The old 4m

[t3r3e3]

Back when I joined in 06 or so, this place was a great source of info, with a bunch of good natured, informative posters and the occasional character (Czar of Dirt, Bubba Smith, etc). Sadly, we’re down to a few trolls that have ruined this thing. The mods have cracked the whip a bit, but the same clowns show back up under their 5th or 6th user name. They spew venom no matter the situation, and bring little of value to the table. Still lots of good folks here, but the few ruin it for the many and keep good people from coming back.

[plunks7]

Very well said and true.

[fryefan]

Agreed. Unfortunately, the immature folks you are referring to, ruin this forum. You would think people would grow up at some point, but some of them will be losers their whole lives.

[golddirt]

Joined in 00 was very good then.

[TheJet-09]

I've only been around since 2013, but there's a few that cause me to not even open a thread if they were the last to post on it. It's unfortunate, but I get tired of the garbage.

On a similar, unrelated note: At least a few years back, it wasn't uncommon to see 800-900 ads this time of the year with Late Model stuff for sale on Racing Junk. There's currently around 500, and it's not because everyone is keeping their stuff. I'm sure free ads like those on Facebook have an effect, but it's also a sign of the times.

I guess all things are relative.

[CageFaraday]

My bad, when you put old 4m I was thinking a litle further back, like 98-99 when I first joined as "Racer41". I've changed names a few times but not because I was banned, it was the trolls that want to follow you from post to post and say DA things.(Hope Modjr isn't offended by DA) We seem to have swung from total anarchy and trolls running amuck to something more stringent than the Puritan's, at least in regards to language. She's totally unreasonable and her only response is the, "Nuclear Option". Must've got her from North Korea.

[Kwd1253]

CageFaraday about modjr is more fair than most mods in the past, when I first signed up. When I joined if you said anything close hair negative about josh or mark, it was likely you get ban. You wouldn’t get to many warnings about sailor potty mouth language as well. They used to have witch hunts for a old blackford lol.

[Josh Bayko]

I've only been around since 2013, but there's a few that cause me to not even open a thread if they were the last to post on it. It's unfortunate, but I get tired of the garbage.

On a similar, unrelated note: At least a few years back, it wasn't uncommon to see 800-900 ads this time of the year with Late Model stuff for sale on Racing Junk. There's currently around 500, and it's not because everyone is keeping their stuff. I'm sure free ads like those on Facebook have an effect, but it's also a sign of the times.

I guess all things are relative.

I tend to think another reason why there isn’t as many late models on 4M is a lot of these newer cars made of docol tend to last longer, so guys aren’t selling them just yet.

[highgroove]

Thank you..you're spot on... What kills me is, you post a thread about something or someone and it always turns into
a pi$$ing match on something completely different...

[JimBo]

I agree totally. When I signed up in 1997 this WAS the place For information in the Late Model world. Sadly it is a former shell of it's original self.

[golddirt]

And there was truth posted and people would meet up at the trackside now it's just smart Behind keyboards

[W2Racing09]

I've only been around since 2013, but there's a few that cause me to not even open a thread if they were the last to post on it. It's unfortunate, but I get tired of the garbage.

On a similar, unrelated note: At least a few years back, it wasn't uncommon to see 800-900 ads this time of the year with Late Model stuff for sale on Racing Junk. There's currently around 500, and it's not because everyone is keeping their stuff. I'm sure free ads like those on Facebook have an effect, but it's also a sign of the times.

I guess all things are relative.

I do think the Facebook ads are killing almost every other classifieds site. At this point since Marketplace came out its hard to find stuff even on Craigslist, or anywhere. If you go on DLMs for sale on Facebook you will see dozens of new posts daily, more than even Racingjunk in its prime. I like the format of Racingjunk a lot more than Facebook, so its sad, but like you said its a sign of the times.

[fastford]

joined in 99 , same and only user name i have ever had , and even tho she has her clowns and trolls , 4m is still the best dirt forum around IMO........

[fryefan]

Thank you Modjr for trying to clean the place up. It is greatly appreciated.

[CageFaraday]

Thank you Modjr for trying to clean the place up. It is greatly appreciated.

Sucking up won't save you.

[One Man Gang]

Speaking of Bubba smith in the first post whatever happened to him ? I remember years ago they banned him from this site if I'm not mistaken and I've never seen his name on here since.

[grumfan]

One man Gang, I'm not being a smart aleck, but I believe you answered your own question. Old bubba keeps his opinions off here these days. Too bad others that get banned don't do the same.

[NormP]

Speaking of Bubba smith in the first post whatever happened to him ? I remember years ago they banned him from this site if I'm not mistaken and I've never seen his name on here since.

It was a good day when that got rid of that idiot. I wish a few other would get banned and stay away.

[Mindwalker]

A thread dedicated to talking about all the bad posters from the past.... The old days of 4m. Oh the irony in it.... Lol.

[Barbecueboy]

[QUOTE=Mindwalker;2164916]A thread dedicated to talking about all the bad posters from the past.... The old days of 4m. Oh the irony in it.... Lol.[

I see what you did there.......comical

[a25rjr]

A thread dedicated to talking about all the bad posters from the past.... The old days of 4m. Oh the irony in it.... Lol.

Them black ford drivers are troublemakers! :)

[Mindwalker]

How would you know? Your cheby could never keep up with one 😂

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

How would you know? Your cheby could never keep up with one 

There are mopeds that can!

[a25rjr]

How would you know? Your cheby could never keep up with one 

I don't drive raggedy Chebbies!

I only drive
G...greater
M...mans
C...chevy lol!!!

[plunks7]

How would you know? Your cheby could never keep up with one 

I resemble that remark. :)

[t3r3e3]

A thread dedicated to talking about all the bad posters from the past.... The old days of 4m. Oh the irony in it.... Lol.

Says 4m’s Troll in Chief. What are you up to, 6 or 7 usernames? You and Litey are no small reason why some of the good folks left.

[fryefan]

Sucking up won't save you.

Some of us are mature adults and don't need to be saved.

[skicker]

Back around 2000 or so when I 1st joined this was a hotbed.
Now it's almost depressing.
Many who used to be on here would meet at various tracks.
Now everyone's a keyboard smart-ass.
Not sure anyone I used to talk to here is even still around.

[One Man Gang]

Thanks for your answer grumfan I know your reply wasn't meant to be smart. I was a newbie on here around the time that happened but just always seen his name all time when I got on here I was just wondering if he was well hoping nothing health wise had got to him. You never know unless you ask when you don't personally know one another on here I didn't mean nothing malicious by asking about him nor was I aware he had some who wasn't too keen on him I apologize if I offended anyone for asking that question.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Some of us are mature adults and don't need to be saved.

Mature adults and you??? No sir, you are just self appointing yourself to judge others with personal bias. Not cool...

I can't quite give you a good reason but if I were a Mod, I would keep a sharp eye on YOU!!!! hahahahaa

[plunks7]

Mature adults and you??? No sir, you are just self appointing yourself to judge others with personal bias. Not cool...

I can't quite give you a good reason but if I were a Mod, I would keep a sharp eye on YOU!!!! hahahahaa

CW fryfan is good people.

[Clayton_Wetter]

CW fryfan is good people.

Well, okay. I'll give him another chance!!!! :)

[TerryM]

4m at its best was the early years of the late 90's/early 00's, when a lot of DLM media people posted here regularly. By 2005 or so the site was starting to get run down by a few attention-seeking juveniles who decided to make 4m their own personal romper room. It was never the same after that, as most of the media people and a lot of other really good posters got tired of the nonsense and left. I'm thankful that guys like Kelley Carlton and Richard Allen have stuck around all these years. They're two great contributors.

I don't know who moderates this place, but it has improved greatly recently. It's the best it's been in many years. Hopefully it continues in that direction and eventually gets back to the great forum it once was.

[Mindwalker]

Some of us are mature adults and don't need to be saved.

.....throws mic on floor and says no more.

[a25rjr]

.....throws mic on floor and says no more.

Said blackie....ever! :)

[slydejob18]

I agree with you TerryM---I guess I joined in 99 or 00. I remember how great this forum was for late model fans AND competitors. Big change for the worse in mid to late 2000s. Not bad now. Social media behavior on here still frustrating, I give modjr credit though.

Nice to see some older screen names on this thread. Leebo and Bandit are smiling.

Go 18!!

[miso_ohio]

Don't remember when I first joined but I do know I lurked for a few years before I did so. It was a long time ago though, met a lot of really great people here, unfortunately I got sidetracked and sort of grew away from racing the last few years but I do pop in from time to time to see what is up. I know a lot of old friends are very active keeping in touch on Facebook but I stubbornly refuse to go down that Facebook path.

Did not get to a single race last year, I am hoping to change that this year be it Late Model or Sprints since I love em both. I know Mansfield is starting to look like a possibility for me or at the least Attica since I do drive by it about every weekend. I just got to free up some time to do so. It did get very ugly here for quite a while, not here enough to determine if that is getting any better or not, life is too short to deal with and or stress out over things like that.

JAACKIIIIEEEE BOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGSSSS!!!!!!!!