Bloomquist in a crate!!

[SHOE32]

should be fun to see how he does for $20,000 this weekend.

[MI Dirt Fan]

I posed that question almost 3 weeks ago and surprisingly got no response.

http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?387341-Bloomquist-next-event

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

I posed that question almost 3 weeks ago and surprisingly got no response.

http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?387341-Bloomquist-next-event


Thats cuz nobody cared to answer you!😁

[MI Dirt Fan]

Thats cuz nobody cared to answer you!
Go feed the dogs


It doesn't have him listed on DoD as an entrant. But it's been on his schedule for atleast a couple weeks.

[dirtdobber45]

He'll go down and spankem. Then the whining will begin... lmfao

[ZERO25]

Go ahead and put his name on the check!

https://www.facebook.com/DirtRacingMedia/posts/2165994966758697?comment_id=2166074566750737&notif_id=1542940493321157&notif_t=comment_mention

[Jk19]

I've heard Overton is gonna be there so may have some competition.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Bloomer must b cherry picking.
This is same race davenport raced and people said he was cherry picking cuz it was a crate race.

[ImCryn2]

So we create a new class (crates) when the top class gets too expensive, then pay $20,000 to win which attracts the big names. Makes sense. JMO

[Illtsate32]

Sue him for copyright infringement Dirt Fan. Im tired of all these people going around stealing everyones thunder lol..jk DF I remember when you posted it...

[Kwd1253]

So we create a new class (crates) when the top class gets too expensive, then pay $20,000 to win which attracts the big names. Makes sense. JMO

Yeah I think its bs myself. If Swainsboro any balls they wouldn't let guys like jd, Scott, Bronson, Rambo, Hudson, Ross, Ferguson and ect race the event. Anyone raced more than 10 super late race they shouldnot be allowed to race any big money crate event.

[Illtsate32]

Yeah I think its bs myself. If Swainsboro any balls they wouldn't let guys like jd, Scott, Bronson, Rambo, Hudson, Ross, Ferguson and ect race the event. Anyone raced more than 10 super late race they shouldnot be allowed to race any big money crate event.

At the very least if you have ever won a Regional or Touring event...

[Mason87]

It's not about the health of the sport for these promoters it's about profit and those names coming are sure gonna add some more butts in the stands.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

There used to be a big paying crate race that you had to run a certain amount of crate races to be qualified to run the big show I cant remember where it was but I think it wasnt long ago. I remember jd running it.

[ImCryn2]

It's not about the health of the sport for these promoters it's about profit and those names coming are sure gonna add some more butts in the stands.

I understand why the promoters want the big names there and I understand why the big name are wanting to race these races. Maybe the $20,000 to win is about right for the crates and the super purses are lacking, but when there are many super races that pay less then $10,000 to win I think paying a crate class $20,000 defeats the purpose of the class. It's not the drivers fault, nor the promoters IMO, this is where the sanctioning body is needed to keep the class what it was intended to be, less expensive.
We all know that the racers are their own enemy when it comes to the rising costs of racing. These big name guys are leading the way, even though I don't think it's their intent to do so.

[MI Dirt Fan]

This is a non touring sanctioned event so who cares who shows up.

[ImCryn2]

This is a non touring sanctioned event so who cares who shows up.

I could care less who shows up TBH, but don't complain about the costs of racing when this stuff happens. I have no problem with Scott and other guys running this race, as long as they are allowed to, they should IMO. Big purses to control costs is not effective was my point.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Running a crate might be saving money compared to open motor until you bolt on after market light weight low drag/friction parts

[fastford]

Running a crate might be saving money compared to open motor until you bolt on after market light weight low drag/friction parts

yep , now if they made them run non adjustable oil shocks , no bumps or stacks or 2 stage , and one shock per wheel and one tire with no grooving or sipping , except for aero advantage , i wouldn't care who showed up ,

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Yeah I think its bs myself. If Swainsboro any balls they wouldn't let guys like jd, Scott, Bronson, Rambo, Hudson, Ross, Ferguson and ect race the event. Anyone raced more than 10 super late race they shouldnot be allowed to race any big money crate event.Most definitely.

I think it’s the one Fastrack World Championship Race that only allowed strictly crate guys. Think the $5k one.

[dirt crow]

I’m like alot of you. We in the minority probably on this but who cares. It ain’t right for big time drivers to run lower class events. If I was a promoter, it’s my track, my event, no super driver that’s won a 10k super event in the last 2 years would be allowed to race a crate, 604, limited, whatever. ....and if I was a small time driver and made the event and getting lapped, I’d stick it in that big time super driver if he was lapping me to help out a fellow small time crate driver win.

[4Barrel]

What unfair advantage does Bloomquist have in this race? Doesnhe get a different, better motor than the other teams? Does he get to use shocks that they're not allowed to use? Does he get a weight break?

[chupp n bloomer fan]

What unfair advantage does Bloomquist have in this race? Doesnhe get a different, better motor than the other teams? Does he get to use shocks that they're not allowed to use? Does he get a weight break?No. But his experience is something you don’t ignore. It’s not just him, any top late model to me shouldn’t be allowed. If you’ve won a series race paying say $10k in the last year from the date of the race, you cannot race. I’d even put them limits on when Bloomer etc crosses over into modified racing.

[dirty bert]

Everybody's hollering bout Scott is it ok Lanigan running Nesmith at magnolia

[4Barrel]

I don't have a problem with it. Steel sharpens steel. These crate teams have an opportunity to race against and learn from the greatest of all time. Maybe they can tuck in behind him and watch his line. See what they can do differently to keep up. It provides them a chance to beat Scott Bloomquist and put a giant feather in their hat. If I were a competitive crate team, I'd jump at the chance and also be offended that some of you aren't giving them a chance to win.

[MI Dirt Fan]

I think too many people are expecting him to win. Other than the win at the World Finals, he's really been sub par.

[Dlmfan123]

31 cars signed in

[dirt crow]

Everybody's hollering bout Scott is it ok Lanigan running Nesmith at magnolia

I made no mention of Scott in my post. I mean all of em.

[dch191]

Saying certain guys cant race a particular race because they are "too good" or "have too much money" or "too much experience" is the equivalent of handing out participation trophies. Its a crate race not a beginner/intermediate race. If the car is legal then thats all that matters. I think itd be fair if a series or sanction wanted to put a restriction on a big event and say you had to run X amount of races to race a particular event but thats not the case here.

[slmcrewchief99]

I've got an idea. Dump crate racing all together. Those that can't afford to go super then drop back to b-mods or street stocks. Those that can move up will only strengthen the super car counts.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Bloomers has fast time.

[Dlmfan123]

Disqualified for not running a fan

[ZERO25]

Bloomers has fast time.

Some on here don't understand how different the setups are for crates vs a super!

Bloomer has NO advantage, more like disadvantage since he rarely if at all runs one!

Pretty impressed myself with his fast time!

[nc mudcat]

Just wait til next year when Fastrak runs $50,000 to win a race.

[grt74]

Just wait til next year when Fastrak runs $50,000 to win a race.

yup, they'll all be there, the world for the crates, lol

[MI Dirt Fan]

Is that part of the world challenge series?

[MI Dirt Fan]

Just wait til next year when Fastrak runs $50,000 to win a race.

It's the same weekend as the Knoxville Nationals...

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Disqualified for not running a fan

Oh me oh my how can this be?

[MI Dirt Fan]

Even though it's an unsanctioned event it still falls under the track rules that you must run a fan. From what I've read it sounds like sometimes guys don't when qualifying though. It does give a few extra HP.

[ImCryn2]

Does this all mean that Scott has figured out his engine program for next year? :)

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Does this all mean that Scott has figured out his engine program for next year? :)Yes. They are consulting you since you’re so concerned.

[ImCryn2]

Don't be turning into a liberal buddy, it was a joke.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Don't be turning into a liberal buddy, it was a joke.I could be a whiny liberal or a whiny conservative, both are the same. And I was just being a smartbutt man, no biggie.

Still wondering why you wouldn’t make sure it’s legal to remove the fan before you do it. Now you’re starting deep in a stout crate super field.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

A true GOAT doesnt let this happen. They are on there game week in week out.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

A true GOAT doesnt let this happen. They are on there game week in week out.No one is perfect, but the fan incident, and his tardiness, I hope he fixes the circus.

[No_Weak_Links]

Every comment I've seen from other drivers says this was not cheating and should have been allowed. That it's pretty common in crate racing, especially when it's 30° outside. At least the race is 100 laps, so he will have plenty of time to make up for it.

[MI Dirt Fan]

No it's not. But it is listed under the track rules they were applying even though it's unsanctioned.

[Illtsate32]

Overton Bronson Bloomer top 3...

[MI Dirt Fan]

Lead all 100 laps.

$35k for Overton the last week or so.

[Mod Runner]

Please help, I need some questions answered. Where was this race held ? What kind of rule does the track have for a crate engine ? Can any crate engine be run from any manufacturer or is only one manufacture engine allowed ?

[fastford]

Please help, I need some questions answered. Where was this race held ? What kind of rule does the track have for a crate engine ? Can any crate engine be run from any manufacturer or is only one manufacture engine allowed ?

only GM gets there pockets padded in this situation im afraid........

[let-r-eat]

Where did all the big name crate racers finish?

[Hoosier]

WHO are all the big name crate racers? 4m is not the place to look for crate info. The NeSmith posts get no responses, and FasTrak doesn't even try.

[FASTRAKPR]

Not sure what we are not "even trying" as you said, but please me a little more specific with your question and we wil do our best.

In my opinion crate racing is one of the things that helped make super racing healthy again. I'm not sure as one person stated "dumping crates" is the answer anyway.

[Jking24]

Not sure what we are not "even trying" as you said, but please me a little more specific with your question and we wil do our best. In my opinion crate racing is one of the things that helped make super racing healthy again. I'm not sure as one person stated "dumping crates" is the answer anyway.No criticism here. Interested in your view how is it that you believe crates helped make super racing healthy again ?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

No criticism here. Interested in your view how is it that you believe crates helped make super racing healthy again ?

I was unaware it was healthy?

[rdcllk]

How can he say it's healthy?
When tracks don't run supers anymore
And the ones that does have less then half the fields then they did before

[tb1545]

Maybe bloomer was just testing this motor combination for the dome this weekend.

[FASTRAKPR]

I've been trying to use the reply with quote, but it won't allow me to do that so I'll do it this way.

Please help, I need some questions answered. Where was this race held ? What kind of rule does the track have for a crate engine ? Can any crate engine be run from any manufacturer or is only one manufacture engine allowed ?

Any series I've ever seen that tried to mix manufacturers has gone out of business or struggling terribly. The Ford is a 347 stroker and then they try and make the Chevrolet match it and they changed harmonic balancers, rocker arms, etc and it was a never ending battle. Had they made them "match" in HP and torque, I think it could have been done, but for some reason Ford had a good piece with the 351 they tested for a while but opted for the 347 stroker. Not to mention Ford was priced at $7300 from day 1.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Maybe bloomer was just testing this motor combination for the dome this weekend.

Maybe. Never know with him.

[fastford]

I've been trying to use the reply with quote, but it won't allow me to do that so I'll do it this way.

Please help, I need some questions answered. Where was this race held ? What kind of rule does the track have for a crate engine ? Can any crate engine be run from any manufacturer or is only one manufacture engine allowed ?

Any series I've ever seen that tried to mix manufacturers has gone out of business or struggling terribly. The Ford is a 347 stroker and then they try and make the Chevrolet match it and they changed harmonic balancers, rocker arms, etc and it was a never ending battle. Had they made them "match" in HP and torque, I think it could have been done, but for some reason Ford had a good piece with the 351 they tested for a while but opted for the 347 stroker. Not to mention Ford was priced at $7300 from day 1.

i call BS on this one fasttrack , robert gant was allowed to try one against a 604 and blistered them , so they said it had an unfair advantage because of weight , torque and blablabla , there are plenty of people that would pay the difference to run one , but the GM gold mine had to be protected...........

[DV8]

I can actually speak to the Ford experiment because I was running what was the stormpay series at the time. Robert Gant did win that night but I wouldn’t call it “blistered” because I ran second with a 602. Robert is a good driver and it was 5-6 car lengths but he probably counted for 2 of those. I remember because I got the win since it was an experiment. Late in the year however, when the first rebuilt 604 showed up we all got blistered, it would have beat the Ford easily. Granted this was way back when crates were a new thing and everything seemed equal. If rebuilds were not allowed I think they could have reached some type of equality between 602, 604 and Ford.

[fastford]

that is not the way i heard it , and my understanding was the last time he ran it was against 604,s , but either way , if what you say is true , and some didnt mind spending the extra money , which compared to a loaded 604 isnt that far off , then what was the problem with letting them run ? also i was thinking that first ford crate engine he ran was a 351 all steel sportsman engine which was more in line with the 602 . i think this is what you ran against , with to equal cars and drivers , i will put my money on the little aluminum headed 347 over the 604.......

[DV8]

You’re correct, I was unclear. Since it was the first year of stormpay at our track 602, 604 and what was a hobbie class all ran together. The hobbie cars had more power but were 3 link. Before the rebuilds 602 and 604 were very close, the 602 needed a little help but depending on the track conditions I could beat them. I ended up winning the championship but mostly because I showed up every week. After rebuilds, you just can’t get the same power margin out of a 602. That is why we have a 602 class now. I probably would have went with a Ford given a choice, just because the family drove Fords.

[fastford]

my father and uncle campaigned a super stack ford drag car back in early 60,s , i am still loyal to the ole blue oval , how ever i make most of my living off them old chevy,s , I have not heard from gant lately , im gone try and look him up over the winter. BTW DV8 , you coming to the ice bowl?

[DV8]

We normally go watch the last night, it is hard to string enough time together to run the multi day shows now. Really enjoy running TST though. Do you guys run the ice bowl every year?

[fastford]

pretty much , dont know for sure what were taking yet , i,m working with my kids little cars right now , hope to have a good 2019 but we got a lot of work to do........

[slingshot00]

I heard the motor in the first place car was over 3 years old and hadn’t ever been into meaning it was strait out of the box

[fastford]

thats the way its suppose to be , strait out the box , right ?

[old17ford]

thats the way its suppose to be , strait out the box , right ?

Which one of the 347 Ford. Motors should not the best against the 604 ?

[fastford]

the one gant had , had the X heads on it , the numbers were not that much different than the 604 , a little smoother low end and a little lighter.....

[Highwayman]

the one gant had , had the X heads on it , the numbers were not that much different than the 604 , a little smoother low end and a little lighter.....

Funny how things work, probably had Gant run 10th with the Ford they'd have given the green light, but because it won it must not be allowed. Same thing when SAS allowed in the CT525 with spoiler & weight break, had it not won any races nothing would've been said, but because a HOF driver won a few races they promptly changed the rules to make it irrelevant. Its as if they think only certain things should be allowed to win. Like an unlimited super should always win, but if under certain conditions a CT525 wins it must be done away with. So they'll consider or allow other engine packages but they aren't allowed to win. I hate crate for this very reason, its no different than having a single political party telling everyone how they should live. This new shock thing only proves this point further. Everyone must all be exactly equal, we're all the same. BS