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Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 07:04 PM
31 lates in the pits.

highgroove
10-13-2017, 07:13 PM
Wheres the fans

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 07:13 PM
Steve Sheppard Jr. is in the B5 tonight. Paul Parker breaks during qualifying.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 07:27 PM
Casebolt loses his right rear wheel during qualifying. Paul Parker will take time after all.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 07:33 PM
Chris Madden sets fast time with a 15.448. All cars ran bottom to middle.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 07:45 PM
Track work in progress now. Mods are up first, lates next.

Cardirt0
10-13-2017, 07:56 PM
Thanks Shiny

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:02 PM
Heat 1 rolling out now. 3 heats tonight.

TackyTracker
10-13-2017, 08:04 PM
I see tom smith is racing tonight

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:09 PM
Heat 1 finish: Madden, Brandon Sheppard, Eckert, Babb, Larson, Frank, Feger, Smith, Hayes, Kupsik, Wells (DNS). One lane track at the moment.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:12 PM
Heat 2: Caution on lap 1 as Josh Anderson loses an engine. Lap will count. Clanton, Erb Jr., Erb, Mataragas, Pierce.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:15 PM
Heat 2: Caution on lap 4 as Herb Reich slows. 25 28 91 1m 32

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:17 PM
Heat 2: Caution on lap 4 again as Tyler Erb spins in turn 4 at the restart. 25 28 1m 32 11 10 83 91. 6 to go.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:18 PM
Back to green.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:20 PM
Heat 2 finish: Clanton, Erb Jr., Mataragas, Pierce, Erb, Parker, Doar, Williams, Reich, Anderson.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:24 PM
Heat 3: Caution on lap 1 for a big crash in turn 2 involving Chad Simpson, Boom Briggs, Steve Sheppard Jr., Steve Casebolt, and Bobby Gash. Complete restart.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:25 PM
Simpson is going off on the hook. Sheppard Jr. went to the pits and came right back out.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:27 PM
Back to green.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:29 PM
Heat 3: Caution on lap 4 for debris. Bobby Gash went to the infield with mechanical problems. 6 to go. 99jr 9 14m 89 c9 b5 77

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:32 PM
Heat 3 finish: Heckenast Jr., Moran, Spatola, Bagley, Casebolt, Sheppard Jr., Pastva, Gash, Chad Simpson, Briggs.

ptown
10-13-2017, 08:33 PM
You there, how’s the track conditions?

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:36 PM
One lane on the bottom.

Cardirt0
10-13-2017, 08:40 PM
Watching RM kind of though that... But cant get what you giving so thank agen...

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
10-13-2017, 08:45 PM
Thanks for updates ssu18

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:51 PM
Track work now, B-Main next. Top 4 transfer.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 08:55 PM
B-Main is scratched. All cars will start.

rickybrown1952
10-13-2017, 09:03 PM
Thanks for the updates

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:12 PM
Redraw: 1. Madden 2. Erb Jr. 3. Heckenast Jr. 4. Moran 5. Clanton 6. Sheppard

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:13 PM
Track work wrapping up. Modified feature will run first.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:33 PM
Track equipment is back on the track after the modified feature as the late models line up in the chute.

Cardirt0
10-13-2017, 09:36 PM
Go Erb kick some A$$

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:43 PM
50 lap A-Main is rolling out now.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:48 PM
Green flag!

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:49 PM
Madden grabs the early lead as Dennis Erb Jr drops like a rock.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:51 PM
Lap 10: 44 99jr 25c 7 1. Erb Jr drops out.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:56 PM
Lao 18. Caution as Steve Sheppard Jr comes to a stop in turn 4. 32 to go. 44 99jr 25c 1 7 9 89 b1 1m 32p. Brandon Sheppard has the fastest car and is seemingly the only one that can make up ground.

intel8
10-13-2017, 09:57 PM
This sucks! Wow....

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:57 PM
Steve Sheppard Jr was hit in the head by debris. Rick Eschelman says driver is OK.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 09:59 PM
Back to green.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:02 PM
Caution on lap 19 as Steve Casebolt slows in turn 2. 44 99jr 25c 7 1 9 89 1m 32 18b b1 14 91 25s 25f 18w 11 27 2 1*. 31 to go.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:04 PM
Halfway: 44 99jr 7 25c 1

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:05 PM
Madden has checked out. 3.5 second lead.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:07 PM
Caution on lap 30 as Heckenast Jr slows on the frontstretch. 44 7 25c 1 32p 9 18b b1 91 25s 1m 14 25f 18w 27 2. 20 to go.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:08 PM
Back to green.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:11 PM
10 to go: 44 7 9 32p 25 1

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:13 PM
Caution on lap 41 as Shannon Babb spins out of 7th place. 44 7 9 32p 1 25c 91 b1 25s 14 25f 18w 1m 18b 1* 27 2. 9 to go.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:14 PM
Back to green.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:17 PM
Finish: Chris Madden leads all 50 laps at Joliet.

Chris Thomason
10-13-2017, 10:18 PM
Awesome. Good job as always. Thanks for doing it. Tough break for Frankie at home...

Safe travels

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:19 PM
Final run down: 44 7 1 9 32p 91 b1 25c 14 18w 25s 1m 25f 18b 1* 27 2 99jr 89 11 c9 b5 83 28 42t

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
10-13-2017, 10:25 PM
Check them tires!

Illtsate32
10-13-2017, 10:28 PM
How was the racing in the feature

Shiny Side Up 18
10-13-2017, 10:34 PM
How was the racing in the featurePretty tame up front. Track was just starting to come in at the end.

Barbecueboy
10-14-2017, 06:54 AM
We will know the final rundown in a week or two..........how exciting.

ptown
10-14-2017, 08:38 AM
Check them tires!

Yea a known and convicted tire cheater wins, imagine that.

Krooser
10-14-2017, 09:40 AM
Thanks Shiney... almost like being there!

chupp n bloomer fan
10-14-2017, 11:00 AM
My picks were doing good, and broke. Gambled to try and gain points and it was working till they broke. Had 99jr, and Babb.

bullring
10-14-2017, 11:44 AM
How exactly did that Madden tire suspension work? It doesn't seem like it's been 30 days since they announced the suspension.

Highside Hustler25
10-14-2017, 12:19 PM
Yea a known and convicted tire cheater wins, imagine that.

A known and convicted tire cheater still gets to race. Tell me things aren't F@#$%ed UP!

chupp n bloomer fan
10-14-2017, 02:07 PM
How exactly did that Madden tire suspension work? It doesn't seem like it's been 30 days since they announced the suspension.30 days from the date of the infraction.

bullring
10-14-2017, 02:34 PM
30 days from the date of the infraction.

But didn't he race during that time? Seems like if suspension isn't announced until 30 days after the infraction it really isn't a penalty.

Shiny Side Up 18
10-14-2017, 02:39 PM
WRG takes care of its own.

TheJet-09
10-14-2017, 02:42 PM
^^^ I feel the same way as Bullring. The story said he got to race at the end of September under a "deferral" while the lab results of his tire samples were evaluated (or examined, something like that). So assuming the results were upheld, why aren't those three days he was allowed to race in September then added to the end of the original sentence?

And don't get me wrong, I don't really care if he races or not, but it sort of makes a mockery of the penalty system. I look at it like the Ezekiel Elliot deal in football. They found a Judge that put a hold on the suspension, so he could play, but now that another Judge/s say no to that, he will still have to sit out the original 6 games. They're not going to count the five weeks he got to play as part of the suspension, and only sit him for one additional game.

Maybe the penalties in racing need to be a number of races, and not a time frame. The way it is, it's like when MLB sits down a pitcher for 5 or 6 games. Big deal! They most likely only miss one start, at the most. What if it had rained for the entire month of his suspension? It really wouldn't have suspended him from anything then.

Highside Hustler25
10-14-2017, 05:35 PM
How exactly did that Madden tire suspension work? It doesn't seem like it's been 30 days since they announced the suspension.

The suspension should have started Sept 28th. That's when WRG went public with the accusations.

chupp n bloomer fan
10-14-2017, 06:21 PM
But didn't he race during that time? Seems like if suspension isn't announced until 30 days after the infraction it really isn't a penalty.Oh, I didn't say it wasn't fuked up and some home cooking.

The fact that he is still second in points is total BS. Look at the 5 from a couple years ago, 4m and WRG were going to hang em from a tree. Far as I can tell he lost about $15k supposedly and that's it. Or Josh and Best and what happened with LaSalle. Yeah, it wreaks to high heaven.

onlyfacts
10-15-2017, 10:59 AM
^^^ I feel the same way as Bullring. The story said he got to race at the end of September under a "deferral" while the lab results of his tire samples were evaluated (or examined, something like that). So assuming the results were upheld, why aren't those three days he was allowed to race in September then added to the end of the original sentence?And don't get me wrong, I don't really care if he races or not, but it sort of makes a mockery of the penalty system. I look at it like the Ezekiel Elliot deal in football. They found a Judge that put a hold on the suspension, so he could play, but now that another Judge/s say no to that, he will still have to sit out the original 6 games. They're not going to count the five weeks he got to play as part of the suspension, and only sit him for one additional game.Maybe the penalties in racing need to be a number of races, and not a time frame. The way it is, it's like when MLB sits down a pitcher for 5 or 6 games. Big deal! They most likely only miss one start, at the most. What if it had rained for the entire month of his suspension? It really wouldn't have suspended him from anything then.I copied this right off of the ump DIRTcar website from the PR that explains Maddens penalty........>N.) Any member that attempts and/or is found to be using tires that are found to be illegal in any manner will be suspect to disqualification and/or fine and/or suspension and/or loss of points and/or any other action deemed appropriate by DIRTcar Officials and/or World Racing Group Supervisory Officials. The minimum penalty for any (chemically) altered tire will be as follows: disqualification from the event, and/or a fine up to 1,000 championship or track points, loss of all earned purse and/or reward money from the event, a fine equal to and/or more than the purse money rewarded for the event and/or a minimum suspension of 1 month (minimum or 4 races) up to six (6) months in duration.>e) A suspension from all sanctioned DIRTcar Late Model events, including World of Outlaws 
Craftsman Late Models Series, for thirty (30) consecutive days (September 10, 2017 
through October 10, 2017).>All the other WOO drivers should be furious.

onlyfacts
10-15-2017, 11:14 AM
I really don't understand why WRG keeps make it look bad for themselves. The way they handled the deal with Josh/Best at LaSalle and now this Madden penalty makes you wonder who is incharge of these stupid decisions. Late Model racing needs good decision/rules makers and good people to make sure the rules are the same for everyone not stuff like this. How will it be handle next time? Guess it will matter who it is. Total Disgrace to all the other competitors with WOO as well as all the other competitors that were at Eldora.

onlyfacts
10-15-2017, 11:33 AM
But didn't he race during that time? Seems like if suspension isn't announced until 30 days after the infraction it really isn't a penalty.He raced in Kansas and Oklahoma during that time. It just so happened the penalty wasn't made public till a few days after those races. What's different this time from all other suspension penalties with WRG is the suspension always started after the appeal now they come up with some BS that it was in defferal. What it really boils down to there was no suspension. So if they were smart 🙄 they should have swept it under the rug if they weren't going to recognize the 30 day suspension.

Bubstr
10-15-2017, 12:04 PM
Just another Weasel move by WRG. No results from the tire test and a shady suspension, not saying he deserved a suspension. There was no proof published. WRG keeps looking more shady all the time. They change the rules as they go. Who needs a sanction like that.

reid boys
10-15-2017, 12:41 PM
The wrg can do nothing right for some of you. They can donate million dollars to fight cancer and find something wrong with that.

onlyfacts
10-15-2017, 01:10 PM
The wrg can do nothing right for some of you. They can donate million dollars to fight cancer and find something wrong with that.They didn't and couldn't donate a million dollars to fight cancer. This is about just being consistent and doing the right thing as a company. They continue to keep doing things wrong when all they have to do is do the right thing. If they would start doing things right then maybe they could start gaining some respect.

bullring
10-15-2017, 07:57 PM
Might as well run some cheated up tires for World Finals. No races for 30 days after that

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
10-15-2017, 08:00 PM
Might as well run some cheated up tires for World Finals. No races for 30 days after that

Good idea br

chupp n bloomer fan
10-15-2017, 08:18 PM
Might as well run some cheated up tires for World Finals. No races for 30 days after that100% true...

ptown
10-15-2017, 08:30 PM
Might as well run some cheated up tires for World Finals. No races for 30 days after that


100% true...

You won’t get paid.

rickybrown1952
10-15-2017, 08:41 PM
^^^ I feel the same way as Bullring. The story said he got to race at the end of September under a "deferral" while the lab results of his tire samples were evaluated (or examined, something like that). So assuming the results were upheld, why aren't those three days he was allowed to race in September then added to the end of the original sentence?And don't get me wrong, I don't really care if he races or not, but it sort of makes a mockery of the penalty system. I look at it like the Ezekiel Elliot deal in football. They found a Judge that put a hold on the suspension, so he could play, but now that another Judge/s say no to that, he will still have to sit out the original 6 games. They're not going to count the five weeks he got to play as part of the suspension, and only sit him for one additional game.Maybe the penalties in racing need to be a number of races, and not a time frame. The way it is, it's like when MLB sits down a pitcher for 5 or 6 games. Big deal! They most likely only miss one start, at the most. What if it had rained for the entire month of his suspension? It really wouldn't have suspended him from anything then.I agree with you especially the latter part when they get a penalty it should be a number of races 4.5 6 race or whatever amount of races not having anything to do with a number of days I think that would get em and would be more fair

TUTY
10-16-2017, 07:18 AM
It should just be open and who cares what u do to your tires. I know that's not the rule but just saying.

Bubstr
10-16-2017, 10:56 AM
The wrg can do nothing right for some of you. They can donate million dollars to fight cancer and find something wrong with that.

Your right, the people with their eyes open can see what is going on and they are tired of it. When Ump started, they promised standardized rules across the country. We can see where that went. The first year the tire rule changed to a larger tire, supposedly because the racers wanted it, but I don't know of one that wanted to buy all new tires. The rules aren't even standard for one race car to the next. And when the racers keep cheating the spoiler height, UMP just raises the height. When the difference in wheel base gets abused, they just rewrite the rule to accommodate that. When Farmer City got robbed by the promoter, UMP. being the good pardner they say, pulled their sanction and the grandfather clause, that allowed a Lucas race. UMP scheduled on top of LaSalle for the big Rockford race, offered Izzo three SN dates the next year. Before that could happen they suspended LaSalle and will probably take his grandfathered Lucas and IMCA races . When Peoria rained out their SN race, that they took from Izzo, UM said less than half the race was official for the books. Now with suspensions with out proof and suspensions that are good for some and bad for others, who can trust them or like them. WRG sucks money out of the sport and gives very little back.

Barbecueboy
10-16-2017, 11:53 AM
Oh, I didn't say it wasn't fuked up and some home cooking.

The fact that he is still second in points is total BS. Look at the 5 from a couple years ago, 4m and WRG were going to hang em from a tree. Far as I can tell he lost about $15k supposedly and that's it. Or Josh and Best and what happened with LaSalle. Yeah, it wreaks to high heaven.

Noooooooooooo.......it's all on the up and up.

Ask anyone