Cedar Lake Thursday night updates

[MI Dirt Fan]

Full program. 40 lap $6k to win. Last year's event was rained out and ran Friday. Chris Madden was the winner.

Friday has the double heat format and last chance races. Saturday is the 100 lap for $50k.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Anybody know if mcdowell will be in his own car for cedar lake?

[Chris Thomason]

Anybody know if mcdowell will be in his own car for cedar lake?

Pretty sure I remember him saying that in a DoD interview from one of the So Nat races

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Pretty sure I remember him saying that in a DoD interview from one of the So Nat races

Thanks CT........

[Pennsboro23]

As wide open as any crown jewel in recent memory.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Jimmy Mars is the first car on track for hotlaps.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Mars fastest in hotlaps followed by Sheppard

[ptown]

Hot laps at 6:30, be prepared for some late nights typical USA Nationals

[MI Dirt Fan]

Devin Moran has fast time right now with a 13.563

[HoosierDirtFan]

45 is the car count

[MI Dirt Fan]

Moran
Sheppard
Madden
Junghans
Hudson O'Neal

[MI Dirt Fan]

Davenport has fast time with a 13.992 so far.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Davenport
Mars
Clanton
Babb
Heckanest Jr.

Devin Moran has fast time overall. 3rd straight event.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Heat 1
Madden
Moran
Hudson Oneal
Don Oneal

McDowell and Pierce we're 7th and 8th

[MI Dirt Fan]

Heat 2
Sheppard
Bronson
Junghans
Eckert

Marlar and Weiss 5th and 6th

[MI Dirt Fan]

Heat 3
Davenport
Clanton
Shirley
Heckanest Jr

Terbo and Moyer 5th and 6th. Erb Jr 8th

[MI Dirt Fan]

Heat 4
Babb
Mars
Owens
Rauen

[dalemcfan]

Are tonight and Friday night points races or just Saturday?

[MI Dirt Fan]

Tonight is for sure a regular points night. Friday is not a regular points night

[MI Dirt Fan]

Should be a couple good Bmains. Good cars in them

[rickybrown1952]

Tonight and Saturday night are both point nights

[MI Dirt Fan]

Says on DoD Pierce is in the Pierce car they finished third with last year at Cedar Lake. The Rocket is a bit wounded from last week.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Jason Rauen has EPJs Black diamond house car crew working on his car this weekend. EPJ is using Rauen's hauler this season.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Bmain 1 transfers
Chris Simpson
Weiss
Marlar

McDowell and Pierce 5th and 6th

[MI Dirt Fan]

Redraw

JD Madden
Sheppard Babb
Mars Bronson
Moran Clanton

[Mindwalker]

Says on DoD Pierce is in the Pierce car they finished third with last year at Cedar Lake. The Rocket is a bit wounded from last week.

He won a big race tho so im sure it was worth it. Hahahahaha

[MI Dirt Fan]

Bmain 2
Moyer
Bruening
Breazeale

Terbo hit the wall leading on lap 5.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

That sucks i changed picks at last minute to erb from breazeale geez

[rickybrown1952]

Tonight and Saturday night are both point nightsWhoops my mistake tonight is a regular points night Saturday night is show up points

[MI Dirt Fan]

Sheppard wins on the last lap

[MI Dirt Fan]

Full rundown

https://mobile.twitter.com/WoOLateModels/status/1025213772519100418/photo/1

[WisWildManFan]

Whoops my mistake tonight is a regular points night Saturday night is show up pointsWhat's the theory on this?

[Dlmfan123]

Tomorrow there is no feature just passing point heat races to set the line up for Saturday

[dirtMAN007]

Seems Eckert has become a field filler on the tour as of late .

[rickybrown1952]

What's the theory on this?Someone earlier asked what nights were point nights so I first thought it was Friday and Saturday night But I found out Later that points night is just thursday night is points night

[racincowboy02]

Ok so will somebody explain the points deal for the weekend i know tonight was a regular points night

[WisWildManFan]

Someone earlier asked what nights were point nights so I first thought it was Friday and Saturday night But I found out Later that points night is just thursday night is points nightI don't understand why Saturday wouldn't be a points night? Why would woo do this, what's the point?

[rickybrown1952]

I agree Thursday points night friday night two rounds of heats with passing points. Saturday night should be a another points night but it's not.it's show up points. I think they have that because they have Attendence Bonus'es it actually pays off pretty good.

[Tireguy17]

Last nights feature was some of the best racing we’ve seen at the USA Nats in many years. Hopefully they hit the track prep tonight and tomorrow.

[#FALSuperman]

There really isn't any ryme or reason to how or why WOO does what they do. Does Lucas have any race paying 50K that doesn't award points and gives "show-up" points across the field?

[TerryM]

Has anyone confirmed this "show up points only" deal for Saturday night? That can't be right. Can it?

[rickybrown1952]

Has anyone confirmed this "show up points only" deal for Saturday night? That can't be right. Can it?I know DOD is incorrect sometimes but that's where the Info came from

[Dlmfan123]

Eshelman said it on the live broadcast

[bullring]

So does everybody get a trophy?

[LM1M]

Any idea who will be there today/tomorrow that didn't run last night? Joe Godsey, Jared Miley, and GR Smith are all Fans Fund guys so assuming they will be there.

[GregA12]

Any idea who will be there today/tomorrow that didn't run last night? Joe Godsey, Jared Miley, and GR Smith are all Fans Fund guys so assuming they will be there.

Highly doubt it. Thinking they woulda been here last night to get a race in.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Bailes will prolly drive gr's car at lancaster in carolina clash race

[MI Dirt Fan]

Any idea who will be there today/tomorrow that didn't run last night? Joe Godsey, Jared Miley, and GR Smith are all Fans Fund guys so assuming they will be there.
I was kinda wondering myself. Thought the count was kinda low. I was expecting 55-60.

[WisWildManFan]

So woo drivers can use a provisional if needed make a few laps and pull in and get the same amount of points as a guy that wins the thing... Seems like bull(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) to me. Or miss the race all together and get show up points?

[MI Dirt Fan]

They aren't getting the same amount of money as the guy winning the thing though.

I don't think you get show up points for missing a race. That's why they are called show up points.

[WisWildManFan]

They aren't getting the same amount of money as the guy winning the thing though.I don't think you get show up points for missing a race. That's why they are called show up points.I meant missing the A main, guess they probably force you to use a provisionals either way. Why even bother having points if you're not going to count one of your biggest races of the year

[TerryM]

Their biggest race of the year and they aren't scoring series points lol. That is really hard to believe. Just ridiculous.

[MI Dirt Fan]

I still haven't seen anything yet on the WoO website or any WoO article saying it's not a points night

[WildBill32]

Saturday is a show up points only night. Woo does not like the passing points format. That's why it will be a show up points only night.

[MI Dirt Fan]

So why are they doing it then?

[WildBill32]

It makes for better racing for the fans. Per Cedar Lake. I-80 does it. And so does the North South. You get to see Double heat races. And the fans love it.

[drich24]

It has been show-up points for at least the last 4-5 years. Even when they did regular qualifying and heat races.

[WildBill32]

Hmmmmm..... I did not know that.

[TerryM]

I didn't know it either. The big races at I-80 and Florence are points races, unless something else has changed that I wasn't aware of. You'd think these guys would prefer racing for points instead of having them evenly distributed. Kind of takes the "racing" part out of the equation. It also makes me lose a little respect for the WOO series. Not that they care what I think. I'm just a fan. Who spends a lot of money and a lot of time to SHOW UP and support these guys. Expecting to see them race hard for positions, money ... and points. Do I get show up money next time I attend a WOO race?

[joshroth14]

Lucas>WoO. No comparison.

[joshroth14]

I didn't know it either. The big races at I-80 and Florence are points races, unless something else has changed that I wasn't aware of. You'd think these guys would prefer racing for points instead of having them evenly distributed. Kind of takes the "racing" part out of the equation. It also makes me lose a little respect for the WOO series. Not that they care what I think. I'm just a fan. Who spends a lot of money and a lot of time to SHOW UP and support these guys. Expecting to see them race hard for positions, money ... and points. Do I get show up money next time I attend a WOO race?

You will be awarded 75 points at your next WoO event.

[FANSFund]

Since the World of Outlaws began sanctioning the event (2010) and when I was involved with the USA Nationals - the Saturday night event has ALWAYS been a non-points night for the World of Outlaws (show up points only). That was at the request of the drivers who ran the series with several of those drivers now on the Lucas Oil series.

The Thursday night show has carried various sanctions in the past including the now defunct WDRL. The World of Outlaws began sanctioning the show in 2013. I BELIEVE they sanctioned that night as a regular points night since 2013 (this was after my affiliation with the event but believe this to be accurate).

Someone asked the question about a 6:30 PM hot lap start time and mentioned in a negative aspect. This start time is intentional for several reasons:

1.) later start time keeps the track in better shape throughout the night versus burning up the track in the hot sun before the heats or qualifying start. Wish more tracks would start later and run an efficient program - it results in better racing and better program.
2.) travel - if you have ever been to Cedar Lake getting there from anywhere south or west of the track is difficult. Freeway traffic is at a stand still with all the people leaving for cabins on Thursday and Friday. Moving back hot laps and start times allows for fans not to miss anything if they are coming to the track from work
3.) Party - again, if you have been to CLS they put on a small party Thursday night, massive fireworks show Friday night, a mega party Friday night and Saturday night they have a lights-out driver intros for the feature event. All of these things depend upon it being dark to be effective. A later start time ensures the sun will be set.

I have been to tracks all over the US - is CLS the most efficient in running a major show, No. That said, they are one of the top five at running a major event and do a great job providing a lot of value-added entertainment that you don't get at most other big events. Judging by the packed grandstands and campground... the fans attending must agree.

Rich Olson
Minneapolis, MN

[BigDaddy84]

Definitely a must see event for any late model fan. I have been once and plan on making it back several times. It is a long haul but worth it.

[Jim11h]

If you want to see points racing and points battles go to your weekly dirt track. Wanna see lot's of cars and some of best drivers racing for pretty nice chunk of change then attend a major event. Pretty simple concept huh! Next we'll be Bitchin that the 2 major Eldora races aren't sanctioned by Lucas and it gives ump points

[Dlmfan123]

I would rather see a regular show 6000 to win like it was supposed to be. I personally don’t think the track races well enough for passing points

[Highside Hustler25]

You will be awarded 75 points at your next WoO event.

...but he must attend the mandatory autograph session or he will have to forfeit them points:)

But on a serious note, every track should have a Rich Olson:cool:

[Mindwalker]

Or a rich grandad 😀