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ZERO25
02-27-2019, 08:45 PM
According to Dod, Bloomer has won a 5 figure winners check for 30 straight years! Don Oneal is the next closest at 19!

Impressive, I don't care who you are!

dirt crow
02-27-2019, 09:37 PM
Well I’ll sleep better tonight.

TMaCiLLiNi39
02-27-2019, 10:47 PM
Wow.... Bloomquist doesn’t win in GA or FL and his exotics are relagated to bringing up facts that really don’t mean crap... lol

Scott’s the Goat... there’s no need to stroke that Old D1ck... GOAT sounds the same before and after

Zonks32x
02-27-2019, 11:01 PM
Here's a stat for you...

Billy Moyer and myself have a combined 836 late model feature wins.

chupp n bloomer fan
02-28-2019, 03:45 AM
According to Dod, Bloomer has won a 5 figure winners check for 30 straight years! Don Oneal is the next closest at 19!

Impressive, I don't care who you are!Look at you, poking the hornets nest, snowflake storm, whatever you wanna call it. Talk about whoever they like and it’s all good, much praise indeed, but oh no, don’t talk about that devil in the zero car.

chupp n bloomer fan
02-28-2019, 03:46 AM
Here's a stat for you...

Billy Moyer and myself have a combined 836 late model feature wins.Buck Simmons had a 1,000.

EvelB7
02-28-2019, 04:30 AM
Always heard Roger Dolan is well over 1,000 wins as well (thought it was cool Benny Parson's talked about it when he was doing TV). 30 years of winning at least one 'big money' race is something as well..

dirtcrazy4u
02-28-2019, 05:19 AM
Going back to 1989, there could not have been to many races with a winner's take in the 5 figures.

TerryM
02-28-2019, 06:03 AM
Going back to 1989, there could not have been to many races with a winner's take in the 5 figures.
He won the World 100 in '88 and '90, so that would've taken care of two of the first three years of this streak. Then he started running the HAT series in '93. He only had to win one of the higher paying series races each year since then to continue the streak, and that would be easy for someone of his caliber. The most impressive part about Scott's career, IMO, is the longevity and consistency. I don't think he's the best driver I've ever seen, but no one is better at setting up the car, managing tires, etc., and he's definitely #1 in accomplishments, by a long shot. While some guys faded, by either choice or circumstance (Moran choosing family over racing, Moyer's back issues, etc), Scott just keeps on rolling. He's like the Pete Rose of DLM racing. Pete was never the greatest hitter at any time in his career, but he's the Hit King, because he has the most career hits and no one will ever surpass him. Scott was obviously the best in the business at times, but I still see him in a similar light at Rose. And that's a big compliment.

Thedoctor
02-28-2019, 07:01 AM
Interesting stat. Thanks for sharing. Man he’s been consistent and has been on top of all the changes to a dirt late model for 30 + years.

_LatemodelFan_
02-28-2019, 07:55 AM
Buck Simmons had a 1,000. So did Mike Duvall

BloomerHarvickFan
02-28-2019, 07:57 AM
He won the World 100 in '88 and '90, so that would've taken care of two of the first three years of this streak. Then he started running the HAT series in '93. He only had to win one of the higher paying series races each year since then to continue the streak, and that would be easy for someone of his caliber. The most impressive part about Scott's career, IMO, is the longevity and consistency. I don't think he's the best driver I've ever seen, but no one is better at setting up the car, managing tires, etc., and he's definitely #1 in accomplishments, by a long shot. While some guys faded, by either choice or circumstance (Moran choosing family over racing, Moyer's back issues, etc), Scott just keeps on rolling. He's like the Pete Rose of DLM racing. Pete was never the greatest hitter at any time in his career, but he's the Hit King, because he has the most career hits and no one will ever surpass him. Scott was obviously the best in the business at times, but I still see him in a similar light at Rose. And that's a big compliment.


1989 Pittsburgher. I think it would have been 10k or more
1991, Jackson 100 paid 12k
1992 forward it seems a big portion of STARS and HAT races paid 10k plus.

chupp n bloomer fan
02-28-2019, 08:20 AM
He won the World 100 in '88 and '90, so that would've taken care of two of the first three years of this streak. Then he started running the HAT series in '93. He only had to win one of the higher paying series races each year since then to continue the streak, and that would be easy for someone of his caliber. The most impressive part about Scott's career, IMO, is the longevity and consistency. I don't think he's the best driver I've ever seen, but no one is better at setting up the car, managing tires, etc., and he's definitely #1 in accomplishments, by a long shot. While some guys faded, by either choice or circumstance (Moran choosing family over racing, Moyer's back issues, etc), Scott just keeps on rolling. He's like the Pete Rose of DLM racing. Pete was never the greatest hitter at any time in his career, but he's the Hit King, because he has the most career hits and no one will ever surpass him. Scott was obviously the best in the business at times, but I still see him in a similar light at Rose. And that's a big compliment.Good post, yes I said it.

FastEd95
02-28-2019, 12:49 PM
Always heard Roger Dolan is well over 1,000 wins as well (thought it was cool Benny Parson's talked about it when he was doing TV). 30 years of winning at least one 'big money' race is something as well.. I was a big Roger Dolan fan but he was nowhere near 1000 feature wins - I would say 350-400. His son Ryan has got a ton of wins in his long career and is still going strong.

Clayton_Wetter
02-28-2019, 04:02 PM
The ones that won a thousand (if you say so) races are the ones that spent the 60's and 70's at their local tracks, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, winning $300 dollar features against the locals before the racing series were created.

EvelB7
02-28-2019, 04:09 PM
Again, the part I always thought was cool was when they talked about Dolan and his wins on TV (they were comparing Trickle's wins back when he was driving and Parson's brought up Dolan). Seems far fetched so I understand, I will say I watched Dolan win 3 nights a week all summer long one year in the Precision Performance car. He was one of the smoothest drivers you would see and I always tried to get his advice when I started driving. Great person and I hope he is doing well.

rdcllk
02-28-2019, 04:18 PM
When you compare to the really old guys. You have to remember. A lot of them raced way more races a week
Some talk about racing 4 to 6 nights a week
Now days. It's hard for local racers to find two tracks a week they can run at

TBSprintFan
03-01-2019, 03:09 AM
The ones that won a thousand (if you say so) races are the ones that spent the 60's and 70's at their local tracks, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, winning $300 dollar features against the locals before the racing series were created.

That $300 back then was worth more than $5 to $10 thousand now a days . when you compare the costs of cars, parts, haulers, etc. Back then drivers actually made money after expenses, now they would go bankrupt pretty fast if it wasn't for rich car owners and big sponsors.

TerryM
03-01-2019, 05:47 AM
Before anyone starts belittling drivers who won a lot of races locally in the 60's or 70's, you might want to do some research to see who they were racing against every week. Guys didn't travel nearly as much back then, for various reasons, so many of them were running against a handful of future Hall of Famers every time they pulled through the gates "locally". My local tracks growing up were NKY/Florence, Richmond, Clay City, Ponderosa, Frankfort, etc. They might be running for "only" $500 to win, but you can bet every time we went, there was Pat Patrick, Billy Teegarden, Fats Coffey, Butterball Wooldridge, Floyd Gilbert, etc. I could easily name 10 more, and they all have one thing in common -- they are Hall Of Fame inductees. They might not all be at the same track on the same night, but wherever you went in central of northern Kentucky, you would usually have to beat some of these guys to take home the win. It probably wasn't much different in some other states. If you won 1000 races, or 800 races, or whatever, you'd have to be pretty slick to dodge all the other top local guys every night.

ZERO25
03-01-2019, 09:28 AM
QUOTE:Look at you, poking the hornets nest, snowflake storm, whatever you wanna call it. Talk about whoever they like and it’s all good, much praise indeed, but oh no, don’t talk about that devil in the zero car.

Yep, post a FACT from our main news supplier, DoD, and the haters come out like .....the folks in the hood at the FREE food line!

btw.....didn't see that fruit picker guy on the list....hmmmmm! :)

RaceEngineer
03-01-2019, 09:32 AM
Before anyone starts belittling drivers who won a lot of races locally in the 60's or 70's, you might want to do some research to see who they were racing against every week. Guys didn't travel nearly as much back then, for various reasons, so many of them were running against a handful of future Hall of Famers every time they pulled through the gates "locally". My local tracks growing up were NKY/Florence, Richmond, Clay City, Ponderosa, Frankfort, etc. They might be running for "only" $500 to win, but you can bet every time we went, there was Pat Patrick, Billy Teegarden, Fats Coffey, Butterball Wooldridge, Floyd Gilbert, etc. I could easily name 10 more, and they all have one thing in common -- they are Hall Of Fame inductees. They might not all be at the same track on the same night, but wherever you went in central of northern Kentucky, you would usually have to beat some of these guys to take home the win. It probably wasn't much different in some other states. If you won 1000 races, or 800 races, or whatever, you'd have to be pretty slick to dodge all the other top local guys every night.Yes, everyone was a local. There is a huge bias toward that part of the country as far as HoF inclusion, but your point is valid.

ZERO25
03-01-2019, 09:41 AM
North Floridas Wayne "Sugar Bear" Shugart, when asked how many features he had won, said he stopped counting at 1200!

FastEd95
03-01-2019, 12:54 PM
Again, the part I always thought was cool was when they talked about Dolan and his wins on TV (they were comparing Trickle's wins back when he was driving and Parson's brought up Dolan). Seems far fetched so I understand, I will say I watched Dolan win 3 nights a week all summer long one year in the Precision Performance car. He was one of the smoothest drivers you would see and I always tried to get his advice when I started driving. Great person and I hope he is doing well. The Dolan's are good people for sure. I still see Roger and his wife (who never seems to age) several times each racing season - I'm not sure if they ever miss one of Ryan's races. Roger used to film all of his son's races, not sure if he still does.

TBSprintFan
03-01-2019, 01:53 PM
Before anyone starts belittling drivers who won a lot of races locally in the 60's or 70's, you might want to do some research to see who they were racing against every week. Guys didn't travel nearly as much back then, for various reasons, so many of them were running against a handful of future Hall of Famers every time they pulled through the gates "locally". My local tracks growing up were NKY/Florence, Richmond, Clay City, Ponderosa, Frankfort, etc. They might be running for "only" $500 to win, but you can bet every time we went, there was Pat Patrick, Billy Teegarden, Fats Coffey, Butterball Wooldridge, Floyd Gilbert, etc. I could easily name 10 more, and they all have one thing in common -- they are Hall Of Fame inductees. They might not all be at the same track on the same night, but wherever you went in central of northern Kentucky, you would usually have to beat some of these guys to take home the win. It probably wasn't much different in some other states. If you won 1000 races, or 800 races, or whatever, you'd have to be pretty slick to dodge all the other top local guys every night.

That's why to call a driver or any athlete a GOAT is ridiculous. Everything changes, back in the old days you didn't need touring series because you were racing against tough competition every time you went to a race. Plus there were way more drivers back then also and a lot of records/ results were not kept.

rdcllk
03-01-2019, 02:50 PM
Good point about records not being kept. A lot of it is a driver saying he won x amount of races. And nobody really knows for sure

Clayton_Wetter
03-01-2019, 03:16 PM
Before anyone starts belittling drivers who won a lot of races locally in the 60's or 70's, you might want to do some research to see who they were racing against every week. Guys didn't travel nearly as much back then, for various reasons, so many of them were running against a handful of future Hall of Famers every time they pulled through the gates "locally". My local tracks growing up were NKY/Florence, Richmond, Clay City, Ponderosa, Frankfort, etc. They might be running for "only" $500 to win, but you can bet every time we went, there was Pat Patrick, Billy Teegarden, Fats Coffey, Butterball Wooldridge, Floyd Gilbert, etc. I could easily name 10 more, and they all have one thing in common -- they are Hall Of Fame inductees. They might not all be at the same track on the same night, but wherever you went in central of northern Kentucky, you would usually have to beat some of these guys to take home the win. It probably wasn't much different in some other states. If you won 1000 races, or 800 races, or whatever, you'd have to be pretty slick to dodge all the other top local guys every night.

Or you had a superior car in an era of less parity in the race cars, Example: Paul "Butterball" Woolridge in the Duncan Delight #59. Butterball won 50
races in 1971

Many examples of a superior car racking up huge win numbers on their local tracks. Such as Larry Phillips winning 70 features in 1972

TerryM
03-02-2019, 11:44 PM
My dad was buddies with a couple of the guys at Duncan Machinery Movers in Lexington, so we saw a bunch of their races back in the 70’s. Several HOFers drove that car. Not just Butterball. There were also other top car owners at the time who hired top drivers to drive their cars. That’s kind of how it works.

Zonks32x
03-03-2019, 07:40 AM
North Floridas Wayne "Sugar Bear" Shugart, when asked how many features he had won, said he stopped counting at 1200!

He stopped counting at 1200...which clearly implies the number is over 1200. Not buying it (that he doesn't know the #). If he counted the first 1200, he didn't stop couting after that. I'll guarantee if you ask Bloomer or Moyer how many feature wins they have that they know the exact number, and so does the "Sugar Bear."

All of that said, let's roll with 1200.
That breaks down to:
50 wins/year for 24 years.
40 wins/year for 30 years
30 wins/year for 40 years

That's an impressive decades long run for the "Sugar Bear."
What a great nickname, btw.

Barbecueboy
03-03-2019, 09:00 AM
There is a store named sugar bears that used to sponsor a car in the Carolina's....place has great fried chicken.

EvelB7
03-03-2019, 10:08 AM
Roger Dale Hammond I believe had the Sugar Bear sponsor....

Krooser
03-03-2019, 11:44 AM
I've gone 60 years without a five figure check... no respect.

Barbecueboy
03-03-2019, 12:01 PM
Roger Dale Hammond I believe had the Sugar Bear sponsor....

Yes sir.....always liked the look of that car.

ZERO25
03-03-2019, 01:20 PM
There is a store named sugar bears that used to sponsor a car in the Carolina's....place has great fried chicken.

Shugarts family were seafood wholesalers in St. Augustine which led to being sponsored by Pappy's seafood restaurant in St Aug.!