Moyer

[MI Dirt Fan]

To race "Down under" in the USA invasion tour in 2019.

http://billymoyer.com/091218pr.html

[dirty-white-boy]

they must all be 3k to win shows....

[Clayton_Wetter]

they must all be 3k to win shows....

:):):)...........

[Tireguy17]

Going a long ways to pick some cherries.

[Thedoctor]

Racing full time again in 2019? Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

[Hoosier_Dirt]

I used to not be much of a fan of Moyer, but the man is 60 yrs old and nothing left to prove. Seems to be enjoying racing, thats whats its all about.

[CageFaraday]

I used to not be much of a fan of Moyer, but the man is 60 yrs old and nothing left to prove. Seems to be enjoying racing, thats whats its all about.

Amen to that. Race on your own terms, even if it is $3K at a time. How many wins do they have?

[Highside Hustler25]

I'm sure their are some nice incentives for Billy to go there. Guys do it all the time.

[Zonks32x]

Going a long ways to pick some cherries.

If you were in your 60's and someone offered you a paid trip to Austraila, bet you'd accept to.

Not like they're going to Honduras...

[Dlmfan123]

Do billy and terbo get along?

[ZERO25]

Going a long ways to pick some cherries.

Kiwis man, kiwis! :)

[kidrock]

I used to not be much of a fan of Moyer, but the man is 60 yrs old and nothing left to prove. Seems to be enjoying racing, thats whats its all about.

I agree he's already done it all so, like you said nothing else to prove. I say good to him for doing what he wants when he wants.

[kidrock]

Are there any cherries there, Hillside Hustler dude?

None for you lol...…………………………………..

[Clayton_Wetter]

I agree he's already done it all so, like you said nothing else to prove. I say good to him for doing what he wants when he wants.

Vulture Culture

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

I used to not be much of a fan of Moyer, but the man is 60 yrs old and nothing left to prove. Seems to be enjoying racing, thats whats its all about.


Thats why hes "THEE GOAT"

[MI Dirt Fan]

Thats why hes "THEE GOAT"

Easy now. I don't want that to be the last post you make on here.

[Clayton_Wetter]

thats why hes "thee goat"

Thee Vulture!!!

[plunks7]

I agree he's already done it all so, like you said nothing else to prove. I say good to him for doing what he wants when he wants.

Don't even get me started on KCP!!!!!!!

[kidrock]

Don't even get me started on KCP!!!!!!!

lol..............................................

[Snowmanracr21]

LMAO at people ripping Moyer. cherry picker? LMAO! Hes 60 years old and the winningest late model driver of all time and hes won 6 World 100s. 5 with over 200 cars. And the 6th he started at the tail. He has nothing to prove to anyone. Let the man enjoy himself now and have fun.

[TBSprintFan]

Thats why hes "THEE GOAT"

Any driver that calls him or herself the goat is an a $ $.

[kidrock]

LMAO at people ripping Moyer. cherry picker? LMAO! Hes 60 years old and the winningest late model driver of all time and hes won 6 World 100s. 5 with over 200 cars. And the 6th he started at the tail. He has nothing to prove to anyone. Let the man enjoy himself now and have fun.

Agreed...……………………………………………………………..

[kazual]

Billy isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. But he is iconic in dirt late model racing. Interesting that some entitled fans think they have the right to criticize where he runs or doesn’t run. He’s earned his chance to run wherever and whenever he wishes. Maybe it’s not that he’s too old but that you were born too late, Gemini Christmas.

[waaac77]

He races for a living and makes smart decisions on where to go to make money so he can keep his business afloat and race his whole life and people get upset about that because of two reasons. Lazyness and jealousy. Moyer is smart with his business. Rip him all you want but I’d say it’s more likely he’s more successful than you are at life.

Interesting Fact I had time to figure out recently as I was curious...
Bloomer and Moyer have both had amazing careers. I know there has been much discussion on here about what a crown jewel is and what isn’t but I looked at what I consider to be the top 5 major races that have been in existence since the 80s when you had only these 5 races and not 16 other $20,000 to win races that want to call themselves Crown Jewels. The 5 races I looked at are the 1) Dream 2) World 3) USA Nationals 4) North/South 5) DTWC. Bloomer was the clear leader but I looked to see who the top 20 in history would be and just judging off of these 5 race victories here is the top 20...

1) Scott Bloomquist (22) 4 Globes, 8 Dreams
2) Billy Moyer (15) 6 Globes, 2 Dreams
3) Donnie Moran (10)
4) Jack Boggs (9)
5) Jimmy Owens (8)
6) Freddy Smith (7)
7) Jonathan Davenport (5)
7) Brian Birkhofer (5)
7) Don O’Neal (5)
7) Jimmy Mars (5)
11) Jeff Purvis (4)
11) Dale McDowell (4)
13) Chub Frank (3)
13) Josh Richards (3)
13) Brandon Sheppard (3)
13) Larry Moore (3)
13) Rick Aukland (3)
13) Bart Hartman (3)
13) Rick Eckert (3)

[Highside Hustler25]

Hard to disagree with your top 4 waaac77

[CageFaraday]

Thats why hes "THEE GOAT"
You got that right.


Thee Vulture!!!
If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch. Jealousy doesn't suit you.

[waaac77]

If you did disagree... you’d be disagreeing with the facts. Just want to make it clear that ranking isn’t an opinion like DoDs stupid rankings.

[CageFaraday]

Very well put. I think if you included total career victories it would be more meaningful. Moyer has followed a more outlaw type schedule for most of his career where Bloomquist tended to be more of a series follower after HavATampa got going.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Very well put. I think if you included total career victories it would be more meaningful. Moyer has followed a more outlaw type schedule for most of his career where Bloomquist tended to be more of a series follower after HavATampa got going.

Either way both are exceptionaly well at what they do. Just one acts like a racer should w/o drama

[joshroth14]

The thing about majors is no matter which ones you include or take away Bloomquist would have the most. If you added the Show Me 100, Topless and Knoxville to that list Bloomquist just pulls further away.

[joshroth14]

Bloomquist has won over 30 races that's paid $40,000 or more to win.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Bloomquist has won over 30 races that's paid $40,000 or more to win.

But not many $3K to win races!!!! Dang!!!! :)

[kidrock]

If the world 100 is the biggest race of the year and Moyer has 6 and Bloomer 4 doesn't that make Moyer the best ever lol

[kidrock]

Does anyone know how long Jeff Purvis race in a dirt late model before he headed to Nascar?

[PRCKartRacer9]

Purvis would've ended all discussion. Unfortunately I was too young to ever watch him but his record speaks for itself. What Bloomer and Moyer have done and continue to do though is nothing short of extraordinary. They've adapted to to all the changes in these cars and still win agaisnt the best in the business. The fact that they get to continue to do what they love at their age just doesn't sit well with jealous fans. We shoukd just enjoy it while it lasts.

[ZERO25]

If the world 100 is the biggest race of the year and Moyer has 6 and Bloomer 4 doesn't that make Moyer the best ever lol

Yep, he's the best weiner, I mean whiner! :)

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Yep, he's the best weiner, I mean whiner! :)

And your the bun!

[Clayton_Wetter]

If the world 100 is the biggest race of the year and Moyer has 6 and Bloomer 4 doesn't that make Moyer the best ever lol

And 8 Dreams equals 12.

[ZERO25]

And 8 Dreams equals 12.

That 800 grand don't count.......according to the 4m haters!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Does anyone know how long Jeff Purvis race in a dirt late model before he headed to Nascar?

When he left, he was the man. Look at the historical results for the World 100. When he quits showing up in the results, he was gone. He was 1st or 2nd 6 times in 8 straight starts in the World from 82 to 89. Then he was gone.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Waaac77,

The USA Nationals were first run in the late 80s. I think you need to pick a race that is older.

[buster83]

north/south dates back too 1983.

[kidrock]

When he left, he was the man. Look at the historical results for the World 100. When he quits showing up in the results, he was gone. He was 1st or 2nd 6 times in 8 straight starts in the World from 82 to 89. Then he was gone.

Ok thanks, Yes as far as I'm concerned he was the best but, just didn't race long enough in the dirt late model for some to know how good he really was.

[joshroth14]

Purvis was the best until Scott came and was consistently beating him. Purvis knew it was time to move on

[PRCKartRacer9]

Read that Purvis is still running crates at Golden Isle. Anyone confirm?

[CageFaraday]

Either way both are exceptionaly well at what they do. Just one acts like a racer should w/o drama

I somewhat agree, Moyer is definitely more my taste, but I understand why the so called drama exists with Bloomquist. Way, way back in the 80's in one of the very first interviews I ever read with Bloomquist he stressed the usefulness of the psych-out, psychological war fare. He said he purposely crafts his image in every way to appear intimidating. From the colors he chooses on his cars, to his hauler and his public demeanor. Over the years I've seen the usefulness of intimidation, not bullying, but providing and encouraging an air of superiority, which eliminates having to race a good portion of racers, they take themselves out mentally. In my early 30's I had the opportunity to work with Buck Simmons & Jack Pennington and they both at times used mental tactics to beat other drivers. Buck for example if we qualified badly or for whatever reason found ourselves deep in the field would deploy certain tactics that made passing guys much easier. On every start/restart he'd pull along side the next car in line, gun the engine a few times, but never look at them. Most of the time when they went back green that driver would try extra hard to keep Buck behind him and end up over driving and Buck would easily cruise by and onto the next victim. He had more tools like that in his drivers toolbox, but that always stood out to me how effective it was, again and again. The mental game, though denied by most victims, is very effective and crucial to success in motorsports and warfare. Shock & awe.

[waaac77]

Waaac77,

The USA Nationals were first run in the late 80s. I think you need to pick a race that is older.

There really only is one other race that would matter and that would be the Hillbilly. It’s the oldest race but I looked at the full feature results on DoD and the field isn’t as stout as the 5 I included. If you look at those 5 they’re all stacked with the best from all around the country. Just looking at the feature drivers and where they were all from, the Hillbilly looks to have been more of a regional event that got a lot of drivers from West Virginia or Southern PA in it’s early years. The winners purse was $25,000 for a long time then went to $40,000 then went back to $25,000 and now this year is the first year it was at $50,000.

Looking at the results of the Dream (1994, not in the 80s I guess but a huge race since 94 which is a long time ago), USA Nationals (1988), North/South (1983), World (1972) and DTWC (1982) you always have the best from all over the country every single year which then makes the win more meaningful because it was always against the best in the business and everyone brings their A-Game. I think if you can win those races you’re lit and if you can win them more than once you’re legit.

Some other big races to consider could be:
PDC (1990)
Show-Me (1993)
Topless 100 (1993)
Knoxville (2004)
Silver Dollar (2011)

I guess I could be forgetting another race. What other races still exist that started in the 80s or early 90s that is still around today and gets the best drivers year in and year out?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I think the Hillbilly is/was a big race. No way it was regional in the 80s. Jackson 100 was big back then.

[PRCKartRacer9]

Winternationals

[ZERO25]

Read that Purvis is still running crates at Golden Isle. Anyone confirm?

Definitely not, they don't have a crate class!

[PRCKartRacer9]

It was on Wikipedia. Haha

[PRCKartRacer9]

Looks like it may be some relation, Clay Purvis

[TerryM]

I can remember when Bloomquist cherry-picked 1K and 2K to win races all over Eastern Kentucky instead of taking on the loaded STARS Series fields for bigger money three or four hours away. This was after he'd already won his first World 100. I know, because I attended many of those races. His groupies won't ever admit that though. But they want to attack a 60-year old legend with a long history of back trouble, for not travelling the country enough lol. These kinds of things are why everyone in the sport thinks 4m is a joke.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I can remember when Bloomquist cherry-picked 1K and 2K to win races all over Eastern Kentucky instead of taking on the loaded STARS Series fields for bigger money three or four hours away. This was after he'd already won his first World 100. I know, because I attended many of those races. His groupies won't ever admit that though. But they want to attack a 60-year old legend with a long history of back trouble, for not travelling the country enough lol. These kinds of things are why everyone in the sport thinks 4m is a joke.Hey buddy, don’t forget divorcing his wife of 30 years or so and bangin Rayburn’s daughter I think she is.

They are equals to me, and either has the right anytime to race wherever they please.

[PRCKartRacer9]

Moyer dropped in a Pro Power this afternoon