I know a 14 year old will be racing a limited late model in April. What's their ruling on what kind of car you have to be 15 in. I know a lot of legend drivers started younger than that.

bullring
02-28-2017, 03:22 PM
And for the record I'm against these kids driving against men. 16 or 18 minimum. If you haven't gone out and earned a dollar you shouldn't be able to go tear up a mans stuff that has.

Highside Hustler25
02-28-2017, 03:50 PM
Any late model class you should have to have your driver's license.

yep...............

TheJet-09
02-28-2017, 04:16 PM
@Cardirt0, what law in Illinois requires a minimum age to race? Statute number? There isn't one. There's a difference between a track's policy/rule versus a state law. Think about what goes into merely making a law...legislation, approval, enactment. There's a difference between a law and insurance company mandates. They also don't throw 15 year olds in jail, although some might benefit from it.

I'm pretty certain I remember Allgaier racing a Late Model at LaSalle when he was 14. And I'm certain others have as well. As far as the original topic, there should be a minimum age but what that is I'm not sure. It's not only for the safety of those around the kid, but the kid themselves. It was a couple of years ago that a young girl died in Florida, I believe. In a Hornet if I recall. Their bodies just aren't developed enough, and their minds....I think 16 is too young for the street.

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 04:55 PM
Don't know about the law but I know a 14 year old will be racing a limited late model in April. What's their ruling on what kind of car you have to be 15 in. I know a lot of legend drivers started younger than that.

Legends are not what you call a street car so they dont count. But a full size car with a big motor is.. Thats what they told me when I called them. They said if the cops found a person in a car that at one time drove on the road and they are under 15 that they are to give them a T..........Just what they told me they signed My driver L so they should Know...

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 05:03 PM
@Cardirt0, what law in Illinois requires a minimum age to race? Statute number? There isn't one. There's a difference between a track's policy/rule versus a state law. Think about what goes into merely making a law...legislation, approval, enactment. There's a difference between a law and insurance company mandates. They also don't throw 15 year olds in jail, although some might benefit from it.

I'm pretty certain I remember Allgaier racing a Late Model at LaSalle when he was 14. And I'm certain others have as well. As far as the original topic, there should be a minimum age but what that is I'm not sure. It's not only for the safety of those around the kid, but the kid themselves. It was a couple of years ago that a young girl died in Florida, I believe. In a Hornet if I recall. Their bodies just aren't developed enough, and their minds....I think 16 is too young for the street.
They said too drive a Car you MUST be 15 even if its a RACE car...
I called them and they said they state law now covers all roads .. Now even (Race Tracks) as a road but its not open too the P... but you still have too be 15 to drive a car thats what they said on the Phone when i called them...15 years a go i could drive a truck at 12 on the farm to help NOT no more...Thats what they said when i called...
They dont toss them in jail the toss them in juvy

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 05:07 PM
I was told If a cop sees you driving a car and say you on your farm and you under 15 the cop CAN give you a T.. Thats what I was told....

Crashmagnet
02-28-2017, 06:03 PM
Definately believe in age limits ages 16-75

Highside Hustler25
02-28-2017, 06:06 PM
Maybe someone from the Pierce Posse will correct me but I believe Bobby won his first Crate Late Model race at the age of 13.

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 06:22 PM
Maybe someone from the Pierce Posse will correct me but I believe Bobby won his first Crate Late Model race at the age of 13.

shire he did not get in too the Crate till he was 15... May be wrong but i think so..So I looked it up.looks like he was in his late M in 2012 at farmerCity hes 20 now was 15 when he started driving the late so he drove the crate for 1 year at 14....so he was 14 when he drove the crate...

Bubstr
02-28-2017, 08:50 PM
Seems like, if the State police have the jurisdiction to require a drivers license, they could also hand out reckless driving and speeding citations. Hey, where are your wipers and turn signal lights. Doesn't sound right at all.

Cardirt0
02-28-2017, 11:07 PM
Seems like, if the State police have the jurisdiction to require a drivers license, they could also hand out reckless driving and speeding citations. Hey, where are your wipers and turn signal lights. Doesn't sound right at all.

If they drive them on the street yes on a track no....Window is not required but then you must wear eye P....so Wipers are not required if no window on the street...they said you dont need a Driver license you just need to be 15 to get in a car on a race track.. But said some race cars are not Cars so then you can drive it under 15 like a Kart or Bmod... just what they said....The guy may work there and not know what he saying but thats what he said...

Racefan-00-01-F1
03-05-2017, 09:48 AM
Well went to cherokee speedway yesterday and watched a "12YEAR OLD CHILD" drive thru a wreck in turn one and straight into the wall and never let off the gas. Very violent crash! Really though the litter guy was going to be hurt bad. just like everyone else I agree there should be a age limit!

stevensracing_6
03-09-2017, 09:28 PM
To much car for a kid. I started in mini stock when I was 12. And you figure a little body taking an impact at late model speed is probably fairly fragile. It wouldn't be my kid out there I can tell you that much I won't even let him in a kart