Bobby....

[Mindwalker]

Has he lost his mojo or what? I don't think the new xr1 car is worth a darn because if bobby is always running bad in one it can't be good. Just my observations here now so dont get all huffy and stuff... Gawd!!

[zach51]

Well, when JD wins we have to have somebody else to deflect on huh lol.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Has he lost his mojo or what? I don't think the new xr1 car is worth a darn because if bobby is always running bad in one it can't be good. Just my observations here now so dont get all huffy and stuff... Gawd!!

If they hadn't started from scratch on their whole program and dealt with a death on the team, you might make sense. Instead, you come off as real winner.

[Highside Hustler25]

If they hadn't started from scratch on their whole program and dealt with a death on the team, you might make sense. Instead, you come off as real winner.

Well, he does have the 2 fat chicks goin for him so...

[Mindwalker]

Hasn't ran at all well way before the unfortunate death. Must be the chasses... He used to beat the big dogs in his pierce. And zack ole buddy... Lol, i dont count that jd win official yet so your post dont hold watter bud hahaha. Have a another , on me

I said dont get huffy boys.... Listen up!!

[Highside Hustler25]

Well, when JD wins we have to have somebody else to deflect on huh lol.

Nothing like a mug of Joe, a nice sativa, and listening to a Bloomer fan vent:DGood times:cool:

[Cardirt0]

They said he be fast right off .i did not think that would happen, think its going to take some time to work it out.

[Mindwalker]

Nothing like a mug of Joe, a nice sativa, and listening to a Bloomer fan vent:DGood times:cool:

Ok smart a.. You and i are no longer friends here. What now bi g boy? You are now on block! Like i have ss!

[Mindwalker]

Im back to my fat girls 😝

[Highside Hustler25]

Ok smart a.. You and i are no longer friends here. What now bi g boy? You are now on block! Like i have ss!

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works:rolleyes:

[MI Dirt Fan]

Hasn't ran at all well way before the unfortunate death.

Exactly. One this has nothing to do with the other. They've been lost since Speed Weeks. Maybe they'll drop off and run the SN tour.

[turnleftandgasit]

I would love to jump on the bash Bobby thread but it would be wrong. They are down in the dumps performance and spiritually and will need time to find both. I think they should utilize their strengths, pull off the tour and head for the black dirt tracks he knows. Let Bob figure the XR1 out on their "home tracks", dazzle the SN's again, then carry that into the Southern Nationals. That would leave them pretty versed on the XR1 and ready to hit the big money end of the year races.

[Cardirt0]

Time, Sometimes it just takes Time.

[Centeroff]

I look for Bobby to gas up in Illinois for sure. Just havnt been to any cushion dominant tracks yet. He gets around Florence well and Eldora. Bet he runs good at Lucas oil speedway also. His dad should have had him down south more to sharpen his skills on the southern clay. He may not win one but he will lead some laps!

[Mindwalker]

Exactly. One this has nothing to do with the other. They've been lost since Speed Weeks. Maybe they'll drop off and run the SN tour.

Nevermind thier hate. No way no how did the unfortunate passing ever come to mind when i started this thread. Thats all they got. That and a chasses that ain't working....

[Mindwalker]

I look for Bobby to gas up in Illinois for sure. Just havnt been to any cushion dominant tracks yet. He gets around Florence well and Eldora. Bet he runs good at Lucas oil speedway also. His dad should have had him down south more to sharpen his skills on the southern clay. He may not win one but he will lead some laps!

Good post there centeroffish😎

[Illtsate32]

I will say hes new to these kind of tracks like Hagerstown and Fayetteville, VMS, but I still dont think his lack of expirience has anything to do with it, you guys are right he was junk at East bay too, he has to be frustrated and his confidence at an all time low...

[MI Dirt Fan]

Same thing with Bronson. Of course he's going to run well all week at EastBay. He's turned more laps there than anyone whether it be racing or practice. Now look. He went from 3rd to 9th in the standings quick.

[Swampy121]

I still think he needs to dig up that old Pierce chassis. That xr1 doesn't fit his "ride the cushion for all it's worth" driving style.

[dirtcrazy4u]

BP is on a different shock package. He's going to tracks he has never been too. Excluding speed weeks. For what I saw at G.I.S. BP was over at mark richards pit every time he climbed from the car. He talked to richards, very few words exchanged, he talked to both house car pilots. What I thought was funny, he would scoot back to his pit talk to his dad for a brief moment and I saw nothing change. Mid season is going to tell where that team is. I don't understand why they are not on the same shock package as the house cars. Is BP sr. saying I can make these cars go fast with my setups ?

[Centeroff]

Dirt crazy you might be right. I was at atomic and I noticed his car bouncing/hopping more than others and wasn’t rolling over the right front nearly as much as Richards or Shepherd in the feature. Could be a learning curve or maybe he needs to listen to Richards over pops?

[Slinging]

I seen a few races the pierce raced and looks like he is fighting the steering in that car

[MI Dirt Fan]

Are they doing any testing anywhere during the week? Maybe they need someone like a teammate to actually work together and bounce info off of. Who's to say any of the other rocket guys aren't just blowing some smoke I there face on setups

[Illtsate32]

Are they doing any testing anywhere during the week? Maybe they need someone like a teammate to actually work together and bounce info off of. Who's to say any of the other rocket guys aren't just blowing some smoke I there face on setups

Ive though the same thing... Mark has championship teams in each series one being the team he owns and one being his son...why would he give the secret recipe to Pierce team knowing the talent Pierce possesses and what the outcome could possibly be, that could be me just looking for an excuse, but it has crossed my mind lol...

[Centeroff]

Because Pierce paid retail for a Rocket chassis and that’s the way it should work. I always catch flack when I say it’s a coincidence the man has sold over 5k cars and only 2-4 win on a nationals level. That’s why you have to be smart enough to build your own chit and drive it down their throats!

[Josh Bayko]

They have the wrong shocks on the car. You’re never going to be able to set the car up right with the wrong shocks on it.

[Mindwalker]

Has anyone told them thay ain't got that xr1 race ready?

Won't thay sell 'em the right shock package or what?? Gawd!! Smh

[dirtyboy]

Didn't they try running Lucas a few years back with their own stuff with similar results? Maybe it's the competition week in and week out, and not just hand picking which tracks you wanna race against the big boys at.

[Centeroff]

I didn’t say it! Out loud at least

[Mindwalker]

Didn't they try running Lucas a few years back with their own stuff with similar results? Maybe it's the competition week in and week out, and not just hand picking which tracks you wanna race against the big boys at.

Dude, lol, you're going to start a riot talking that much sense!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Didn't they try running Lucas a few years back with their own stuff with similar results? Maybe it's the competition week in and week out, and not just hand picking which tracks you wanna race against the big boys at.

That was several years ago, before he reached the status he is at now. And he wasn't doing that bad when they dropped off.

[Swampy121]

Didn't they try running Lucas a few years back with their own stuff with similar results? Maybe it's the competition week in and week out, and not just hand picking which tracks you wanna race against the big boys at.

That's the truth, but I'm not gonna back you up when all the angry booby fans come knocking on your door.

[Mindwalker]

I'll be there for you dirtboy 😀

[pierceFAN]

Didn't they try running Lucas a few years back with their own stuff with similar results? Maybe it's the competition week in and week out, and not just hand picking which tracks you wanna race against the big boys at.

it was a money issue...pierce had a good shot at ROY too...after they flipped at Tazwell they were off the tour...hard to drive all over the country when you can race for the same amount in your backyard

[Bubstr]

Here is something to think about. EPJ won 1 maybe 2 races in the last 5 years in the 1 car. Earl didn't forget how to drive, as we can see in his new ride. Bad luck, bad decisions or bad car prep? Who can say? Bobby didn't forget how to drive either. They are not giving Bobby what he needs to win, just like they didn't for EPJ.

If your looking for excuses, there are a lot. Testing. Different car. Different Engine. Most of these tracks, Bobby has never seen before, much less ran a lap. And yes the competition is tough. But those are just excuses.

The key to this is Bob Pierce, a measuring stick and getting threw these new tracks at least once. I expected more, but you don't know what you don't know.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Here is something to think about. EPJ won 1 maybe 2 races in the last 5 years in the 1 car. Earl didn't forget how to drive, as we can see in his new ride. Bad luck, bad decisions or bad car prep? Who can say? Bobby didn't forget how to drive either. They are not giving Bobby what he needs to win, just like they didn't for EPJ.

If your looking for excuses, there are a lot. Testing. Different car. Different Engine. Most of these tracks, Bobby has never seen before, much less ran a lap. And yes the competition is tough. But those are just excuses.

The key to this is Bob Pierce, a measuring stick and getting threw these new tracks at least once. I expected more, but you don't know what you don't know.

Earl is with one of a small group of people capable of fixing his performance. Don't throw the DB team under the bus. It's all different personnel now.

It's not like they fielded junk or had cars falling apart. They just didn't have the right know how making the right calls. Now, the new regime has the same issue. But, seems to slowly be improving.

[nuff said]

Not throwing anyone under the bus,but the team itself for whatever reason just hasn't had the results most people expect for quite awhile. Hope they get things turned around.

[Pennsboro23]

To my knowledge, they fixed the shock issue a couple weeks back. The 32 was in Shinston not too long ago.

[Tireguy17]

Its a new team and chassis for Bobby, and he's racing against 1 of the 2 toughest fields of drivers in the nation who have raced multiple of times at tracks Bobby is probably visiting for the 1st time.

He's tied for 8th in points, and only 60 being T-Mac for 5th. It's going to take time for him to get his feet under him. And Danny Myers as a car chief?! C'mon man.....

[Kwd1253]

Bobby looked pretty good last night that restart messed him up having good top 5 finish. Bobby been up and down with the chassis and team change but I can say this he been racing really clean this season. Think lot people giving him alot grief for no reason and has to high expectation for him/team. First year on national tour haven’t raced on lot of tour tracks. Say he doing better than people give him. He only 60 points behind being in top 5 in points.

[#FALSuperman]

He's also only 30 points from being in 11th place...just playing devils advocate here. Closer to 11th than 5. :) right now it could go either way for the team.

[fastford]

I dont care how many chassis mark richards sells , or how much money you spend , to think he is going to give you his WINNING secretes is ludicrous , no one is going to do that , whether they tell you they will or not........

[Illtsate32]

Its a new team and chassis for Bobby, and he's racing against 1 of the 2 toughest fields of drivers in the nation who have raced multiple of times at tracks Bobby is probably visiting for the 1st time.

He's tied for 8th in points, and only 60 being T-Mac for 5th. It's going to take time for him to get his feet under him. And Danny Myers as a car chief?! C'mon man.....

For those of us not in the know is Danny Myers as car chief a bad thing?

[Josh Bayko]

I dont care how many chassis mark richards sells , or how much money you spend , to think he is going to give you his WINNING secretes is ludicrous , no one is going to do that , whether they tell you they will or not........

To add on to this point, even if Richards did give out the house car set-up word for word, it’s not going to work for everybody, because not everybody drives like Brandon Sheppard.

They key to being consistently fast is tailoring the setup to the weelman, and no two drivers are exactly alike.

[Mindwalker]

Oneil and Bobby are pretty darn close...

[Pennsboro23]

Bayko, Agree 100 percent. I know a local racer here that set his car up exactly like Mark and the rocket house car team did for a race, the driver said he couldn't steer the car in a Walmart parking lot and went back to his set up.

[Mindwalker]

One should never set up and test a car at walmart!

[Mindwalker]

Has bobby been having walmart auto service set his car for him? This could explain alot!!!

[Hollis]

I read where Bobby said he comes home between races. He did not say why. He may be a hired gun but the way they are running i think he should be all in and spend some time in the shop? Anyone think Bob and Bobby want the Pierce car to run. Will their be a change soon?

[Centeroff]

I’m not sure they will ever find a setup to suit Bobby. He won’t give the car time to work or come to him on the bottom or middle. Watch port roral rerun and he was the only car pounding the cushion lap after lap. Ended up knocking the edges off the tires and giving up 2 positions late. At one time when he had some tire left, Richards was in his way. The kid understands how to go fast on a cushion. Best I’ve ever seen at it honestly

[TackyTracker]

I'm hoping Tri-City and Macon are good to the 32 team

[MI Dirt Fan]

Tri City last year was cancelled and not made up. The Macon race was postponed to July and Richards won.

[lernerville nerd]

my 2 cents: 1) multiple people said with these XR1's you can't drive them hard enough, just keep pushing them and they will keep taking it. With that being said I was pretty excited when news broke of BP being in one. On a side note I was just as excited when Feger said he is in one....if the theory was true I thought these two guys were going to be great this year as it seemed like a perfect fit for these guys driving styles. BTW if I remember correctly Shannon Babb didn't light the world on fire in one of these cars either (he is winning races now) and he has a similar driving style. 2) As far as rocket sharing info: Chub Frank ran rockets for years and he came out and said he had to switch chassis because he wasn't getting any info because he was racing against the house car every week (probably the same reason Darrell Lanigan started building his own stuff) 3)When this Dunn Benson deal was first announced BP did say he is moving there then it was said later that he didn't. This may not mean anything but I believe BShepp stays in W.V. as much as he can, and Josh moved to Ohio to work on the Best stuff. 4) I think everyone expected BP to win a bunch, but the truth is there is a lot of factors that go into this. Sometimes it takes time before the wins start coming ( BP, Shannon Babb) and then there are others that make a chassis change and have immediate results ( Culp switching from GRT to XR1) One can never predict this stuff!!

[dirty-white-boy]

Bobby who? Are you talking about that guy that out talented and out dollared the Summernationals the last couple years? The same guy that won the World 100 when the best talent was not allowed to run the World 100? Sure he has had his moments in the sunshine but come on people. No disrespect to the #1 car/team but what have they done lately?
What I do not understand is why Bobby would want to change like this. Everything seemed to be going smooth with his own family deal. Its like when Owens went away from Bloomer. He has never been the same since. The grass is always greener on the other side right?

[MI Dirt Fan]

Bobby who? Are you talking about that guy that out talented and out dollared the Summernationals the last couple years?

Out dollared? Easy now. Some will argue against that on here. lol

[Centeroff]

I heard the family money was getting thin. He had a good opportunity and took it. A team is much more than a driver that’s why it’s a team. Are they on Penske shocks?

[Illtsate32]

If I remember right Shepp was a cushion pounder too and him and Bobby drove a lot alike in their own equipment, is Shepp a more polished driver now after a few years on the tours yes, I never though a chassis switch would throw that big of a curveball, and I never thought car chiefs and crew chiefs play as big a part as they do now days, I guess I thought wrong...

[Bubstr]

Earl is with one of a small group of people capable of fixing his performance. Don't throw the DB team under the bus. It's all different personnel now.

It's not like they fielded junk or had cars falling apart. They just didn't have the right know how making the right calls. Now, the new regime has the same issue. But, seems to slowly be improving.

I may be throwing DB team under the bus to some extent, but, you do your job or you don't. It's not do your job or have bad luck. Excuses are for people that made mistakes. A hall of Fame driver once told me, you ask 3 questions when you come back after a race. Why did I win? Why did I lose and what can I do to make it better? Above all be honest with yourself, or you will always be under that bus.

[Bubstr]

This coming weekend will take some of the variables out of these performance issues. Macon and Tri city have been won by Bobby before.

[Centeroff]

Bobby has to be one of the favorites this weekend imo. Zero is awesome at tri city but Macon has been a curveball. He has won a couple touching the cushion this year so maybe he is practicing for Macon and Florence. Think I might roll with the 32 this week in fantasy if he is group 2

[fastford]

Bayko, Agree 100 percent. I know a local racer here that set his car up exactly like Mark and the rocket house car team did for a race, the driver said he couldn't steer the car in a Walmart parking lot and went back to his set up.

how can you or anyone be sure the car was set up exactly like the house car ? because mark richards said so ? he probably just gave him the generic base line set up , which is about the same through out all the manufacturers these days......

[MI Dirt Fan]

All just blowing a bunch of smoke.

[Swampy121]

Bobby has to be one of the favorites this weekend imo. Zero is awesome at tri city but Macon has been a curveball. He has won a couple touching the cushion this year so maybe he is practicing for Macon and Florence. Think I might roll with the 32 this week in fantasy if he is group 2

Nope. He is still in group 1 which I don't understand. Puts his diehard fans at a points disadvantage.

[Pennsboro23]

how can you or anyone be sure the car was set up exactly like the house car ? because mark richards said so ? he probably just gave him the generic base line set up , which is about the same through out all the manufacturers these days......

He works at Rocket.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Must be Jared Miley?

[MI Dirt Fan]

How about an in car cam?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DpJraumfrDs

[Mindwalker]

He's not driving overly aggressive (dirty) with the new team. That's all it is...

[Highside Hustler25]

If I remember right Shepp was a cushion pounder too and him and Bobby drove a lot alike in their own equipment, is Shepp a more polished driver now after a few years on the tours yes, I never though a chassis switch would throw that big of a curveball, and I never thought car chiefs and crew chiefs play as big a part as they do now days, I guess I thought wrong...

Brandon is still a cushion pounder when needed. As long as his XR1 stays glued to the bottom or middle groove, he's good with it but if the fast way is around the top, he's put er up there a few times this year.
Whatevers the fastest.

[fastford]

He works at Rocket.

Thats cheating penn , lol you win...........

[Hollis]

Change the subject a little. What heck is going on with Erb Jr. Seems to be struggling this year.

[Slinging]

You can't just blame Bobby for running bad in the xr1s...look at owens..he has been in one for 2 years and runs like a rookie...several more have ran bad in them.....

[Centeroff]

Jimmy was 5th in points last year and running a nice second last week. Think he won a couple last year

[Josh Bayko]

Must be Jared Miley?

Jared isn't the only driver that works at Rocket.

[dirty-white-boy]

Family money running thin?

Not selling enough shirts to pay for an entire family's income and store bought chests?

[MI Dirt Fan]

Jared isn't the only driver that works at Rocket.

That's why I put a question mark

[Loopy]

I have been saying for years that nobody is getting the same chassis as the "house cars" ( <------ plural ) these two have hopped into them and were immediately winning for someone to tell me anything different.
Just like someone previously stated this is the reason why Chubb left because he couldn't get a lick of support from them, kind of horse doo way to treat your customers??

[Pennsboro23]

I have been saying for years that nobody is getting the same chassis as the "house cars" ( <------ plural ) these two have hopped into them and were immediately winning for someone to tell me anything different.
Just like someone previously stated this is the reason why Chubb left because he couldn't get a lick of support from them, kind of horse doo way to treat your customers??


I disagree, IMO Rocket will get you close. They at least will point you in the right direction and get you close to what the house team is doing. We always say you can tell who has been in Shinston lately because drivers will start running better as soon as they leave Rocket. A couple that come to mind were Zeigler, and Junghans last season. They went to rocket and ran great right after they left WV, then a month or so later they fall off again when they started doing it their way. But every driver is different and won't run as good as Brandon or Josh with similar set ups.

[Kwd1253]

He's not driving overly aggressive (dirty) with the new team. That's all it is...

Agree with that.. he has race cleanest I have see him race, this season. He only get better as time passes.

[MrsDirtyDan]

For those of us not in the know is Danny Myers as car chief a bad thing?

To answer you question, from someone that is “in the know” NO it is NOT a “bad thing” in any way whatsoever.

Danny was hand picked by the Lamm’s for this job. Carlton and Danny have been friends for more than 20 years. He has wanted Danny on his team for a long time and was thrilled when the opportunity presented itself to get him. Carlton was very happy with Danny’s performance and anyone that spoke with him in these last 3 months knew that. And, I do know without question, Kemp still is very happy.

In addition, I’m going to say this too, Mark Richards gets a bad rap from a lot of people and I’m sure some of that is self inflicted. However, in THIS situation, Mark has been nothing but gracious, patient, and supportive above and beyond.

Now that’s all I got to say about all that. I refuse to use social media personally or via someone else to intentionally attack, spread false information or make insinuations that belittles or damages the careers of another member of OUR sport and industry. ~ Truth will always show itself.

[Illtsate32]

MrsDirtyDan thanks for the info.I dont know Danny im sure he is a good man I myself wasnt trying to be condescending in any way I was just looking for some elaboration on the subject...

[MI Dirt Fan]

I disagree, IMO Rocket will get you close. They at least will point you in the right direction and get you close to what the house team is doing. We always say you can tell who has been in Shinston lately because drivers will start running better as soon as they leave Rocket. A couple that come to mind were Zeigler, and Junghans last season. They went to rocket and ran great right after they left WV, then a month or so later they fall off again when they started doing it their way. But every driver is different and won't run as good as Brandon or Josh with similar set ups.

I'll agree with that. I think Essex said it best during Speedweeks at Easy Bay. If Bshepp could qualify better that would be real scary for the rest of the competition.

[MrsDirtyDan]

MrsDirtyDan thanks for the info.I dont know Danny im sure he is a good man I myself wasnt trying to be condescending in any way I was just looking for some elaboration on the subject...

Thank you. No worries, what I said needed to be said. Mr. Tireguy17 a/k/a Mark Schreiner from Hutchinson, MN Bloomers biggest fan seems to like drinking other people’s Kool-aide 🙄 I prefer to think for myself 👍 Like I said Truth always shows itself. ✌️ peace out