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Shiny Side Up 18
05-26-2019, 08:33 AM
The garbage spring weather continues...

golddirt
05-26-2019, 09:29 AM
Hope not in two weeks

WildBill32
05-26-2019, 01:49 PM
I can't remember a year with so many spring time rain outs. Maybe, there is something to this climate change theory.

Shiny Side Up 18
05-26-2019, 02:29 PM
I can't remember a year with so many spring time rain outs. Maybe, there is something to this climate change theory.

There is high pressure in the southeast that has basically been causing a buckle in the jet stream for the last week, leading to a very favorable environment for thunderstorms and severe weather.

RaceEngineer
05-26-2019, 02:44 PM
I can't remember a year with so many spring time rain outs. Maybe, there is something to this climate change theory.There used to be sago palms in Canada. #climatechangehasalwayshappened

Clayton_Wetter
05-26-2019, 03:09 PM
I can't remember a year with so many spring time rain outs. Maybe, there is something to this climate change theory.

Yes there is, a total made up fraud..

TerryM
05-26-2019, 04:58 PM
Hottest year ever so far in east Georgia. It was 100 yesterday, 102 today, 102 tomorrow, and 103 Tuesday. And we’re still a month away from summer.

racingumpire
05-26-2019, 05:19 PM
How do you have a rainout with no rain? Accuweather says it hasn't rained in more than 9 hrs. I'm not there but,do not believe it rained there.

Dlmfan123
05-26-2019, 06:57 PM
How do you have a rainout with no rain? Accuweather says it hasn't rained in more than 9 hrs. I'm not there but,do not believe it rained there.https://twitter.com/eldoraspeedway/status/1132625112337920001?s=21

TerryM
05-26-2019, 07:53 PM
Another blind ump lol ... go figure.

golddirt
05-26-2019, 08:00 PM
Didn’t it rain a lot just last year ?

chupp n bloomer fan
05-26-2019, 09:32 PM
Yes there is, a total made up fraud..I’m deeply shocked you would take that viewpoint (insert catastrophic sarcasm).

Wouldn’t wanna not tow the company line.

Mams
05-27-2019, 09:25 AM
A real quandary ... whether to believe every expert in the world or a guy with 16,000+ posts on 4m!

TerryM
05-27-2019, 09:48 AM
A real quandary ... whether to believe every expert in the world or a guy with 16,000+ posts on 4m!
Where is the LIKE button?

Barbecueboy
05-27-2019, 09:57 AM
So I wonder what's worse, 16+k posts on 4m or 16k + posts on Facebook???

Or are they both about the same?

Krooser
05-27-2019, 10:47 AM
A real quandary ... whether to believe every expert in the world or a guy with 16,000+ posts on 4m!

Every expert in the world (that the media chooses to quote on opinions based on flawed and downright lies from East Anglia University).

zyoung25
05-27-2019, 10:47 AM
Didn’t it rain a lot just last year?

It rained the Thursday portion out, and they ran it on Friday morning. It rained some Saturday, basically enough to push the show back a little bit.

ZERO25
05-27-2019, 12:42 PM
The only true climate change is that it was 71 this morning, and its changing to 100 this afternoon!

RaceEngineer
05-27-2019, 02:25 PM
The Earth's temperature has fluctuated wildly over the billions of years it has existed. Man made or not, it is getting hotter. This will make less of the planet hospitable for humans. A lower human population will be good for the health of the planet. It is just the Earth hitting the reset button. Why fight it?

NormP
05-27-2019, 04:15 PM
A real quandary ... whether to believe every expert in the world or a guy with 16,000+ posts on 4m!

Except that regardless of what you think a out global warming, not every expert in the world agrees with the theory.

Clayton_Wetter
05-27-2019, 04:24 PM
So I wonder what's worse, 16+k posts on 4m or 16k + posts on Facebook???

Or are they both about the same?

I don't care if I only have one post, climate change is a fraud and the so called experts are drawn out of a stacked deck. Only a duped fool can fall for that nonsense.

https://gamergrade.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/giphy.gif

Barbecueboy
05-27-2019, 04:27 PM
I was kind of commenting on another members hypocritical stance on your 16thousand some posts on 4m versus his 16k + on his own Facebook account...........not everyone gets it.

I see you were one of them

Clayton_Wetter
05-27-2019, 04:33 PM
I was kind of commenting on another members hypocritical stance on your 16thousand some posts on 4m versus his 16k + on his own Facebook account...........not everyone gets it.

I see you were one of them

BBQ I quote you by accident. My bad.....

BTW. Really? 16,000 posts of Fakebook? Sad!!!!

Clayton_Wetter
05-27-2019, 05:30 PM
A real quandary ... whether to believe every expert in the world or a guy with 16,000+ posts on 4m!

Please don't make false statements!!!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYa6CPKujLqaoBNYpZ0D_HAYVNq3BpX A0PR4KQSAID9SZLCQrG
:):)

Barbecueboy
05-27-2019, 05:41 PM
BBQ I quote you by accident. My bad.....

BTW. Really? 16,000 posts of Fakebook? Sad!!!!

It's just a hunch.

t3r3e3
05-27-2019, 05:50 PM
Yes there is, a total made up fraud..

Keep listening to Alex Jones and watching the Blaze Wetter. I work outside, and have all over this country, including where you live. Climate change is real whether you want to believe it or not. Its not the fact we’ve always had some level of change; rather, it’s the rapid rate of change we’re currently in that is alarming. It’s getting warmer, the ice at the poles and the glaciers are shrinking, the birds are migrating earlier, the fires are getting bigger, the plants are blooming earlier, rains are often harder, the floods are getting bigger, and we’re setting average temp records almost yearly now. I know most of y’all are right leaners on here and that’s cool, but it doesn’t change the reality of the long-term situation. Sure there are plenty of alarmist types out there that hawk the worst -case scenarios, and they need to tone it down some. However, the head in sand deniers are just as bad, and usually do so to protect short-term profits or out of plain ignorance. Even the military is prepping naval yards and bases for the coming sea level rise. Don’t parrot whatever the talking heads say; open your eyes and think for yourself.

Peace

CIRF
05-27-2019, 06:19 PM
It's scientifically unsubstantiated as to whether global warming is a natural phenomenon or if it is the result of excessive human activity. What is abundantly clear is that there is obscene amounts of money available to be made by those who are involved with the business of what is perceived to be global warming reversal and future prevention.

Anytime there are huge sums of money to be made there is ample room for skepticism.

One thing that has been completely scientifically substantiated is the United State is NOT the largest contributors of global greenhouse gasses. As a matter of fact, considering the overall industrialization of the U.S., as a country we're doing pretty well when a fair comparison is made to the rest of the industrialized world.

t3r3e3
05-27-2019, 06:50 PM
It's scientifically unsubstantiated as to whether global warming is a natural phenomenon or if it is the result of excessive human activity. What is abundantly clear is that there is obscene amounts of money available to be made by those who are involved with the business of what is perceived to be global warming reversal and future prevention.

Anytime there are huge sums of money to be made there is ample room for skepticism.

One thing that has been completely scientifically substantiated is the United State is NOT the largest contributors of global greenhouse gasses. As a matter of fact, considering the overall industrialization of the U.S., as a country we're doing pretty well when a fair comparison is made to the rest of the industrialized world.

About 98 percent of the scientific community begs to differ with your assertions. The minority 2% of the scientific community is bankrolled by the richest companies in the world (Exxon Mobil/BP/Shell/Andarco/etc.). Your huge sums of money comment was right, just aimed at the wrong group. Scientists generally don’t get rich, but corporate shareholders do.

The rate of increase in CO2 has skyrocketed in the past 50 years. And depending on which metric you use the USA is consistently Top 2 on emissions, the other country being China. We’re improving though, some because it’s cheaper to burn natural gas than dig and burn coal, and also because we’ve improved overall vehicle emissions. India will pass us soon enough.

Clayton_Wetter
05-27-2019, 07:58 PM
It's scientifically unsubstantiated as to whether global warming is a natural phenomenon or if it is the result of excessive human activity. What is abundantly clear is that there is obscene amounts of money available to be made by those who are involved with the business of what is perceived to be global warming reversal and future prevention.

Anytime there are huge sums of money to be made there is ample room for skepticism.

One thing that has been completely scientifically substantiated is the United State is NOT the largest contributors of global greenhouse gasses. As a matter of fact, considering the overall industrialization of the U.S., as a country we're doing pretty well when a fair comparison is made to the rest of the industrialized world.

That's the fraud. The Globalists/Socialists want to drain our middle class. And deal the money out to themselves and as they see fit. A total power grab.

And T3 you need to quit being indoctrinated like a college boy.

golddirt
05-27-2019, 08:21 PM
It rained the Thursday portion out, and they ran it on Friday morning. It rained some Saturday, basically enough to push the show back a little bit.

I was referring to all over the country with a lot of rainouts and it stormed pretty good Saturday afternoon. Was a long night Friday too

Clayton_Wetter
05-27-2019, 08:31 PM
Heaven forbid we have ANY extreme weather. Like it hasn't been extreme since creation. Meanwhile the glacier is now growing in Greenland. Inconvenient truth.

I'm done now. I didn't start this.

CIRF
05-27-2019, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by t3r3e3 "About 98 percent of the scientific community begs to differ with your assertions. The minority 2% of the scientific community is bankrolled by the richest companies in the world (Exxon Mobil/BP/Shell/Andarco/etc.). Your huge sums of money comment was right, just aimed at the wrong group. Scientists generally don’t get rich, but corporate shareholders do.

The rate of increase in CO2 has skyrocketed in the past 50 years. And depending on which metric you use the USA is consistently Top 2 on emissions, the other country being China. We’re improving though, some because it’s cheaper to burn natural gas than dig and burn coal, and also because we’ve improved overall vehicle emissions. India will pass us soon enough."

There has absolutely been no concrete conclusions that global warming, or whatever they're calling it these days, is a human based phenomenon or if it's a natural cyclical change in weather patterns. Not one of the 98% of scientists you sight is 100% conclusive on the causes. The overwhelming majority of the research has been done by colleges and universities. If you are gullible enough to believe the research conclusion's coming out of those paragon's of objectivity and virtue then it's a safe bet you're a joyful passenger on the global warming train. Remember, from the mid 1970's through the 1980's there was talk of an impending ice age. I'm not trying to say there is no validity to the research that has been done, I'm saying look very close at who's writing the conclusions.

While it's true that scientists are generally not billionaires they're comfortable and want to stay that way and most of the college's and universities enjoy endowments that amount to billions and they want to keep them in tact and growing. Government research grants are often very tidy sums, especially when the conclusions fit a certain narrative. See the irony? Probably not, given how you've swallowed what they've fed you. When there are trillions of dollars and huge increases of governmental power in the mix skepticism is not only a possibility, it's warranted.

racingumpire
05-27-2019, 11:02 PM
https://twitter.com/eldoraspeedway/status/1132625112337920001?s=21
According to accuweather it last rained around 8-9am sunday morning and only.21 hundredths of an inch.Thats not enough rain to water the track as hot and dry as its been.My guess is Tony went to Indy and flew to Charlotte to be at the races.Again just guessing.Should not schedule this race on Memorial weekend.By the way it never showed to rain after 8-9 Sun. morn.

t3r3e3
05-28-2019, 12:00 AM
That's the fraud. The Globalists/Socialists want to drain our middle class. And deal the money out to themselves and as they see fit. A total power grab.

And T3 you need to quit being indoctrinated like a college boy.

Dude here’s the deal: I mentioned things like birds, plants, fire, floods, etc. My job results in me doing: plant surveys, wildlife surveys, Western Fire assignments, and disaster recovery assignments. Those things I mentioned weren’t indoctrination compadre. It’s all boots on the ground first-hand observation, and I work with other folks who do the same kind of work. When I say the plants are blooming earlier, the birds are migrating earlier, it’s raining harder, the fires/floods are getting worse, and it’s getting hotter it ain’t because I’m parked in front of a PC or idiot box, and I’m not getting rich doing what I do.

Take off the tinfoil hat and try someone else with that weak argument.

RaceEngineer
05-28-2019, 06:41 AM
^^^people said the same during the "mini ice age". 100 years of observation mean nothing when attempting to extrapolate a pattern of a 2 billion year old object.

Dlmfan123
05-28-2019, 07:42 AM
According to accuweather it last rained around 8-9am sunday morning and only.21 hundredths of an inch.Thats not enough rain to water the track as hot and dry as its been.My guess is Tony went to Indy and flew to Charlotte to be at the races.Again just guessing.Should not schedule this race on Memorial weekend.By the way it never showed to rain after 8-9 Sun. morn.Tony was down south racing sprint cars all weekend Friday-monday. Doubt he had any plan of being at eldora

mcarter815
05-28-2019, 10:35 AM
Climate change will bring wetter springs and falls and drier summers. There is an El Niño even occurring this year, which normally makes for drier weather in the midwest, but the Gulf of Mexico is warming than normal and that's offsetting it.

Too many laymen confuse scientific theories with hypotheses.

mcarter815
05-28-2019, 10:36 AM
How do you have a rainout with no rain? Accuweather says it hasn't rained in more than 9 hrs. I'm not there but,do not believe it rained there.

If they are like us, the ground is so saturated after the past month that any little bit of rain within 24 hours is too much.

Barbecueboy
05-28-2019, 11:03 AM
^^^people said the same during the "mini ice age". 100 years of observation mean nothing when attempting to extrapolate a pattern of a 2 billion year old object.

Same thing with humans and civilization .........our time on this earth is just a blip In the grand scheme of things.

I think we can do better as a populous to help the cause of a cleaner earth, but I also think what we are seeing is more cyclical than anything.

mcarter815
05-28-2019, 11:05 AM
Same thing with humans and civilization .........our time on this earth is just a blip In the grand scheme of things.

I think we can do better as a populous to help the cause of a cleaner earth, but I also think what we are seeing is more cyclical than anything.

Whether it's cyclical or human-caused doesn't really matter from the perspective of race rain-outs. The end result is the same.

CIRF
05-28-2019, 11:32 AM
Whether it's cyclical or human-caused doesn't really matter from the perspective of race rain-outs. The end result is the same.

You are spot on mcarter! Thank you for that bottom line perspective.

Barbecueboy
05-28-2019, 11:40 AM
Touché .........

ZERO25
05-28-2019, 05:35 PM
Wasn't it just a few years ago, we were being told by the experts we were gonna experience another Ice Age?

And now those same experts are telling us were gonna drown and heat to death!

Just like a black lady said to me recently......"What do them negroes think they're doing"....or a popular saying years ago....nigga pleeeeeze!

TerryM
05-28-2019, 06:12 PM
Wasn't it just a few years ago, we were being told by the experts we were gonna experience another Ice Age?
When was this?

Waldo
05-28-2019, 06:37 PM
Just a few years ago. He is right, the experts said global warming would lead to another ice age. I also read this.

t3r3e3
05-28-2019, 06:45 PM
^^^people said the same during the "mini ice age". 100 years of observation mean nothing when attempting to extrapolate a pattern of a 2 billion year old object.

You realize with tools like ice cores, lake bed sampling, fire scars, tree cores, etc that the data sets on some things go back 1000’s of years? It’s not the fact that we’re changing that is the issue; it’s the rate at which we are changing that is alarming. The mini ice age you speak of was in the Middle Ages; hard to know what folks thought then.

I do find it hilarious that keyboard know it alls like Wetter who stay inside and watch cable news and the inter webs think they can educate me on said subject. It’d be like me watching some YouTube then telling CnB how to operate heavy machinery. That’s all I have; we can agree to disagree.

Hope none of y’all caught any damage from the Ohio tornadoes yesterday. Long night last night.

WildBill32
05-28-2019, 06:54 PM
The so called experts also said that the Polar Bear was heading to extinction because of global warming. But, there numbers have risen. With that said... There sure have been alot of rain outs this year.

RaceEngineer
05-28-2019, 06:55 PM
^^i am aware of those pieces of evidence. I am also aware they show periods of much higher c02 concentration in the atmosphere. I am also aware of the fossils records that show much more of the planet was once ocean. I am also aware there were tropical plants in Canada. I could care less if the climate changes.

ZERO25
05-28-2019, 07:34 PM
^^i am aware of those pieces of evidence. I am also aware they show periods of much higher c02 concentration in the atmosphere. I am also aware of the fossils records that show much more of the planet was once ocean. I am also aware there were tropical plants in Canada. I could care less if the climate changes.

While I agree, we have no control over the earths final destiny!

That's "above" my paygrade!

CIRF
05-28-2019, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by t3r3e3: The mini ice age you speak of was in the Middle Ages;

The mini ice age I speak of took place in the mid 1970's thru the 1980's. Here in the midwest and upper midwest there were records broken dating back to the mid 19th century for low temps and snowfall numerous times during that period. During the early to mid 1980's Florida had the worst freezes on record. My wife's family was already living down there at that time and during one period in January the highs for the day in Daytona Beach didn't recover above freezing for 3 full days. It decimated the citrus industry in Volusia County, Florida to this day. For the first time in recorded history there were snow flurries in Miami, Florida during that period. And yes, there was talk of the climate changing to a much colder norm. The blizzards of that period were unlike anything anyone alive had ever experienced. No one said it was anything more than cyclical weather patterns. Society hadn't become as gullible as it is today!

ZERO25
05-28-2019, 08:55 PM
The mini ice age I speak of took place in the mid 1970's thru the 1980's. Here in the midwest and upper midwest there were records broken dating back to the mid 19th century for low temps and snowfall numerous times during that period. During the early to mid 1980's Florida had the worst freezes on record. My wife's family was already living down there at that time and during one period in January the highs for the day in Daytona Beach didn't recover above freezing for 3 full days. It decimated the citrus industry in Volusia County, Florida to this day. For the first time in recorded history there were snow flurries in Miami, Florida during that period. And yes, there was talk of the climate changing to a much colder norm. The blizzards of that period were unlike anything anyone alive had ever experienced. No one said it was anything more than cyclical weather patterns. Society hadn't become as gullible as it is today!


Yep, I survived it. lol
Our high was 16 deg that day!



https://flbrace.org/images/docs/extreme-cold-factsheet.pdf

Clayton_Wetter
05-28-2019, 09:06 PM
^^^people said the same during the "mini ice age". 100 years of observation mean nothing when attempting to extrapolate a pattern of a 2 billion year old object.

T3 is very gullible, he's letting the Weather Channel get to him with their propaganda. He chooses to believe the lie.

The sky is falling. hahahahaah

Barbecueboy
05-28-2019, 09:29 PM
Doesn't change the fact that we all can do a little better to preserve the planet we have to live on for the moment.....what could it hurt?

doing a lot of small things makes big things happen sometimes.

kidrock
05-28-2019, 09:36 PM
Doesn't change the fact that we all can do a little better to preserve the planet we have to live on for the moment.....what could it hurt?

doing a lot of small things makes big things happen sometimes.

Amen brother...………………………………………………………...

Clayton_Wetter
05-29-2019, 12:07 PM
Doesn't change the fact that we all can do a little better to preserve the planet we have to live on for the moment.....what could it hurt?

doing a lot of small things makes big things happen sometimes.

Vegburgers on the grill for you sir!!!!! hahahahahaaa

Barbecueboy
05-29-2019, 12:17 PM
They are pretty good if you know how to make them.......we use no fossil fuel on 95% of our cookers.

All live fire mostly with hickory and or oak.......

mcarter815
05-29-2019, 12:50 PM
Impossible Burger is pretty convincing.

ALLDIRT
05-29-2019, 01:02 PM
Yes there is, a total made up fraud..

There is climate change happening right now . Has been since the earth began . We can't
change it . We can stop littering the earth . But we can not change the weather . PERIOD .

RaceEngineer
05-29-2019, 03:15 PM
^^if you have combined egg and sperm together more times than once, you have more blood on your hands than you should. You have contributed to human overpopulation.

chupp n bloomer fan
05-29-2019, 04:42 PM
Just a few years ago. He is right, the experts said global warming would lead to another ice age. I also read this.I think you two are full of it. All the images I’ve seen are of stuff melting, and the Earth getting warmer, and the seas rising. No where have I ever heard of another Ice Age. FAKE NEWS ha ha ha

ZERO25
05-29-2019, 07:18 PM
I think you two are full of it. All the images I’ve seen are of stuff melting, and the Earth getting warmer, and the seas rising. No where have I ever heard of another Ice Age. FAKE NEWS ha ha ha

Sorry bro you wrong on this!

The freezes in Fla in the late 80's and early 90's led many experts to claim it would keep getting worse every year.Of course it didn't, just like this global warming/climate change!

There used to be hundreds of thousands of acres of citrus groves in north and central Fla. Not any more, farmers are too scared to plant due to the freeze line moving farther and farther south!

Clayton_Wetter
05-29-2019, 08:42 PM
How quick these people forget or ignore last winter... Snow even in Egypt....

WildBill32
05-29-2019, 09:32 PM
Don't worry AOC Green New Deal will save us all... Lol

Austin34471
05-29-2019, 11:33 PM
Not sure what the form will be, but artificial intelligence will be the death of the human race far before “climate change” gets us.

ALLDIRT
05-30-2019, 07:50 AM
How quick these people forget or ignore last winter... Snow even in Egypt....

They are playing into the hands of another agency getting all they need for one of the
best jobs in the world . I don't work for them but I can tell you , Climate Change is real .
Been going on for billions of years . Hahahaha , And we can't stop it . These fools that
say for the last two hundred years we now know that we are the cause of it , WOW .
What are we gonna do about those cows . I am having a barbecue . Eat more beef .

Clayton_Wetter
05-31-2019, 05:17 PM
They are playing into the hands of another agency getting all they need for one of the
best jobs in the world . I don't work for them but I can tell you , Climate Change is real .
Been going on for billions of years . Hahahaha , And we can't stop it . These fools that
say for the last two hundred years we now know that we are the cause of it , WOW .
What are we gonna do about those cows . I am having a barbecue . Eat more beef .

Still waiting for the climate goons to blame the plains flooding on climate change/global warming. Or have they already???

Back in 1936 heat records were set that have never been matched in this country since. But now a days just one hot day is all it takes to have countless lemmings fall for the wide spread propaganda that ensues.