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dirtdobber45
09-19-2017, 09:18 PM
So Im not hijacking someone elses post. Heres Jeff Purvis dlm wins.. 1989 MLRA win/Muskogee Okla.1989 MLRA win/Monett Mo.1989 MLRA win/Fayetteville Ark.Jeff Purvis/Clarksville, Tenn./retiredOver 350 career feature wins1983-84-86 World 100 winner1994-85 NDRA Natl. Series Champion1986 Southern All-Stars Series Champion1982-83-85 National 100/Phenix City Ala.1987-89 North-South 100/Florence Ky.1977 Twin-Quarter Special/Middle Tenn. Speedway1977 Jaycees Race/Barren Co. Ky.1985-86-87 Hall of Fame 100/Atomic Tenn.1980 Taylor Co. Ky. 601982 Spring 50/Talladega Short Track1982 Newport Tenn. 751982 Kentucky Classic/Barren Co. Ky.1982 Milan Tenn. 501982 Labor Day Classic/Barren Co. Ky1981-82-83 Tommy Noblin Mem. Race/Talladega Short Track1983 Spring 100/Concord N.C.1983 DDRA 40/Waycross Ga.1983 Bull Durham/Shorty Bowers 50/Hagerstown Md.1983 SAS RPM Enterprises 50/Talladega Short Track1983 NDRA Free State 100/Hagerstown Md.1983 Newport Auto Parts 50/Newport Tenn.1984 2-wins Jax ASCoC Jacksonville Fla.1984 2-wins Champion World Series of Dirt Racing/Volusia Co. Fla.1984 NDRA Spring Nationals/Woodstock Ga.1984 NASCAR Diet Coke 50/Talladega Short Track1984 NDRA 50 win/Wichita Kans.1984 NDRA RHS Nationals/Verona Miss.1984 Firecracker 100/Tazewell Tenn.1984 Winchester Tenn. 501984 NDRA Edelbrock Nationals/Atomic Tenn.1984 NDRA Dodge Dixie Nationals/Woodstock Ga,1984 National Dirt Track Championship/Ill. State Fair Mile1984 STARS Hoosier Dirt Classic/Brownstown Ind.1984 USA World 50/Paducah Ky.1984 NDRA US Dirt Invitational/I-70 Missouri1984 NDRA 75 win/Cordele Ga.1985 2-wins Jax ASCoC/Jacksonville Fla.1985 East Bay Fla. Nationals1985 Volusia Co. Fla. Speedweek win1985 Hall of Fame 100/Atomic Tenn.1985 NDRA win/Spencer Miss.1985 NDRA win/Atomic Tenn.1985 NDRA Dutch Treats 100/Hudson N.C.1985 STARS 50/Pennsboro W. Va.1985 NDRA Night Flight Conversion 100/Sharon Ohio1985 Dutch Treats Mudslinger 100/Flint Mich.1985 STARS Winchester Va. 2001985 STARS Chenowith Ford Clash/Pennsboro W. Va.1986 Jax 50/Jacksonville Fla.1986 Volusia Co. Fla. Speedweek win1986 USAC Jamboree LM win/Lebanon Mo.1986 USAC Jamboree LM win Monett Mo.1986 STARS Alpha-Alpine 100/Orrville Ohio1986 Stanley Schetrompf Mem./Hagerstown Md.1986 Milan Tenn. 501986 NASCAR SAS 50/Talledaga Short Track1986 Spencer 50/Verona Miss.1986 Lake Cumberland 100/Somerset Ky.1986 RHS Rebel 100/Winchester Tenn.1986 Hagerstown Md. Speedweek win1986 Windy Hollow Bluegrass 50/Owensboro Ky.1986 STARS Buckeye Nationals/Orrville Ohio1986 Bluegrass 50/Windy Hollow Ky.1986 Concord N.C. 1001986 UMP W. Va. State points champion1987 2-wins PROS Fla. Gold Cup Series/Ocala Fla.1987 ASCoC Granite City Ill. 501987 Plateau 100/Crossville Tenn.1987 Cotton Boll LM Spring Special/Byhalia Miss.1987 STARS Gross Lumber 50/Orrville Ohio1987 STARS Alpa Alpine 100/Orrville Ohio1987 Outlaw City 100/McMinnville Tenn.1987 NASCAR SAS 50/Crossville Tenn.1987 PROS win/Parkersburg W. Va.1987 PROS win/Interstate W. Va.1987 Firecracker LM 100/Smokey Mt. Tenn.1987 Duck River Pepsi 50/Wheel Tenn.1987 NASCAR SAS Busch Bash/Hudson N.C.1987 NASCAR Busch All-Star 50/Hudson N.C.1987 Taylor Co. Ky. 501987 Barren Co. Ky. 501987 S.C. State Championship Race/Cherokee S.C.1987 I-85 S.C. Invitational1987 Hartwell Ga. LM Invitational1987 Jack Zieg Mem./Taylor Co. Ky.1987 STARS Ohio State Dirt Championship/Stewart Ohio1987 Budweiser LM Invitational 100/Kingsport Tenn.1987 Pantry Store World Race of Champions/Parkersburg W. Va.1988 ASCoC Weekend sweep/Granite City Ill.1988 Volunteer 100/Bulls Gap Tenn.1988 STARS W. Va. LM Nationals Hardee’s 100/Pennsboro W. Va.1988 UMP Bluegrass Dirt Championship/Taylor Co. Ky.1988 SAS 50/Crossville Tenn.1988 SAS 50/Tenn. Motor Speedway1988 Duck River Pepsi 50/Wheel Tenn.1988 Concord N.C. 2001988 SAS Cotton Boll 50/Byhalia Miss.1988 Rebel 100/Winchester Tenn.1989 ASCoC East Bay Fla. Nationals win1989 World Series of Dirt win/Volusia Co. Fla.1989 SAS 50/Cleveland Tenn.1989 Jackson 100/Brownstown Ind.1989 KSHE UMP Stock Car Classic/Granite City Ill.1989 PROS UMP National Championship 75/Brownstown Ind.1989 Shamrock Chevrolet Southern 100/Milton Fla.

dirtdobber45
09-19-2017, 09:22 PM
Sorry its all bunched up. Idk why but it always does that. Plus it wouldnt let me edit.

dirtcrazy4u
09-19-2017, 09:25 PM
And you posted this why ?

zyoung25
09-19-2017, 09:35 PM
It was being discussed in another thread what all he had won.

Chris Thomason
09-19-2017, 09:38 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post this DD. Its is the history lesson MDF, me, and prob some others needed apparently. The 2006 I-65 hauler crash happened not 20 minutes from my place.

golddirt
09-19-2017, 09:42 PM
Thank you very much

biglaud32
09-19-2017, 10:28 PM
The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be!!! Bloomer and Moyer are without a question in the conversation and debatable but.... It's like all these young kids saying this person that and whatever is better then Jordan! Jordans untouchable on and off the court!

billetbirdcage
09-19-2017, 10:32 PM
Lets see if this edit works

Heres Jeff Purvis dlm wins..
1989 MLRA win/Muskogee Okla.
1989 MLRA win/Monett Mo.
1989 MLRA win/Fayetteville Ark.
Jeff Purvis/Clarksville, Tenn./retiredOver 350 career feature wins
1983-84-86 World 100 winner
1994-85 NDRA Natl. Series Champion
1986 Southern All-Stars Series Champion
1982-83-85 National 100/Phenix City Ala.
1987-89 North-South 100/Florence Ky.
1977 Twin-Quarter Special/Middle Tenn. Speedway
1977 Jaycees Race/Barren Co. Ky.
1985-86-87 Hall of Fame 100/Atomic Tenn.
1980 Taylor Co. Ky. 601982 Spring 50/Talladega Short Track
1982 Newport Tenn. 751982 Kentucky Classic/Barren Co. Ky.
1982 Milan Tenn. 501982 Labor Day Classic/Barren Co. Ky
1981-82-83 Tommy Noblin Mem. Race/Talladega Short Track
1983 Spring 100/Concord N.C.1983 DDRA 40/Waycross Ga.
1983 Bull Durham/Shorty Bowers 50/Hagerstown Md.
1983 SAS RPM Enterprises 50/Talladega Short Track
1983 NDRA Free State 100/Hagerstown Md.
1983 Newport Auto Parts 50/Newport Tenn.
1984 2-wins Jax ASCoC Jacksonville Fla.
1984 2-wins Champion World Series of Dirt Racing/Volusia Co. Fla.
1984 NDRA Spring Nationals/Woodstock Ga.
1984 NASCAR Diet Coke 50/Talladega Short Track
1984 NDRA 50 win/Wichita Kans.1984 NDRA RHS Nationals/Verona Miss.
1984 Firecracker 100/Tazewell Tenn.
1984 Winchester Tenn. 501984 NDRA Edelbrock Nationals/Atomic Tenn.
1984 NDRA Dodge Dixie Nationals/Woodstock Ga,
1984 National Dirt Track Championship/Ill. State Fair Mile
1984 STARS Hoosier Dirt Classic/Brownstown Ind.
1984 USA World 50/Paducah Ky.
1984 NDRA US Dirt Invitational/I-70 Missouri
1984 NDRA 75 win/Cordele Ga.
1985 2-wins Jax ASCoC/Jacksonville Fla.
1985 East Bay Fla. Nationals
1985 Volusia Co. Fla. Speedweek win
1985 Hall of Fame 100/Atomic Tenn.1985 NDRA win/Spencer Miss.
1985 NDRA win/Atomic Tenn.
1985 NDRA Dutch Treats 100/Hudson N.C.
1985 STARS 50/Pennsboro W. Va.
1985 NDRA Night Flight Conversion 100/Sharon Ohio
1985 Dutch Treats Mudslinger 100/Flint Mich.
1985 STARS Winchester Va. 2001985 STARS Chenowith Ford Clash/Pennsboro W. Va.
1986 Jax 50/Jacksonville Fla.1986 Volusia Co. Fla. Speedweek win
1986 USAC Jamboree LM win/Lebanon Mo.
1986 USAC Jamboree LM win Monett Mo.
1986 STARS Alpha-Alpine 100/Orrville Ohio
1986 Stanley Schetrompf Mem./Hagerstown Md.
1986 Milan Tenn. 501986 NASCAR SAS 50/Talledaga Short Track
1986 Spencer 50/Verona Miss.
1986 Lake Cumberland 100/Somerset Ky.
1986 RHS Rebel 100/Winchester Tenn.
1986 Hagerstown Md. Speedweek win
1986 Windy Hollow Bluegrass 50/Owensboro Ky.
1986 STARS Buckeye Nationals/Orrville Ohio
1986 Bluegrass 50/Windy Hollow Ky.1986 Concord N.C. 100
1986 UMP W. Va. State points champion1987 2-wins PROS Fla. Gold Cup Series/Ocala Fla.
1987 ASCoC Granite City Ill. 501987 Plateau 100/Crossville Tenn.
1987 Cotton Boll LM Spring Special/Byhalia Miss.
1987 STARS Gross Lumber 50/Orrville Ohio
1987 STARS Alpa Alpine 100/Orrville Ohio
1987 Outlaw City 100/McMinnville Tenn.
1987 NASCAR SAS 50/Crossville Tenn.
1987 PROS win/Parkersburg W. Va.
1987 PROS win/Interstate W. Va.
1987 Firecracker LM 100/Smokey Mt. Tenn.
1987 Duck River Pepsi 50/Wheel Tenn.
1987 NASCAR SAS Busch Bash/Hudson N.C.
1987 NASCAR Busch All-Star 50/Hudson N.C.
1987 Taylor Co. Ky. 501987 Barren Co. Ky. 501987 S.C. State Championship Race/Cherokee S.C.1987 I-85 S.C. Invitational
1987 Hartwell Ga. LM Invitational
1987 Jack Zieg Mem./Taylor Co. Ky.
1987 STARS Ohio State Dirt Championship/Stewart Ohio
1987 Budweiser LM Invitational 100/Kingsport Tenn.
1987 Pantry Store World Race of Champions/Parkersburg W. Va.
1988 ASCoC Weekend sweep/Granite City Ill.
1988 Volunteer 100/Bulls Gap Tenn.
1988 STARS W. Va. LM Nationals Hardee’s 100/Pennsboro W. Va.
1988 UMP Bluegrass Dirt Championship/Taylor Co. Ky.
1988 SAS 50/Crossville Tenn.
1988 SAS 50/Tenn. Motor Speedway
1988 Duck River Pepsi 50/Wheel Tenn.
1988 Concord N.C. 200
1988 SAS Cotton Boll 50/Byhalia Miss.
1988 Rebel 100/Winchester Tenn.
1989 ASCoC East Bay Fla. Nationals win
1989 World Series of Dirt win/Volusia Co. Fla.
1989 SAS 50/Cleveland Tenn.
1989 Jackson 100/Brownstown Ind.
1989 KSHE UMP Stock Car Classic/Granite City Ill.
1989 PROS UMP National Championship 75/Brownstown Ind.
1989 Shamrock Chevrolet Southern 100/Milton Fla.

dirtdobber45
09-19-2017, 10:45 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post this DD. Its is the history lesson MDF, me, and prob some others needed apparently. The 2006 I-65 hauler crash happened not 20 minutes from my place.
Thank you very muchYall are welcomed

cgrace
09-19-2017, 11:14 PM
thanks for posting the list. impressive

One Man Gang
09-19-2017, 11:15 PM
Up toward top of list it has 1977 twin quarter special at Middle Tenn Speedway. Where was this track at in middle Tn ? New one on me or it has underwent a name change.

TackyTracker
09-20-2017, 01:00 AM
great job just wondering if Purvis ever raced at Santa Fe

Pennsboro23
09-20-2017, 07:39 AM
That's a very impressive win list. I have Bloomer and Moyer ahead of him, however had he stayed in dirt and raced for as long as them, he would be right there with them or ahead of them.

Duke100
09-20-2017, 08:10 AM
great job just wondering if Purvis ever raced at Santa FeI don't think so. I would have remembered that. I was at Volusia 1984 and remember Purvis bent up the front end of the car. I go in the pits with my Dad and his buddy and Purvis is under the car with the torches fixing it himself. Sparks flying everywhere. Then a dozen years later I go to the big shows and there is Bloomquist endlessly grinding away on tires. Guys that put in the hard work on their cars are the guys who are on top of their game.

dirtdobber45
09-20-2017, 08:40 AM
I don't think so. I would have remembered that. I was at Volusia 1984 and remember Purvis bent up the front end of the car. I go in the pits with my Dad and his buddy and Purvis is under the car with the torches fixing it himself. Sparks flying everywhere. Then a dozen years later I go to the big shows and there is Bloomquist endlessly grinding away on tires. Guys that put in the hard work on their cars are the guys who are on top of their game.Well said bud

MI Dirt Fan
09-20-2017, 09:09 AM
Thanks....

dirtdobber45
09-20-2017, 09:54 AM
Up toward top of list it has 1977 twin quarter special at Middle Tenn Speedway. Where was this track at in middle Tn ? New one on me or it has underwent a name change.I googled it and it keeps referring to Nashville speedway. Idk

MI Dirt Fan
09-20-2017, 11:22 AM
Does he still race? Says on Wikipedia he races crates at Golden Isles but I don't know how up to date that was

racingfool32
09-20-2017, 11:53 AM
That's a very impressive win list. I have Bloomer and Moyer ahead of him, however had he stayed in dirt and raced for as long as them, he would be right there with them or ahead of them.

I agree he was just starting to get good when he moved on to asphalt.

One Man Gang
09-20-2017, 12:18 PM
Thank you DD45

zyoung25
09-20-2017, 12:40 PM
That's a very impressive win list. I have Bloomer and Moyer ahead of him, however had he stayed in dirt and raced for as long as them, he would be right there with them or ahead of them.

I can agree with that to an extent. I'm always amazed by the guys like him that just kinda showed up out of nowhere and kicked everyone's @ss, then moved on to bigger and better things and done well there too. The guy had natrual talent, which isn't something you much of now. Without a doubt if he would've stuck around, we wouldn't be seeing near as many 18/0 and 21's on the back these event shirts.

He was before my time, but I've done a ton of reading and research on the guy, he was a beast.

He made a short comeback around 2005 I think it was, in a crate. It didn't last very long though. His son Clay raced for a short time too, and I believe they had a crash in the hauler with the whole family in it, which destroyed everything, and burned Jeff up pretty bad. As far i know, neither have been in a car ever since then.

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-20-2017, 12:44 PM
IMO, the best I have ever seen.

a25rjr
09-20-2017, 12:45 PM
I can agree with that to an extent. I'm always amazed by the guys like him that just kinda showed up out of nowhere and kicked everyone's @ss, then moved on to bigger and better things and done well there too. The guy had natrual talent, which isn't something you much of now. Without a doubt if he would've stuck around, we wouldn't be seeing near as many 18/0 and 21's on the back these event shirts.

He was before my time, but I've done a ton of reading and research on the guy, he was a beast.

He made a short comeback around 2005 I think it was, in a crate. It didn't last very long though. His son Clay raced for a short time too, and I believe they had a crash in the hauler with the whole family in it, which destroyed everything, and burned Jeff up pretty bad. As far i know, neither have been in a car ever since then.

It never hurts to have a loaded daddy-in-law either!

ptown
09-20-2017, 12:47 PM
Saying he's the best ever is debatable but I'd surely love to see how he'd wheel today's version of the late model against the top Lucas drivers.

weatherman85
09-20-2017, 12:57 PM
Nice little read on the i-65 incident and immediate aftermath.

http://www.genewasher.com/Jeff%20Purvis_3.htm

CIRF
09-20-2017, 01:04 PM
We'll never know what sort of win record Jeff could have amassed had he remained racing the modern day generic dirt late models his whole career. Jeff is the only driver that comes from the modern day generic dirt late model division that got anything more that a mere sniff of Busch and Cup. He won several ARCA races in that divisions showcase events and he won a handful of Busch/Infinity Series races. Jeff actually led some Cup races back in the early 1990's and had several top 10's at Daytona in the Twin Qualifiers.

I was honored to have watched Jeff Purvis race many times back in his heyday and he was as good or better than anyone whoever drove a modern day generic DLM and that includes bloomy and Moyer.

Mantis
09-20-2017, 01:08 PM
^ Agree

I can remember back in the days of the open haulers and watching to see if the Imperial 15 rolled into the pits. If it did......it was almost guaranteed show over for the rest of the field.

james white
09-20-2017, 03:41 PM
All in a Rayburn,he was not a chassis hopper,we bought some steel from him the other day ,he sells metal,

dirtdobber45
09-20-2017, 04:05 PM
We'll never know what sort of win record Jeff could have amassed had he remained racing the modern day generic dirt late models his whole career. Jeff is the only driver that comes from the modern day generic dirt late model division that got anything more that a mere sniff of Busch and Cup. He won several ARCA races in that divisions showcase events and he won a handful of Busch/Infinity Series races. Jeff actually led some Cup races back in the early 1990's and had several top 10's at Daytona in the Twin Qualifiers.I was honored to have watched Jeff Purvis race many times back in his heyday and he was as good or better than anyone whoever drove a modern day generic DLM and that includes bloomy and Moyer.Well said. Ive always liked him. Good guy to talk to also. Never seemed out of touch with his fans. Loved the rivalry between him and Bloomer. Always a good show. Hate the bad luck he had.

chupp n bloomer fan
09-20-2017, 04:41 PM
Does he still race? Says on Wikipedia he races crates at Golden Isles but I don't know how up to date that wasNo. After the hauler wreck where him and his family were almost killed, he said that was it. And I don't blame him one bit. If he hadn't went to asphalt when he did, he most certainly would be right there with Moyer and Bloomer.

chupp n bloomer fan
09-20-2017, 04:44 PM
All in a Rayburn,he was not a chassis hopper,we bought some steel from him the other day ,he sells metal,He didn't stay in dirt real long, and at that time, Rayburn was thee car to be in. Now you have multiple choices that are all pretty good.

jr1216
09-20-2017, 05:41 PM
I remember watching Jeff at brownstown back in the 80s. I was always amazed he could run that high groove an inch from going off the track. I believe he would be in the conversation with zero and moyer. I also believe those 2 may not have won some of the big races they did because purvis was running asphalt. One of the nicest drivers my family has talked to and my moms favorite by a mile.

Pennsboro23
09-20-2017, 05:53 PM
I can agree with that to an extent. I'm always amazed by the guys like him that just kinda showed up out of nowhere and kicked everyone's @ss, then moved on to bigger and better things and done well there too. The guy had natrual talent, which isn't something you much of now. Without a doubt if he would've stuck around, we wouldn't be seeing near as many 18/0 and 21's on the back these event shirts.

He was before my time, but I've done a ton of reading and research on the guy, he was a beast.

He made a short comeback around 2005 I think it was, in a crate. It didn't last very long though. His son Clay raced for a short time too, and I believe they had a crash in the hauler with the whole family in it, which destroyed everything, and burned Jeff up pretty bad. As far i know, neither have been in a car ever since then.




I’m not denying his talent. At the end of the day it’s about statistics. We can’t put Purvis ahead of a 7 time Dream winner and a 6 time World 100 winner. Had he stayed in dirt racing, we could compare him to the greats, but all we can do is guess how great he would have been.

grt74
09-20-2017, 06:26 PM
jeff made it to the top of stock car racing,the other two didn't, now who was the best out of the 3, the neck injury is what finished racing for him (and yes the hauler wreck reinjured it again)
i like all 3 of the guys, but jeff made it to the big show and got payed for it, he raced for gibbs, i guess he though he was pretty good too

Pennsboro23
09-20-2017, 06:32 PM
jeff made it to the top of stock car racing,the other two didn't, now who was the best out of the 3, the neck injury is what finished racing for him (and yes the hauler wreck reinjured it again)
i like all 3 of the guys, but jeff made it to the big show and got payed for it, he raced for gibbs, i guess he though he was pretty good too

Does that make Tyler Re(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) better than the all time late model greats? We’re talking about the best late model resumes. Purvis’s isn’t better than Moyers or Bloomers. But it COULD have been. We will never know.

Highside Hustler25
09-20-2017, 06:47 PM
I'm with you.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda ! Purvis was one of the greats in a late but he chose another path. His numbers are no where near Billy's or Scott's. I could throw some other names out there with better late model credentials but we'll just leave it at those two.

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-20-2017, 06:56 PM
I'm with you.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda ! Purvis was one of the greats in a late but he chose another path. His numbers are no where near Billy's or Scott's. I could throw some other names out there with better late model credentials but we'll just leave it at those two.

Its all in how you look at it. What he did in a few years, most don't do in 30.

dirtdobber45
09-20-2017, 07:44 PM
Thank you DD45No problem bro. Always like to help

dirtdobber45
09-20-2017, 07:50 PM
Scott use to try to show up every where Jeff was. He said if your gonna race race the best thats out there. Jeff made a smart move to go to asphalt. It was better money

HoosierDirtFan
09-20-2017, 08:00 PM
Would be cool to see Bloomquist & Moyer threads like this one with all their career wins listed in order with: Date, Track, Location, Event, & Series (if it was a sanctioned race). I've seen on Bloomers website where the major wins are list. Would be cool if that were all career wins.

MI Dirt Fan
09-20-2017, 08:26 PM
Bloomquist needs to have is definitely updated. Here is the list from Moyer website

Billy Moyer has 816 feature wins (as of December 31, 2016) since he started his auto racing career in 1977 and is the only person to win the prestigious 'World 100' 6 times!!!

TITLES
8X Title Wins
Magnolia State 100 - '89, '91, '94, '95, '96, '01, '02, & '11

6X Title Wins
World 100 - '91, '93, '94, '98, '00, & '10
I-55 UMP Nationals - '93, '94, '95, '99, '02, & '05
UMP Summernationals - '93, '94, '96, '99, '01, & '03

5X Title Wins
Prairie Dirt Classic - '92, '93, '98, '08, & '10
Gopher 50 - '89, '93, '96, '00, & '01
USA Nationals - '88, '89, '90, '92, & '93

4X Title Wins
Illinois Fall Nationals - '95, '96, '97, & '00
Topless 100 - '95, '97, '02 & '05

3X Title Wins
Illini 100 - '08, '10, & '13
Wayne Coakley/Terry Egner Mem. - '90, '99, & '02
Jackson 100 - '87, '92, & '99
Muskogee Octoberfest - '92, '95, & '98
Show-Me 100 - '93, '94, & '96
Kentucky Klassic - '88, '91, & '96
Cotton Pickin' 100 - '04, '08, & '09

2X Title Wins
$100,000 Dirt Late Model Dream - '98 & '10
Red Baron Shootout - '87 & '98
Dirt Track World Championship - '86 & '96
Ralph Latham Memorial - '94 & '96
Illinois Dirt Classic - '88 & '94
USAC 4 Crown - '86 & '91
Miller 100 - '87 & '88
Miller Spooker - '83 & '86
Shamrock - '96 & '09

Key Single Title Wins
Deep Fried 75 - '16
Pepsi 50 River Days Rumble - '13
Knoxville Late Model Nationals - '10
Fed-Ex 50 - '10
O'Reilly Challenge - '08
Farmer City 50 - '08
Indiana Icebreaker - '07
Jani-King Southern Showdown - '06
Governor's Cup - '05
Tarheel 50 - '04
Duayne Hommel Benefit - '04
Pepsi 100 - '02
Hillbilly 100 - '02
Commonwealth Cup - '02
James King Memorial 100 - '01
Budweiser Spooker - '01
Kevin Roderick Memorial - '00
Starr Wars - '00
Hav-A-Tampa Dixie Shootout - '97
STARS King of the Mountains - '96
Thunder Ridge 100 - '96
Kendricks Classic - '96
66 Showdown - '96
Bonanza Produce 100 - '96
Miller Genuine Draft 200 - '91
AWARDS
7x (out of 8) Behind the Wheel "Reader's Choice Driver of the Year" Recognitions

'13 National Dirt Racing League (NDRL) Champion

'88, '89 & '05 World of Outlaws Late Model Series Champion

'02 Dirt Late Model Hall of Fame Inductee

'02 Dirt Late Model "Driver of the Year"

'93, '94, '96, '99, '01, '03 UMP Summernationals Champion

'01 Dirt Late Model Hall of Fame "Most Popular Driver"

'99 Behind the Wheel "A-Team Driver of the Year"

'97 Hav-A-Tampa Champion

'94 & '96 UMP Northern Nationals Champion

'96 Pitchin' it Sideways/Racing News Behind the Wheel "Driver of the Year"

'94 Short Track Racing Magazine "Driver of the Year"

'93-'94 Trackside Magazine "Dream Team #1 Driver"

'93 Trackside Magazine "Most Popular Driver Award"

'86-'87 USAC LM Champion

'86 USAC "Rookie of the Year"

'86 USAC "Jimmy Caruthers Award"

'84 NCRA Champion

grt74
09-20-2017, 08:37 PM
Its all in how you look at it. What he did in a few years, most don't do in 30.

i totally agree masters

thats how i looked at it, and tyler rid(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) hasn't raced cup yet that i know of,purvis just about made it on the top level until the wreck (by that i mean a top name in cup), in a childress (top equipment at the time) car he lead some as a back up driver for someone (cant remember who) and finished 2nd, tony stewart was the only other one i remember that made it to cup that ran well in late models also, unless im getting old and cant remember someone, but purvis also did it in the hay day of nascar too, when you had to be a driver, and not just bring money to the table

im with you guys i love the dirt racing but it is what it is
hey no doubt if you look at races won scott and billy are top of the food chain for dirt late models but thats not the top level of stock car racing, its all about making a living racing and cup pays the most, just the facts, and thats just my opinion

dirtdobber45
09-20-2017, 09:34 PM
If your favorite driver is in the HOF check out the new thread Ive posted

CIRF
09-20-2017, 09:41 PM
Jeff Purvis advanced to, and won races, in a couple of series that are much more highly regarded on the racing totem pole than dirt late models. He ran respectable in Cup, the undisputed top level of all of racing at the time he was there. The cars and track surfaces of those advanced series were night and day in comparison to where he made his bones to get to those series. He was talented enough to adapt with some success. Does that make him better that bloomy and Moyer in dirt late models? Nope, he advanced when the opportunity arose. But on the same token either one of those guys were ever all that remarkable in anything but dirt late models. I think we all can agree there is something to be said for that.

And, just for the record, Tony Stewart got the opportunity to advance to being an IRL and Cup champion as a result of his success in open wheel cars, not dirt late models.

Twist'EM Up
09-20-2017, 10:53 PM
Nice thread .. U brought back some memories with my dad I can still hear him say theirs that PERVIS I'm putting my money on him who u want boy?? Was that child abuse ?? Jeff always WON HE WAS AWESOME!!!

chupp n bloomer fan
09-21-2017, 04:04 AM
Scott use to try to show up every where Jeff was. He said if your gonna race race the best thats out there. Jeff made a smart move to go to asphalt. It was better moneyYep. I remember that Dobber. Exactly what he said. He wanted to race the best, and obviously he felt Purvis was it.

dirt junkie
09-21-2017, 07:57 AM
Thanks for posting this dirt dobber. I'm a Tennessee native, live 30 minutes from Clarksville, where Purvis is from. Didn't start following DLM's till 10 years ago, and have been hooked every since by the way, I've always had a interest in his accomplishments. Wish he was still in the game

dirtdobber45
09-21-2017, 08:48 AM
Thanks for posting this dirt dobber. I'm a Tennessee native, live 30 minutes from Clarksville, where Purvis is from. Didn't start following DLM's till 10 years ago, and have been hooked every since by the way, I've always had a interest in his accomplishments. Wish he was still in the gameIm on the other end of TN (near Bristol) and I can remember Purvis and Scott showing up at Kingsport and the Gap and putting on some dam good shows... memories

CIRF
09-21-2017, 09:42 AM
Ironically enough, the track where we watched Jeff Purvis the most often during his dirt late model days was Volusia during February Speedweeks. It seemed as if Purvis and Jack Boggs owned that place back in the mid to late 1980's. I don't remember Jeff running the Summernationals very often, if at all. He may have but not at the tracks we went to for the SN tour.

Jeff was very tough to beat on the big tracks in an ARCA car. We were lucky enough to watch him win at Daytona twice and Michigan 3 times. He won at Pocono in an ARCA car, too. I always hoped he'd show up at the Springfield and Du Quoin ARCA races but he never did. I gotta' believe he'd have been a terror on those dirt miles!

TS FAN
09-21-2017, 02:49 PM
IMO, the best I have ever seen.

Ditto, absolutely.

kidrock
09-21-2017, 03:12 PM
Jeff Purvis was the best dirt late model driver ever. He just moved onto to Nascar so, some don't have a clue how good in a dirt late model he was.

Pennsboro23
09-21-2017, 03:31 PM
Jeff Purvis was the best dirt late model driver ever. He just moved onto to Nascar so, some don't have a clue how good in a dirt late model he was.

Once again, nobody is denying the talent he had. He might have been the best driver to ever get in a late model, talent wise. But at the end of the day, he is not considered to be the best because he doesn't have the accomplishments in late model racing like others do. I'm not doubting that he wouldn't have, had he stayed in dirt racing. It's like saying Barry Sanders was the best running back of all time, he had more talent than anyone but he didn't stick around long enough to eclipse the statistics that Scott and Billy have.

Clayton_Wetter
09-21-2017, 04:33 PM
The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be!!! Bloomer and Moyer are without a question in the conversation and debatable but.... It's like all these young kids saying this person that and whatever is better then Jordan! Jordans untouchable on and off the court!

That is a fringe opinion by some fans that think he was the best. Actually, there is nothing to back it up. If he had stuck around and made a career out of it then there would be something to compare. I've seen him beat the best and get beaten by the best, including Bloomquist beating him at the World Hundred with one arm in a cast.

zyoung25
09-21-2017, 05:03 PM
Freddy laid the smack down on them with a cast on too!

Maybe a cast is needed every now and then.

jr29
09-21-2017, 05:12 PM
I remember Jeff winning a Busch race at Pikes Peak when he was in the RCR car. If memory serves he had 1/2 or 3/4 track on the field when the checkers flew.

Bloomerdirtking
09-21-2017, 05:17 PM
I can still remeber when Neil Bonnett asked him to try out one if his car’s and give the now defunct All-Pro series. Being from the north we had the ASA. Those were some killer shows the ASA/All-Pro put on back in the day. It was awesome seeing Bobby Allison, Neil Bonett and Jeff Purvis take on asphalt short tracks best. That is what sent him Nascar racing.

Kyle7117
09-21-2017, 07:40 PM
I had the privilege to see them both race. They both are one of the best. IMO In Jeff's first 5 starts in the world 100 he had 3 wins and 2 -2nd place finishes . Scott has 4 wins in 25 + starts .

kidrock
09-21-2017, 08:13 PM
Once again, nobody is denying the talent he had. He might have been the best driver to ever get in a late model, talent wise. But at the end of the day, he is not considered to be the best because he doesn't have the accomplishments in late model racing like others do. I'm not doubting that he wouldn't have, had he stayed in dirt racing. It's like saying Barry Sanders was the best running back of all time, he had more talent than anyone but he didn't stick around long enough to eclipse the statistics that Scott and Billy have.

Believe me I totally get what your saying and I have no problem with people saying Bloomer or Moyer are the best ever because, yes they have more on their resume but, in my opinion Jeff Purvis was the best ever in a dirt late model. He just didn't stay around long enough to build a resume for people to see it.

CIRF
09-21-2017, 08:49 PM
Once again, nobody is denying the talent he had. He might have been the best driver to ever get in a late model, talent wise. But at the end of the day, he is not considered to be the best because he doesn't have the accomplishments in late model racing like others do. I'm not doubting that he wouldn't have, had he stayed in dirt racing. It's like saying Barry Sanders was the best running back of all time, he had more talent than anyone but he didn't stick around long enough to eclipse the statistics that Scott and Billy have.Barry Sanders is not a viable analogy. Sanders could not better himself from the NFL. Purvis could, and did, advance his career to a higher level from dirt late models into a couple of racing series' where, at that time, it was tougher to win. The reason he got the opportunity to advance up the ladder beyond dirt late models is because he was so much better than everyone else. Believe this, if someone had offered the opportunity to bloomy and Moyer that was offered to Purvis there is little doubt that they would have done exactly what Purvis did. But neither earned the opportunity. That is the difference.


That is a fringe opinion by some fans that think he was the best. Actually, there is nothing to back it up. If he had stuck around and made a career out of it then there would be something to compare. I've seen him beat the best and get beaten by the best, including Bloomquist beating him at the World Hundred with one arm in a cast.Clay, the exact reason Purvis didn't stick around in dirt late models is because he was so much better than everyone else.


I had the privilege to see them both race. They both are one of the best. IMO In Jeff's first 5 starts in the world 100 he had 3 wins and 2 -2nd place finishes . Scott has 4 wins in 25 + starts .And there you have it. That record speaks for itself. Nuff said.

grt74
09-21-2017, 08:55 PM
Barry Sanders is not a viable analogy. Sanders could not better himself from the NFL. Purvis could, and did, advance his career to a higher level from dirt late models into a couple of racing series' where, at that time, it was tougher to win. The reason he got the opportunity to advance up the ladder beyond dirt late models is because he was so much better than everyone else. Believe this, if someone had offered the opportunity to bloomy and Moyer that was offered to Purvis there is little doubt that they would have done exactly what Purvis did. But neither earned the opportunity. That is the difference.

Clay, the exact reason Purvis didn't stick around in dirt late models is because he was so much better than everyone else.

And there you have it. That record speaks for itself. Nuff said.

dam fellas, that had to hurt, lmao
and thats the truth, truth

ptown
09-21-2017, 09:29 PM
The only way you can be the best ever is to have the best lifetime career stats.

seminole939913
09-21-2017, 09:39 PM
I watched Jeff race several times and some of the more memorable ones were the shows he and Ronnie Johnson would put on when they would run the dirt late models on the 1/4 mile asphalt track in Huntsville, Alabama and I think they ran the 1/4 track in Nashville a couple of times as well but I did not make those. I know the first time they had the show in Huntsville, their points leader in the weekly asphalt late model division (I believe it was Mike Oliver) brought his car and Purvis lapped him within the first ten laps of the race with Johnson right on his heels and the asphalt regular pulled in and parked and watched the rest of the show. I think the top four cars were all that finished on the lead lap that night, but it sure was a good, very fast paced, race for the entire 100 laps.

Illtsate32
09-21-2017, 09:48 PM
I had the privilege to see them both race. They both are one of the best. IMO In Jeff's first 5 starts in the world 100 he had 3 wins and 2 -2nd place finishes . Scott has 4 wins in 25 + starts .Would of had 15 worlds at least...

dirtdobber45
09-21-2017, 10:28 PM
Would of had 15 worlds at least...If he didnt he wouldve been close to that. Plus some of those Dreams

let-r-eat
09-21-2017, 10:56 PM
Purvis ALL DAY EVERYDAY over any other driver out there today or yesterday in a DLM. He's the best to ever hold the wheel of one.............

It was AMAZING how free he could race a car without wrecking. On these slick tracks of today, he would be lapping the field in these 100 lappers. Hell, he did it back then. He would be even MORE today. Watching him corner a car is a sight that all DLM drivers today should be watching with extreme focus. The guy was beyond good.............

Pennsboro23
09-22-2017, 07:01 AM
dam fellas, that had to hurt, lmao
and thats the truth, truth

Not really. Like ptown said, the only way to be the best ever is to have the statistics to back it up. Ask 100 random knowledgeable dirt late model fans, who the best late model driver of all time is and 70 percent of them say Bloomer, 25 say Moyer, and the other 5 percent would include Purvis, Freddy Smith, Moran, etc.

Just like any other sport, stats don't lie. Gretzky, Jordan, Tiger, Brady all the best of their sport because of their accomplishments. Winning championships, and dominating their sport for many years. With Purvis, everything is well he WOULD have won this or that...the thing is he didn't. No doubt, he COULD have. Is Tony Stewart considered one of the best dirt racers of all time in either a sprint car or super?

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-22-2017, 07:35 AM
Not really. Like ptown said, the only way to be the best ever is to have the statistics to back it up. Ask 100 random knowledgeable dirt late model fans, who the best late model driver of all time is and 70 percent of them say Bloomer, 25 say Moyer, and the other 5 percent would include Purvis, Freddy Smith, Moran, etc.

Just like any other sport, stats don't lie. Gretzky, Jordan, Tiger, Brady all the best of their sport because of their accomplishments. Winning championships, and dominating their sport for many years. With Purvis, everything is well he WOULD have won this or that...the thing is he didn't. No doubt, he COULD have. Is Tony Stewart considered one of the best dirt racers of all time in either a sprint car or super?

Tiger hasn't and won't win the most majors. Stats don't lie. There are two ways to decide who is the best. Are we talking about stats or actual ability? Those are different. And drivers from different eras can't really be compared because of different races available. NASCAR recognized Richmond in their list of all time greats.

Pennsboro23
09-22-2017, 08:03 AM
Tiger hasn't and won't win the most majors. Stats don't lie. There are two ways to decide who is the best. Are we talking about stats or actual ability? Those are different. And drivers from different eras can't really be compared because of different races available. NASCAR recognized Richmond in their list of all time greats.

As you can tell, I'm not much of a golfer. But you understood my point.

I guess I'm just going to have to agree to disagree.

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-22-2017, 08:31 AM
As you can tell, I'm not much of a golfer. But you understood my point.

I guess I'm just going to have to agree to disagree.

Its an exercise in opinion. Everyone is entitled to one. Just explaining how I see it. IMO, Purvis is the best and Swartz was the most exciting. Everyone else is free to their own opinion. A lot of the college boyz on here never saw either one race. LOL

zyoung25
09-22-2017, 09:03 AM
I never seen Purvis race, but I did watch Charlie a good bit growing up. I feel like Purvis is the best, even without watching him in person. I guess I'm more of a numbers guy, I don't have to see people in action to know their greatness. Bo Jackson was probably the best multi sport player ever, and never won a title. Him and Purvis remind me a lot of each other in a sort. Nobody ever got to see how great they could've been, but numbers don't lie on how great they actually were either.

dirtdobber45
09-22-2017, 09:11 AM
Jeff was a dam good driver. He was good at every level. And yes shoulda woulda coulda been the best dlm we have ever seen. But he grabbed that brass ring to further his career. Pretty dam smart in my opinion

TS FAN
09-22-2017, 10:21 AM
Its an exercise in opinion. Everyone is entitled to one. Just explaining how I see it. IMO, Purvis is the best and Swartz was the most exciting. Everyone else is free to their own opinion. A lot of the college boyz on here never saw either one race. LOL

Once again you are right. We all have opinions. Fine
For ME Purvis!!! Bloomer second. I watched both of them plenty. Purvis pretty much left LM racing in his early thirties. Career stats are fine to look at, but it never says who is the best just based on those.

CIRF
09-22-2017, 10:49 AM
The only way you can be the best ever is to have the best lifetime career stats.


Not really. Like ptown said, the only way to be the best ever is to have the statistics to back it up. Ask 100 random knowledgeable dirt late model fans, who the best late model driver of all time is and 70 percent of them say Bloomer, 25 say Moyer, and the other 5 percent would include Purvis, Freddy Smith, Moran, etc.

Just like any other sport, stats don't lie. Gretzky, Jordan, Tiger, Brady all the best of their sport because of their accomplishments. Winning championships, and dominating their sport for many years. With Purvis, everything is well he WOULD have won this or that...the thing is he didn't. No doubt, he COULD have. Is Tony Stewart considered one of the best dirt racers of all time in either a sprint car or super?

Okay, fair enough. We'll just settle on the fact that Purvis was way too talented and too good to languish away his career by winning every "dirt late model crown jewel" many times and constantly winning on every obscure little dirt bull ring in the country. He moved on..........and up. Simple as that.

The big difference between the athletes you mention and Purvis is those athletes made their mark competing in the absolute pinnacle of competition in their chosen sport. That was not the case with Purvis in regards to dirt late models. DLM's are not the pinnacle of racing competition and I mean absolutely no disrespect to the DLM division which is my first love. It's just the way it is.

There are guys that have been absolute beasts in college football and basketball (see Archie Griffin and Danny Manning) or in the minor leagues of MLB but that isn't the pinnacle of their sport. Purvis was good enough that he was given the opportunity to move up to the pinnacle. DLM's turned out to be just a stepping stone for him because of his superior talent.

Hope that clears it up for you.

BloomerHarvickFan
09-22-2017, 11:16 AM
I had the privilege to see them both race. They both are one of the best. IMO In Jeff's first 5 starts in the world 100 he had 3 wins and 2 -2nd place finishes . Scott has 4 wins in 25 + starts .

Bloomquist did have 2 World wins in his first 3 starts.

BloomerHarvickFan
09-22-2017, 11:34 AM
Purvis also has a very small sample size at Eldora too with only 8 starts.
He had an average finish of 5.0
Bloomquist has an avg. finish of 7.07 with 27 starts
Bloomquist not only has 4 wins, but 18 top 5 finishes in 27 starts including 8 runner up finishes.
Scott has finished in the top 3, over half of the time.

Pennsboro23
09-22-2017, 11:51 AM
Okay, fair enough. We'll just settle on the fact that Purvis was way too talented and too good to languish away his career by winning every "dirt late model crown jewel" many times and constantly winning on every obscure little dirt bull ring in the country. He moved on..........and up. Simple as that.

The big difference between the athletes you mention and Purvis is those athletes made their mark competing in the absolute pinnacle of competition in their chosen sport. That was not the case with Purvis in regards to dirt late models. DLM's are not the pinnacle of racing competition and I mean absolutely no disrespect to the DLM division which is my first love. It's just the way it is.

There are guys that have been absolute beasts in college football and basketball (see Archie Griffin and Danny Manning) or in the minor leagues of MLB but that isn't the pinnacle of their sport. Purvis was good enough that he was given the opportunity to move up to the pinnacle. DLM's turned out to be just a stepping stone for him because of his superior talent.

Hope that clears it up for you.

No, I completely understand, and no hard feelings. I just love history and statistics of sports. Purvis probably was the most talented driver we have ever seen in late models, I just wish he would have stuck around to see what he would have done.

jog49
09-22-2017, 12:07 PM
Wouldn't you all love to see the big rigs arriving at your favorite tracks with wraps on them like the hauler of Purvis?

Chris Thomason
09-22-2017, 12:28 PM
That would be cool! Was he doing that before his nascar days?

CIRF
09-22-2017, 01:37 PM
No, I completely understand, and no hard feelings. I just love history and statistics of sports. Purvis probably was the most talented driver we have ever seen in late models, I just wish he would have stuck around to see what he would have done.

No hard feelings whatsoever. I understand your point of view and I appreciate your respectfulness. I also highly respect your appreciation for the history and numbers of sports as a whole.

I reckon things always look better when looking back on them as a time of your life when the world was your oyster and before life has a chance to cause a person to become jaded. Purvis' heyday in dirt late models was at time when the late model division was teeming with exceptional talent and big car numbers. Moyer was entering his heyday, bloomy was a bright up and coming star along with Moran and Francis, etc. Chargin' Charlie Swartz was putting on a show no matter where he raced and guys like Freddie Smith, Larry Moore, Mike Duvall and Buck Simmons were wildly popular established stars of the division. At that time I was deeply involved with a winning late model team and when Purvis showed up at an event we knew we had to work a little harder and would need a little luck, too.

At the time Purvis left the dirt he was the most feared and respected dirt late model driver of them all. I will always believe he was the best to strap his ass into a dirt late model. If anyone has proof to the contrary I'm all ears. Not looking for a pissing contest, just looking for anything that would make the case against him besides comparing numbers against guys that raced late models 25 or more years longer that Jeff.

Finnfan
09-22-2017, 03:06 PM
Just my 2 cents... I was lucky enough to watch Purvis 8-10 times and he didn't win every feature I saw, just like Bloomquist and Moyer don't always win. It was clear he was an exceptional talent, but its not really fair to compare him to Bloomer, Moyer, Owens, Moran, etc... because they did "stay" in dirt LM racing and all their stats are irrefutable. In other words, you don't have to put a would of, could of, should of...in front of any of their accomplishments/wins, they actually DID them.

Purvis chose to leave, which was his absolute right to do and I'm sure was better financially, but to me, when you choose to leave a sport, you don't get the right to the "Oh he could have won this and that 50 times..." label. To me that gets forfeited once you decide to leave, and you only get to rely on the accomplishments you actually DID. That goes for any driver.

The truth is no one knows exactly what Purvis would have done if he stayed, so it's comparing apples to oranges, since other drivers did STAY and rack up wins (see Bloomer and Moyer). Perhaps Purvis wouldn't have adapted to the different chassis changes over the years, perhaps he would've but no one knows for sure, while we do know for sure that Bloomer and Moyer (and others) did adapt and succeed. Purvis didn't exactly set the world on fire in the Nascar/asphalt ranks.

And for the record, I'm not at all anti-Purvis, I just think it slights the other drivers when people say "Purvis would have been better".

hanginitout
09-22-2017, 03:19 PM
Just a question? What is he doing now? Last I had heard he was running some crate stuff. Then I had heard he had an accident with his hauler,

a25rjr
09-22-2017, 03:28 PM
Just my 2 cents... I was lucky enough to watch Purvis 8-10 times and he didn't win every feature I saw, just like Bloomquist and Moyer don't always win. It was clear he was an exceptional talent, but its not really fair to compare him to Bloomer, Moyer, Owens, Moran, etc... because they did "stay" in dirt LM racing and all their stats are irrefutable. In other words, you don't have to put a would of, could of, should of...in front of any of their accomplishments/wins, they actually DID them.

Purvis chose to leave, which was his absolute right to do and I'm sure was better financially, but to me, when you choose to leave a sport, you don't get the right to the "Oh he could have won this and that 50 times..." label. To me that gets forfeited once you decide to leave, and you only get to rely on the accomplishments you actually DID. That goes for any driver.

The truth is no one knows exactly what Purvis would have done if he stayed, so it's comparing apples to oranges, since other drivers did STAY and rack up wins (see Bloomer and Moyer). Perhaps Purvis wouldn't have adapted to the different chassis changes over the years, perhaps he would've but no one knows for sure, while we do know for sure that Bloomer and Moyer (and others) did adapt and succeed. Purvis didn't exactly set the world on fire in the Nascar/asphalt ranks.

And for the record, I'm not at all anti-Purvis, I just think it slights the other drivers when people say "Purvis would have been better".

Well said......I 100% agree!

Pennsboro23
09-22-2017, 04:01 PM
No hard feelings whatsoever. I understand your point of view and I appreciate your respectfulness. I also highly respect your appreciation for the history and numbers of sports as a whole.

I reckon things always look better when looking back on them as a time of your life when the world was your oyster and before life has a chance to cause a person to become jaded. Purvis' heyday in dirt late models was at time when the late model division was teeming with exceptional talent and big car numbers. Moyer was entering his heyday, bloomy was a bright up and coming star along with Moran and Francis, etc. Chargin' Charlie Swartz was putting on a show no matter where he raced and guys like Freddie Smith, Larry Moore, Mike Duvall and Buck Simmons were wildly popular established stars of the division. At that time I was deeply involved with a winning late model team and when Purvis showed up at an event we knew we had to work a little harder and would need a little luck, too.

At the time Purvis left the dirt he was the most feared and respected dirt late model driver of them all. I will always believe he was the best to strap his ass into a dirt late model. If anyone has proof to the contrary I'm all ears. Not looking for a pissing contest, just looking for anything that would make the case against him besides comparing numbers against guys that raced late models 25 or more years longer that Jeff.

Very informative post, I wish I were able to see Swartz, Purvis, Moore etc. I started going racing with my pops in the mid 1990's. At that time, Bloomer and Moyer were dominating, and my all time favorite driver Freddy Smith was still winning a lot of races. Being from Pennsboro, I had to become a fan of Freddy. They actually started calling him Mr. Pennsboro. I do agree, it always seems like those were the good ol days and you always wish you could go back and relive those moments when racing was in it's ''hay day''. Even though I was never privileged enough to watch Jeff Purvis, I have great respect for what he accomplished in the sport and glad that we can have conversations like this to debate who we think the best drivers of all time are.

grt74
09-22-2017, 05:11 PM
Just my 2 cents... I was lucky enough to watch Purvis 8-10 times and he didn't win every feature I saw, just like Bloomquist and Moyer don't always win. It was clear he was an exceptional talent, but its not really fair to compare him to Bloomer, Moyer, Owens, Moran, etc... because they did "stay" in dirt LM racing and all their stats are irrefutable. In other words, you don't have to put a would of, could of, should of...in front of any of their accomplishments/wins, they actually DID them.

Purvis chose to leave, which was his absolute right to do and I'm sure was better financially, but to me, when you choose to leave a sport, you don't get the right to the "Oh he could have won this and that 50 times..." label. To me that gets forfeited once you decide to leave, and you only get to rely on the accomplishments you actually DID. That goes for any driver.

The truth is no one knows exactly what Purvis would have done if he stayed, so it's comparing apples to oranges, since other drivers did STAY and rack up wins (see Bloomer and Moyer). Perhaps Purvis wouldn't have adapted to the different chassis changes over the years, perhaps he would've but no one knows for sure, while we do know for sure that Bloomer and Moyer (and others) did adapt and succeed. Purvis didn't exactly set the world on fire in the Nascar/asphalt ranks.

And for the record, I'm not at all anti-Purvis, I just think it slights the other drivers when people say "Purvis would have been better".

no he didn't set the world on fire just yet, but the stars were about to line up before he got hurt, he was in top notch equipment for a couple of races and showed he could get it done and gibbs was ready to put him in the seat (sponsor wise)

jeff is doing well these days, he has several businesses, but racing is a thing of the past for him these days, but he still likes to talk about it from time to time, i do like the stories cj tells from time to time

but he was one of the very few to get to the top, and in a time when it wasn't very easy to do

kidrock
09-22-2017, 08:21 PM
Purvis ALL DAY EVERYDAY over any other driver out there today or yesterday in a DLM. He's the best to ever hold the wheel of one.............

It was AMAZING how free he could race a car without wrecking. On these slick tracks of today, he would be lapping the field in these 100 lappers. Hell, he did it back then. He would be even MORE today. Watching him corner a car is a sight that all DLM drivers today should be watching with extreme focus. The guy was beyond good.............

And that is the rest of the story!!

jog49
09-23-2017, 09:44 AM
All this talk that goes on constantly about who's the best this and who's the best that is just endless speculation. There has been a small, select group of drivers over the life of dirt racing that, if they pulled through the pit gates, had a very high probability of winning the race that day or night. Purvis would have been among that group during his too brief stint on dirt. He could drive anything reasonably well and used that talent to move up into the NASCAR ranks. Ken Schrader was such a driver too but Purvis was probably better along the way up to NASCAR.

RW57
09-23-2017, 06:11 PM
One thing Purvis had going for him was he was a class act not a total jerk like some of today's drivers. People liked him.My opinion if he had stayed in dirt racing he would have been the best ever still may be.

jog49
09-24-2017, 10:20 AM
"The only way you can be the best ever is to have the best lifetime career stats."

Then it's not the two or three everyone is arguing about but rather Buck Simmons. He has 1,024 verifiable career wins which far outdistances anybody I know of in dirt late model racing.