Mastersbilt’s

[rosco]

Does anyone know what the differences between the new Mastersbilt’s are?

Gen X
R8
Gen R...


I’d like to know if possible which cars are able to be updated to the latest without reclipping the chassis

Thanks

[MLR19]

GEN R = raised rear rails
R-8 = Built using Docol tube

All gen X can be updated to latest specs, mainly rack , strut & frame rail raised for clearance, and added bracing to front end.
Can also be updated to under rail and bolt on 4 link brackets,
I think this can all be purchased in kit form, if you have the fab skills.

[drgracer392]

GEN R = raised rear rails R-8 = Built using Docol tube All gen X can be updated to latest specs, mainly rack , strut & frame rail raised for clearance, and added bracing to front end. Can also be updated to under rail and bolt on 4 link brackets, I think this can all be purchased in kit form, if you have the fab skills. 100% correct we have done this to our car, and replaced the 4 bar plates with the new updated kit.

[Krooser]

Here's about $800.oo worth of updates... two raised crossmembers, new four bar brackets and mounting hardware. Nice quality stuff. For my '03 Smackdown.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/151953470@N05/48965592581/in/dateposted-public/

[rosco]

I have so many questions. So are all of the pictures on that flickr the same car? If so I’d like to do the same to my 04 Mastersbilt.
Have you driven the car since Sd if so would you say the updates have made the car competitive against the newer cars (Gen R, XR1...)?

Is this the S7 update or is this another kit?

Also what is entailed other than updating to the raised cross member?

I was looking at an “R8” in my area and it is incredibly cheaper than any XR1 or even blue gray. I was wondering why. The same guy has a year older Gen x by MBH that is the same price. I don’t know why the newer car wouldn’t be more especially being of Docol tubing.

Thanks so much

[rosco]

When you say raised rear rail. Where exactly did they raise the rails and is it both rails?

[keeks]

Probably raised right rail.

[MLR19]

Both rear rails are raised

[rosco]

Sorry just having trouble visualizing what they did. So if they raised the rear rails they would have to raise the driver correct? Unless the rails that were raised are the rails that the shocks connect to

[Renegade Cust Susp]

The over rails are higher and rr rail is inset farther to give more clearance for spring movement and tire movement, main frame rails are in the same place, rails over the rear ended are higher

[rosco]

Awesome thanks so much!

So does that mean that the rr shock is longer and leaned in more?

[Krooser]

There's a mix of pix...different cars. Mostly used for reference to my car. Some pix are of my smackdown... bare black chassis


Haven't raced with the updated...ask me this summer.

[rosco]

If the rr frame rail is inset more does that mean the rr shock is at more of an angle?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If the rr frame rail is inset more does that mean the rr shock is at more of an angle?

I doubt it. You can rub on gen x with extreme drop.

[Krooser]

Here's a few pix of my chassis updates...

https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/attachments/img_20200224_132053259-jpg.1715476372/

https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/attachments/img_20200224_132042610-jpg.1715476373/

https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/attachments/img_20200224_132132724-jpg.1715476374/

https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/attachments/img_20200224_132115196-jpg.1715476375/

[keeks]

Looks great Krooser.

[Krooser]

Thanks.... I must confess I leaked out and had a local shop do the work. I'm back working 60 hours per week so I have the cashola to race so I realized if I want to race this year it had to get done.

Right Foot Performance in Appleton, WI did the work. They build new pavement cars plus contract with two other guys to build their modifieds and IMCA stock cars. They also build a lot of suspension parts like birdcages, torque rods, sway bars and such. Good people.

I just got the heat turned on in my shop last week...several years ago a guy was using my shop to build a bobber cycle and ran up a huge gas bill then took off. I had just retired and had it shut off because I didn't have $900 to pay the bill back then. Now it's toasty warm so no excuses for not getting the car done.

Still waiting on pistons...

[drgracer392]

Kooser, id go ahead and put the X brace up front, the drivers dash bar, and the under-slung in the rear....make it stiff like a new car. Makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE...

[JustAddDirt]

also run a stiffing bar from the LF upper coil over area on downtube, back to the door bar area. stiffens quite a bit as well.

[CCHIEF]

also run a stiffing bar from the LF upper coil over area on downtube, back to the door bar area. stiffens quite a bit as well.I believe early ( 2017?)XR1’s had one, but not the later ones

[bullittwrench]

Pretty sure ur right. We were told if we bought a 17, cut that bar out.

[CCHIEF]

That's what some do, 16 IIRC didn't have that, nor 18 up.

[Krooser]

Yeah I'm going to put an x in front of the radiator... Might a bit extra but I want to get the engine bolted in to see what I have room for. Got to put a verticle bar from the top door bar to the front roll cage bar. Not sure when Tader added those.

[Jking24]

Pretty sure ur right. We were told if we bought a 17, cut that bar out.I don't think you need to cut anything that bar was just their to help strengthen the car if you get hit in the rf wheel. People started associating cars that didn't run well with it as (bad) cars meanwhile their are tons of cars winning with it aswell. So they stopped putting it in

[CCHIEF]

....goes Along with the wide chassis lore??...YMMV,  believes it seems??

[Krooser]

....goes Along with the wide chassis lore??...YMMV,  believes it seems??

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[CCHIEF]

....goes Along with the wide chassis lore??...YMMV, rocket believes it seems??It didn’t take my rocket emoji, fixed it.People say the wide cage XR1 cars are no good, as are the 17’s with the extra lf bar. Rocket stopped putting that bar in and many turn their nose up at 17’s with it and wide cage cars. Not my opinion, had great Experiences with both thru the years, run new cars every year. That’s why I call it folk lore.Clear as mud? Grins

[Krooser]

I've heard opinions about the different XR1's too. Also heard a B/G can run all XR1 parts and be fast, too. I'm too dumb to know the difference.

[CCHIEF]

....Highly dependent on the minds and muscles involved....I know nothing, I see nothing!!

[potts5]

What everyones opinion on the new masterbilt r cars

[JustAddDirt]

good crate cars
not a good super

[Jking24]

I've heard opinions about the different XR1's too. Also heard a B/G can run all XR1 parts and be fast, too. I'm too dumb to know the difference.Yes you can run all xr-1 front suspension on a B/g or a orange car. It doesent make them a xr but it does help with the new front end settings and increased travel but without the updated crossmember is not gonna be a game changer

[ZERO25]

What exactly does it help with? We have a 2014 bg and would be interested in updating!