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Illtsate32
06-23-2018, 01:21 AM
Bloomer misses ANOTHER test and they tagged em this time...FAIL

Illtsate32
06-23-2018, 01:59 AM
Said he couldnt give a sample under initial testing and Matt Curl made several attempts to bring him back and he gave him an 11pm deadline and was ignored so, FAIL....

Centeroff
06-23-2018, 02:02 AM
He was hurt from the heat race crash lol

Illtsate32
06-23-2018, 02:05 AM
Did he CO maybe he just said to heck with em, but it says hes disqualified from competition for the weekend...

Planetzer0
06-23-2018, 02:20 AM
I'm not real sure why he even showed up to Lernerville then, knowing this was going to be the outcome.

HoosierDirtFan
06-23-2018, 02:20 AM
Bloomer ducked ANOTHER and they tagged his a** this time..FAIL..now hit the road lol...


Said he couldnt give a sample under initial testing and Matt Curl made several attempts to bring him back and he gave him an 11pm deadline and was ignored so, FAIL....

I had a feeling it would be posted here on 4m with in an hour or so of being released.
Just post the link for the others on 4m!
I red the article an hour ago before it was posted here.
Found no need to post it.
What seems a bit clear is he didn't try to miss it.
Just didn't get back to report for it in time; but I'm sure many will misconstrued what they think happen and what really happen because none of us will ever know for sure.
Sounds like there could have been a miss communication between the team and WOO.
If it was communicated to a team member and not Scott him self and that person forgot to remind him then it would be on that person.
I'm willing to bet we don't nor will we hear the whole ordeal of what actually happen.
It doesn't sound like this was purposely done.
ALSO if it was stated that he would be tested at Lernerville it's not really random which makes me think WOO / WRG /DIRTcar was out for justice anyway you look at it.
Does anyone know how this is all done.
Guess will all know in a couple of days if anything else comes of this.
This could turn into a bad eye for all involved.
WOO already has some b.s. against them in the past with the way they and wrg / DIRTcar go about their business.

Illtsate32
06-23-2018, 02:25 AM
Good for you you knew first lol what you givin me flack for lol woo penalty report stated very clearly what happened doesnt sound at all like ur saying...

Planetzer0
06-23-2018, 02:26 AM
A failed drug test means missing the World 100. It's a 120 day suspension. Scott will get bashed alot for this because he's been the best forever but hopefully he will get the help he needs. It's one thing to make fun of a driver for a failed tire test but when it's a drug test it's a personal issue that needs to be addressed that could effect his entire family.

Illtsate32
06-23-2018, 02:30 AM
I edited my statement if Scott really does have a problem then I hope he gets help all jokes aside dont wish that on anybody...

HoosierDirtFan
06-23-2018, 02:40 AM
Good for you you knew first lol what you givin me flack for lol woo penalty report stated very clearly what happened doesnt sound at all like ur saying...

ILLItsate32
Not trying to give you flack.
If I did it would be worded differently.
What makes you think WOO would post the whole ordeal.
Look at how they handle business in the past.
You really think in this day an age he would risk racing with illegal drugs in his system.
What you heard was what they posted.
We heard their side of it on the report posted on the WOO LMS website.
We don't know what Scott has to say about it.
Also It states the penalty could be reduced to 60 days.
The easiest thing to do is just drink a bottle of water and remember to go take the test once you have to go.

I DON'T BELIEVE A PERSONAL PROBLEM LIKE THIS WOULD OR SHOULD BE ANYONE BUSINESS AND SHOULD BE KEPT IN HOUSE.

Illtsate32
06-23-2018, 02:48 AM
Hoosier I would of posted the link but I dont know how...

HoosierDirtFan
06-23-2018, 02:53 AM
Hoosier I would of posted the link but I dont know how...

HERE I'LL POST IT.
Link to report - http://www.woolms.com/news/latest-news/2432-06-22-18-penalty-report

Centeroff
06-23-2018, 02:55 AM
Wait until this one snowballs. You will hear the truth soon enough but a couple clue word I could use would be Hillary, election, and democrats! Personally, I though he fell again lol

Planetzer0
06-23-2018, 03:03 AM
I would love to hear Scotts side of this story. I would doubt his suspension gets reduced. He's going to miss the USA Nationals and World 100. Might be a good time to get the shoulder surgery and come back healthy next year. When you miss 2 drug tests in 3 weeks there's something not right about that. I've been a Bloomquist fan for 30 years and I hope this isn't how his career ends.

President Clinton
06-23-2018, 03:49 AM
They need Scott worse than he needs them. He is like Dale Earnhardt Sr. was in NASCAR. Love him or hate him, he sells !!!!! He keeps interest in the sport, if you are talking good or bad about him, it is still interest. Seems like a bad business decision to purposely get rid of him?

Krooser
06-23-2018, 05:10 AM
They could move the start of the suspension back so he doesn't miss a race like the W100... it's done in the stick and ball sports all the time especially if there is an appeal.

I realize it's not written in the rules but.....

Maybe Scott doesn't want the word to get about how much Viagra he needs to "get up on the wheel"....

Highside Hustler25
06-23-2018, 05:13 AM
Not sure what's more entertaining. Scottie MIA for another pee test, or a 4m member jealous because someone got the info out there before he could.

You can't make this stuff up. God I love this neighborhood:D

Hoosier_Dirt
06-23-2018, 05:27 AM
Per DoD he is shutting down his racing operation indefinitely to get the shoulder surgery he needs. It is fishy that he is unable to urinate both times called for a drug test. He will be out for a while.

macro646
06-23-2018, 05:44 AM
I hate to be captain obvious here men, but I would bet the ranch that Bloomy is checking himself into rehab for 90 days. We all know Sweet was busted last year with dope. Now it will be interesting to see who he puts in his car while he is away. Per DOD he said he would put someone in his car.

lb_sa
06-23-2018, 06:20 AM
Y’all Bloomer fans crack me up. Great driver, but when ya cheat and you’re on drugs, not sure how that makes you the best ever.

I’ll take Moyer all day. No drugs, no cheating. The Dream should have never been won by this coward.

kazual
06-23-2018, 06:26 AM
Don’t care for his arrogance and lack of respect for other drivers but am amazed at his abilities. Saying all of that anyone that would find glee in his current situation should reconsider their thoughts. It’s a shame for him, his family, and the racing industry in total. Hope he can get some help and rebound, not easily done the older one gets.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 06:33 AM
Guess ya missed the part where he left his wife of 25+ years for I think it is Rayburn’s daughter.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 06:36 AM
I’m glad they finally held him to their rules. While I’ve never agreed with the testing because I think it’s a non issue, it’s their rules, and you play by them. Hopefully whatever he has going on they get squared away.

If he misses the World, that will suck. Took a dump in the poll again too.

Mams
06-23-2018, 06:38 AM
I hate to be captain obvious here men, but I would bet the ranch that Bloomy is checking himself into rehab for 90 days. We all know Sweet was busted last year with dope. Now it will be interesting to see who he puts in his car while he is away. Per DOD he said he would put someone in his car.

Overton just got his ride for rest of year!

lb_sa
06-23-2018, 06:55 AM
I thought I saw a puff of smoke at the Dream come out of Bloomer’s car, guess we know what that was now. Just making sure he’s higher than a kite for 100 laps. Moyer might have 15 globes if he’d link up with Bloomy 😂😂

SHOE32
06-23-2018, 07:09 AM
I'm a bloomer fan but what I don't get is they told him he would be selected for testing at the next WRG race he entered to make up for Eldora,so why even go to lernerville and put himself in the situation. Doesn't make sense. He knew he was gonna be tested.

SHOE32
06-23-2018, 07:11 AM
Ricky Weiss on his way to mooresburg right now?

zyoung25
06-23-2018, 07:16 AM
Not sure what's more entertaining. Scottie MIA for another pee test, or a 4m member jealous because someone got the info out there before he could.

You can't make this stuff up. God I love this neighborhood:D

All you have to do is get on here if you don't have Twitter or Facebook if you want to see what drivers are doing or have done. Between a couple members, it's all covered.

Who needs dirt on dirt?

dirt junkie
06-23-2018, 07:23 AM
In the DoD column it just sounds like Scott is just making excuses again. That’s what addicts do, blame shift. They rarely acknowledge their real problems to the public.
Other than the drug test fiasco I have 2 clues to convince me that he’s on dope.
1) His ole buddy Sweet getting popped for meth last year.
2) Scott and his wife look like crap. Look at pics of them from two years ago and compare them to 2 weeks ago at the dream. They’ve changed drastically
There’s my 2 cents worth. Bash me if you will, I’ve been around a lot of junkies in my day and ole bloomer is fitting the mold

kidrock
06-23-2018, 07:31 AM
Not sure what's more entertaining. Scottie MIA for another pee test, or a 4m member jealous because someone got the info out there before he could.

You can't make this stuff up. God I love this neighborhood:D

Highside yet again I get a good laugh out of your post and your right you can't make this stuff up lol

Mindwalker
06-23-2018, 07:37 AM
Sorry to hear this. Obviously he has something to hide. I bet its just weed tho. Who knows? Maybe he just wont let them test him? Maybe he had to stay just one step of bobby in the bad boy status. ... 😀

dirtyboy
06-23-2018, 07:47 AM
I had a feeling it would be posted here on 4m with in an hour or so of being released.
Just post the link for the others on 4m!
I red the article an hour ago before it was posted here.
Found no need to post it.
What seems a bit clear is he didn't try to miss it.
Just didn't get back to report for it in time; but I'm sure many will misconstrued what they think happen and what really happen because none of us will ever know for sure.
Sounds like there could have been a miss communication between the team and WOO.
If it was communicated to a team member and not Scott him self and that person forgot to remind him then it would be on that person.
I'm willing to bet we don't nor will we hear the whole ordeal of what actually happen.
It doesn't sound like this was purposely done.
ALSO if it was stated that he would be tested at Lernerville it's not really random which makes me think WOO / WRG /DIRTcar was out for justice anyway you look at it.
Does anyone know how this is all done.
Guess will all know in a couple of days if anything else comes of this.
This could turn into a bad eye for all involved.
WOO already has some b.s. against them in the past with the way they and wrg / DIRTcar go about their business.

You have to be the most naive person on the entire planet.

bradc
06-23-2018, 07:47 AM
I’m gonna guess he’s on the way to rehab

SHOE32
06-23-2018, 07:51 AM
Weiss was supposed to be at WCS race last night but was not there. Pretty interesting.

TMaCiLLiNi39
06-23-2018, 07:51 AM
You have to be the most naive person on the entire planet.

I’m glad people are finally seeing the light on this Hack...

Mason87
06-23-2018, 07:53 AM
Sounds like he has a real problem, I've heard all the excuse my whole life from addict's and he sounds just like one. I hate to say that because I've been a fan since I was a kid and all the fans defending him and being naive sounds like the parent's that just don't want to accept the fact their kid is an addict.

Pennsboro23
06-23-2018, 07:55 AM
I had a feeling it would be posted here on 4m with in an hour or so of being released.
Just post the link for the others on 4m!
I red the article an hour ago before it was posted here.
Found no need to post it.
What seems a bit clear is he didn't try to miss it.
Just didn't get back to report for it in time; but I'm sure many will misconstrued what they think happen and what really happen because none of us will ever know for sure.
Sounds like there could have been a miss communication between the team and WOO.
If it was communicated to a team member and not Scott him self and that person forgot to remind him then it would be on that person.
I'm willing to bet we don't nor will we hear the whole ordeal of what actually happen.
It doesn't sound like this was purposely done.
ALSO if it was stated that he would be tested at Lernerville it's not really random which makes me think WOO / WRG /DIRTcar was out for justice anyway you look at it.
Does anyone know how this is all done.
Guess will all know in a couple of days if anything else comes of this.
This could turn into a bad eye for all involved.
WOO already has some b.s. against them in the past with the way they and wrg / DIRTcar go about their business.

Stop......

ptown
06-23-2018, 07:57 AM
Sounds like he has a real problem, I've heard all the excuse my whole life from addict's and he sounds just like one. I hate to say that because I've been a fan since I was a kid and all the fans defending him and being naive sounds like the parent's that just don't want to accept the fact their kid is an addict.

Probably pain killers, hope he gets some help after his surgery.

BloomerHarvickFan
06-23-2018, 07:59 AM
I really hope he takes his time off to sort out whatever needs sorting out in his life. He's probably the greatest driver we'll all ever see, but if he had the discipline and focus to match that talent, he'd be at 700 or 800 wins not 600.
It seems there's always turmoil around him. Whether the help, the tests, or what have you.
I have been a diehard fan since 1993, and seen him race all over.
If you look back to when he got in trouble back then, he deflected. "a girl got him to do something he'd never done before"....he was being set up, etc. Then the deal after Cedar Lake....it was in the rig but was someone else's....just so much swirling around him for so long. Take the time, get surgery, get clean if need be, get focused, lose about 50 lbs and get in better shape than you've ever been in......come back in 2019 and take no prisoners.

Mason87
06-23-2018, 08:02 AM
Me to, I've seen pain killers take a lot of people down and it's only getting worse.

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 08:13 AM
Had a friend die from pain killers last year its not a good thing. If hes on them for pain I feel sorry for him, they grab you and dont let go dont matter Who you are, and they can kill you. Good luck to him if he is. Dont matter Who you are they can kill you and you cant stop.

#FALSuperman
06-23-2018, 08:13 AM
Glad Matt Curl stuck to the rules, and not bending them for a legend of dirt track racing. Also, fan or not, most will agree after this, McDowell should've been 100K richer. That's 80K light in his pocket based on a fishy story at best by the Zero Hero.

getinit
06-23-2018, 08:14 AM
I had a feeling it would be posted here on 4m with in an hour or so of being released.
Just post the link for the others on 4m!
I red the article an hour ago before it was posted here.
Found no need to post it.
What seems a bit clear is he didn't try to miss it.
Just didn't get back to report for it in time; but I'm sure many will misconstrued what they think happen and what really happen because none of us will ever know for sure.
Sounds like there could have been a miss communication between the team and WOO.
If it was communicated to a team member and not Scott him self and that person forgot to remind him then it would be on that person.
I'm willing to bet we don't nor will we hear the whole ordeal of what actually happen.
It doesn't sound like this was purposely done.
ALSO if it was stated that he would be tested at Lernerville it's not really random which makes me think WOO / WRG /DIRTcar was out for justice anyway you look at it.
Does anyone know how this is all done.
Guess will all know in a couple of days if anything else comes of this.
This could turn into a bad eye for all involved.
WOO already has some b.s. against them in the past with the way they and wrg / DIRTcar go about their business.

Matt Curl is as good of a person as you'll ever find. Absolutely no reason to doubt his word.

#FALSuperman
06-23-2018, 08:17 AM
Had a friend die from pain killers last year its not a good thing. If hes on them for pain I feel sorry for him, they grab you and dont let go dont matter Who you are, and they can kill you. Good luck to him if he is. Dont matter Who you are they can kill you and you cant stop.I agree! Look at these wrestlers that get addicted to pain killers. Chris Benoit is a prime example.

getinit
06-23-2018, 08:18 AM
Had a friend die from pain killers last year its not a good thing. If hes on them for pain I feel sorry for him, they grab you and dont let go dont matter Who you are, and they can kill you. Good luck to him if he is. Dont matter Who you are they can kill you and you cant stop.

Is it the pain killers themselves or the addiction to them that pushes you into other, more harmful, drugs? JW

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 08:21 AM
So, Bloomer was already told he would be tested this weekend, but he still shows up. Its a WOO race why would he risk it? Why would he waste all that money getting there?

Bloomer is a WHOLE lot smarter than that, esp with his money!

Sorry, some of you with your hatred and jealousy just wont ever get it!

HoosierDirtFan
06-23-2018, 08:22 AM
Not sure what's more entertaining. Scottie MIA for another pee test, or a 4m member jealous because someone got the info out there before he could.

You can't make this stuff up. God I love this neighborhood:D

I'm not jealous one bit. I didn't see the need to post something personal like this posted all over the internet! I seen it when STL magazine Facebook page shared it.
GOOD DAY.

HoosierDirtFan
06-23-2018, 08:29 AM
Matt Curl is as good of a person as you'll ever find. Absolutely no reason to doubt his word.

Your correct he is that darn nice. I'm not doubting his word. I just don't trust WOO / WRG / DIRTcar with their line of b.s. over the years.

getinit
06-23-2018, 08:29 AM
So, Bloomer was already told he would be tested this weekend, but he still shows up. Its a WOO race why would he risk it? Why would he waste all that money getting there?

Bloomer is a WHOLE lot smarter than that, esp with his money!

Sorry, some of you with your hatred and jealousy just wont ever get it!

OK, so with that logic why would Pierce run a doped tire? After all, everyone knows they test them at eldora. I'm not saying Scott or Bobby are guilty, but if you're gonna use that reasoning to defend Scott why not use it to defend Pierce? Is it because you like one and not the other?

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 08:31 AM
Is it the pain killers themselves or the addiction to them that pushes you into other, more harmful, drugs? JW

There are no harder Drugs. If you seen a friend on them you know what I know, they can take over your life. They are some of the worst drugs there is when it comes to overwhelm you. I live with the pain i have cause, I have seen what they do to you is worst then the pain.

nuff said
06-23-2018, 08:31 AM
So, Bloomer was already told he would be tested this weekend, but he still shows up. Its a WOO race why would he risk it? Why would he waste all that money getting there?

Bloomer is a WHOLE lot smarter than that, esp with his money!

Sorry, some of you with your hatred and jealousy just wont ever get it!

He seems to think he can do what he wants when he wants,rules or no rules. It usually works out for him,this time it didn't go his way. This ordeal is easily seen as what it is.Unless you just refuse to see it.

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 08:32 AM
OK, so with that logic why would Pierce run a doped tire? After all, everyone knows they test them at eldora. I'm not saying Scott or Bobby are guilty, but if you're gonna use that reasoning to defend Scott why not use it to defend Pierce? Is it because you like one and not the other?

Ive never said Pierce was guilty. Im not a believer in their methodology of their tire tests...not the lab, but wrg!

HoosierDirtFan
06-23-2018, 08:33 AM
Ernie
Stick a sock in it. You have no room to talk what so ever when you talk about class. You've put down more people on Facebook then anyone with your classless comments towards folks.

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 08:34 AM
OK, so with that logic why would Pierce run a doped tire? After all, everyone knows they test them at eldora. I'm not saying Scott or Bobby are guilty, but if you're gonna use that reasoning to defend Scott why not use it to defend Pierce? Is it because you like one and not the other?

Not even close to the same thing. One is cause you think you need them. They other is cause you think you need it to win.

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 08:35 AM
He seems to think he can do what he wants when he wants,rules or no rules. It usually works out for him,this time it didn't go his way. This ordeal is easily seen as what it is.Unless you just refuse to see it.

Were you there.........case closed!

Mindwalker
06-23-2018, 08:36 AM
Man look at the Bloomer haters come out of the woodwork now!!!! Lmao......

Attack a man when he is down. Wusses!

nuff said
06-23-2018, 08:36 AM
Were you there.........case closed!

The case is closed alright,and I'm not suspended.

HoosierDirtFan
06-23-2018, 08:37 AM
When you talk about doped tires I don't think bobby is guilty. I thing possible something happen with that tire going through something. Think some may have been falsely accused but where never really going to know for sure. I believe they need to switch labs for tire testing.

CageFaraday
06-23-2018, 08:37 AM
Nobody knows for sure whats going on, but those closest to SBR and they aren't talking. All we do know is "Scott" missed a non-random test at Eldora, but had a doctors note from ER, which was accepted by officials. Scott was notified he would be "non-random" tested for sure at Lernerville and with this knowledge still showed up, but failed to show up for test. Its true that addicts do make irrational decisions and display bizarre desperate behaviors that eventually betray them to everyone else. Logically it makes no sense to show up to Lernerville with junk in your system knowing full well they're gonna test you, but substance abuse interferes with logic. He's also had plenty of time to flush his sytem since The Dream too. There is also an undeniable history of drug and substance abuse in his past and in some of those around him too. I'm not gonna call anyone naive or anything else for not immediately drawing the conclusion that drug abuse "IS" definitely what's going on with Scott right now. WE DON'T KNOW...

As to who will drive his car, my bet is no one will. If its rehab he's off to I wish him well, addiction is a terrible thing. If it's shoulder surgery then I wish him well with that too. In reality I'm not a Bloomquist fan, but I admire his accomplishments, dogged determination and hard work, the results speak for themselves. Lastly I'm not a fan of WRG either and especially so called, "Random Drug Screens", that's a lie. I've worked places in management and seen it abused many times. They single someone out they want to target and then pick 2 others they know are clean. Nothing random about that. Its one thing for an "employer" to want to have a clean work force, but racers aren't employee's, they are independent contractors. Personally I'd rather see drug laws abolished and ditch the DEA and take that money to put towards education and rehabilitation, instead of incarceration and stigma. I would rather see some sort of sobriety, motor skills assessment before the race and after suspicious track incidents. We don't need huge amounts of negative publicity on any driver in my view, it hurts us all. JMO

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 08:38 AM
Ernie
Stick a sock in it. You have no room to talk what so ever when you talk about class. You've put down more people on Facebook then anyone with your classless comments towards folks.

class he has no Id what that even is LOL Ernie just have your 10 Hot dog and then you cant speak with your mouth full.

getinit
06-23-2018, 08:39 AM
There are no harder Drugs. If you seen a friend on them you know what I know, they can take over your life. They are some of the worst drugs there is when it comes to overwhelm you. I live with the pain i have cause, I have seen what they do to you is worst then the pain.

It was a serious question. Thankfully I've never had the need for pain killers over any length of time so I didn't know. I was just always under the impression that they led into heroin, etc..... and that's what caused death.

Thanks for the reply

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 08:40 AM
The case is closed alright,and I'm not suspended.

The only thing closed is your mind!

Mindwalker
06-23-2018, 08:41 AM
Ernie
Stick a sock in it. You have no room to talk what so ever when you talk about class. You've put down more people on Facebook then anyone with your classless comments towards folks.

Amen to all that truth!

nuff said
06-23-2018, 08:42 AM
The only thing closed is your mind!
Pot........meet kettle.

TMaCiLLiNi39
06-23-2018, 08:43 AM
Amen to all that truth!

Say what you want... but HoosierDirt is still the clown getting mad that he isn’t being credited with “Breaking News”... cmon Phil, even you have to find that hilarious

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 08:45 AM
It was a serious question. Thankfully I've never had the need for pain killers over any length of time so I didn't know. I was just always under the impression that they led into heroin, etc..... and that's what caused death.

Thanks for the reply

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drug-overdose-deaths-heroin-opioid-prescription-painkillers-more-than-guns/
kills more people then Guns

Barbecueboy
06-23-2018, 08:47 AM
When you talk about doped tires I don't think bobby is guilty. I thing possible something happen with that tire going through something. Think some may have been falsely accused but where never really going to know for sure. I believe they need to switch labs for tire testing.

It's not the lab that's the problem.....it's the inconsistencies in the tire and the jugheads doing the collecting.

turnleftandgasit
06-23-2018, 08:49 AM
It was a serious question. Thankfully I've never had the need for pain killers over any length of time so I didn't know. I was just always under the impression that they led into heroin, etc..... and that's what caused death.

Thanks for the reply

Pills can lead to heroin because of cost. Once the addiction requires more pills than you are prescribed, you start buying them on the black market. This is far more expensive both in actual cost per pill and your dealer doesn't take your insurance. Once you start being unable to support your habit, you turn to the cheaper alternative. Most start by snorting heroin, as that lets them think they have things under control, as "only junkies shoot up". As the addiction keeps ramping up, they will eventually stick the needle in their arm.

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 08:50 AM
It's not the lab that's the problem.....it's the inconsistencies in the tire and the jugheads doing the collecting.

Ole Johnny Cochran would have a field day with this!

He could even get Bloomer off! :)

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 08:53 AM
It's not the lab that's the problem.....it's the inconsistencies in the tire and the jugheads doing the collecting.

Yep Tire setting on car in a shop that has 20 or more Cem. use in a shop ever day and you think some of it will not get on the tire. LOL

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 08:56 AM
Pills can lead to heroin because of cost. Once the addiction requires more pills than you are prescribed, you start buying them on the black market. This is far more expensive both in actual cost per pill and your dealer doesn't take your insurance. Once you start being unable to support your habit, you turn to the cheaper alternative. Most start by snorting heroin, as that lets them think they have things under control, as "only junkies shoot up". As the addiction keeps ramping up, they will eventually stick the needle in their arm.

https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/prescriptionpainkilleroverdoses/index.html
most OD be for they get that far.

B_K
06-23-2018, 08:56 AM
Just clicked for the comments. Did not disappoint.

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 09:02 AM
Painkillers can be as bad they hurt just as meany people as they help. They need to be outlawed. or controlled better.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 09:03 AM
Pills can lead to heroin because of cost. Once the addiction requires more pills than you are prescribed, you start buying them on the black market. This is far more expensive both in actual cost per pill and your dealer doesn't take your insurance. Once you start being unable to support your habit, you turn to the cheaper alternative. Most start by snorting heroin, as that lets them think they have things under control, as "only junkies shoot up". As the addiction keeps ramping up, they will eventually stick the needle in their arm.You are absolutely correct. I’d love to see unbiased studies that say Oxy and other painkillers are any better than any of the street drugs. They truly destroy people, just as the illegal ones do.

I really try to never take them.

HoosierDirtFan
06-23-2018, 09:08 AM
I'm not defending the guy I just don't trust WRG <> the head honchos of monkey business in dirt racing.
No one driver / team on the Lucas series had been cought by their officials.
If they have I've missed it.
Thing about it.
I don't like nor do I dislike him.
I think in many ways he for the sport as he brings a lot of eyes to it.
The one thing I've noticed is when something surrounding him comes out the haters come out in full force.
The one thing for sure is this issue is going to be talked about for a long time.
He definitely messed up here.
Should have just takin the test and got it over with.
The one drivers I've always rooted for is Dennis Erb Jr.

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 09:18 AM
Quote not working Chupp fan
( You are absolutely correct. I’d love to see unbiased studies that say Oxy and other painkillers are any better than any of the street drugs. They truly destroy people, just as the illegal ones do.

I really try to never take them. )
They are worst then most street drugs and kill more the most of them.

turnleftandgasit
06-23-2018, 09:27 AM
The biggest problem with painkillers is the belief that they are harmless because a doctor prescribed them. Street drugs biggest issues is you don't know what you are getting. When you snort, shoot or smoke an oxy, you know exactly what to expect.

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 09:30 AM
Edit and Quote not working
Mary jane is the drug to use it kills the pain. and is not one that makes you want it all the time. My Doc has me on it and i love it only use it when i hurt real bad. dont need it when i dont hurt bad.

turnleftandgasit
06-23-2018, 09:31 AM
preaching to the choir.

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 09:33 AM
preaching to the choir.

and 1/2 them are on it LOL

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 09:38 AM
Painkillers can be as bad they hurt just as meany people as they help. They need to be outlawed. or controlled better.

The responsibility lies with the user!

I used them for about 30 days, due to a back injury, and realized I was getting addicted. I immediately stopped cold turkey.

True, there are some doctors who over prescribe but its your life not theirs!

joshroth14
06-23-2018, 09:40 AM
Im guessing no one seen him spin in the heat race and realize he couldn't control the car anymore until he had surgery? Now all of a sudden he's on drugs, life is spiraling out of control, he's checking into rehab, he's done, LOL. You guys are awesome on here.

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 09:43 AM
Im guessing no one seen him spin in the heat race and realize he couldn't control the car anymore until he had surgery? Now all of a sudden he's on drugs, life is spiraling out of control, he's checking into rehab, he's done, LOL. You guys are awesome on here.

Yep.....just let me know when his sponsors start leaving, then Ill believe it!

No_Weak_Links
06-23-2018, 09:55 AM
I can't wrap my head around this....Scott is the best in our sport. Look at everything he's accomplished and built. Look at his personal wealth, accolades, one of top chassis builders, etc...you don't accumulate all this by being stupid. But most of you without any facts, believe he was dumb enough to leave Tennessee and travel to Pennsylvania to enter a race he was told he would be drug tested at, knowing full well he would fail the test...perhaps this is the case but I have a hard time believing he is this dumb....and finally, all you people that personally hate him so much are pathetic. When the best in the sport is not at the track to cheer for or root against the whole sport suffers.

Josh Bayko
06-23-2018, 09:55 AM
Im guessing no one seen him spin in the heat race and realize he couldn't control the car anymore until he had surgery? Now all of a sudden he's on drugs, life is spiraling out of control, he's checking into rehab, he's done, LOL. You guys are awesome on here.

I saw him spin. He was out of sorts all night. He does not like them hammerdown tracks at all.

zyoung25
06-23-2018, 10:07 AM
Im guessing no one seen him spin in the heat race and realize he couldn't control the car anymore until he had surgery? Now all of a sudden he's on drugs, life is spiraling out of control, he's checking into rehab, he's done, LOL. You guys are awesome on here.

Why is it professional dirt bikers can racers ride with torn ACL's and broken bones, in the blistering heat and not look like a mess? I'm sorry but we've seen guys win races (including Bloomquist) with a cast on one arm. He's never been on that type of surface.

Cardirt0
06-23-2018, 10:11 AM
I can't wrap my head around this....Scott is the best in our sport. Look at everything he's accomplished and built. Look at his personal wealth, accolades, one of top chassis builders, etc...you don't accumulate all this by being stupid. But most of you without any facts, believe he was dumb enough to leave Tennessee and travel to Pennsylvania to enter a race he was told he would be drug tested at, knowing full well he would fail the test...perhaps this is the case but I have a hard time believing he is this dumb....and finally, all you people that personally hate him so much are pathetic. When the best in the sport is not at the track to cheer for or root against the whole sport suffers.

Dont love or hate him. But if he has a Pro. with pain killers he needs to get help. if not then he needs to test and prove it. My friend i keep asking him you Ok and then he was dead. If his anc is i can handle it then he needs help.

joshroth14
06-23-2018, 10:33 AM
Why is it professional dirt bikers can racers ride with torn ACL's and broken bones, in the blistering heat and not look like a mess? I'm sorry but we've seen guys win races (including Bloomquist) with a cast on one arm. He's never been on that type of surface.

There's 50 year old guys with two bad shoulders winning dirt bike races? Thats (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) impressive man. I didnt realize that. You're right Bloomquist has never won on a hammer down surface. Never won at Cedar Lake on that type of surface.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 10:38 AM
Why is it professional dirt bikers can racers ride with torn ACL's and broken bones, in the blistering heat and not look like a mess? I'm sorry but we've seen guys win races (including Bloomquist) with a cast on one arm. He's never been on that type of surface.54 years old with two bad shoulders, on a bad fast Lernerville, I don’t think anyone would fare well, including a 54 year old Ricky Carmichael.

zyoung25
06-23-2018, 10:40 AM
There's 50 year old guys with two bad shoulders winning dirt bike races? Thats (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) impressive man. I didnt realize that. You're right Bloomquist has never won on a hammer down surface. Never won at Cedar Lake on that type of surface.

There are plenty of 50 year olds out there winning dirt bike races, look up Loretta Lynn's to see for yourself, if you don't believe me. And I'm sure there are some out there with junk backs and shoulders, considering most of them are retired racers.. Most 20 year olds couldn't hang with these guys. But.....what do I know?

How many cars finished that night again? Refresh my memory.

Mindwalker
06-23-2018, 10:54 AM
The night Bloomer won at Cedar there were maybe 7 cars left. Billy Moyer and Erb to name a few. Babb flipped it towards the end.

TMaCiLLiNi39
06-23-2018, 10:57 AM
The night Bloomer won at Cedar there were maybe 7 cars left. Billy Moyer and Erb to name a few. Babb flipped it towards the end.

There were 4 cars running at the end... Bloomer, Moyer, Erb and Davenport... JD had a broken shock, 3 laps down... finished 4th lol

joshroth14
06-23-2018, 11:00 AM
There are plenty of 50 year olds out there winning dirt bike races, look up Loretta Lynn's to see for yourself, if you don't believe me. And I'm sure there are some out there with junk backs and shoulders, considering most of them are retired racers.. Most 20 year olds couldn't hang with these guys. But.....what do I know?

How many cars finished that night again? Refresh my memory.

He's won several times there on a hammer down track. I'm sure theres no difference controlling a dirt bike and a late model. I would love to see proof of a 50 year old racer whose won a dirt bike race with two torn muscles in their shoulders. If so thats impressive.

joshroth14
06-23-2018, 11:06 AM
There were 4 cars running at the end... Bloomer, Moyer, Erb and Davenport... JD had a broken shock, 3 laps down... finished 4th lol

You're still around?

jog49
06-23-2018, 11:09 AM
Bloomer did not participate in a required urinalysis by an independent agency at the track. There were rules in place for such situations. End of story.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 11:23 AM
Bloomer did not participate in a required urinalysis by an independent agency at the track. There were rules in place for such situations. End of story.Lol. Ty for your valuable insight Captain Obvious.

Pennsboro23
06-23-2018, 11:23 AM
He's won several times there on a hammer down track. I'm sure theres no difference controlling a dirt bike and a late model. I would love to see proof of a 50 year old racer whose won a dirt bike race with two torn muscles in their shoulders. If so thats impressive.

I would love to talk to the doctor he’s actually seeing. No way he has two torn muscles. You don’t raise your arms in a shoulder press motion if you have torn muscles in your shoulders like he did after the Dream win. I’m not saying he’s not hurt, but torn muscles seem a little far fetched.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 11:24 AM
There are plenty of 50 year olds out there winning dirt bike races, look up Loretta Lynn's to see for yourself, if you don't believe me. And I'm sure there are some out there with junk backs and shoulders, considering most of them are retired racers.. Most 20 year olds couldn't hang with these guys. But.....what do I know?

How many cars finished that night again? Refresh my memory.I still wouldn’t compare late models and dirt bikes, just saying. Entirely different, using different muscles.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 11:26 AM
If Bloomer said torn muscles, then he did. Way I understood it, he has rotator cuff issues, shoulder issues, don’t remember muscle issues. Because, yes, I agree, you got two torn muscles, you’d be done I’d think.

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 11:30 AM
QUOTE:I would love to talk to the doctor he’s actually seeing. No way he has two torn muscles. You don’t raise your arms in a shoulder press motion if you have torn muscles in your shoulders like he did after the Dream win. I’m not saying he’s not hurt, but torn muscles seem a little far fetched.

Take 2 10/650 hydrocodones.....you could hit your finger with a 10lb sledgehammer and you wouldn't feel it!

joshroth14
06-23-2018, 11:31 AM
One torn muscle and a torn rotator cuff I think is what he said. I'm sure if you guys called his doctor he would release Scott's entire file for the 4m members who are concerned with his injuries. LOL.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 11:32 AM
One torn muscle and a torn rotator cuff I think is what he said. I'm sure if you guys called his doctor he would release Scott's entire file for the 4m members who are concerned with his injuries. LOL.I’m sure they would, do them we could get him the proper 4m specialists. There are some special ones on here.

chupp n bloomer fan
06-23-2018, 11:32 AM
So then.......

Pennsboro23
06-23-2018, 11:33 AM
A25rjr, care to demonstrate then upload it to 4m?

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 11:34 AM
So then.......

Bloomer was just "testing"! :)

Illtsate32
06-23-2018, 11:52 AM
Lol you feel that but I agree with ur sentiment you take some 10mg hydrocodone you can def do some stuff you couldnt think of doing without them...most people who arent chronic users of pain killers 10mg of hydrocodone would prob make them sick first time using...

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 11:56 AM
A25rjr, care to demonstrate then upload it to 4m?

LOL.....Thank the good Lord, I haven't needed pain killers in a long time. But, if I did........! :)

Barbecueboy
06-23-2018, 02:08 PM
Bloomer did not participate in a required urinalysis by an independent agency at the track. There were rules in place for such situations. End of story.

Independent agency???

How independent can you be when you are getting paid by the series to come and be there.

Follow the money trail, report back.

nuff said
06-23-2018, 02:50 PM
He had the same injury last week and seemed to control the car okay. Unless he fell again,that could be it. He is clearly the best this sport has ever seen and his accomplishment will never be duplicated. But he skipped a required drug test 2 weeks in a row. C'mon man

Mindwalker
06-23-2018, 03:20 PM
Bloomer was just "testing"! :)

So, all those times he was doing crappy at the track and everyone said he was testing.... He actually fell down and went to the er instead of pissing in a cup? It all makes sense now! One thing tho, who was driving?

a25rjr
06-23-2018, 03:24 PM
So, all those times he was doing crappy at the track and everyone said he was testing.... He actually fell down and went to the er instead of pissing in a cup? It all makes sense now! One thing tho, who was driving?

SS....of course!

CageFaraday
06-23-2018, 03:33 PM
He had the same injury last week and seemed to control the car okay. Unless he fell again,that could be it. He is clearly the best this sport has ever seen and his accomplishment will never be duplicated. But he skipped a required drug test 2 weeks in a row. C'mon man

@, Nuff Why show up knowing they're gonna test you? Makes no sense if you know you have junk in your system... In regard to last week, I'm sure the ER gave him injections that made it possible for him to run the way he did.

@ ???, A paid drug testing company isn't exactly impartial.

@ the dude who believes a 50+ year old can win a Supercross event with 2 F'ed up shoulders needs to be drug tested themselves. It doesn't happen. Don't compare backwoods Moto-X to running Lucas/WoO, not even close to the same stage or level of competition. Flipping a 230# Motocross bike around isn't the same as muscling a 2300# DLM.

I admit there are a lot of odd factors and history to be considered in this situation, but none of it is yet conclusive. Might be as simple as he assumed he'd be up to racing after winning the Dream, but injured himself further in the spin at Lernerville and knew right away surgery was a must, skipped test because it was no longer an issue. He doesn't run WoO full time and so even being suspended isn't a big deal if he knew he was gonna be out the rest of the season anyway with surgery and shoulder rehab. None of us know, its all conjecture and frankly not our business.

Clayton_Wetter
06-23-2018, 03:55 PM
Good for you you knew first lol what you givin me flack for lol woo penalty report stated very clearly what happened doesnt sound at all like ur saying...

One of them biased opinions.

Mindwalker
06-23-2018, 04:02 PM
SS....of course!

I knew it! I thought he looked a lot like Bloomer... Hair, belly, huverround at the show.... It all makes sense! Acting like a jd nut smoocher.... Lol, its all be a cover up!

Clayton_Wetter
06-23-2018, 04:39 PM
You have to be the most naive person on the entire planet.

Hang em first and ask questions later. Hope you don't ever get on a jury.

Barbecueboy
06-23-2018, 08:36 PM
@, Nuff Why show up knowing they're gonna test you? Makes no sense if you know you have junk in your system... In regard to last week, I'm sure the ER gave him injections that made it possible for him to run the way he did.

@ ???, A paid drug testing company isn't exactly impartial.

@ the dude who believes a 50+ year old can win a Supercross event with 2 F'ed up shoulders needs to be drug tested themselves. It doesn't happen. Don't compare backwoods Moto-X to running Lucas/WoO, not even close to the same stage or level of competition. Flipping a 230# Motocross bike around isn't the same as muscling a 2300# DLM.

I admit there are a lot of odd factors and history to be considered in this situation, but none of it is yet conclusive. Might be as simple as he assumed he'd be up to racing after winning the Dream, but injured himself further in the spin at Lernerville and knew right away surgery was a must, skipped test because it was no longer an issue. He doesn't run WoO full time and so even being suspended isn't a big deal if he knew he was gonna be out the rest of the season anyway with surgery and shoulder rehab. None of us know, its all conjecture and frankly not our business.

Think you're a little off on your take on the motocross guys......they just make it look easy.

It ain't.