Pittsburgher 100 Provisional

[davis2902]

The highest finishing non qualifying Rocket car? WTH?

[MI Dirt Fan]

This was brought up last year. I think it's part of a sponsorship deal or Mark puts some of is money or something for a provisional spot for the highest finishing non qualifying rocket car.

[No_Weak_Links]

You can always have your own 20k to win race and name whoever you want for a provisional. Just saying

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

You can always have your own 20k to win race and name whoever you want for a provisional. Just saying

This is a Lucas race!

[Snake X3]

And people wonder why Richards is accused of buying influence.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

We can always whine and b!tch about dumb sh!t. You realize Steve Baker ran at PMS for a long time. The Miley's obviously agreed to it, so sponsor your own non-Rocket provisional.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

We can always whine and b!tch about dumb sh!t. You realize Steve Baker ran at PMS for a long time. The Miley's obviously agreed to it, so sponsor your own non-Rocket provisional.

So a bunch of Rocket folks agreed to it? Go figure...

[Snake X3]

We can always whine and b!tch about dumb sh!t. You realize Steve Baker ran at PMS for a long time. The Miley's obviously agreed to it, so sponsor your own non-Rocket provisional.

You're missing the point, man. It's the idea that Richards bought a car, presumably a customer, into the race. It's one thing for a touring guys to get a provisional or some one to earn a spot into the race on points or by winning some other race. This is entirely different. People complain when drivers "buy" their rides. This just takes it to the next level.

Yes. It's a petty thing to complain about and adding another backmarker to the field isn't a big deal, but this is the kind of thing that makes people dislike Richards.

[onlyfacts]

I don't see the problem.... when a series like Lucas or WOO pays a contingency out it goes to guy that uses that product and displays a decal. If Rocket payed for a provisional it's no different. They rewarded someone that is using their product.

[Snake X3]

I don't see the problem.... when a series like Lucas or WOO pays a contingency out it goes to guy that uses that product and displays a decal. If Rocket payed for a provisional it's no different. They rewarded someone that is using their product.

It's completely different. Rewarding customer loyalty/sponsorship in the form of monetary awards doesn't favor one driver over another in event competition.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

So a bunch of Rocket folks agreed to it? Go figure...And the Miley's charge way more to get in than any other track, been that way for 30 years.

Is what it is, I don't go to PMS, because of their prices and I don't like the track. I'd still go even though they had this provisional if I liked the place.

Wonder if you guys would sing the same tune if it was a Lazer, Rayburn, Kryptonite, Swartz, etc.?

The main ones in here with an issue don't like Rocket, just saying.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

You're missing the point, man. It's the idea that Richards bought a car, presumably a customer, into the race. It's one thing for a touring guys to get a provisional or some one to earn a spot into the race on points or by winning some other race. This is entirely different. People complain when drivers "buy" their rides. This just takes it to the next level.

Yes. It's a petty thing to complain about and adding another backmarker to the field isn't a big deal, but this is the kind of thing that makes people dislike Richards.Agreed. I'm pretty sure Mark doesn't care about no popularity contest though. Winning races and selling cars.

[Barbecueboy]

You're missing the point, man. It's the idea that Richards bought a car, presumably a customer, into the race. It's one thing for a touring guys to get a provisional or some one to earn a spot into the race on points or by winning some other race. This is entirely different. People complain when drivers "buy" their rides. This just takes it to the next level.

Yes. It's a petty thing to complain about and adding another backmarker to the field isn't a big deal, but this is the kind of thing that makes people dislike Richards.

Way bigger things than this for people not liking Richards......

But on a positive note, check hucky out with a solid 15 finish.......and I read he won the slm points at Pittsburgh......got to give him some credit, nice.

Wonder what couples cruise he and serge will take with the points money?

[Bubstr]

Contingency awards are nothing new.

[TackyTracker]

with the amount of cars they had didn't almost everyone make it in anyway

[onlyfacts]

Satterlee Fuels sponsored a regional car provisional. Why wasn't it available to everyone what about the next local car or someone from a different region?

[mmiley]

The facts,
Matt Miley asked several folks if the were interested in sponsoring provisionals, Pittsburgh’s Pennsylvania Motor Speedway can easily start 34, we did it many times in the early days, it makes the event special.
Who does it help, racers that bust their ass, the track by attracting more cars, the fans by seeing more cars... it’s win win win.

So Mark Richards steps up to the plate and adds a car to the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series 29th annual Pittsburgher 100, a Chassis builder that actually helps the race track, we need more of them...

If I’m Mark Richards it’s probobly the last provisional I’d sponsor,
THANKS NEGATIVE KB COWBOYS, YOU REALLY HELP THE SPORT!

BTW, If you haven’t been to Pittsburgh’s Pennsylvania Motor Speedway, listen to what the top drivers in the country say about it, inc;using a guys like Tony Stewart, Bloomquist, Richards, O’Neal... you are missing it...over what, a few bucks, life is to short... Prices charged are what’s required to hold the event annually in the cost structure in which we operate, it is what it is, Allegheny County, PA... SUPPORT THE SPORT JMO, Matt Miley, Owner, Pittsburgh’s Pennsylvania Motor Speedway

...just have to wonder who’s going to carry the torch for the sport in our region when guys like Mark Richards and operations like Miley Motor Sports say we have had enough... PERHAPS IT WILL BE IN GOOD HANDS WITH THE KB COWBOYS... they can discuss the racing we used to have... you are souring the caretakers of the sport...2018 will be our 30th consecutive season at Pittsburgh’s Pennsylvania Motor Speedway...maybe we will get it right...

A huge thanks to those who support the sport and all those who make it happen, -lease keep doing it, it truly makes a difference, ignore the KB COWBOYS, we ignored RACESTUD all year, had our best season in the Modern Era, we are the cheapest venue in the Pittsburgh Area to new fans...

Why did I make chat board post, you attacked a sponsor of the sport, LUDICROUS1

🏁

[Highside Hustler25]

Between a hand full of keyboard jockeys VS a packed house, I doubt PPMS has anything to worry about. Most sensible folks ignore the negativity on this sight anyway.

[flash49]

No Lucas Oil regulars failed to get a spot because of this provisional.

[formercrewguy]

Who cares? It was a great race.

[Mark Richards]

When we were approached by Matt Miley about sponsoring a provisional it wasn't something I was interested in doing, because I don't believe in multiple provisionals to fill the field. My believe is the spot should go to the next car in line that earned it. If a track wants to start more cars then take more out of heats or B mains. Matt Miley didn't have an easy sell to me but after numerous calls and texts I give in and sponsored the provisional. I had no thoughts of it being something that would get criticism but after getting this post sent to me this morning all I can say is we are sorry for any inconvenience it has created. In the future we will refrain from sponsoring any races or race tracks. The Miley's try hard to bring a big paying race to the area and I appreciate what they do as well as all the promoters across the United States. Being a promoter is a tough and a thankless job we were promoters of one of the best tracks in WV for 14 years so we understand and do not want to cause this event any negative publicity.

[MI Dirt Fan]

When we were approached by Matt Miley about sponsoring a provisional it wasn't something I was interested in doing, because I don't believe in multiple provisionals to fill the field. My believe is the spot should go to the next car in line that earned it. If a track wants to start more cars then take more out of heats or B mains. Matt Miley didn't have an easy sell to me but after numerous calls and texts I give in and sponsored the provisional. I had no thoughts of it being something that would get criticism but after getting this post sent to me this morning all I can say is we are sorry for any inconvenience it has created. In the future we will reframe from sponsoring any races or race tracks. The Miley's try hard to bring a big paying race to the area and I appreciate what they do as well as all the promoters across the United States. Being a promoter is a tough and a thankless job we were promoters of one of the best tracks in WV for 14 years so we understand and do not want to cause this event any negative publicity.

I think it's a good, creative idea. No need to stop just because some people, especially on here are butt hurt over it.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

When we were approached by Matt Miley about sponsoring a provisional it wasn't something I was interested in doing, because I don't believe in multiple provisionals to fill the field. My believe is the spot should go to the next car in line that earned it. If a track wants to start more cars then take more out of heats or B mains. Matt Miley didn't have an easy sell to me but after numerous calls and texts I give in and sponsored the provisional. I had no thoughts of it being something that would get criticism but after getting this post sent to me this morning all I can say is we are sorry for any inconvenience it has created. In the future we will reframe from sponsoring any races or race tracks. The Miley's try hard to bring a big paying race to the area and I appreciate what they do as well as all the promoters across the United States. Being a promoter is a tough and a thankless job we were promoters of one of the best tracks in WV for 14 years so we understand and do not want to cause this event any negative publicity.When you're at the top, you got some haters. I wouldn't let it deter you from a dam thing. You, Bloomer, Bobby, JD, Josh, and others shoulda quit by now with all the BS thrown your way.

I'd keep doing it just outta spite.

[MBR Performance]

Sponsoring a provisional is one thing but when you put restrictions on who is eligible for it like car brand or where the person is from is where I believe it wrong. It should go to the highest time trial driver not to qualify thru the heats or B-mains. The amount of years that Mr Richards has been in racing and a former promoter he should have known that there would be repercussions for basically paying to have a car in the field. I'm not saying he shouldn't sponsor a track, race or series but use common sense next time.

[NormP]

And the Miley's charge way more to get in than any other track, been that way for 30 years.

Is what it is, I don't go to PMS, because of their prices and I don't like the track. I'd still go even though they had this provisional if I liked the place.

Wonder if you guys would sing the same tune if it was a Lazer, Rayburn, Kryptonite, Swartz, etc.?

The main ones in here with an issue don't like Rocket, just saying.

You have to realize the main ones bitching about it are the same ones who whine about the two main series constantly or how "the little guy doesn't stand a chance any more. Boo hoo I can't afford to race with the big guys but instead of dropping down a class I'd rather whine like a little girl."

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

No Lucas Oil regulars failed to get a spot because of this provisional.

Who cares if they did? The Lucas procedures make that an impossibility anyway.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

You have to realize the main ones bitching about it are the same ones who whine about the two main series constantly or how "the little guy doesn't stand a chance any more. Boo hoo I can't afford to race with the big guys but instead of dropping down a class I'd rather whine like a little girl."

How about we have a jig a low provisional and make sure a guy brings one? Some star gazers ignore impropriety. This sport continues to be undone by concentration of power.

[lrnvlFan1w]

Miller Welders Fast Time Provisional: Tommy Beck

I look at the provisional as Rocket giving back to it's Customers. Nothing is stopping any other business from doing the same.

Go find a corner and scream into you might feel better about it.

[Josh Bayko]

Rocket could give every late model racer in the country a million dollars, figure out a deal with North Korea, and find a cure of cancer and 4M would still b* tch.

[No_Weak_Links]

Sponsoring a provisional is one thing but when you put restrictions on who is eligible for it like car brand or where the person is from is where I believe it wrong. It should go to the highest time trial driver not to qualify thru the heats or B-mains. The amount of years that Mr Richards has been in racing and a former promoter he should have known that there would be repercussions for basically paying to have a car in the field. I'm not saying he shouldn't sponsor a track, race or series but use common sense next time.He paid the money for the provisional spot, he can put whoever he wants in it. I don't see what the problem is. IT'S A PROVISIONAL....if a car doesn't make the main through their heat or their B-main, they have nobody to be mad at but themselves. Don't be butthurt....be faster.

[PRCKartRacer9]

What he said^^^^^

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

He paid the money for the provisional spot, he can put whoever he wants in it. I don't see what the problem is. IT'S A PROVISIONAL....if a car doesn't make the main through their heat or their B-main, they have nobody to be mad at but themselves. Don't be butthurt....be faster.

That's the point. Can everyone pay to play?

[a25rjr]

That's the point. Can everyone pay to play?

I hope so.

I'll be fronting the money for a Snow Bros Racecars , out of Florida, provisional for next year! :)

[No_Weak_Links]

That's the point. Can everyone pay to play?I guess so if a track contacts you wanting you to sponsor a provisional. This is nothing new. Tracks all over the country insist on 1 or 2 track provisionals when they sign contracts for different series.....they could have just called it a track provisional, gave it to a rocket car and nobody would've said a word. Like I said, if drivers don't like it...get faster. Don't put yourself in a position where the only hope you have in making a race is getting a handout.

[Phatdaddy]

Sounds like the promotor badgered Mark into agreeing to this bs provisional (after numerous calls/texts). I'll go ask Bob if he got the same badgering. Would love to see Bobby in LOLMS fields that he did not make based on his chassis manufacturer.

[BloomerHarvickFan]

These promoters provisionals don't earn any championship points, and if I'm not mistaken, Lucas doesn't pay their purse money either. That comes from the track or sponsor of the provisional.
It is also outside of the normal amount of starters for a Lucas Oil race.

[Phatdaddy]

Since the LOLMS or PPMS websites do not make mention of this "special provisional", is it safe now to assume that some of these track provisionals are sold off by the promotor and bought by a sponsor specifically for his/her customers ??

[hucktyson]

Everyone should thank Mark Richards for paying for that provisional . Non business owners don't understand how a write off works . They think him paying 1200 reduces his tax liability by 1200 and makes it a wash. That's not how it works , he only saves paying the tax on that money. It is literally burning money because the waiting list for the blazing fast XR1 cars isn't getting any shorter. It was nice of him and he should be thanked not bashed. If the track provisionals were 2 highest point guys To not transfer it would most likely result in more cars coming every week.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Everyone should thank Mark Richards for paying for that provisional . Non business owners don't understand how a write off works . They think him paying 1200 reduces his tax liability by 1200 and makes it a wash. That's not how it works , he only saves paying the tax on that money. It is literally burning money because the waiting list for the blazing fast XR1 cars isn't getting any shorter. It was nice of him and he should be thanked not bashed. If the track provisionals were 2 highest point guys To not transfer it would most likely result in more cars coming every week.Holy sh!t Huck, you made a good post. Well said.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Rocket could give every late model racer in the country a million dollars, figure out a deal with North Korea, and find a cure of cancer and 4M would still b* tch.Yep, pretty much.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

You have to realize the main ones bitching about it are the same ones who whine about the two main series constantly or how "the little guy doesn't stand a chance any more. Boo hoo I can't afford to race with the big guys but instead of dropping down a class I'd rather whine like a little girl."Yes sir. I know. Why I inserted if it was misc. chassis would y'all still cry.

[Josh Bayko]

You guys also realize that everyone who regularly runs PPMS except for Huck, Colton Flinner and Keith Barbara run Rockets, right?

[NormP]

How about we have a jig a low provisional and make sure a guy brings one? Some star gazers ignore impropriety. This sport continues to be undone by concentration of power.

I'm not sure what a star gazer is, but I don't think you realize how unprofessional the sport of dirt late model racing is as a whole. There is no more impropriety to this provisional than many other aspects of the sport. Definitely not worth getting worked up over.

[ThebigE]

What a bunch of snowflake crybabies.... Hopefully Mark keeps doing this and doesn't get offended by the handful of crybabies on 4m.

[Phatdaddy]

What a bunch of snowflake crybabies.... Hopefully Mark keeps doing this and doesn't get offended by the handful of crybabies on 4m.

It's interesting that people are called crybabies, whiners..etc on this forum or any others. Everybody has a right to their opinion, and they can state them however they like. Sorry (not sorry) if it's different than your opinion. Mark bought a spot in the feature for one of his customers. Simple as that. If the chassis manufacturer can do it, can every other company?? Let's just add another 5 starting spots for the other manufacturers. Not making the feature based on merit is one thing. But making it based on your alliance to Rockets stinks. And Mark basically said himself that the promoter has been trying to contact him regarding this for a period of time before the event. Are spots in the feature for sale at every event ?? I know that the track's website or the LOLMS doesn't mention a Rocket Provisional on the race recaps
These forums are like groups of race fans standing around a campfire having discussions about racing issues. That's how it should be. I bet you wouldn't walk by and call anyone a "snowflake crybaby" just because you don't agree with them.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

It's interesting that people are called crybabies, whiners..etc on this forum or any others. Everybody has a right to their opinion, and they can state them however they like. Sorry (not sorry) if it's different than your opinion. Mark bought a spot in the feature for one of his customers. Simple as that. If the chassis manufacturer can do it, can every other company?? Let's just add another 5 starting spots for the other manufacturers. Not making the feature based on merit is one thing. But making it based on your alliance to Rockets stinks. And Mark basically said himself that the promoter has been trying to contact him regarding this for a period of time before the event. Are spots in the feature for sale at every event ?? I know that the track's website or the LOLMS doesn't mention a Rocket Provisional on the race recaps
These forums are like groups of race fans standing around a campfire having discussions about racing issues. That's how it should be. I bet you wouldn't walk by and call anyone a "snowflake crybaby" just because you don't agree with them.Is the tried and true snowflake crybaby comment stupid, sure.

PPMS can hold a lot of cars, and if someone came to them wanting to offer another provisional, I wouldn't doubt they'd do it. They did Rocket because it's a Rocket heavy area.

[Barbecueboy]

It's interesting that people are called crybabies, whiners..etc on this forum or any others. Everybody has a right to their opinion, and they can state them however they like. Sorry (not sorry) if it's different than your opinion. Mark bought a spot in the feature for one of his customers. Simple as that. If the chassis manufacturer can do it, can every other company?? Let's just add another 5 starting spots for the other manufacturers. Not making the feature based on merit is one thing. But making it based on your alliance to Rockets stinks. And Mark basically said himself that the promoter has been trying to contact him regarding this for a period of time before the event. Are spots in the feature for sale at every event ?? I know that the track's website or the LOLMS doesn't mention a Rocket Provisional on the race recaps
These forums are like groups of race fans standing around a campfire having discussions about racing issues. That's how it should be. I bet you wouldn't walk by and call anyone a "snowflake crybaby" just because you don't agree with them.

Wow, some levity ......excellent post phatdaddy....especially the last paragraph.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm not sure what a star gazer is, but I don't think you realize how unprofessional the sport of dirt late model racing is as a whole. There is no more impropriety to this provisional than many other aspects of the sport. Definitely not worth getting worked up over.

I am well aware how it is.

[Phatdaddy]

[QUOTE=chupp n bloomer fan;2142960]Is the tried and true snowflake crybaby comment stupid, sure.

PPMS can hold a lot of cars, and if someone came to them wanting to offer another provisional, I wouldn't doubt they'd do it. They did Rocket because it's a Rocket heavy area.[/QUOTe

excellent post CnB fan. I have never been to PPMS, but I can see where it can hold a ton of cars. I assume all of us as race fans want a level of competitiveness, fairness, and good old school competition. That's why we all love dirt track racing and shun NASCAR (or the current version of NASCAR). Sponsoring one of the provisional spots is fine. Heck, adding money to the overall purse and making an announcement about would be fine. A provisional with a stipulation that it goes to one of my customers is sketchy though. Maybe that stipulation wasn't Mark's idea, but the idea of the promoter when he was trying to pitch it Mark. And, If it is a Rocket heavy area, then why is there even a need to make the stipulation that a Rocket customer gets it?? Again, thanks for the post.

[Snake X3]

I'm not sure what a star gazer is, but I don't think you realize how unprofessional the sport of dirt late model racing is as a whole. There is no more impropriety to this provisional than many other aspects of the sport. Definitely not worth getting worked up over.

I'm with you. If Miley and a few others don't understand the point people were making there's not much we can do about it. I've said this about WoO and their inverts (shockingly even Rigsby has finally come out against them) and other gimmicks that give advantages to cars/drivers that didn't earn them on the track. This is a sport. In order for people to have respect for it, there has to be a level playing field.

This is really a small, small thing. HOWEVER, every time you cast even the smallest shadow of a doubt on the integrity of the competition...of it being fair and equal for all, then you start having NA$$CAR issues.

If some people don't get it and just hurl insults, well there ain't much that can be said to make them see it. They see it their way just like I see things my way. If we can't discuss them then that's pretty sad. We're all fans of the sport. Sometimes I think people forget that we have more in common with each other then we do with the general population and even if we're on different sides of an issue, we all still want the same thing...a strong sport with FAIR competition to settle who is best on the track.

[Phatdaddy]

I'm with you. If Miley and a few others don't understand the point people were making there's not much we can do about it. I've said this about WoO and their inverts (shockingly even Rigsby has finally come out against them) and other gimmicks that give advantages to cars/drivers that didn't earn them on the track. This is a sport. In order for people to have respect for it, there has to be a level playing field.

This is really a small, small thing. HOWEVER, every time you cast even the smallest shadow of a doubt on the integrity of the competition...of it being fair and equal for all, then you start having NA$$CAR issues.

If some people don't get it and just hurl insults, well there ain't much that can be said to make them see it. They see it their way just like I see things my way. If we can't discuss them then that's pretty sad. We're all fans of the sport. Sometimes I think people forget that we have more in common with each other then we do with the general population and even if we're on different sides of an issue, we all still want the same thing...a strong sport with FAIR competition to settle who is best on the track.

^^^^ Post of the year! ^^^

[Josh Bayko]

I guarantee this wouldn’t be an issue if the Carpenters had paid for a Kryptonite provisional, even though it would have applied to only one car that was there.

[Snake X3]

For some reason I can't quote Josh's post, but I ask you this question...why do you think that is the case? I agree with you. I think some people will take any opportunity to rip on Richards/Rocket, but why is that? There must be a reason.

I ask these types of questions all the time because I don't know. Like I don't know why people hate on Bobby Pierce or Darryl Lanigan. I can understand some people not liking different drivers. I can understand why people don't like Bloomquist but some guys get a lot more hate than they seem to warrant. So why do you think people jump all over Rocket buying a spot in a race for a customer but they wouldn't do so if it were Kryptonite?


^^^^ Post of the year! ^^^

Thanks. You made a few good posts in this thread yourself. :)

[Josh Bayko]

For some reason I can't quote Josh's post, but I ask you this question...why do you think that is the case? I agree with you. I think some people will take any opportunity to rip on Richards/Rocket, but why is that? There must be a reason.

I ask these types of questions all the time because I don't know. Like I don't know why people hate on Bobby Pierce or Darryl Lanigan. I can understand some people not liking different drivers. I can understand why people don't like Bloomquist but some guys get a lot more hate than they seem to warrant. So why do you think people jump all over Rocket buying a spot in a race for a customer but they wouldn't do so if it were Kryptonite?

I think there’s a few reasons why Rocket catches so much sh*t.

Mark Richards himself is kind of an abrasive, no nonsense kind of guy in a sport full off good ole’ boys. I get where the racing community might be turned off by that, but if you’re going to be successful in business (and Rocket Chassis is extremely succesful, and has been since pretty much day one) you have to minimize your tolerance for bullsh*t. Every success story, regardless of whichever industry we’re talking has a ton of detractors. It’s not at all surprising it’s that dirt late model racing isn’t somehow exempt from that train of thought.

I think it’s also because a lot of people feel that Rocket has too much power in the industry. That’s a fair criticsm. They do have a ton of influence, and they’re not afraid to throw it around when neccesary. Thing is, give most people that kind of influence, they’re going to use it. To be fair, others with that kind of stroke do tend to catch as much sh*t as Rocket. There is equal opportunity hate there, see Bloomquist, Scott.

And lastly, I just think all that success that I referenced before just breeds a certain amount of relatively irrational hate. We see it in all walks of life, the person or entity that consistently is at the very top just isn’t very well liked. For an example with Rocket, they came out with that air shock that’s actually more affordable than current shocks, and somehow it’s the worst thing ever.

[a25rjr]

Couldn't reply with quote Josh, but your post was spot on.......esp the last paragraph!

Everybody HATES a winner! Always has been, always will be!

btw.....Go Bloomer!

[fastford]

buying a spot in a race of any kind is just wrong to me period , but thats just me......

[Highside Hustler25]

Couldn't reply with quote Josh, but your post was spot on.

I couldn't quote his post either but it was 100% spot on.

[Snake X3]

@Josh - Thanks for the tremendous post. That answers that question.

[NormP]

If some people don't get it and just hurl insults, well there ain't much that can be said to make them see it.

The insults don't bother me, I can take them as well as I dish them out, so I just laugh and drive on. Plus it's easy to predict who they will come from and over what topics if you hang out around here long enough, as you probably know from being around 4m for a while.


A Mark Richards provisional at a track that is Rocket-heavy just doesn't move my needle enough to get worked up over. He's a smart businessman like Josh said, and you don't get as successful as him by twisting in the winds of internet message board gossip.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Fukin quote option ain't working again but that last post man, major props, well said.

[ptown]

Fukin quote option ain't working again but that last post man, major props, well said.

Wash your mouth out with soap boy!

[Bigdirtfan]

Oh man somehow i missed this thread, very interesting subject. Personally i think its pretty lame to buy a provisional for a certain type of chassis. I found it fascinating that both parties involved felt compelled to post on here. Obviously, those two men can do whatever they want, and its nice to have another car in the field and nice of mark richards to give some money back to the sport. That being said its still lame and imagine if this was done at every track by every chassis.

[ptown]

I also found it fascinating that both parties involved took the time to respond. Mark Richards had a very classy well thought out response, on the other hand the Matt Miley response was confrontational and insulting showing all here that he’s an idiot with no idea what public relations means to a racetrack. My thoughts are the Rocket provisional is not that big a deal but I can see where it doesn’t look good and could rub some the wron way.

[a25rjr]

I don't have a problem with it at all! It puts 1 more local, most likely, racer in the big show!

This could be the start of something significant. Let Lucas/Woo obtain the sponsorship from all of the chassis mfgrs and put more racers/money in the big shows!

Well done, Mark Richards and Rocket Chassis!

[ptown]

I don't have a problem with it at all! It puts 1 more local, most likely, racer in the big show!

This could be the start of something significant. Let Lucas/Woo obtain the sponsorship from all of the chassis mfgrs and put more racers/money in the big shows!

Well done, Mark Richards and Rocket Chassis!

So they all pay x amount of money to insure at least one of their cars are in the feature?

[a25rjr]

So they all pay x amount of money to insure at least one of their cars are in the feature?

Whats wrong with that?

Why not have 3-4 chassis provisionals per race? More money in more racers pockets!

[fastford]

looks like thats putting money in a racers pocket that could not make or earn there way in , i agree with you most of the time , a25rjr , but not on this one......