Dirt Million News Flash

[ptown]

It does not pay 1 million dollars to win, the only promoter that has done that was Earl Baltes, he took the money out of his own bank account and paid ONE MILLION DOLLARS to win, he didn't try to get fans to pay through some pyramid or ponzi scheme.

[Mams]

Thanks for the news flash. There are probably 2-3 people on here that didn’t know that.

[RCMC]

Here's the definition of a ponzi scheme so you can stop using that term incorrectly.

Ponzi scheme

noun
a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.

Would you also like to break the news that Earl Baltes' Mopar Million didn't pay $1,000,000 to win either?

[dirt crow]

They announced last night it was up to 3300 to start with a little over a month to go. That is still short of what the Gibsons use to pay to start the show me in the 90’s. Maybe some big donations will happen. But after last night I doubt it.

[willardboy]

I really dont know that the free DoD coverage helped Mansfield Speedway much. I understand from the promotional aspect of things what they were trying to do but the track sure was in terrible shape. I was expecting to see a lot better racing surface than what i saw. With the comments from others i hope they get things lined out for the Dirt Million !

[ptown]

I really dont know that the free DoD coverage helped Mansfield Speedway much. I understand from the promotional aspect of things what they were trying to do but the track sure was in terrible shape. I was expecting to see a lot better racing surface than what i saw. With the comments from others i hope they get things lined out for the Dirt Million !

It was an infomercial, my problem with this deal is naming it the million which is a complete misrepresentation.

[willardboy]

I agree. I wonder what it "realistically" will get to ?

[dch191]

I agree. I wonder what it "realistically" will get to ?

I think it’ll only gain another $5-10k to the total purse plus whatever they get from the DoD buys.

I’m curious to see how much the PPV sales add to the purse personally. I’m not sure what the price point will be or how many buys they generally get but you’d have to think it could boost the purse quite a bit

[TackyTracker]

600k total purse is my guess

[Mindwalker]

When Bloomer wins it he will sue for false advertisement and get it!

[MI Dirt Fan]

When Bloomer wins it he will sue for false advertisement and get it!

He did say he was there to learn a few things....

[Centeroff]

I’m afraid we’re going to need Jameson to start up front, a man made cushion for JD and Bobby, 100 laps green, no tire rule and a blessing from god to make this one exciting!

[MRM]

I thought just about all race purses are paid for by the fans minus pit passes teams have to pay.

The Dirt Million name was a little misleading, at first, until the details were announced. The goal was to get the total purse to one million dollars, not the pay to win. I don't think they'll get close to that. But a $200k to win and $3,500 to start purse isn't anything to sneeze at.

[dirt crow]

I’m curious if anybody on here donated?

[MI Dirt Fan]

Negative....

[GEAR_HEAD]

Everybody who bought tickets technically donated and contributed to the purse.

[highgroove]

I looked up p-town in dictionary..it said arrogant a-hole for the definition .

[dirt crow]

Everybody who bought tickets technically donated and contributed to the purse.

Well that’s true. Guess I meant anyone go that extra mile.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Everybody who bought tickets technically donated and contributed to the purse.

Doesn't that normally happen anyway at most events?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Doesn't that normally happen anyway at most events?

Normally, the purse is known and sunk up front. The public determines if the promoter makes money and how much. There lies the risk.

[b1eagle]

JW Hunt put that money up before he passed away for Eldora.

[flagone]

So you think that the promoter isn't at least putting in at least a base purse?

I cannot believe this kind of stuff. It is absolute proof that people want to be hanged with a new rope.

No matter what this will be the 2nd highest paying race EVER run for Dirt Late Models. Why is that a negative? Why are we trying to turn it into a negative.

This is no different to me than the Fans Fund program at Cedar Lake which is awesome for racers.

Are we so miserable in life that we should only seek out the negative in things? Agreed it hasn't reached the start pay that The Show Me had under the Gibsons. But here is a newsflash for you guys $3300 to start is fantastic and if you ask a driver I am sure they will agree.

There is enough negativity in the sport that we don't need to manufacture any additional.

[TS FAN]

JW Hunt put that money up before he passed away for Eldora.

Your are absolutely correct. I was going to post that. The Strawberry King

[Centeroff]

What they are saying is the promotion team has nothing to lose by doing it this way. Just smart business and I’m sure nobody here can blame them. They will put close to 100 cars at the same place, same time and that is a rare feat. I like everything about the race except the location. They should minimum go a no tire rule. Last night was the first race I have seen there and I wasn’t impressed. Maybe the hot sun had something to do with it.

[flagone]

Again they have a part factored into that purse. It is not 100% funded by the DM program. Part of the purse is a base that they have to cover. And people could not have bought a single thing and they would still be paying the base purse. So they absolutely have something to lose either way.

[Burke1118]

So you think that the promoter isn't at least putting in at least a base purse?I cannot believe this kind of stuff. It is absolute proof that people want to be hanged with a new rope.No matter what this will be the 2nd highest paying race EVER run for Dirt Late Models. Why is that a negative? Why are we trying to turn it into a negative.This is no different to me than the Fans Fund program at Cedar Lake which is awesome for racers. Are we so miserable in life that we should only seek out the negative in things? Agreed it hasn't reached the start pay that The Show Me had under the Gibsons. But here is a newsflash for you guys $3300 to start is fantastic and if you ask a driver I am sure they will agree.There is enough negativity in the sport that we don't need to manufacture any additional.Preach!! The world 100 could have 300 cars show up, Earl could rise from the dead to wave the green flag, and it could be a 4 wide photo finish and the overall 4m vibe of the race would be negative.

[dirt crow]

So you think that the promoter isn't at least putting in at least a base purse?

I cannot believe this kind of stuff. It is absolute proof that people want to be hanged with a new rope.

No matter what this will be the 2nd highest paying race EVER run for Dirt Late Models. Why is that a negative? Why are we trying to turn it into a negative.

This is no different to me than the Fans Fund program at Cedar Lake which is awesome for racers.

Are we so miserable in life that we should only seek out the negative in things? Agreed it hasn't reached the start pay that The Show Me had under the Gibsons. But here is a newsflash for you guys $3300 to start is fantastic and if you ask a driver I am sure they will agree.

There is enough negativity in the sport that we don't need to manufacture any additional.

I brought up the Gibsons, yes. But didn’t mean 3.3k is bad. Just short of what they’d hoped. And I’m going to support the event. Done stated that. .......seems like the last 2 weeks I’m stepping in it every way possible. Lol

[WildBill32]

I like the idea of what Cody is trying to do. Its differnt and thinking outside the norm. Just like what he did at the Dome. I think, what hes trying to do is good for the sport. I hope it works out for everybody.

[GregA12]

Love the way the Gibson’s did it and wish more would/could.. Now it’s all focused on the top end which is harmful to the overall health of whatever class IMO. I get why it’s done because races like one I attend (Cedar Lake USA Nationals) have exploded in recent years in terms of the money they’re bringing in. They cut cutting down more woods to make room for more campers.

[Snake X3]

I just hope the racing/track is better than Sunday. It looked like a NASCAR race. And all you Positive Paulies shouldn't get upset by people giving their opinion. Posting opinion as fact is entirely different. And the fact is that this race is going to be good for the sport simply for the hype built around it just like that Dome deal.

The thing I'm really happy about is that starting pay. Hopefully there are a bunch of local regional guys that get in the field for that payday...just hope there aren't a lot of guys quitting early when they think they can't win.

And keep fightin' the fight, Kelly. You da man!

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Nothing but props for Cody and the gang. At least he’s trying some fresh ideas. But then some are only negative, or only obsessed with a certain 32 car.

[golddirt]

What, bloomer changed his number again?!

[Highside Hustler25]

Last I looked, their were more than a half doz. Bloomer threads on the first page. They're not all obsessed with the 32.

[juneclb2]

I understand from the promotional aspect of things what they were trying to do but the track sure was in terrible shape.

[Krooser]

Here's the definition of a ponzi scheme so you can stop using that term incorrectly.

Ponzi scheme

noun
a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.

Would you also like to break the news that Earl Baltes' Mopar Million didn't pay $1,000,000 to win either?

Kinda like Medicare...

[Mindwalker]

Last I looked, their were more than a half doz. Bloomer threads on the first page. They're not all obsessed with the 32.

Ah, ok, Mr Butt Hurt. Lol and something or other. 😀

[ALLDIRT]

It was an infomercial, my problem with this deal is naming it the million which is a complete misrepresentation.

Fake news .

[Clayton_Wetter]

I really can't understand all of this talk about Earl needing purse paid for him to be able to have the MILLION race. And yes JW Hunt and others did pay into the purse.

But the facts are that he charges $87 a head for reserved and $85 for general admission. With that being true then if only 15 thousand fans were there for this sellout, that would come to 1.3 million dollars there alone plus a few hundred thousand more from pits, vending space rentals, concessions, and all the rest of the incomes.

[RRRKKK]

I think when Moran won it taxes were almost 50%

[PRCKartRacer9]

^^^^^^37.1%^^^^^

[kidrock]

I thought just about all race purses are paid for by the fans minus pit passes teams have to pay.

The Dirt Million name was a little misleading, at first, until the details were announced. The goal was to get the total purse to one million dollars, not the pay to win. I don't think they'll get close to that. But a $200k to win and $3,500 to start purse isn't anything to sneeze at.

Some come on here and cry about promoters not promoting and this guy is doing just that promoting this event. I don't think he has ever said the race paid 1 million to win and your right that is nothing to sneeze at.

[golddirt]

I believe Donny check was around 756000

[Mindwalker]

some come on here and cry about promoters not promoting and this guy is doing just that promoting this event. I don't think he has ever said the race paid 1 million to win and your right that is nothing to sneeze at.

aaaaaaaah shoooooooo.....😉

[chupp n bloomer fan]

What, bloomer changed his number again?!


Last I looked, their were more than a half doz. Bloomer threads on the first page. They're not all obsessed with the 32.You two idiots don’t realize I’m talking about ptown? Jesus, who needs drug tested now? If it ain’t negative or complaining about Bobby, he don’t post. But I guess y’all got the Voodoo Child on your brain.#sad

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I think when Moran won it taxes were almost 50%$610,000 is what he cleared.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Some come on here and cry about promoters not promoting and this guy is doing just that promoting this event. I don't think he has ever said the race paid 1 million to win and your right that is nothing to sneeze at.


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[kidrock]

aaaaaaaah shoooooooo.....



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Well I guess I got it wrong lol

[spiderma4]

$610,000 is what he cleared.

why would they take tax out at the pay window? I have never had taxes taken out of any winnings at a track.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

why would they take tax out at the pay window? I have never had taxes taken out of any winnings at a track.In an interview he did, after he paid taxes, he was left with $610,000. I’m sure this wasn’t done at Eldora, but with an accountant, CPA.

[MI Dirt Fan]

I've had them take taxes out at a casino on a winning