Keyser Bonus

[Illtsate32]

Since Bobby has bagged the first two, if he can get to 4-5 wins raises the question, would he go through the pits the last night and make deals with Bloomer or Overton, or the few guys that could win? I mean if he told Bloomer or Overton, if they would work with him for say 30-50 grand piece of the bonus? Yes its a competition but is working together to bring home a lot of coin out of the realm of possibility?

[MI Dirt Fan]

Omfg..........

[Pennsboro23]

Are you serious? Your posts just keep getting worse.

[Illtsate32]

Why the negativity? Why is that a bad post Penn enlighten me. It goes for anybody if they can get in the situation.. yes im dead serious all the talk about how expensive the sport is why would it be ridiculous to entertain that thought? If I asked about it but named any other driver would it be ok then? You guys really blow me with these reactions lol...

[TackyTracker]

pretty sure the driver's that could spoil that would tell him to get back to his pit and win it fair & square

[pierceFAN]

Are you serious? Your posts just keep getting worse.

Its not crazy thinking...although im not saying its right...but some of us old timers remember something similar several years ago...not 100% sure but cedar lake comes to mind...and possibly one of the mcdowells...I think shane...so stuff like that DOES happen unfortunately

[Illtsate32]

All hypothetical of course, but def not ridiculous to think about, I know id have to think about letting him by for 40-50 grand instead of a cowboy hat and a trophy...

[Pennsboro23]

Why the negativity? Why is that a bad post Penn enlighten me. It goes for anybody if they can get in the situation.. yes im dead serious all the talk about how expensive the sport is why would it be ridiculous to entertain that thought? If I asked about it but named any other driver would it be ok then? You guys really blow me with these reactions lol...


If any driver ever did that, I would never respect them. That’s as bad as steroids in baseball.

[thexfactor0210]

Didnt't Rick Eckert do this for a big bonus on the UDTRA Tour in the early 2000's???

[golddirt]

That’s not a ridiculous post at all I have seen it done at local tracks when the bounty has been put out on a driver

[Pennsboro23]

I guess some people just aren’t competitive.

[billetbirdcage]

It happens way more then you'd think. I seen deals done several times over the years. It's definitely not that far fetched.

[billetbirdcage]

On a side note: the bonus is an insurance policy paid by keyser, It wouldn't surprise me if there is a clause in there for unethical altering of the finish. Not sure how the insurance company would ever prove it, but I could see them trying to fight it if it looked really obvious.

[dirtluver]

LOL...Why would he do that? He's got chance to pocket all the money without help. And who would he ask? There's 15 guys that can stop him. Not sure he can get all the cars to go for a deal. I don't think bobby will even think of making a deal.

[dirt33]

Didnt't Rick Eckert do this for a big bonus on the UDTRA Tour in the early 2000's???

Somethin' about Cedar Lake and lights on haulers coming on/off at certain times?

[RaceEngineer]

LOL...Why would he do that? He's got chance to pocket all the money without help. And who would he ask? There's 15 guys that can stop him. Not sure he can get all the cars to go for a deal. I don't think bobby will even think of making a deal.He really only has about 5 guys to worry about.

[Dlmfan123]

If any of u follow supercross/motocross somthing like this happened at the monster energy cup this year. Joey Savatgy let Eli Tomac go by to win a million bucks

[klemmabyna]

Didnt't Rick Eckert do this for a big bonus on the UDTRA Tour in the early 2000's???


Somethin' about Cedar Lake and lights on haulers coming on/off at certain times?

I know nothing except what I saw on the video. race may have been on speed channel back then. late race restart. a flawless until that point McDowell "slipped in turn 1 oil" on a late race restart on a locked down track. Eckert claimed the bonus.

if those two did play the game, I certainly wouldn't be surprised by anyone else. including a sponsor holding an insurance policy.

still lots of hard racing before that opportunity presents itself though.

JMO

[WildBill32]

I know for a fact that it does happen. I think that Bobbys way to young to even think about that. But, his Dad on the other hand.... Might give it a thought...Lol...

[golddirt]

Somethin' about Cedar Lake and lights on haulers coming on/off at certain times?

That was the dtwc in Kentucky

[MI Dirt Fan]

He really only has about 5 guys to worry about.
Says there is about 45 cars there. If 40 other guys dont think they can win why did they spend all the money to go?

[Tweeter5577]

Maybe he could make a deal, but he's a spoiled brat in most peoples opinion. None of the old guys will give him the time of day. He didn't earn the drivers respect, no matter how you fans wanna spin it. Hes capable of winning the bonus on his own. JMO

[Barbecueboy]

Only a posse would do that......if he is that great and that sure of himself as a winner he wouldn't even give it a thought.

[TerryM]

It’s been done before — more than once that I personally know about. So it’s a legitimate question and scenario. The silly part is suggesting the Pierces might do something like that. There’s no chance. Kind of stupid to even put this on a public forum. But it’s 4m, so I’m not the least bit surprised.

[smooth32]

Reverse thinking, say Pierce wins 3 more, do some drivers draw straws to take him out? Like Tin Cup, nobody will remember who won in 5 years but everyone would remember who dumped Pierce stopping the bonus. Just joking of course please dont beat me, I'm seriously joking

[ImCryn2]

pretty sure the driver's that could spoil that would tell him to get back to his pit and win it fair & square

I'm not sure how the arrangement could ever be worked out. Too many guys racing that are capable of winning, by the time you paid them all to lay down, the bonus money would be spent. BUT I don't think there's a driver out there that would turn down a deal if the money was right.

[ImCryn2]

Reverse thinking, say Pierce wins 3 more, do some drivers draw straws to take him out? Like Tin Cup, nobody will remember who won in 5 years but everyone would remember who dumped Pierce stopping the bonus. Just joking of course please dont beat me, I'm seriously joking

I think there have been enough rumors about the track doing things intentionally to stop drivers from getting the bonus (true or not) that the drivers are prolly wanting to see someone win it.

[TackyTracker]

I still think Sheppard and Overton get wins before the week is out.... I hope Bobby win all of them but a lot of good cars out there to say otherwise

[WisWildManFan]

Says there is about 45 cars there. If 40 other guys dont think they can win why did they spend all the money to go?I guarantee you not all the guys there think they are capable of winning

[RaceEngineer]

Says there is about 45 cars there. If 40 other guys dont think they can win why did they spend all the money to go?They went on vacation.

[MI Dirt Fan]

They went on vacation.

Sounds like something cagefaraday would say...

[RaceEngineer]

Sounds like something cagefaraday would say...Terry Phillips isn't going to win. And there are way less accomplished and equipped guys than him there. I think you must be clowning.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Somethin' about Cedar Lake and lights on haulers coming on/off at certain times?It was Bardstown, Ky. The Bluegrass Speedway, DTWC.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Since Bobby has bagged the first two, if he can get to 4-5 wins raises the question, would he go through the pits the last night and make deals with Bloomer or Overton, or the few guys that could win? I mean if he told Bloomer or Overton, if they would work with him for say 30-50 grand piece of the bonus? Yes its a competition but is working together to bring home a lot of coin out of the realm of possibility?I think he possibly can, and I don’t think what you said is crazy. Do I think most would agree to do it, no. But it isn’t a bad idea.

You would just have to be careful at how obvious you made it.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

I didn’t think Bobby would be this strong either this early, but he is. Must be that Wally World special XR1. I mean they aren’t really good cars, them or Longhorns. Just sheep if you buy them.(Yes sarcasm)

[klemmabyna]

Didnt't Rick Eckert do this for a big bonus on the UDTRA Tour in the early 2000's???

ECKERT EARNS RICHEST PAYDAY IN UDTRA HISTORY
NEW RICHMOND, WI - Rick Eckert of York, PA earned the richest one-day payoff in the history of the United Dirt Track Racing Association Pro DirtCar Series by winning the USA Nationals Sunday afternoon at Cedar Lake Speedway and pocketing the top prize of $141,000 driving the Cameron Car Corner/Raye Vest Rocket/Cornett Taurus.

Eckert won the $100,000 Great Northern Challenge Bonus money for winning three of the five race series, $40,000 for the USA Nationals top prize, and a $1,000 Bonus from Muddslinger Magazine. The Defending UDTRA Champion also won the Masters 75 at Cedar Lake Speedway on June 22, and the GNC event in Denison, IA on June 25.

"I'm really glad they decided to reschedule that rainout show of the Great Northern Challenge here for the USA Nationals," Eckert said. "I got into the running for the bonus late in the game after winning the Masters and then winning in Denison, Iowa a few days later."

Eckert made the winning pass on lap 93 of the 100-lap race when 1999 UDTRA Champion Dale McDowell of Rossville, GA slipped in oil after a restart in turn two, which opened the door for Eckert, who also slipped in the same oil a couple of laps later, but held on for the win.

"I saw all of that oil in turns one and two during the caution period, and just kind of looked for all of the clean dirt I could find down on the bottom," Eckert said. "When Dale slipped up in turn two, I tried to get as far to the inside as I could to keep from hitting him. Then a couple of laps later, I slipped in the same spot as Dale did, and I was lucky he didn't get back by me."

McDowell came home in the second spot driving the Larry Shaw Race Cars Rocket/Custom Grand Prix, and looked to be on his way to winning his second straight USA Nationals. McDowell had a 1/2-straightaway lead over Eckert before the debris and oil slick caution flag on lap 93.

"We didn't get the oil slick worked in as well as I would have liked, and I just slipped up in turn two," McDowell said. "A couple of laps later, Rick slipped in the oil, but I couldn't take advantage of it."
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After a Saturday night rainout that saw three inches of rain in the area, the Bob Cook-led Cedar Lake Speedway track crew had the racing surface ready to hot lap by 12 noon on Sunday. Cook and his crew even worked the track before the main event to give the fans a better show.

Under cloudy skies, the field took the green flag, but polesitter Brent Larson of Rosemont, MN was ticketed with jumping the start in his OCI Mastersbilt/Pro Power Monte Carlo. Larson was penalized one row for the restart, and that put Scott Bloomquist of Mooresburg, TN on the pole along side Eckert.

Bloomquist put his Miller Brothers Coal Warrior/Custom Taurus on the point after the restart, followed by McDowell, Eckert, Randle Chupp of Mooresville, NC, and Larson. On lap two, Darren Miller of Chadwick, IL moved his NAPA Auto Parts Mastersbilt/Pro Power Monte Carlo past Larson and into the fifth spot. Francis passed Larson on lap four to take the sixth spot.

Bloomquist and McDowell were working lapped traffic by lap seven, and McDowell began looking inside Bloomquist to challenge for the lead on lap 13. Eckert moved up to challenge McDowell for second spot in lapped traffic on lap 16. Eckert drove around the outside of McDowell coming off the fourth turn to take the position.

The preferred groove early in the race was around the top, but the cushion was starting to wear thin up against the wall by lap 20. Eckert closed up on Bloomquist and was looking to the inside as they entered turn three on lap 23.

Eckert drove off the bottom of the fourth turn, made contact with Bloomquist, but took the lead coming down the frontstretch. Bloomquist tried to throw a slider on Eckert getting into turn one, but couldn't make the move work.

Chupp brought out the first of five caution flags on lap 24 when he jumped the thin cushion in turn one, and slammed the wall, putting his Biscotti's Restaurant and Winery/Park Ohio Rocket/Draime Grand Prix up on its side. This set up a double-file restart in front of the SPEED Channel cameras.

McDowell went around the outside of Bloomquist to take the second spot on the restart, and brought Francis with him from the fifth spot. Billy Ogle Jr. of Knoxville, TN stalled his Calhoun's Restaurant GRT/Clements Monte Carlo on the frontstretch for the next caution on lap 26, and Bloomquist gave up the fourth spot to pit for tires.

The double-file restart saw Francis race around the outside of McDowell for the second spot, and Schlieper climbed from fifth to fourth. The field stayed green for three more laps until Jimmy Mars of Elk Mound, WI took a wild ride in turn one.

Mars jumped the cushion in turn one, climbed up on top of the wall, and his Jimmy Mars Racing Mastersbilt/Pro Power Monte Carlo flew out of the ballpark on its side, and landed on all four wheels outside the race track. Mars was uninjured. During the caution period, the sun began to peek out from the cloud cover, and began to change the racing surface.

McDowell made a move on the lap 30 restart, and passed Francis for the second spot. One lap later McDowell was running the middle groove, looking to the inside of Eckert, and then passed him for the lead on lap 32. By lap 37, McDowell was pulling away from Eckert, who now being challenged by Francis for second.

It appeared that Eckert's chances for the $100,000 bonus were going out the window on lap 38 when Francis passed him for the second spot. Pearson spun in turn two on lap 39 to bring out a caution flag, and the field lined up for a double-file restart. Eckert made quick work on the restart to move around Francis for second, as just about every driver headed to the inside of the race track.

The next 30 laps saw the field run nose-to-tail in the bottom groove, as McDowell had worked out to a 1/2-straightaway lead over Eckert, Francis, Birkhofer, and Schlieper. McDowell caught Pearson and Bloomquist on lap 75, and chose to ride behind the last two cars on the lead lap. It looked like McDowell had the field covered until lap 93.

Bloomquist ran over a piece of debris in turn one, which ripped a hole in his oil pan. With smoke bellowing from behind his car, the contents of his oil pan covered the racing groove in turns one and two. After several runs by the field through the oil to try and work it in, UDTRA officials waived off the double-file restart, and went to a single file restart due to the track conditions.

McDowell led Eckert into the first turn, but coming off turn two, McDowell slipped up a car-width, and Eckert drove underneath McDowell to take the lead. On lap 95, Eckert also slipped in the oil at the same spot McDowell did, but Eckert was able to hang on for the history-making $141,000 payday, and his sixth win of the season.

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OFFICIAL RESULTS OF ROUND 30 AT CEDAR LAKE SPEEDWAY IN NEW RICHMOND, WI ON 8/4/02:

POS STRT CAR # DRIVER HOMETOWN CAR LAPS $ WON
1. 2 24 Rick Eckert York, PA Ford 100 $141,000
2. 4 17m Dale McDowell Rossville, GA Pont. 100 $15,050
3. 7 1 Steve Francis Ashland, KY Dodge 100 $8,000
4. 14 15b Brian Birkhofer Muscatine, IA Pont. 100 $6,000
5. 5 s9 Dan Schlieper Pewaukee, WI Chev. 100 $5,000
6. 15 1k John Anderson ® Omaha, NE Pont. 100 $4,000
7. 9 00 Freddy Smith Knoxville, TN Chev. 100 $3,500
8. 18 18 Shannon Babb Decatur, IL Chev. 100 $3,300
9. 12 12 Rick Aukland Zanesville, OH Pont. 100 $3,100
10. 10 1p Earl Pearson Jr. Jacksonville, FL Ford 100 $3,000
11. 11 27 Jerry Redetzke Eau Claire, WI Chev. 99 $2,900
12. 21 25 Kerry Hansen Spencer, WI Ford 98 $2,800
13. 24 T31 Shane Tankersley ® Morganton, GA Pont. 97 $2,850
14. 8 32d Darren Miller Chadwick, IL Chev. 92 $2,600
15. 3 0 Scott Bloomquist Mooresburg, TN Ford 91 $2,500
16. 22 10 Pete Parker Kaukauna, WI Pont. 73 $2,500
17. 20 h2 Duayne Hommel Newport, TN Chev. 57 $2,500
18. 1 8 Brent Larson Rosemont, MN Chev. 46 $2,600
19. 17 21 Billy Moyer Batesville, AR Ford 38 $2,500
20. 13 00k Randy Korte Highland, IL Pont. 34 $2,500
21. 19 28 Jimmy Mars Elk Mound, WI Chev. 31 $2,500
22. 23 201 Billy Ogle Jr. ® Knoxville, TN Chev. 25 $2,500
23. 6 114 Randle Chupp Mooresville, NC Pont. 23 $2,500
24. 16 7 Matt Miller Waterville, OH Pont. 0 $2,500

ENTRIES: 42
PROVISIONALS: Ogle (7) and Tankersley (10)
LEAD CHANGES: 3 Among 4 Drivers

[thexfactor0210]

Wow yeah that sure sounds fishy with the Cedar Lake story. I was at Bardstown for the DTWC when Marlar started up front and spun out in the oil. Weren't drivers dumping oil on the track? What was the full story behind all that if anyone knows???

[RaceEngineer]

Wow yeah that sure sounds fishy with the Cedar Lake story. I was at Bardstown for the DTWC when Marlar started up front and spun out in the oil. Weren't drivers dumping oil on the track? What was the full story behind all that if anyone knows???Drivers were dumping oil trying to make a second groove.

[Barbecueboy]

Reverse thinking, say Pierce wins 3 more, do some drivers draw straws to take him out? Like Tin Cup, nobody will remember who won in 5 years but everyone would remember who dumped Pierce stopping the bonus. Just joking of course please dont beat me, I'm seriously joking

I could certainly see this scenario play out before the original post would......just because of the history and the jealousy.

[rubberslingingmotorhead]

I know if Bobby would even think to try to pay people off to win the bonus. It would show how much of a coward he is and doesn't trust himself to get the job done. I know if I was another racer and he tried to pay me off it would give me more motivation to race him harder. If you think for one second that bloomer would take any money to let someone else win your guys are a bunch of clowns.

[RaceEngineer]

I know if Bobby would even think to try to pay people off to win the bonus. It would show how much of a coward he is and doesn't trust himself to get the job done. I know if I was another racer and he tried to pay me off it would give me more motivation to race him harder. If you think for one second that bloomer would take any money to let someone else win your guys are a bunch of clowns.Bloomer is a businessman.

[jog49]

Thread started by someone with far too much time on his/her hands!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Thread started by someone with far too much time on his/her hands!

No one here is curing cancer and it's a plausible scenario.

[ImCryn2]

Bloomer is a businessman.

exactly! At the end of the day, if 15th paid the most money that's where everyone would be fighting to finish. There's only certain plastic trophies that are priceless, even they are questionable without a check to go along with them.

[kipling]

I can see it now, Bobby has his deal in place. Gets to the lead only to have a flat tire with 2 to go. All the other cars slow down and wad each other up so they don't pass him. The race ends at 15 mph and the fans in the stands give him a standing ovation for "winning" the bonus.

[ImCryn2]

If you think for one second that bloomer would take any money to let someone else win your guys are a bunch of clowns.

If it was head to head for the top prize, then I would agree that no driver would go along with it, but if they have a chance to double the win money to finish one spot back, it would be foolish business to turn it down. The price may have to be negotiated, but you bet they all would do it.

It won't ever be proposed anyway, but is a fun topic to discuss.

[Illtsate32]

Thank you guys. If the stars aligned im sure it would only be discussed with a few drivers starting around the first few rows before the a main starts. And if the stars did align, I believe some talks would be had. To all the people virtue signaling on your moral high ground acting like its outrageous lmao you guys would prob turn your Mother in for a 100 bucks goh...

[klemmabyna]

a deal doesn't have to be in place. but if the opportunity were to present itself, a driver might be wise to let the bonus be won.

racers have incredible long term memories when it comes to paybacks, both bad and good.

[Dlmfan123]

a deal doesn't have to be in place. but if the opportunity were to present itself, a driver might be wise to let the bonus be won.racers have incredible long term memories when it comes to paybacks, both bad and good.What this guy said^. It’s not somthing u set up people just do it to be good people

[RaceEngineer]

If you give up $10k to let 32 get $250k, without a deal, you are a fool.

[Jim11h]

O'Neil and erb did summer Nat's deal to split 1st & 2nd at Oakshade because rained and track got heavy fast and O'Neil woulda had best shot to win pts. They were tied coming in, seen gonna be late show, agreed to split, packed up and headed home

[Highside Hustler25]

If you give up $10k to let 32 get $250k, without a deal, you are a fool.

No doubt.

I say their's not a chance in #@$$ it happens. Deal or no deal.

[TerryM]

I could certainly see this scenario play out before the original post would......just because of the history and the jealousy.
What is the history and jealousy? Could you explain for those of us out of the loop?