After 2 races, which drivers do you think will drop off of Lucas Tour ?

[TBSprintFan]

After 2 races, which drivers do you think will drop off of Lucas Tour by the end of Speedweeks?

I think

21jr Billy Moyer Jr.
and
2s Stormy Scott

[TUTY]

Stormy Scott needs to stick with USMTS. They have something like 46 races this year with all paying $5000 To Win or more. Also all USMTS cars with perfect attendance all year get over $10,000 guaranteed for the year which isn't much but it's something.

[dalemcfan]

Buckingham
Rettig
Moyer Jr
Stormy Scott

[Tireguy17]

Stormy has a bankroll behind him, it's going to be more about performance than money for him to decide to go back to modifieds. I think they are looking for a new challenge, competition and tracks and will stick with it.

[RaceEngineer]

Stormy Scott needs to stick with USMTS. They have something like 46 races this year with all paying $5000 To Win or more. Also all USMTS cars with perfect attendance all year get over $10,000 guaranteed for the year which isn't much but it's something.Stormy Scott doesn't have a need for $. His biggest worry is his crew chief wanting to race.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Moyer Jr has never committed to running the entire tour yet.

[RaceEngineer]

Moyer Jr has never committed to running the entire tour yet.And no way he does now.

[Highside Hustler25]

Points after just 2 races means absolutely nothing.

[kazual]

This conversation might be more telling after East Bay and Ocala. Stormy was particularly disappointing, shows that the chassis brand doesn’t automatically make you a winner. The whole Scott brother deal is interesting. Johnny had a career year in mods last year, and he quits. Johnny was mentioned as crew chief during than broadcasts more than once but I didn’t see him while Stormy’s car was in pit lane, which was frequent. This is a tough circuit to break in to, period!

[Josh Bayko]

I don’t think BMJ never really intended to run the full Lucas tour. I don’t think Buckingham did either.

But in all honesty, you woundn’t see any changes in talent on either tour until Speedweeks.

[TUTY]

Look I know Stormy has all the money backing. It doesn't matter, they have no clue and have had a ton of help. He'll finish 10th or so as soon as Speedweeks are over and there's only 24 cars entered. I wouldn't be surprised if Stormy and Johnny have 4 modifieds sitting in the shop ready to go. I'm sure they will run the Big USMTS shows when they can.

[huskerdirt]

Moyer Jr has never committed to running the entire tour yet.

And neither did the other so called rookies.

[zyoung25]

Buckingham made the show both nights. I dont see why he should drop off. A few of the other guys mentioned in here didn't pull that off. I'd say he is pleased to have done that. He's not committed to the full deal anyway

[thexfactor0210]

Moyer Jr wants to run a national tour every year but just cannot hang. Rettig will drop off soon I am sure as well.

[huskerdirt]

TBH, I think this conversation a little pre mature.

Brandon Overton— it was mentioned during the broadcast that he *might* stick with Lucas for awhile.

Ryan King and Buckingham are the highest in points among the so called rookies at this point. Last year Mason Ziegler was buried pretty deep after speedweeks and he ended up winning the RoY title.

[#FALSuperman]

2 races is a bit premature.
One thing is for sure, I believe this might just be the most fun, wide open points season ever for Lucas Tour. We could see the spoiler change cars several times amongst 4 or 5 guys.

[Dlmfan123]

Terbo has got a great start to his “rookie” year with the lucas series. But it did seem like bmj wanted to run lucas as long as everything was going well and that does not look like it’s woeking out for him. I do like the approach overton is taking to this year, if lucas is going well well give that a shot. If it’s not then we will go try the outlaws. I’f that doesn’t then we’ll just go run whatever. Just doesn’t want to push anything. But from your question I think it will be bmj and Buckingham.

[dirt crow]

Bloomer. L O L O L O L O L O L !!!!!

[Highside Hustler25]

Bloomer. L O L O L O L O L O L !!!!!

:eek:No, you just didn't...

[RaceEngineer]

Points after just 2 races means absolutely nothing.0/2 getting in the show digs a huge hole to try and get to town money land.

[NormP]

2 races isn't much to judge a season by, but if that's what we're going on then Jimmy O may want to head back to TN.

[RaceEngineer]

2 races isn't much to judge a season by, but if that's what we're going on then Jimmy O may want to head back to TN.A guy with speed AND provisionals is just fine. Apples and Oranges.

[MI Dirt Fan]

What nights at East Bay count for points?

[Dlmfan123]

Friday and Saturday

[Dlmfan123]

A guy with speed AND provisionals is just fine. Apples and Oranges.Satterlee was the only series provisional this weekend

[MI Dirt Fan]

So it really doesn't matter then how Overton runs at East Bay then to decide if they want to run Lucas or WoO if only Friday and Saturday count for points.

[Dlmfan123]

No but if they are struggling all week at east bay they have the opportunity to go and try somewhere else

[Dlmfan123]

They are not pushing anything tho. If they run a series they run a series if they don’t it’s no big deal

[RaceEngineer]

Satterlee was the only series provisional this weekendOwens has them, if needed. Guys like Jr Jr and Scott do not.

[huskerdirt]

So it really doesn't matter then how Overton runs at East Bay then to decide if they want to run Lucas or WoO if only Friday and Saturday count for points.

Actually it does.

If he runs like sh!t during the week. They’ll probably pack up and head for Screven. If he runs well, they’ll probably stick around.

[ZERO25]

Whats the over/under on Spencer.....

A. Dropping off roy tour, and
B. Not making a speedweek feature?

[huskerdirt]

Whats the over/under on Spencer.....

A. Dropping off roy tour, and
B. Not making a speedweek feature?

He’ll last till probably May. I believe he went all the way till firecracker last year.

He will back door into a provisional because he “declared” to run the series. But that’ll be the only feature he will make.

[dirtcrazy4u]

2 races. Wet track conditions for the better part of the weekend. Few, very few, took anything away from G.I.S. other than Shirley dropping a car off in W.V.. many looked fast for a couple laps then showed how easy it was to go backwards. I think the one's that impressed me was E.P.J. and young mr o'neal. The biggest disappointment I think was the dunn-Benson team. But, again new team, and as mentioned they weren't the only ones .

[MI Dirt Fan]

2 races. Wet track conditions for the better part of the weekend. Few, very few, took anything away from G.I.S. other than Shirley dropping a car off in W.V.. many looked fast for a couple laps then showed how easy it was to go backwards. I think the one's that impressed me was E.P.J. and young mr o'neal. The biggest disappointment I think was the dunn-Benson team. But, again new team, and as mentioned they weren't the only ones .

2 races in the same day at the same track and we're already writing guys off. lol

[TBSprintFan]

Moyer Jr wants to run a national tour every year but just cannot hang. Rettig will drop off soon I am sure as well.

Exactly, well said on Moyer Jr., even though he has good sponsorship, the talent to run either of the big 2 touring series is just not there.

[Dlmfan123]

Blake spencer didn’t attempt woo last year. Just a random traveler

[Zonks32x]

Exactly, well said on Moyer Jr., even though he has good sponsorship, the talent to run either of the big 2 touring series is just not there.

What is his track record at Golden Isles?
I'm not looking to debate your talent argument...just curious if he's had any success in the past at Golden Isles?
I wouldn't make any big decision after just 2 nights on a wet hammer-down racetrack.

[MI Dirt Fan]

He does have the Lucas schedule on his website up to the Clash at the Mag now.

[MI Dirt Fan]

2018
Bmain 4th
26th

2017
25th
25th

2016
18th
14th
16th

2015
22nd
17th
13th

[huskerdirt]

@DLMfan123

Try again. He entered every race through May.

https://blakespencer.com/events2018.html

[Zonks32x]

2018
Bmain 4th
26th

2017
25th
25th

2016
18th
14th
16th

2015
22nd
17th
13th

Thank you!!
My guess is BMJ jr. knew going in that GI hasn't been good to him.

Maybe Eastbay will be better for him and he'll get on a roll.

[MI Dirt Fan]

I didn't include 2014 but it was about the same. He did finish 4th or 5th in one.

[dalemcfan]

A year or two ago at GIS, BMJ had one of the features won and came up to lap Bloomquist and Bloomer slowed in front of him resulting in BMJ getting a hole in his radiator.

[NormP]

A guy with speed AND provisionals is just fine. Apples and Oranges.

Yes but the question was "After two races", not who has speed and provisionals. Apples and Oranges.

[Pennsboro23]

Billy Moyer jr.

[RaceEngineer]

Yes but the question was "After two races", not who has speed and provisionals. Apples and Oranges.You have to use some sort of data to make the decision after two races. Smh

[RaceEngineer]

2 races. Wet track conditions for the better part of the weekend. Few, very few, took anything away from G.I.S. other than Shirley dropping a car off in W.V.. many looked fast for a couple laps then showed how easy it was to go backwards. I think the one's that impressed me was E.P.J. and young mr o'neal. The biggest disappointment I think was the dunn-Benson team. But, again new team, and as mentioned they weren't the only ones .I thought DB was right where I expected. O'Neal has a fast car, but he has to limit mistakes. And he will.

[fastford]

as bad as i hate to say it , if the "O" show dont wake up from this "NIGHTMARE" , he may as well find another series or something , i know jimmy dont usually start of setting the world on fire , but this is getting ridiculous ........I am keeping the faith though........

[shaggy20]

Jimmy was fast at both races at Golden isles. Should have had top5 finished both nights. Cant finish good when. You get davenported to the wall and brake checked by powder power bloomquist.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Owens isn't dropping off. Not with Reece and Rhino AG as sponsors.

[fastford]

its not that he is dropping off , its that sh!ty luck , but as they say , racing..........

[NormP]

You have to use some sort of data to make the decision after two races. Smh

You sure do. You used speed and provisionals. I used finishing position.


It's silly to think someone would drop off the tour after two races. But that's the topic of discussion and the results speak for themselves.

[RaceEngineer]

You sure do. You used speed and provisionals. I used finishing position.It's silly to think someone would drop off the tour after two races. But that's the topic of discussion and the results speak for themselves.Finishing position is often quite arbitrary. Especially in a small sample. It's easier to see who has a balanced car that will consistently be good.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Buckingham

[huskerdirt]

Ironically. Moyer Jr is 13th in standings. One spot out of the tow money with 2 guys ahead not running the full tour.