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MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 02:21 PM
That first Bmain has some heavy hitters in it.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 07:12 PM
It shows on the schedule they are running a bunch of races like mods, another LM class I believe and a couple non qualifier races then the last race is the 80 lapper. What kind of shape will the track be in by then? Thanks.

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 07:19 PM
I heard the 39 car already loosened wheels for the cautions. Zero gonna lap the field if it stays green! Just my loyal prediction or do I mean royal prediction lol

smoothoperator32
07-21-2018, 07:20 PM
#LucasDirt #SilverDollarNats @PenskeShocks B-Main 1 Line Up:
Babb-Bruening
Lanigan-Richards
Zeitner26-Berck
Buller-Pospisil
Zeitner1GRT-Coover
Humphrey-Hopp
Andersen-Millander

#LucasDirt #SilverDollarNats @FastShafts B-Main 2 Line Up:
Obrien-McCreadie
Ward-Wyman
Phillips-Eckrich
Anderson-Pierce
Simpson32-Spieker
Neal-Duty

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 07:23 PM
Like I said that first Bmain ain't no joke

chopter
07-21-2018, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the updates. I really appreciate everyone that does it

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 07:34 PM
Ya idk how the draw for races but I see quite a bit where one race wiil be stacked but another there is nothing but dead meat in it...

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 07:35 PM
Safe to say the Lucas regulars will get provisionals regardless?

i-pod
07-21-2018, 07:43 PM
Richards and Bruening wreck hard.

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 07:44 PM
According to Dod Pierce was scheduled to be in the first b..

MasterSbilt_Racer
07-21-2018, 07:44 PM
Richards don't like passing points.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 07:51 PM
Richards and Bruening were running first and third and got caught up with a lap car. Been a tough weekend for Josh and BPM.

https://mobile.twitter.com/lucasdirt/status/1020832846347456519/photo/1

https://mobile.twitter.com/lucasdirt/status/1020832846347456519/photo/2

smoothoperator32
07-21-2018, 07:54 PM
#LucasDirt #SilverDollarNats @PenskeShocks B-Main 1 Finish:
Babb
Lanigan
Berck
Buller
Zeitner1GRT
Zeitner26JR
Pospisil
Humphrey
Coover
Hopp
Bruening
Richards
Millander
Andersen

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 08:02 PM
Bmain 2

OBrien
Ward
Wyman
Simpson32
McCreadie
Eckrich
Duty
Neal
Phillips
Pierce
Anderson
Spieker

TUTY
07-21-2018, 08:05 PM
Great for Scott Ward !!

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 08:09 PM
It says row 14 is the 2 Lucas provisionals. Row 15 is I-80 provisionals. Row 15 is 1st NQ and 2nd NQ and row 15 is 3rd NQ

smoothoperator32
07-21-2018, 08:20 PM
#LucasDirt #SilverDollarNats Belt Bash Non-Qualifiers’ Race Line Up:
Zeitner1GRT-McCreadie
Eckrich-Duty
Humphrey-Neal
Coover-Phillips
Hopp-Bruening
Anderson-Spieker
Millander-Andersen

BerckFan
07-21-2018, 08:37 PM
Ya idk how the draw for races but I see quite a bit where one race wiil be stacked but another there is nothing but dead meat in it...

Dead meat? Kinda harsh...i think 39 & 32 would disagree. Not arguing that one consi is better than other either... just sayin...not sure your boy would have made it outta the second one anyway.

smoothoperator32
07-21-2018, 08:47 PM
#LucasDirt #SilverDollarNats Belt Bash Non-Qualifiers’ Race Finish:
McCreadie
Zeitner1GRT
Eckrich
Duty
Spieker
Anderson
Humphrey
Coover
Andersen
Millander

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 08:50 PM
Dead meat? Kinda harsh...i think 39 & 32 would disagree. Not arguing that one consi is better than other either... just sayin...not sure your boy would have made it outta the second one anyway.
He didn't. He finished 10th

Cardirt0
07-21-2018, 08:57 PM
Bobby not having a good weekend.

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 09:01 PM
Dead meat? Kinda harsh...i think 39 & 32 would disagree. Not arguing that one consi is better than other either... just sayin...not sure your boy would have made it outta the second one anyway.

I was speaking generally, dont quote me you are not even on a level to attempt to talk trash, yes Berck is def dead meat...

WildBill32
07-21-2018, 09:02 PM
Bobbys backup car does not want to turn in the corners. Hes not looking very good at all...

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 09:04 PM
And no forward drive off, same prob they been having all year...with that said with blowing motors and rearends every other night how hes still 5th in points is beyond me...

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 09:05 PM
Somebody get that young man a cushion! Get the grader out

Cardirt0
07-21-2018, 09:26 PM
Somebody get that young man a cushion! Get the grader out

I dont know the car just will not turn . Dont think its him. may be time to try a make of car that ant a Rocket. The on he has is a moped.

smoothoperator32
07-21-2018, 09:49 PM
#LucasDirt #SilverDollarNats LineUp:
BloomquistZeigler
HONealDONeal
WeissPearson
JunghansRobinson
SatterleeErb
Simpson25Davenport
SheppardClanton
LandersMoyer
OwensBronson
BabbOBrien
LaniganWard
BerckWyman
BullerSimpson32
RichardsPierce
CZeitnerPospisil
McCreadieJZeitner
Eckrich

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 09:49 PM
The top 3 in the NQ opted tonl run the feature. I wonder how much more is it worth it.

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
07-21-2018, 09:52 PM
The top 3 in the NQ opted tonl run the feature. I wonder how much more is it worth it.

For T-mac a bunch.

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 09:52 PM
I’d say it’s worth a minimum 2 maybe 3 much needed cautions

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 09:53 PM
SS, I like you. When you bail on a driver you sell out quicker than a Macredie on a Thursday in Nebraska!

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 09:58 PM
When Tmac causes a caution it's not needed.


Payout wise. Anyone know?

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 09:59 PM
Scott already paid for a boat. It was 53k$$$$$

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:06 PM
Feature should be coming up soon.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:12 PM
Cars are lining up. 80 laps.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:17 PM
NQ paid

1st. $3k
2nd $2500
3rd $2200

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:23 PM
Green flag .......

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 10:23 PM
33 started. Wow!

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:24 PM
Caution for Ekrich slowing on lap 3. Babb and Richards pit.

Zonks32x
07-21-2018, 10:24 PM
Remember a few people bashing other crown jewel tracks for not moving the show along, track prep, too many classes, etc.

One in particular, puffing his chest out about his home joint...

And there everybody sits 4 hours later, still waiting for the A-main to start.

Anyone have a number for a window man, that can fix all the broken panes in that glass house?

That said, hope it's an exciting 80 laps and everybody goes home happy.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:25 PM
Back green......

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:27 PM
Bloomquist
Zeigler
Hudson O'Neal

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:29 PM
Caution for Erb and Bshepp they spin. 8 laps in.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:30 PM
Erb pits with a flat RF and Bshepp is pushed to the infield

Hard rock candy
07-21-2018, 10:31 PM
Did Babb come back out?

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:32 PM
Back green. Erb might have a engine issue now.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:34 PM
Caution for Zeigler. Smoke coming out of the back of the car. He gets towed off.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:36 PM
Bloomquist
Davenport
Hudson O'Neal
Ricky Weiss
Don O'Neal

12 down

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:38 PM
Ricky Weiss shoots to second on the restart

EDERDS
07-21-2018, 10:38 PM
Track must have a good cushion, JD coming on fast

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:38 PM
Ricky Weiss now to the lead around Bloomquist

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:39 PM
Davenport in third and slipping back. Chad Simpson starting to come up now.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:41 PM
Bloomquist back to the lead. Scott ward pulls off and Clanton pulls off. 22 down.

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 10:42 PM
Looks like somebody cut loose of that anchor...

dirtluver
07-21-2018, 10:42 PM
Bobby to 3rd..

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:42 PM
Pierce up to 4th.

klemmabyna
07-21-2018, 10:43 PM
MI Dirt Fan: appreciate the updates

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:43 PM
2 more pull off. Krob and Zeitner.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:44 PM
MI Dirt Fan: appreciate the updates

Your welcome. Glad it slowed down here at work to keep up on them.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:44 PM
3 more have pulled off. Eckrich, Pospisil and Wyman
Pierce up to second.

MUD MAESTRO
07-21-2018, 10:45 PM
How about that Kid Bobby?

Swampy121
07-21-2018, 10:45 PM
Looks like somebody cut loose of that anchor...

Looks like Pierce passed that anchor to JD.

Millie23
07-21-2018, 10:46 PM
Peirce to first!

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:47 PM
40 down

Bloomquist
Pierce
Weiss
Davenport
Don O'Neal
Hudson O'Neal
Pearson
Owens
Satterlee
Simpson 25.

Swampy121
07-21-2018, 10:47 PM
Peirce to first!

For about 2 seconds...

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:48 PM
Bloomquist takes the lead back on lap 44.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:49 PM
Pierce back to the lead on lap 50

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:52 PM
Pierce has lapped up to 10th. 20 to go

dirtluver
07-21-2018, 10:52 PM
Pierce got 6 sec lead..

MUD MAESTRO
07-21-2018, 10:52 PM
Bobby going all in streches lead

Swampy121
07-21-2018, 10:54 PM
Bobby going all in streches lead

And there went the lead.. Caution

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 10:54 PM
That little mfer can wheel one boys!

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:55 PM
Caution lap 67. Pierce had a 10 second lead.

EDERDS
07-21-2018, 10:55 PM
Wondering if Bloomers tires are about gone

Swampy121
07-21-2018, 10:55 PM
Richards back in 17th. I bet he feels left out... 😂

MUD MAESTRO
07-21-2018, 10:56 PM
Who's has the tires for the end

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 10:57 PM
I didnt want to see that im sure he didnt either, less than stellar on restarts, Owens coming on too...

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:57 PM
I'm wondering if Bloomquist was saving his tires. He is the best when I comes to 100 lappers and this is 80.

intel8
07-21-2018, 10:58 PM
Wow, what a race!

MUD MAESTRO
07-21-2018, 10:58 PM
Who's has the tires for the end

Dont bet against Zero

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:58 PM
Caution was for Bronson getting into the wall.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 10:59 PM
Weiss to second on the restart

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:00 PM
Davenport and Bloomquist side by side for third. 10 to go

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:00 PM
Here comes JD challenging Weiss for second.

Millie23
07-21-2018, 11:01 PM
Good restart! Got a good lead!

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:01 PM
5 to go

Pierce
Davenport
Weiss
Bloomquist
Pearson

GrocMax
07-21-2018, 11:02 PM
Used it up

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:02 PM
Davenport to the lead. 2 to go

intel8
07-21-2018, 11:02 PM
Pierce up in smoke.

intel8
07-21-2018, 11:03 PM
Bloomer to pit! Crowd roars! Lol...

EDERDS
07-21-2018, 11:03 PM
Track must have a cushion and a half.

Swampy121
07-21-2018, 11:04 PM
Pierce up in smoke.

The bad luck continues

AllenK
07-21-2018, 11:04 PM
Crap......

Aysm??

intel8
07-21-2018, 11:04 PM
Flat LR Bloomer.

ptown
07-21-2018, 11:05 PM
Pierce up in smoke.

That’s too bad

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 11:05 PM
Your kidding me??? Thats prob why he slowed not tires...SOAB..man

MUD MAESTRO
07-21-2018, 11:05 PM
Old racer said they run the best before they blow

GregA12
07-21-2018, 11:05 PM
Dont bet against Zero


Wow. What a shame. Pierce was the show. Fitting he broke down the way that team breaks so much.

i-pod
07-21-2018, 11:05 PM
Does Owens have any thing left for Superman?

smooth32
07-21-2018, 11:05 PM
Could have been a big point night for Pierce. Sure has had a lot of motor issues

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:05 PM
Says Bloomquist had a flat RR.

jlacey
07-21-2018, 11:06 PM
Wow that sucks for Pierce, Bloomer too but was pulling for Bobby with all the bad luck that team has had lately.

Bradley
07-21-2018, 11:06 PM
Yellow flags seem to be Davenport's best friend lately

Millie23
07-21-2018, 11:06 PM
Unbelievable! Bobby’s got some bad luck! What’s going on!

intel8
07-21-2018, 11:07 PM
JD WINS. Heck of a race.

Swampy121
07-21-2018, 11:07 PM
Bloomer to pit! Crowd roars! Lol...

Looks like he kept his spot. Ended up in 6th according to RM

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:07 PM
I think Thursday night they broke a valve. Seems like a reacuring problem "up in smoke". Are they still using Pro Power?

jlacey
07-21-2018, 11:07 PM
Im not watching (just going off updates here) but didnt he have the lead with 2 to go before the yellow?

AllenK
07-21-2018, 11:07 PM
Didn't realize JD had gone to lead and Bloomquist to pits.

Awesome!

AllenK
07-21-2018, 11:08 PM
Congrats to JD!!!

Swampy121
07-21-2018, 11:08 PM
Ricky Weiss had a great run!

gorj
07-21-2018, 11:09 PM
Sounded like a great race

Bradley
07-21-2018, 11:09 PM
I guess it is better to be lucky then good ! Bobby has got to be P*ssed that his cars can't finish a race

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 11:09 PM
Still, can somebody explain how he went from complete garbage all weekend to 28th to a 6 second lead...

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 11:09 PM
Tire rules are terrible

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:10 PM
I think the caution with two to go was for Pierce. Bloomquist pulled off then for a new RR. There is no lucky dog when under 10 to go. I'm assuming Bloomquist got 6th from being the last car on the lead lap?

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 11:10 PM
Weiss is a stud...

MUD MAESTRO
07-21-2018, 11:10 PM
Davenport.... wow......saw Canadian Weiss in May.....can run with the best of them.

jlacey
07-21-2018, 11:10 PM
I think Thursday night they broke a valve. Seems like a reacuring problem "up in smoke". Are they still using Pro Power?

Cant remember the exact issue but he went up in smoke when i went to Cherokee. Seems alot of recent DoD recaps have "caution for Pierce going up in smoke" lately. Hope they can find and fix that ongoing issue

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
07-21-2018, 11:11 PM
Congrats to jd & team 49!

Cardirt0
07-21-2018, 11:11 PM
Man thats $ucks Bobby had a run there he passed allmost ever one 2 time

Swampy121
07-21-2018, 11:11 PM
I think the caution with two to go was for Pierce. Bloomquist pulled off then for a new RR. There is no lucky dog when under 10 to go. I'm assuming Bloomquist got 6th from being the last car on the lead lap?

O'Neal was the last on the lead lap.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:11 PM
Ricky Weiss had a great run!

Sure did. He's had some solid top 10's in both Lucas and WoO. And a 12th at the Dream back in June. First time there I think.

jlacey
07-21-2018, 11:12 PM
Congrats to JD and Weiss also! I feel bad for Pierce and DB tho

TerryM
07-21-2018, 11:13 PM
I didn't think anyone could have worse luck in 2018 than Josh Richards, but I think Bobby Pierce has taken over that title.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:14 PM
Davenport
Weiss
Owens
HONeal
Pearson
Bloomquist
DONeal
McCreadie
Satterlee
Simpson32
Simpson25
Babb
Moyer
Landers
Junghans
Lanigan
Pierce
Obrien
Richards
Berck
Bronson
Buller
CZeitner
Eckrich
Pospisil
Wyman
Robinson
JZeitner
Clanton
Ward
Zeigler
Erb
Sheppard

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:14 PM
I didn't think anyone could have worse luck in 2018 than Josh Richards, but I think Bobby Pierce has taken over that title.

I'll agree 100% on that.

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 11:21 PM
2 horse show now now boys. Those Rocket boys will not repeat

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:22 PM
2 horse show now now boys. Those Rocket boys will not repeat

They will on WoO. Most likely not on Lucas though

Planetzer0
07-21-2018, 11:24 PM
More like a 1 horse race. Scott has nothing for the 49. 200 points back and the 49 team has figured it out. Scott is still good for a few late show ups and issues too so no way he's winning this year. Hope tonight is a wake up call to get back to work before the North South and Topless.

Planetzer0
07-21-2018, 11:26 PM
Him and Cody were sitting around on easy street all weekend long and get their a**es handed to them tonight. Piece and Davenport put on a heck of a show.

Millie23
07-21-2018, 11:29 PM
Bobby’s team and motor builder owes him 53,000! Kid keeps wheeling and the car keeps failing! He’s never had this many DNF’s in his whole career! Hope they can get this figure out Because it got to get old for him!

t4g2
07-21-2018, 11:33 PM
Not theirs obviously a reason he's blew 4 motors this year, either lack of preventing maintenance or driver is very hard on equipment.

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:33 PM
Him and Cody were sitting around on easy street all weekend long and get their a**es handed to them tonight. Piece and Davenport put on a heck of a show.

I dunno. Whatsver way you look at it not much you can do when you have a flat.

Mindwalker
07-21-2018, 11:34 PM
Yep, jd running them there funny tars again. Hahahahahaha

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:34 PM
Not theirs obviously a reason he's blew 4 motors this year, either lack of preventing maintenance or driver is very hard on equipment.

Is that counting Arizona? Didn't they break one or two there?

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:34 PM
How about Sheppard though. Ouch.

Illtsate32
07-21-2018, 11:36 PM
T4g2 thats really something if engine builders cant make one durable enough for his driving talent lol

Cleetus Motorsports
07-21-2018, 11:36 PM
Sometimes I wonder if these drivers even pay attention. Everyone knows the 49 likes to ride the rim, yet on the restart before the 32 blew up, 49 was 5th and they left the top wide open. Might as well roll out the red carpet. But i'm sure the 49 knows that was a gift because the 32 was gone.

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
07-21-2018, 11:40 PM
Him and Cody were sitting around on easy street all weekend long and get their a**es handed to them tonight. Piece and Davenport put on a heck of a show.

No no no bloomer never has his azz handed to him.

Centeroff
07-21-2018, 11:40 PM
Cleetus, I wondered the same thing 100 times

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
07-21-2018, 11:48 PM
Sometimes I wonder if these drivers even pay attention. Everyone knows the 49 likes to ride the rim, yet on the restart before the 32 blew up, 49 was 5th and they left the top wide open. Might as well roll out the red carpet. But i'm sure the 49 knows that was a gift because the 32 was gone.


Thats called talent!

TerryM
07-21-2018, 11:49 PM
Sometimes I wonder if these drivers even pay attention. Everyone knows the 49 likes to ride the rim, yet on the restart before the 32 blew up, 49 was 5th and they left the top wide open. Might as well roll out the red carpet. But i'm sure the 49 knows that was a gift because the 32 was gone.
It takes talent to run the top. A lot of guys have the talent, but not many have the nerve and focus it takes to go there and stay there when it's the only option at the time. My favorite drivers are the ones willing to go wherever they need to go to win. Even if it means giving up a top five or even top three night. It's exciting to watch. Much more fun to watch than the Driving Miss Daisy types who never leave the bottom.

t4g2
07-21-2018, 11:50 PM
Yes they switched engine program because that's what bobby wanted. An nobody else is having engine problems just Peirce so that's were I'd start to look at.hmmm an only reason bobby had lead is because we all know it gets faster before the motor blows.

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
07-21-2018, 11:54 PM
Thats what happens to bloomer when u got to buy ur tires at the track and its not going to get any better at the world 100. Theres a new sheriff in town!

Dirt Racing #1
07-21-2018, 11:54 PM
Him and Cody were sitting around on easy street all weekend long and get their a**es handed to them tonight. Piece and Davenport put on a heck of a show.First of all, how the hell do know. Bloomer and Cody did nothing all weekend on the car? Was you track watching or after the race keeping an eye on them? You don’t become one of the all time best. By being lazy. Bloomer I’m sure thought he had the right setup for the race. Bloomer and Cody work ridiculous hours on the cars. You have to. To be as consistent/successful as he has in his career.

Mindwalker
07-21-2018, 11:55 PM
Thats called talent!

Go home. Your drunk! Hahahahahaha

Dirt Racing #1
07-21-2018, 11:56 PM
Thats what happens to bloomer when u got to buy ur tires at the track and its not going to get any better at the world 100. Theres a new sheriff in town!Don’t bet on that. Never count the zero out. He just won the dream this year.

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
07-21-2018, 11:57 PM
Go home. Your drunk! Hahahahahaha

Yea but it feels good!🤪🤪

Dirt Racing #1
07-21-2018, 11:57 PM
Pierce gift wrapped that win for j d. No doubt about it. When his engine blew

MI Dirt Fan
07-21-2018, 11:57 PM
Thats what happens to bloomer when u got to buy ur tires at the track and its not going to get any better at the world 100. Theres a new sheriff in town!

What does the World have to do with anything?

t4g2
07-21-2018, 11:58 PM
Peirce has always had equipment failures an breaks you all just didn't hear about it because he wasn't following a tour an wasn't racing as much as he is now.

Mindwalker
07-21-2018, 11:59 PM
Yea but it feels good!浪浪

I bet it does.... Enjoy Rich!

Dirt Racing #1
07-21-2018, 11:59 PM
Pierce is great driver. But part of his engine problem. I think is he just runs them so hard

Hollis
07-22-2018, 12:00 AM
Yes they switched engine program because that's what bobby wanted. An nobody else is having engine problems just Peirce so that's were I'd start to look at.hmmm an only reason bobby had lead is because we all know it gets faster before the motor blows.I have heard Bobby's engine on some of the races. Sounds like he may be pushing it a little to much.??

Dirt Racing #1
07-22-2018, 12:01 AM
Peirce has always had equipment failures an breaks you all just didn't hear about it because he wasn't following a tour an wasn't racing as much as he is now.I’m sure pierce has top of the line equipment on his card. Sooner or later. Have to think maybe the driver. Is just to hard on the equipment/engine

Dirt Racing #1
07-22-2018, 12:02 AM
I have heard Bobby's engine on some of the races. Sounds like he may be pushing it a little to much.??I agree. Pro power isn’t some Mickey Mouse low grade engine.

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
07-22-2018, 12:02 AM
What does the World have to do with anything?

You figure it out there genius!

edavis71
07-22-2018, 12:03 AM
Man thats $ucks Bobby had a run there he passed allmost ever one 2 time

Sucks for Bobby for sure, had them more than covered. Saved ole bloomer a lot of embarrassment when that caution came out for Bobby. Ole Dopey said he pretty much didn't see that he had much competition during pre race interviews and he was behind by almost 11 seconds, uh yeah, smoke another one. you were getting your azz handed to you!!!

t4g2
07-22-2018, 12:06 AM
As I said only reason bobby was so fast is because the car goes faster on majority of the case before motor blows. If motor wasn't about to cut lose he would NOT been that fast

MI Dirt Fan
07-22-2018, 12:07 AM
You figure it out there genius!

When it comes from you I'm not sure. Are you saying the World is the only big event coming up?

Dirt Racing #1
07-22-2018, 12:14 AM
Sucks for Bobby for sure, had them more than covered. Saved ole bloomer a lot of embarrassment when that caution came out for Bobby. Ole Dopey said he pretty much didn't see that he had much competition during pre race interviews and he was behind by almost 11 seconds, uh yeah, smoke another one. you were getting your azz handed to you!!!Bloomer is confident. He is always over board on his interviews. He is always going to say he’s got the car to beat.

Illtsate32
07-22-2018, 12:21 AM
1st of all he dont rev the engine any harder that anyone else the gear and rev chip only let it rev so high, and t4g2 that is a full blown myth about before a motor goes there is no evidence what so ever to back that theory lol, yall need to pump the brakes you sounding real stupid right now with all this...

Hollis
07-22-2018, 12:29 AM
1st of all he dont rev the engine any harder that anyone else the gear and rev chip only let it rev so high, and t4g2 that is a full blown myth about before a motor goes there is no evidence what so ever to back that theory lol, yall need to pump the brakes you sounding real stupid right now with all this...You hit it Brutha. Gear and chip. Oh stupid me knows that. LOL

t4g2
07-22-2018, 12:34 AM
I've seen it too many times a car will check out take a big lead an few laps blow up. An he's the only 1 I know that's went through 4 motors this year. If it was engine builder other drivers would have same problem but they don't. An yeah I may sound stupid but bobby an dunn Benson are looking stupid.

Cardirt0
07-22-2018, 12:35 AM
Pierce is great driver. But part of his engine problem. I think is he just runs them so hard

His dad use to blow them up all the time. hes had a few teams give up cause he blow up a lot of them.

Centeroff
07-22-2018, 12:41 AM
Doesn’t take much talent to run the top. You have a slot car on a track and occasionally you jump track. Takes talent to run smooth laps with the car straight within a 10th or two for 100 laps. On the other hand, it doesn’t take many brain cells to watch the car in front of you drive away on the cushion and you make excuses why it isn’t the place to be. Scott will only run a cushion if the track has really slicked off or there isn’t a guardrail to hit in case of a mistake. Maybe his cars are always too tight?? Who knows! Bobby is the best in the business up there. Hats off. Kid is going to be tough for many years!

t4g2
07-22-2018, 12:45 AM
If a team can afford him to keep racing with as hard as he is on equipment. Idk if I'd say he's the best on the cushion, Babb is def up their. Babb runs whatever line the car an track gives him an does it well.

Cardirt0
07-22-2018, 12:46 AM
As I said only reason bobby was so fast is because the car goes faster on majority of the case before motor blows. If motor wasn't about to cut lose he would NOT been that fast

For 3 or 4 laps maybe, but not like it did for 40 laps. Think he just ran it to hard. and it poped

huskerdirt
07-22-2018, 01:13 AM
They say a motor runs its best right before it blows. We were smelling it in the stands for a good 30 laps.

What an absolute ass whipping he was laying to the field. Before the Bronson caution he had over a half track lead.

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 01:32 AM
Sucks for Bobby for sure, had them more than covered. Saved ole bloomer a lot of embarrassment when that caution came out for Bobby. Ole Dopey said he pretty much didn't see that he had much competition during pre race interviews and he was behind by almost 11 seconds, uh yeah, smoke another one. you were getting your azz handed to you!!!
Are you suffering from IBS? irritable bowel syndrome...

Try TUCKS!

Hahahahahaha

jlacey
07-22-2018, 01:35 AM
If Bloomer ran the top would that "doesnt take much talent to run the top" logic still apply?

tsand
07-22-2018, 01:46 AM
Him and Cody were sitting around on easy street all weekend long and get their a**es handed to them tonight. Piece and Davenport put on a heck of a show. one of the greatest dirt track driver ever Ralph Earnhardt always said most races are won at the shop . I never seen the man open the hood at the track. If Scott and Cody was working there ass off it meant they were struggling. Sometimes you know the car is the best you going to get it so you don't touch it.

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 01:50 AM
If Bloomer ran the top would that "doesnt take much talent to run the top" logic still apply?

Yes it would. Why?

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 01:52 AM
one of the greatest dirt track driver ever Ralph Earnhardt always said most races are won at the shop . I never seen the man open the hood at the track. If Scott and Cody was working there ass off it meant they were struggling. Sometimes you know the car is the best you going to get it so you don't touch it.

Unless you're testing. Hahahahahaha

spiderma4
07-22-2018, 02:05 AM
As I said only reason bobby was so fast is because the car goes faster on majority of the case before motor blows. If motor wasn't about to cut lose he would NOT been that fast

so his motor was about ready to blow up for 78 laps?

TMaCiLLiNi39
07-22-2018, 02:09 AM
I can tell you guys tonight, anyone that was at I-80 can tell you... Bobby Pierce’s team got what they deserved... he was entering the corners at well over 9000rpm... which means there was no chip... and Bob Pierce has been ksnown in the past to pull the chip in order to give Bobby that little extra umph... and tonight was no different. The 32 was literly entering the corner and everyone on the front stretch could hear Bobby’s cranked out engine well above everyone else’s engine... it was insane!!!!

james777777
07-22-2018, 02:23 AM
Sounds like Bobby needed a gear one or two higher. That would have knocked the RPMs down 1-200...

spiderma4
07-22-2018, 02:32 AM
if they got what they deserved it would been a win. that's what being young with talent is all about running on the edge sometimes it pays off sometimes not so much. As he gets older he will putt putt around the bottom or middle and we will say he never hammers the top anymore now drives like the 0 how boring!

Hoosier_Dirt
07-22-2018, 02:39 AM
Scott already paid for a boat. It was 53k$$$$$

Hope he kept the receipt!

golddirt
07-22-2018, 04:33 AM
Roflmao on the boat!! Bobby has always ran pp so why engine issues now.

getinit
07-22-2018, 05:12 AM
Roflmao on the boat!! Bobby has always ran pp so why engine issues now.

Not Pro Power FORDS, genius. Who else is running them and making them last? NOBODY!

You folks went from tire experts to drug experts and now you all know everything about engines. smh

getinit
07-22-2018, 05:16 AM
I've seen it too many times a car will check out take a big lead an few laps blow up. An he's the only 1 I know that's went through 4 motors this year. If it was engine builder other drivers would have same problem but they don't. An yeah I may sound stupid but bobby an dunn Benson are looking stupid.

Who else is running the same engines? There have been very, very few engine builders who have figured out how to make a ford engine last and Pro Power isn't on that list yet.

billetbirdcage
07-22-2018, 05:16 AM
It appeared/sounded to me like it dropped a valve on lap 74ish and yes it did sound like he was turning more RPM then most of the cars.

Also remember in the B or last chance race (forgot now) bobby lost half of the header and that was one of the cautions to remove the header that someone ran over. That could have had an effect on the exhaust valve, that I think let go but again dropping a valve is a guess from what I heard on the track.


Second note: the engine was still running when he stopped on the back stretch and continued to do so for a long time way after he got out of the car. I heard someone say it wouldn't shut off with the ignition switch so may had an ignition problem causing the failure but I find that unlikely.

Mod Runner
07-22-2018, 05:25 AM
Durham and Cornett sure have figured out how to make Ford engines last. Pro Power will get the durability figured out and will have an engine that will cause the other engine builders to search for more power.

getinit
07-22-2018, 05:27 AM
Durham and Cornett sure have figured out how to make Ford engines last. Pro Power will get the durability figured out and will have an engine that will cause the other engine builders to search for more power.

Yes they have. Like I said it's a short list. I agree Pro Power will figure it out, hopefully sooner than later tho.

Bob Hubbard
07-22-2018, 06:02 AM
Heck of a race ..... thanks dod .....

golddirt
07-22-2018, 06:19 AM
Not Pro Power FORDS, genius. Who else is running them and making them last? NOBODY!

You folks went from tire experts to drug experts and now you all know everything about engines. smh

Well i see you can't be involved in a conversation without being a S A, I'm sure you would do that in person.

MasterSbilt_Racer
07-22-2018, 06:41 AM
Not Pro Power FORDS, genius. Who else is running them and making them last? NOBODY!

You folks went from tire experts to drug experts and now you all know everything about engines. smh

Bobby blew 3 engines at the Wild West Shootout. Started with Wallace engines that Pearson had no trouble with. He has blown other brands. The only constant is they are blowing stuff up.

getinit
07-22-2018, 06:42 AM
Well i see you can't be involved in a conversation without being a S A, I'm sure you would do that in person.

Why wouldn't I? I get just as tired of ignorant comments in person as I do reading them.
It's too bad that a guy can start 28th, drive to the lead halfway thru the race & lead until 4 to go when the engine gives up and all the huggers can do is talk about how he don't know what he's doing. I knew after Scott didn't win that this board would be full of bashing other drivers, but I didn't think it would be this asinine.

Let's talk about Scott dooring Richards, lets talk about Scott pinching Pierce off down the frontstretch? He such a great driver one can only assume both moves were on purpose right? There, I stooped to the level of this board!

getinit
07-22-2018, 06:49 AM
Bobby blew 3 engines at the Wild West Shootout. Started with Wallace engines that Pearson had no trouble with. He has blown other brands. The only constant is they are blowing stuff up.

Are you sure Pearson never blew any up? Why isn't Pearson running Wallace engines now? I mean, if they were so dependable that he never blew any up all those years you'd think he'd be pretty committed to them. It's not like he's grenading them. Sounds like last night was a broken valve caused by the header breaking and falling off earlier.

zyoung25
07-22-2018, 06:52 AM
That was a small wore out engine. They were concerned it wouldn't make it through the weekend when they put it in, it was awesome while it lasted.

And tmac uses pro power fords. He is not setting the world on fire at the time, but i dont remember him having to drop out of a race over an engine problem.

Awesome race though.

MasterSbilt_Racer
07-22-2018, 06:58 AM
Are you sure Pearson never blew any up? Why isn't Pearson running Wallace engines now? I mean, if they were so dependable that he never blew any up all those years you'd think he'd be pretty committed to them. It's not like he's grenading them. Sounds like last night was a broken valve caused by the header breaking and falling off earlier.

Didn't say the number was zero. But, certainly not like this. That team is killing engines at a ridiculous pace. Parts don't fail that commonly. Something is wrong at the user level.

zyoung25
07-22-2018, 07:06 AM
Are you sure Pearson never blew any up? Why isn't Pearson running Wallace engines now? I mean, if they were so dependable that he never blew any up all those years you'd think he'd be pretty committed to them. It's not like he's grenading them. Sounds like last night was a broken valve caused by the header breaking and falling off earlier.

Larry Wallace retired from engine building. And they had one engine with nearly 2500 laps on it at the end of the year last year. That sounds pretty dependable to me.

Hoosier_Dirt
07-22-2018, 07:19 AM
Bobby Pierce is no harder on engines than anyone else. Just having some bad luck right now.

Pennsboro23
07-22-2018, 07:30 AM
If a team can afford him to keep racing with as hard as he is on equipment. Idk if I'd say he's the best on the cushion, Babb is def up their. Babb runs whatever line the car an track gives him an does it well.

Just wondering why you dislike Bobby so much?

kazual
07-22-2018, 07:32 AM
I80 seldom disappoints

Illtsate32
07-22-2018, 07:36 AM
Why wouldn't I? I get just as tired of ignorant comments in person as I do reading them.
It's too bad that a guy can start 28th, drive to the lead halfway thru the race & lead until 4 to go when the engine gives up and all the huggers can do is talk about how he don't know what he's doing. I knew after Scott didn't win that this board would be full of bashing other drivers, but I didn't think it would be this asinine.

Let's talk about Scott dooring Richards, lets talk about Scott pinching Pierce off down the frontstretch? He such a great driver one can only assume both moves were on purpose right? There, I stooped to the level of this board!


Bobby Pierce is no harder on engines than anyone else. Just having some bad luck right now.

Thank you. I seen him run a handfull of times this year and his motor pitch sounds no different than anyone else. The last four years with PP in the Pierce car I think I remember maybe 1 blown engine. If anything its geared to low or something, But people putting the blame on Bobby saying hes too hard on them is downright outlandish.. I would take that as a badge of honor that an engine cant be built to stand up to Bobbys right foot lol...

MasterSbilt_Racer
07-22-2018, 07:37 AM
Bobby Pierce is no harder on engines than anyone else. Just having some bad luck right now.

Never said it was specifically Bobby, but top notch parts dont just fail all the time. You have to have fuel or oil or other issues to just blow engines consistently.

Illtsate32
07-22-2018, 07:43 AM
It was hard for me to watch I can only imagine the heartbreak he and his team felt, 53k would of gotten them a fresh motor of their choice..maybe lol..

tsand
07-22-2018, 09:02 AM
It appeared/sounded to me like it dropped a valve on lap 74ish and yes it did sound like he was turning more RPM then most of the cars.

Also remember in the B or last chance race (forgot now) bobby lost half of the header and that was one of the cautions to remove the header that someone ran over. That could have had an effect on the exhaust valve, that I think let go but again dropping a valve is a guess from what I heard on the track.


Second note: the engine was still running when he stopped on the back stretch and continued to do so for a long time way after he got out of the car. I heard someone say it wouldn't shut off with the ignition switch so may had an ignition problem causing the failure but I find that unlikely.
If the engine wouldn't cut off then the engine was so hot that it couldn't cut off. Somebody on another thread said you could smell the engine under caution. Ive seen people run a motor so hot that they had to take a water hose to the motor to get it to shut off. Most people would have pulled in long before bobby did but when your not paying the bills and its 53 grand you stay out until the motor melts down.

MasterSbilt_Racer
07-22-2018, 09:15 AM
If the engine wouldn't cut off then the engine was so hot that it couldn't cut off. Somebody on another thread said you could smell the engine under caution. Ive seen people run a motor so hot that they had to take a water hose to the motor to get it to shut off. Most people would have pulled in long before bobby did but when your not paying the bills and its 53 grand you stay out until the motor melts down.

That poster knows the difference between running and dieseling because it was hot. Water would be pushing out at that point.

cgrace
07-22-2018, 09:52 AM
Pierce Sr used to always signal him to stay out in the Summernationals and Midwest. He was taught to stay out till she can't go. You could smell, hear and see those engines blowing up, we'd sit up in the stands and shake our heads in disbelief.

tsand
07-22-2018, 10:06 AM
That poster knows the difference between running and dieseling because it was hot. Water would be pushing out at that point.

Not if there's no water to push out. Could have had a rock go through the radiator if you start dieseling it means you lost the water a long time ago. Like. I said someone who was there said you could smell the motor cooking before he stopped.

MUD MAESTRO
07-22-2018, 10:42 AM
Just thinking.....one pp motor blown up 40 grand. 53 thousand winnners share up in smoke. Hey, for 93,000 dollars was there a manufactures warranty?

ALLDIRT
07-22-2018, 10:50 AM
Thats called talent!

Luck has made so many look like they have talent .

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 10:56 AM
Anyone can run the top all night with a fummy rr.... 😜

kidrock
07-22-2018, 10:56 AM
Luck has made so many look like they have talent .

Is that true of bad luck as well.

kidrock
07-22-2018, 10:58 AM
Anyone can run the top all night with a fummy rr.... 

Not many can do it lap after lap like Bobby, JD and Babb, ect. ect. even with that funny rr

ALLDIRT
07-22-2018, 10:58 AM
Why wouldn't I? I get just as tired of ignorant comments in person as I do reading them.
It's too bad that a guy can start 28th, drive to the lead halfway thru the race & lead until 4 to go when the engine gives up and all the huggers can do is talk about how he don't know what he's doing. I knew after Scott didn't win that this board would be full of bashing other drivers, but I didn't think it would be this asinine.

Let's talk about Scott dooring Richards, lets talk about Scott pinching Pierce off down the frontstretch? He such a great driver one can only assume both moves were on purpose right? There, I stooped to the level of this board!



No it's to bad when a guys boy don't win , he slams someone else because he didn't
He didn't win , deal with it .

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 10:58 AM
Is that true of bad luck as well.

R u saying Bloomer is not talented? 😏

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:00 AM
Not many can do it lap after lap like Bobby, JD and Babb, ect. ect. even with that funny rr

And you too im guessing? Geez smh

ALLDIRT
07-22-2018, 11:02 AM
Is that true of bad luck as well.

Could be . You can help make your own luck by using your talent , or your ignorance .

kidrock
07-22-2018, 11:03 AM
R u saying Bloomer is not talented? 

Not hardly............................................ .........

kidrock
07-22-2018, 11:05 AM
Could be . You can help make your own luck by using your talent , or your ignorance .

I'm guessing the ignorant part is the bad luck side of things lol

ALLDIRT
07-22-2018, 11:08 AM
R u saying Bloomer is not talented? 

For those that are so offended to admit when they see talent , or have luck assist or add to
their talent , are more offended because of their lack of it .

kidrock
07-22-2018, 11:11 AM
I'm guessing JD had both talent and luck last night because, he is the one that gets to cash the check.

ALLDIRT
07-22-2018, 11:12 AM
Thats called talent!

Luck has made so many look like they have talent .

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:13 AM
For those that are so offended to admit when they see talent , or have luck assist or add to
their talent , are more offended because of their lack of it .
Inconsistency speaks for itself. You either have it or you dont. Where was all that talent in 2016, 17? 😀

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:15 AM
I'm guessing JD had both talent and luck last night because, he is the one that gets to cash the check.

You're drinking again ain't ya? Hahahaaaaa

SLIDING SIDEWAYS
07-22-2018, 11:16 AM
R u saying Bloomer is not talented? 

You have talent!

t4g2
07-22-2018, 11:18 AM
Pennsboro clear your PMS an I'll explain why I dislike bobby aka silver spoon boy, if I can't pass you I'll wreck you Peirce.

WildBill32
07-22-2018, 11:18 AM
I must say... Bobby put on a hell of a show for the I-80 race fans! That was fun to watch.

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:18 AM
You have talent!

Thanks Rich. I knew I could count on U! Hahahaaaaa

ALLDIRT
07-22-2018, 11:19 AM
I'm guessing JD had both talent and luck last night because, he is the one that gets to cash the check.

In my pinion , I would take a truck load of both for sure . For when my sh1t was about
to go , bring on the luck dog .

MI Dirt Fan
07-22-2018, 11:21 AM
I don't think they "cash" a check. Last year they gave Tmac stacks of cash.

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:23 AM
Pennsboro clear your PMS an I'll explain why I dislike bobby aka silver spoon boy, if I can't pass you I'll wreck you Peirce.

Clean what? Lmao.

Everyone without blinders on can see it. No need for explanation but pms on. Hahhahahahaha

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:25 AM
I don't think they "cash" a check. Last year they gave Tmac stacks of cash.

Hes gonna wear out his breaks doing that! 😆

t4g2
07-22-2018, 11:26 AM
Well several incidents over the years is why I dislike oh bobby. Like the feger bobby incident. My neice was standing in front of fegers car talking to Jason when Bob came flying back on 4 wheeler knocked fegers car off the stands an hit my neice.

Pennsboro23
07-22-2018, 11:27 AM
Pennsboro clear your PMS an I'll explain why I dislike bobby aka silver spoon boy, if I can't pass you I'll wreck you Peirce.

All clear....

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:28 AM
Well several incidents over the years is why I dislike oh bobby. Like the feger bobby incident. My neice was standing in front of fegers car talking to Jason when Bob came flying back on 4 wheeler knocked fegers car off the stands an hit my neice.

Yeah but if you don't like it.... You know the rest.

t4g2
07-22-2018, 11:28 AM
The deal when bobby tried taking out Babb an Babb slammed on brakes an bodfy took himself out at Macon, or the slide job gone bad to take Schmitt out when Schmitt was running Peirce chassis an same with feger an shirley

Cardirt0
07-22-2018, 11:28 AM
Bob P use to say, Go till it Blows, And people dont remember he Smoked a lot of them. The people that pay did Bob spent a lot of other peoples money on motors.. looks like his boy will do the same. Fast but at what Cost. They may have to put a its hot kill switch on them. its hot rebuild 5000, it blow up 25000 or more. If they ran it out of water and cooked it, May have to toss the block thats 25000 just for that.

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:29 AM
All clear....

Did it hurt? 😀

Pennsboro23
07-22-2018, 11:30 AM
Did it hurt? 

Will you be at Fairbury?

Centeroff
07-22-2018, 11:30 AM
Brand new aqua force 28’ inboard for sale 30k$. Paid 53k Friday and had never seen the water lol

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:33 AM
I expect a rear visit from ole pierceFAN anytime now. That dude will defend a rattlesnake if it had a 32 on it. Lmao, I still think he is in love with Angie 😘

Hahahaaaaa

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:34 AM
Centerdork.... You're delirious!

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 11:36 AM
Will you be at Fairbury?

Every year. Why? 😀

Cardirt0
07-22-2018, 11:41 AM
If he does 3 more motors he be Gone, thats 3 they have smoked so far that i know of. If they hurt the heads on this one that 50000 out the window cause they had to have trashed the block, this was a melt down not a blow up short block toss it in the trash.

MI Dirt Fan
07-22-2018, 11:48 AM
Was this the same motor that broke a valve Thursday night?

t4g2
07-22-2018, 11:51 AM
If he's out of that ride where will he go? The greatest driver ever (rolling eyes) haha cough cough racing will be over nobody to watch if he's not racing

Pennsboro23
07-22-2018, 11:52 AM
Every year. Why? 

Do you need reserved tickets?

Cardirt0
07-22-2018, 11:59 AM
Was this the same motor that broke a valve Thursday night?

Dont think do cause they said this was there last motor.

Mindwalker
07-22-2018, 12:51 PM
Do you need reserved tickets?

Nope im good. I never get to excited over where i put my butt lol. If i can find a fat girl im in heaven.... 😀 thanks tho

Swampy121
07-22-2018, 01:01 PM
Second note: the engine was still running when he stopped on the back stretch and continued to do so for a long time way after he got out of the car. I heard someone say it wouldn't shut off with the ignition switch so may had an ignition problem causing the failure but I find that unlikely.

Did it think it was a runaway diesel? LOL

getinit
07-22-2018, 01:07 PM
If he's out of that ride where will he go? The greatest driver ever (rolling eyes) haha cough cough racing will be over nobody to watch if he's not racing

Sure looked like a dang good driver last night.

t4g2
07-22-2018, 01:22 PM
How did that work out for him?Everyone has there day/night. But as u been seeing how rough on equipment is. Its not just part failures. Its definitely lack of maintenance and preventive maintenance. Especially this last month.

spiderma4
07-22-2018, 01:31 PM
Well several incidents over the years is why I dislike oh bobby. Like the feger bobby incident. My neice was standing in front of fegers car talking to Jason when Bob came flying back on 4 wheeler knocked fegers car off the stands an hit my neice.

so u don't like bobby because of what bob did? what was bobby then 16 17 yrs old and ur bitching about how he drove then. the bad part of fegers and bobs deal was him getting out of the pierce cars and car swapping spending tons of money and hasn't been the same

getinit
07-22-2018, 01:35 PM
How did that work out for him?Everyone has there day/night. But as u been seeing how rough on equipment is. Its not just part failures. Its definitely lack of maintenance and preventive maintenance. Especially this last month.

well, well, well. Seems all you guys don't know what you thought you knew. The engine belongs to Jeff Hoker and he told Bobby whatever happens,just don't stop. Also, the car has gauges that will replay the whole race. Bob says water temp was 198 degrees, 210 degrees oil temp, 65lbs of oil pressure and 8200-8400 on the tach. Tell me again how this was all Bobby's fault. So much for the people who said you could smell it melting down in the stands. lol Go to dirt on dirt and read the article.