Dirtcar Summernationals drivers?

[Crossbones]

Whos planning on running the whole series?

[thexfactor0210]

Bobby Pierce
Gordy Gundaker

[DTS86]

I miss having some of the national tour guys on the summernats fulltime. Sheppard, Shirley, Erb, Heckenast

[427c.i.]

Another thing UMP has gone completely out of control with. Go back to 20 races in 21 days with sensible travel and you would get more drivers following it.

[gman17]

Not a pierce fan by any means but might as well give him the check and title. Jmo

[ptown]

Too much zig zagging from track to track.

[Josh Bayko]

Another thing UMP has gone completely out of control with. Go back to 20 races in 21 days with sensible travel and you would get more drivers following it.

The original Summernationals was like 12 races in 15 days or something. It got super bloated over the years. They need to get back to 12-15 races or so and they'll get the followers for the full deal.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

The original Summernationals was like 12 races in 15 days or something. It got super bloated over the years. They need to get back to 12-15 races or so and they'll get the followers for the full deal.Agreed. That's just too much for most people, especially when the touring guys have their series. I mean, who can go to their employer and be like, umm yeah, I'm going to be taking off like a months worth of work in the middle of the summer. Good luck with that one.

[Phatdaddy]

I agree with ptown. Guess I understand the strategy though. Many fans can't do consecutive nights, but they can do a race this week, and maybe catch them at another area track (if they come back through) the following week.

[ptown]

Agreed. That's just too much for most people, especially when the touring guys have their series. I mean, who can go to their employer and be like, umm yeah, I'm going to be taking off like a months worth of work in the middle of the summer. Good luck with that one.

That's why they need to get tracks close coordinated like before. Tuesday LaSalle, Wednesday Spoon River, Thursday Macon, Friday Farmer City, Saturday Fairbury etc. Then a local driver could ask for a week off and make it to at least those tracks.

[turnleftandgasit]

Running them all in a line like that depletes the fans in that area. Most fans can't afford to hit them all in one week, but can hit them all over a 3 week period. Catch 22 in my opinion.

[turnleftandgasit]

I live in the middle of those mentioned tracks and I would have 125 at the gate, 80 plus dollars in gas, and have my longest drives home during the week. Add in food and what not, your around 300 dollars with no drinks. For those that partake.......500 dollar week easy.

[CRK]

That's why they need to get tracks close coordinated like before. Tuesday LaSalle, Wednesday Spoon River, Thursday Macon, Friday Farmer City, Saturday Fairbury etc. Then a local driver could ask for a week off and make it to at least those tracks.Have you looked at the schedule this year? They cut out a ton of miles and made each week more regional.

[Shiny Side Up 18]

I'd love to see it pay more than $15,000 to win the title.

[Highside Hustler25]

I can think of 6 guys that have run the tour that are now traveling with a touring series. Some Hell Tour competitors have moved up the ranks to the big time. That is one thing that has hurt the count.
Then you have guys like Babb and Feger who don't plan on running the whole tour until one goes on a hot streak and is at the top in points. That sometimes changes things.
This seems to be the topic of discussion every year. Funny thing is, the tour goes on year after year. I attend 10-12 shows every year and the shows I see seem to be doing fine. Think what you want. The racers thrive for the opportunity to race this many times in a short period for a lot more money than they can race for at their local tracks. Nobody is forced to race, but the cars still show up. That tells ya something there.

[cgrace]

UMP hurts themselves starting Wed at Brownstown just 4 days after Dream. most guys dont have crew or $$$ to do 3 days at Eldora and start again in 4 days. IMO start and finish in Illinois best chance to have the most cars throughout the series. Oakshade gets lots of cars, but they will without SN too for bday race

[427c.i.]

The original Summernationals was like 12 races in 15 days or something. It got super bloated over the years. They need to get back to 12-15 races or so and they'll get the followers for the full deal.

http://www.thehelltour.com/history

I suggest go back to around 1998/99 and tweak that schedule and you'd have guys do the whole thing.

[BirkyTime15B]

Purses suck and point fund even worse. It's a very watered down version of what it once was. But I'll still be in the stands at Farley.

[birky time]

I live in the middle of those mentioned tracks and I would have 125 at the gate, 80 plus dollars in gas, and have my longest drives home during the week. Add in food and what not, your around 300 dollars with no drinks. For those that partake.......500 dollar week easy.

If they would charge 12$ general admission like oakshade would more fans go?

[zach51]

Just my opinion, but I think it is reckless to assume that anything with WRG attached to it is really worried about what would be best for the "fans", based on past history.

[Phatdaddy]

Just my opinion, but I think it is reckless to assume that anything with WRG attached to it is really worried about what would be best for the "fans", based on past history.

this ^^^^^ love it!

[ILL-DIRTDOG]

The weekend shows (10K TW) are good but the shows during the week (5k TW) usually consist of each tracks regulars and the few drivers doing the whole tour....Make all shows 10K to win to entice more bigger names to want to race during the week as well and follow the whole thing also.

[kidrock]

If you want the big dogs to run the whole tour then they are gonna have to increase the championship money. If they want bigger car counts they are gonna have to make all shows 10,000 and good start money. Run Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday for 4 weeks.

[latemodelfan]

I'd love to see it pay more than $15,000 to win the title.

Doesn't it pay 20 or 25K?

[J20in1st]

Agreed. That's just too much for most people, especially when the touring guys have their series. I mean, who can go to their employer and be like, umm yeah, I'm going to be taking off like a months worth of work in the middle of the summer. Good luck with that one.

What if i plow snow for a job!!?

[MI Dirt Fan]

Doesn't it pay 20 or 25K?

No. It's $15k

[Illtsate32]

4 Nights a week through June-July 10k a race 30,000 for points champion...build it and they will come..

[J20in1st]

You're unemployed.

Most days i wish

[Scott Boesel]

I remember back in the day if you won over half of the races you got a $100,000 bonus Iam not sure if they still do that or not

[Shiny Side Up 18]

Jose Parga has the whole SN on his schedule.

[Highside Hustler25]

add Billy Moyer Jr.Jr.

[Zonks32x]

Think Brent Larson is doing the tour

[Zonks32x]

Would like to see AJ Diemel...too busy building cars at Mars shop though.

Yaggy maybe?

[TackyTracker]

Steve Francis would be interesting

[Highside Hustler25]

Not the whole tour but Cadillac Jack will be at certain events:cool:

[MittenMadman]

Saw on his Facebook that #20 Chad White from Michigan was looking for some crews guys to do the tour with him. Although I doubt it'll happen

[Shiny Side Up 18]

Add Bob Gardner.

[KBM18fan]

Nobody has mentioned that the point winner's payout will now be $25000.00

[MI Dirt Fan]

Haven't seen that on the website

[KBM18fan]

It's posted on DoD, MDF

[MI Dirt Fan]

I don't subscribe to it.