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TUTY
02-17-2019, 09:52 AM
Seems WOO has a good thing going using the best 2 nights out of 4 in Volusia. Top 6 are within 26 points of each other. 225 points separate LUCAS from 6th to 1st, but I know points are calculated a bit different. Jimmy Owens in 10th and 320 points behind, not good. 10th place for WOO is rookie Kyle Hardy only 70 points off the leader.

bullring
02-17-2019, 10:50 AM
If East Bay did that it wouldn't definitely change things up for the early week shows. Plus like you say it shouldnt put guys in a deep hole to start the points hunt.

PushinTheLimit
02-17-2019, 11:39 AM
WoO points and Lucas points are completely different formats.

huskerdirt
02-17-2019, 12:52 PM
Seems WOO has a good thing going using the best 2 nights out of 4 in Volusia. Top 6 are within 26 points of each other. 225 points separate LUCAS from 6th to 1st, but I know points are calculated a bit different. Jimmy Owens in 10th and 320 points behind, not good. 10th place for WOO is rookie Kyle Hardy only 70 points off the leader.

Lol.

All it takes is two bad races and that 320 point margin down to nothing.

Zonks32x
02-17-2019, 01:22 PM
Lol.

All it takes is two bad races and that 320 point margin down to nothing.

Very true...but from 10th place a guy needs more than a couple drivers to have 2 bad nights. I think Owens will be just fine.

I think the confusion is b/c of how different the points format is in both series.

Husker is correct...based on how they calculate points, a 320 point lead in Lucas is nowhere near as big of a gap as a 70 point lead on WoO.

Snake X3
02-17-2019, 02:12 PM
The easiest way to describe the difference between Lucas and WoO points is that Lucas uses a system that rewards winning and finishing up front. WoO's system is SIMILAR to NA$$CRAP's point per position system. In other words, it's much easier to points race your way to a championship on the WoO tour since it rewards consistency.

Maybe I'll try to give a comparative breakdown of the two systems. They are about as different as possible. No system is better than the other, but they do have very different ways of winning a title.

Snake X3
02-17-2019, 02:40 PM
Okay, what I did here was multiply the WoO points table by 1.33 so that both series gave out 200 pts for winning a race. There are other ways to earn points, like for fast time qualifying but just straight up point systems work like this....

Lucas WoO
1 - 200 - - - 200
2 - 180 - - - 194
3 - 170 - - - 192
4 - 160 - - - 189
5 - 155 - - - 186
6 - 150 - - - 184
7 - 145 - - - 181
8 - 140 - - - 178
9 - 135 - - - 176
10 - 130 - - - 173
11 - 125 - - - 170
12 - 120 - - - 168
13 - 115 - - - 165
14 - 110 - - - 162
15 - 105 - - - 160
16 - 100 - - - 157
17 - 95 - - - 154
18 - 90 - - - 152
19 - 85 - - - 149
20 - 80 - - - 146
21 - 75 - - - 144
22 - 75 - - - 141
23 - 75 - - - 138
24 - 75 - - - 136
25 - 75 - - - 133
26 - 70 - - - 130


So as you can see, if Kyle Hardy was 70 points back on the Lucas tour, that is the difference between finishing 1st and finishing 10th. On the WoO tour that would be the difference between finishing 1st and finishing 26th. Of course Hardy would acutally be 91 points behind (70*1.3) on this scale, which like Owens, is more than a full race behind the leader AND with a much harder road to make up that difference.

Owens being 300 points behind on the Lucas tour isn't even something you can calculate like that. Suffice to say, he's really far back. But Bloomer was what? 400 points behind after Speedweeks and he got within 100 at one point I think, so it is doable because Lucas points give a greater reward for winning.

NormP
02-17-2019, 03:08 PM
Interesting breakdown Snake. I think there's more competitive drivers on the WoO this year than years past when Lucas was obviously tougher, but the way WoO scores points isn't my cup of tea.

Snake X3
02-17-2019, 04:12 PM
Interesting breakdown Snake. I think there's more competitive drivers on the WoO this year than years past when Lucas was obviously tougher, but the way WoO scores points isn't my cup of tea.

I think both tours combined are weaker overall since they lost Pierce, Marlar, Eckert, Saterlee and Zeigler just for starters.