Billy Moyer

[Shiny Side Up 18]

It sounds like Billy Moyer is going to run 50+ races this year, with some Hell Tour races included. So much for scaling back lol.https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17309125_10101369268223004_3870524637448070452_n.j pg?oh=ca5fa17949fc5e53452b1390d779c019&oe=5926FE7D

[MI Dirt Fan]

I saw Jr. post on Twitter just recently they were looking for what sounded like full time help for both operations. Seems like they are always looking for help........

[fryefan]

Good to hear. Billy should race as much as he wants to.

[LeafMaster41]

It sounds like Billy Moyer is going to run 50+ races this year, with some Hell Tour races included. So much for scaling back lol.https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17309125_10101369268223004_3870524637448070452_n.j pg?oh=ca5fa17949fc5e53452b1390d779c019&oe=5926FE7D

50 races for Billy is scaling back since he usually ran upwards of 70-80 races a season in years past, with a peak in 08' of 91 races entered.

[zyoung25]

I know he isn't well liked on here, I've always been a fan of his driving style. I for one am glad to see he still has the fire to compete. I think we all knew he wouldn't just drop it cold turkey, this is all the man knows.

[TackyTracker]

is there some kind of special milestone he's trying to get to maybe??

he loves it and doesn't want to quit??

[plunks7]

It sounds like Billy Moyer is going to run 50+ races this year, with some Hell Tour races included. So much for scaling back lol.https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17309125_10101369268223004_3870524637448070452_n.j pg?oh=ca5fa17949fc5e53452b1390d779c019&oe=5926FE7D

Crap, Crap and tons more of Crap!!!!!

[plunks7]

I saw Jr. post on Twitter just recently they were looking for what sounded like full time help for both operations. Seems like they are always looking for help........

They both should try bowling leagues to find help!!! :) They would find plenty of peeps just like them their.

[plunks7]

50 races for Billy is scaling back since he usually ran upwards of 70-80 races a season in years past, with a peak in 08' of 91 races entered.

He's won't be scaling back. He will run 20 to 30 races where no one has heard of. The King of CP could show up at a track near you!!!!!

[MI Dirt Fan]

They both should try bowling leagues to find help!!! :) They would find plenty of peeps just like them their.

Seems as though they are always advertising for help.

[zach51]

If Billy SR (aka Billy JR the 1st) is into consulting and selling his chassis, showing up at local 2k and 3k shows to maybe win enough to pay for the trip and provide some support to his existing customers and possibly gain some more, that is smart business. Some people can't get over the cherry-picking. Call it what you want. If old man wants to race, go race. I doubt he is worried about what you think.

[pink floyd]

good luck to him, hope he wins them all.

[gman17]

I like moyer when i was younger and wrote for the local paper in my town he was the 1st traveler i interviewed.

[LeafMaster41]

He's won't be scaling back. He will run 20 to 30 races where no one has heard of. The King of CP could show up at a track near you!!!!!

If they don't want their cherries picked they shouldn't offer them out. Otherwise, sack up like a man and race or shut up and stay home with the sissy's. Their choice.

[fryefan]

They both should try bowling leagues to find help!!! :) They would find plenty of peeps just like them their.

Why are you so down on the Moyers? Is it a jealousy thing or are you tired of seeing Senior win so many races over the years?

[plunks7]

Why are you so down on the Moyers? Is it a jealousy thing or are you tired of seeing Senior win so many races over the years?

I don't mind Jr. Jr. It all started back when I was young that I didn't care for Jr. Just plain and simply do not like him. And yes it said on his cars Billy Moyer Jr. back then!!!

[zyoung25]

And yes it said on his cars Billy Moyer Jr. back then!!!

I've seen it on event shirts, and remember hearing it through the loud speaker. Ive looked through hundreds of pics and cannot find one car anywhere that says Moyer Jr on it.

Is there actual picture evidence of this?

[zyoung25]

http://i63.tinypic.com/4scydw.jpg

One of the oldest pics of i have found, and it clearly says Moyer right across the windshield and above the door.

[Dante Toledo, OH]

He's won't be scaling back. He will run 20 to 30 races where no one has heard of. The King of CP could show up at a track near you!!!!!The king of cherry picking as you call him, also has 6 World 100's and has won almost every other crown jewel race they have. Multiple Lucas, wins Outlaws wins, he run and won in almost every series in the country. If he is not in your top 3 drivers of all time in a late model, I would be interested to know who you would rank ahead of him.

[LeafMaster41]

The king of cherry picking as you call him, also has 6 World 100's and has won almost every other crown jewel race they have. Multiple Lucas, wins Outlaws wins, he run and won in almost every series in the country. If he is not in your top 3 drivers of all time in a late model, I would be interested to know who you would rank ahead of him.

My thoughts exactly.

[rickybrown1952]

The king of cherry picking as you call him, also has 6 World 100's and has won almost every other crown jewel race they have. Multiple Lucas, wins Outlaws wins, he run and won in almost every series in the country. If he is not in your top 3 drivers of all time in a late model, I would be interested to know who you would rank ahead of him.Cherry picking I don't think so myself I would probably put him at #1 in dirt late model racing a lot more wins than that other guy hmmm what is his name?

[ptown]

Cherry picking I don't think so myself I would probably put him at #1 in dirt late model racing a lot more wins than that other guy hmmm what is his name?

You mean snort the tire juicer.

[LeafMaster41]

You mean snort the tire juicer.

I like that nickname, "Snort" that's funny. Personally, I think Cherry picking is a myth, it doesn't exist. The one's who claim cherry picking are really just saying they don't think much of their favorite local drivers. They probably like to give out trophies to everyone who showed up as well.

[Krooser]

Buck Snort... Good name.

[Waldo]

I have a collection of 1992 dirt track racing cards, and in that collection I have 2 Billy Moyer cards.
One card has his name spelled Billy Moyer.
The second card has his name spelled Billy Moyers jr.
This is the way it is spelled on the two cards and it is the same guy.

[Clayton_Wetter]

http://www.ourhappyacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mecherrypicking.jpg

[COKEandaSMILE]

Cherry picking does exist. Never understood why some are so sensitive to the term.

[tigwelder]

i heard that when plunks was younger Billy Moyer knocked him on his a.. at a race track.

[LeafMaster41]

Cherry picking does exist. Never understood why some are so sensitive to the term.

You either showed up ready to race or you didn't. Everybody runs under the same rules...

[COKEandaSMILE]

You either showed up ready to race or you didn't. Everybody runs under the same rules...
Rules have nothing to do with cherry picking, nor does being ready to race.

[over4T]

Billy's done this for a living for decades and won about every big show there is, several multiple times, and has nothing to prove. If he pops up at a smaller race to promote or test his latest brand so what? It's actually good for the local racer to see where he can improve his game and, if they listen to the master, learn something. They may not like losing out on a possible win but overall it's to their benefit. Rock on Billy.

[rickybrown1952]

Billy's done this for a living for decades and won about every big show there is, several multiple times, and has nothing to prove. If he pops up at a smaller race to promote or test his latest brand so what? It's actually good for the local racer to see where he can improve his game and, if they listen to the master, learn something. They may not like losing out on a possible win but overall it's to their benefit. Rock on Billy.I totally agree

[plunks7]

i heard that when plunks was younger Billy Moyer knocked him on his a.. at a race track.

That DEFINATLY never happened!!!!!

[dirty-white-boy]

http://www.ourhappyacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mecherrypicking.jpg

Now that is funny! I respect Billy's talent but his scaling back means he will run head to head with real competition even less. But hey whatever, Little Bobby did it last year too. Someone has to win those races too!

I just wish these racers would just quit saying they are going to quit and actually quit!

[LeafMaster41]

Rules have nothing to do with cherry picking, nor does being ready to race.

How about you define "Cherry Picking" for us?

[plunks7]

How about you define "Cherry Picking" for us?

Billy Moyer Jr. how many times and years do we have to tell you!!!!!!!

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Plunks is that a pic of you pickn those cherries! Lol

[a25rjr]

http://www.ourhappyacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/mecherrypicking.jpg

Billy.....Is that you hidin behind the bush?

[Kwd1253]

The Billy haters have to make new thread every 3-4 months. For people who hate him so much, you all ride on top of his nutts more than his fans do lol.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

The Billy haters have to make new thread every 3-4 months. For people who hate him so much, you all ride on top of his nutts more than his fans do lol.

So you a hater or a fan?

[COKEandaSMILE]

How about you define "Cherry Picking" for us?
Quite simply, it is a driver of a certain caliber having an option of participating in 2 or more shows. Those shows are within similar distances.

That driver, chooses to participate at the show that is considered to be of lesser competition.

There's nothing wrong with cherry picking. It's a sound financial decision on occasion. It's a compliment, really.

As you can see, my definition had nothing to do with rules or being ready to race. If you agree with my definition, then by default, you agree cherry picking exists.

If you do not agree with my definition, then I'd be interested in hearing your definition of something you believe is non existent......

[Kwd1253]

So you a hater or a fan?

Go through all my history post, you find out which one I am lol.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Go through all my history post, you find out which one I am lol.


I dont have that much time on my hands!
I was just wondering if you were on top or underneath. Thats all. Lol

[LeafMaster41]

Quite simply, it is a driver of a certain caliber having an option of participating in 2 or more shows. Those shows are within similar distances.

That driver, chooses to participate at the show that is considered to be of lesser competition.

There's nothing wrong with cherry picking. It's a sound financial decision on occasion. It's a compliment, really.

As you can see, my definition had nothing to do with rules or being ready to race. If you agree with my definition, then by default, you agree cherry picking exists.

If you do not agree with my definition, then I'd be interested in hearing your definition of something you believe is non existent......

Cherry Picking exists only as a term of insult. It's meant to say that a racer essentially went and raced against a bunch of nobody's and stole their money, ie. "stealing candy from a baby". Your definition is merely the wise and responsible way of racing for a living when you're paying the bills.

For Billy(Batesville, AR) most of the time the distance to stiffer competition and higher purses was far greater than running the lesser paying events typical of the midwest. Most big paying super late model events are in the East and Southeast, with a few notable exceptions(Eldora, Lucas Oil) and Billy usually attends those.

[zach51]

I have a feeling he is going to be ready to go and just fine in a few weeks when Lucas rolls into Batesville for 20k.

Also wouldn't be surprised if he wins 1 or 2 of those WOO races next weekend. He is usually good at Whynot and has a ton of laps around I-30 being close to home. We'll see!

[COKEandaSMILE]

If you agree with my definition, by default, you agree cherry picking exists.

Spin it however you wish, belittle other drivers, label it with a term that you prefer. None of that changes the fact.

I doubt any driver is insulted by being called a cherry picker. Fans of that driver, as proven here, do get their feelings hurt, however.

[zach51]

A flip side of cherry picking that we haven't discussed is when it goes wrong, which happens a lot. It can be tough to outrun a local here or there, and that isn't a good feeling when you run 10th in a local 3-5k and get paid $300. Not a good ego stroke.

[MI Dirt Fan]

A flip side of cherry picking that we haven't discussed is when it goes wrong, which happens a lot. It can be tough to outrun a local here or there, and that isn't a good feeling when you run 10th in a local 3-5k and get paid $300. Not a good ego stroke.

That's where the "just testing" excuse comes into play.

[RCJ]

If your hauler and car cost more than 80% of the fields combined.I 've raced against cars that even if they win they are loosing money.That is cheery picking

[zach51]

I'd venture to guess probably 95% of teams running SLM's are losing money even if they win once a month. That number may be low.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

You mean snort the tire juicer.Do you ever say anything remotely positive? You've got to be a women, should take another Midol.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Cherry picking I don't think so myself I would probably put him at #1 in dirt late model racing a lot more wins than that other guy hmmm what is his name?I'd put the two you mentioned neck and neck. Wouldn't put down one over the other. Both have more than paid there dues and should be respected for that.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Number one, he is not Jr or Sr, he is Billy Moyer.

Second, why try and put him down? He is a HoF, and one of the best ever. At his level, there's very few you can put in his category. Just respect him, and unless you're paying his bills, he can run wherever he dam well pleases. He has traveled the country for a long dam time. If he wants to race close to home, he has earned it ten times over. Dunno why those on here put down Moyer or Bloomer, well besides ignorance.

[Josh Bayko]

I highly doubt that Billy Moyer cares if folks think he's a "cherry picker".

[Bubstr]

For Billy(Batesville, AR) most of the time the distance to stiffer competition and higher purses was far greater than running the lesser paying events typical of the midwest. Most big paying super late model events are in the East and Southeast, with a few notable exceptions(Eldora, Lucas Oil) and Billy usually attends those.

Really? Purses are higher in the east and south? With a few exceptions like the North South and a handful of specials that pay more than 5k. On a average I can go to 3 10k races a month and never go east of Ohio or south of Illinois, once the season gets rolling. I and a lot of race fans from the Midwest know why so many racers in Iowa, Missouri and Illinois never travel far. I love Cherry picking. These local guys need the competition. They get stuck in a rutt, just cherry picking. Billy Moyer very rarely runs his car for less than 5k. Bobby Pierce will run a few races under 5k, but just to lock the UMP points title. Babb is usually a 5k and up racer, as most of the well known Iowa, MO. and IL. drivers

[Waldo]

Zach51, I have a question, not trying to be funny, but if 95% of latemodel teams are losing money racing, how can they race for a living?

[zach51]

Zach51, I have a question, not trying to be funny, but if 95% of latemodel teams are losing money racing, how can they race for a living?
Some drivers and a few select crew here or there may be making money but that doesn't mean the team as a whole is.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Zach51, I have a question, not trying to be funny, but if 95% of latemodel teams are losing money racing, how can they race for a living?

The drivers who don't own the stuff are making money. Most everyone else is not.