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JayD
03-18-2020, 03:53 PM
I hope I’m wrong but that means no Dream and an almost complete wipeout of the Summernationals.

WisWildManFan
03-18-2020, 04:01 PM
Not willing to buy into that yet

brsteg
03-18-2020, 04:26 PM
Sunday Sept 6 Baltes Classic
Monday Sept 7 DREAM Night 1 Twin 25s
Tuesday Sept 8 DREAM Night 2 Twin 25s
Wednesday Sept 9 DREAM Night 3 100 laps $126,000 to win
Thursday Sept 10 World 100 Night 1 Twins 25s
Fri Sept 11 World 100 Night 2 Twins 25s
Sat Sept 12 World 100 $53,000 to win

Seems fine to me...

MasterSbilt_Racer
03-18-2020, 04:50 PM
# flattenthecurve. #flattentheeconomy

smoothoperator32
03-18-2020, 05:27 PM
Just saw 18 months wow

WisWildManFan
03-18-2020, 05:50 PM
They will change narrative in news soon, not going to let this economy crumble to save people that are already on their death beds

Trippy McSidewalk
03-18-2020, 06:08 PM
Not a fan of the truth around here WWMF.

foxfire2dirtracing
03-18-2020, 06:19 PM
So the “old folks” who brought you into this world- changed your crappy diapers, fed you, raised you, sent you to school & stents many thousands of dollars & heartache/worries over you: is it ok to just push them aside & forget about them ??

WisWildManFan
03-18-2020, 06:31 PM
If you are 80 or 90 you have lived a full life. These same people will die from the flu or pneumonia at some point. That’s how life works, they die from something because of a weakened immune system. To F up civilization for everyone else for something that has been happening since the beginning of time is ludicrous. Flu deaths in the US estimated at 12,000 to 60,000 per year.

t4g2
03-18-2020, 07:27 PM
It's effecting more than the elderly. anyone from age 9 is the youngest in Illinois. All I know I had 5 tradeshows for the business that has canceled all the way til mid June. So take it for what it is. it's going to get worse before better. There #'s on this are behind 3 days as in my town we have 2 with it and it's not been reporting/released as of yet.

GEAR_HEAD
03-18-2020, 07:28 PM
Just saw 18 months wow

That was fake Yahoo news. That is how long they're projecting the virus to be around. They cannot take people's freedoms away for more than these 15 days. If they do things will get ugly real fast. The lack of freedom and the economy completely crashing is more dangerous than the virus.

mcarter815
03-18-2020, 07:50 PM
It looks like it does permanent lung damage even to the young survivors.

smoothoperator32
03-18-2020, 07:52 PM
That was fake Yahoo news. That is how long they're projecting the virus to be around. They cannot take people's freedoms away for more than these 15 days. If they do things will get ugly real fast. The lack of freedom and the economy completely crashing is more dangerous than the virus.

No it was not yahoo news i don't read that crap

GEAR_HEAD
03-18-2020, 08:10 PM
They just announced on the news that Hydroxychloroquine has been proven to be 100% effective against the Coronavirus. It worked in 40 of 40 test patients. It was only the second time in history that a trial had a 100% success rate. I'm sure there will be more on this tomorrow.

WisWildManFan
03-18-2020, 08:12 PM
It's effecting more than the elderly. anyone from age 9 is the youngest in Illinois. All I know I had 5 tradeshows for the business that has canceled all the way til mid June. So take it for what it is. it's going to get worse before better. There #'s on this are behind 3 days as in my town we have 2 with it and it's not been reporting/released as of yet.Yea elderly are the ones dying. The flu affects children as well.

WisWildManFan
03-18-2020, 08:16 PM
It looks like it does permanent lung damage even to the young survivors.So does smoking and vaping. Your point is getting more desperate by the day.

racincowboy02
03-18-2020, 08:35 PM
I am curious as to what the dems are trying to hide and keep us blinded to

foxfire2dirtracing
03-18-2020, 08:38 PM
WisWildManFan

Apparently you have total disregard & respect for the elderly. I just lost my 87 year old mother in December. Your mother should have had an abortion when she was pregnant with you!

Raceready
03-18-2020, 09:29 PM
So does smoking and vaping. Your point is getting more desperate by the day. Oh how VERY VERY true !! ! ! !

mcarter815
03-18-2020, 09:33 PM
So does smoking and vaping. Your point is getting more desperate by the day.

Both of which are heavily regulated and taxed voluntary activities. People don’t sign up to catch covid-19.

ZERO25
03-18-2020, 09:51 PM
Woooooooooo…...the deaths are piling up! Its "up" to 1.37%!

The world is coming to its end! smh

mcarter815
03-18-2020, 10:23 PM
The flu has a death rate of .1%. If left unchecked, 60% of the US population could end up with it meaning 2,671,500 deaths. That’s only if the hospitals don’t overflow.

One Man Gang
03-18-2020, 10:37 PM
They just announced on the news that Hydroxychloroquine has been proven to be 100% effective against the Coronavirus. It worked in 40 of 40 test patients. It was only the second time in history that a trial had a 100% success rate. I'm sure there will be more on this tomorrow.
Wtf is Hydroxychloroquine ? Sounds like water, Clorox and horse piss mixed together

racincowboy02
03-18-2020, 10:41 PM
Ok enough of the what ifs and could and should

Its almost comical that these main stream news media outlets are blowing this up. Is it a serious health concern yes but is it serious enough that you are enacting marshal law in terms of telling people you can't be in a crowd of more that 10 people I mean come on this is getting ridiculous

WisWildManFan
03-19-2020, 06:30 AM
WisWildManFanApparently you have total disregard & respect for the elderly. I just lost my 87 year old mother in December. Your mother should have had an abortion when she was pregnant with you!Lol so at what age would have you been “ok” with her dying? 90? 100? 110? 80 plus people die every day that’s how life works. I hate to break it to you that no one lives forever. As far as my mother she is in her 60s with a previous heart condition. She is still going to work daily. That’s called not being a PuS$y and putting herself at risk to help others.

WisWildManFan
03-19-2020, 06:31 AM
She works at a hospital

GEAR_HEAD
03-19-2020, 06:37 AM
Wtf is Hydroxychloroquine ? Sounds like water, Clorox and horse piss mixed together

It's what they use to treat Malaria. It was approved for use in the 1940's so there wouldn't have to be a wait to use it. It is also cheap to make.

kidrock
03-19-2020, 06:48 AM
WisWildManFan

Apparently you have total disregard & respect for the elderly. I just lost my 87 year old mother in December. Your mother should have had an abortion when she was pregnant with you!

I have many family member's who have lost their parents, My Aunts, Uncles and the pain the feel everyday form losing their parents are real. He won't know that feeling until God for bid she passes and then again maybe some just don't have the same feeling for their parents.

kidrock
03-19-2020, 06:53 AM
It's what they use to treat Malaria. It was approved for use in the 1940's so there wouldn't have to be a wait to use it. It is also cheap to make.

That's encouraging news lets hope this pans out to be true.

Pennsboro32
03-19-2020, 07:18 AM
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid boys. Media wants you to panic.

foxfire2dirtracing
03-19-2020, 10:48 AM
Hydroxycloroquine- has been used for along time in effectively treating malaria.

NeedforLMspeed
03-19-2020, 11:25 AM
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid boys. Media wants you to panic.

Then the state collects all that tax money when you go panic shopping. DON'T BUY INTO IT!!!

jr29
03-19-2020, 11:30 AM
Can WWMF get banned ? Seriously.

MasterSbilt_Racer
03-19-2020, 11:38 AM
It looks like it does permanent lung damage even to the young survivors.

Most SARS sufferers eventually recovered lung capacity by 6 months after overcoming the virus. It's too early to know, but one could reasonably assume this to repeat.

jr29
03-19-2020, 11:39 AM
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid boys. Media wants you to panic.

You are making stuff up. I watch the liberal channels. From the beginning they have said don't panic. Be cautious but don't panic.

WisWildManFan
03-19-2020, 11:41 AM
Can WWMF get banned ? Seriously.Is this board not for opinions?

jr29
03-19-2020, 11:44 AM
Is this board not for opinions?

Yep. And yours are repulsive.

MasterSbilt_Racer
03-19-2020, 11:44 AM
You guys don't like what WWMF has to say, but a person's life is quantified by insurance companies every day. It's how they decide what treatments are worth paying for. The British press and government have been willing to discuss the fact that this is a choice between older humans and future generations. The costs are being shifted from old to young. The young are paying unknown future financial costs, current financial costs, and lifestyle costs. Those costs can legitimately be weighed against the mean loss in life, in years, of those saved by quarantine.

WisWildManFan
03-19-2020, 11:51 AM
Yep. And yours are repulsive.You made my day, thanks.

jr29
03-19-2020, 11:51 AM
You guys don't like what WWMF has to say, but a person's life is quantified by insurance companies every day. It's how they decide what treatments are worth paying for. The British press and government have been willing to discuss the fact that this is a choice between older humans and future generations. The costs are being shifted from old to young. The young are paying unknown future financial costs, current financial costs, and lifestyle costs. Those costs can legitimately be weighed against the mean loss in life, in years, of those saved by quarantine.

Yep. WWMF isn't an insurance company though. He's a jerk on a message board.

WisWildManFan
03-19-2020, 11:54 AM
You are making stuff up. I watch the liberal channels. From the beginning they have said don't panic. Be cautious but don't panic.It all makes sense now

jr29
03-19-2020, 11:57 AM
Ok enough of the what ifs and could and should

Its almost comical that these main stream news media outlets are blowing this up. Is it a serious health concern yes but is it serious enough that you are enacting marshal law in terms of telling people you can't be in a crowd of more that 10 people I mean come on this is getting ridiculous

Martial law...not marshall.
No one is getting arrested or being strong armed by the military.

MasterSbilt_Racer
03-19-2020, 11:58 AM
Yep. WWMF isn't an insurance company though. He's a jerk on a message board.

He making a value argument. It hurts feelings cause it's out in the open.

jr29
03-19-2020, 11:59 AM
She works at a hospital

Well, pin a ribbon a ribbon on her for being such a bad@$$.

jr29
03-19-2020, 12:00 PM
He making a value argument. It hurts feelings cause it's out in the open.

It doesn't hurt feelings. It just shows a lack of decency and civility.

WisWildManFan
03-19-2020, 12:03 PM
Well, pin a ribbon a ribbon on her for being such a bad@$$.lol lol you're one stupid f*ck

MasterSbilt_Racer
03-19-2020, 12:06 PM
It doesn't hurt feelings. It just shows a lack of decency and civility.

Perhaps. I feel I said the same thing, but also feel it was decently presented.

Pennsboro32
03-19-2020, 02:02 PM
You are making stuff up. I watch the liberal channels. From the beginning they have said don't panic. Be cautious but don't panic.I didn't say which media. Get on Facebook, twitter, etc and look at all of that overreaction. It does nothing but worsen the situation.

foxfire2dirtracing
03-19-2020, 03:40 PM
Tennessee now has 155 confirmed cases. Of those 70% are in the 18-49 age group.

victorylane
03-19-2020, 03:43 PM
Don't be such a crybaby jr29.

Dlmfan123
03-19-2020, 05:03 PM
Tennessee now has 155 confirmed cases. Of those 70% are in the 18-49 age group.18-49 is an awfully wide age gap..

bullring
03-19-2020, 05:37 PM
You are making stuff up. I watch the liberal channels. From the beginning they have said don't panic. Be cautious but don't panic.

Every day they are preaching hysteria. Even went so far as calling for Trump to be charged with negligent homicide. Get woke

foxfire2dirtracing
03-19-2020, 05:58 PM
Yes it is- but the point I was making is that 70% are not senior citizens over 60.

3 wide
03-19-2020, 06:18 PM
Be careful posting the truth on her they will take it down just post a bunch a lies they will leave that up.

fryefan
03-19-2020, 09:50 PM
It doesn't hurt feelings. It just shows a lack of decency and civility.

Agreed. He has no respect for the elderly.

gator 49
03-19-2020, 11:07 PM
Anyone can be a carrier of coronavirus that's the reason for everyone to stay home, or not to be in groups. Old and young with health issues are more apt to die than healthier people. What the Government is doing is trying to slow the virus down until they can produce a vaccine to control it. Everyone just has to give up their norm for awhile then hopefully everyone can continue with life again. A good prayer is needed for all humans now.

Barbecueboy
03-19-2020, 11:15 PM
It's what they use to treat Malaria. It was approved for use in the 1940's so there wouldn't have to be a wait to use it. It is also cheap to make.

Was ......cheap to make.

Big pharma will be changing all that very soon some kind of way.

Barbecueboy
03-19-2020, 11:34 PM
Tennessee now has 155 confirmed cases. Of those 70% are in the 18-49 age group.

I'm looking for all silver linings possible and this is good news since these majority of folks have much better odds of it not killing them.

I'm struggling to find my balance a little on this whole thing because now that that hysteria genie is out of the bottle it can't go back in and as serious of a matter as this is and as many lives as this will affect ( like a lot of death we can't seem to stop and lose loved ones too every single day) I can't help but look at the obvious hatred for the administration from most of the mainstream media and lay some very deserving hysteria blame at their feet for letting narrative and spitefulness get in the way of public interest ,patriotism and responsible accurate honest reporting.

When you have the attention of almost every human alive that can access any kind of media the reporting you do comes with a certain level of responsibility....it shouldn't in any way be used to incite .......anything.......ever.

gator 49
03-19-2020, 11:37 PM
That would be China, they make most of the worlds pharmaceutical medicines.

Barbecueboy
03-19-2020, 11:39 PM
Anyone can be a carrier of coronavirus that's the reason for everyone to stay home, or not to be in groups. Old and young with health issues are more apt to die than healthier people. What the Government is doing is trying to slow the virus down until they can produce a vaccine to control it. Everyone just has to give up their norm for awhile then hopefully everyone can continue with life again. A good prayer is needed for all humans now.

If I would have read this first I wouldn't have even posted in this thread tonight......thread ender gator.....well said and I think you are dead on the money.

Barbecueboy
03-19-2020, 11:42 PM
That would be China, they make most of the worlds pharmaceutical medicines.

So it came from China and now they will profit immensely from the supposed cure.......that's going to make some conspirists head explode.

gator 49
03-20-2020, 01:00 AM
We all face the same fear, who is going to use the next atomic bomb? Well China, Russia, US, and other know you can't take over a country by blowing it up. Chemical, Biological Radiology are what will take out a country with out atomic warfare. All viruses are biological mutations that attack DNA in humans and plants. That is why every year we are hit with a different virus because the mutation changes and attacks cells differently. The problem is different countries are playing with viruses in a way to kill humans without destroying the land. This is what Power does to people, makes them evil and crazy. I don't trust any country nowadays, even the USA and the New World Order is right here in the good old U.S.A. Look at some of our government officials Schiff, Schumer, Pelosi, Nadler, Omar, AOC, and of courses Maxine Watters. I am sure some will put Pre. Trump in there but not me.

TBSprintFan
03-20-2020, 01:52 AM
I see a lot of people on hear upset that racing is being cancelled for a short while which is nothing, but with this virus mostly affecting older people, that alone could be harder on racing in the long run as that is mostly the age group that supports racing the most. Next time just look in the stands or at car owners, sponsors, etc. and you wiĺ see that the older age group of people are the one's supporting racing the most.

Mod Runner
03-20-2020, 01:57 AM
Back to the original post. I think the July 1st prediction may be correct.

fryefan
03-20-2020, 02:22 AM
Back to the original post. I think the July 1st prediction may be correct.

I hope we are able to be back at the track by then, but that is most likely an optimistic prediction.

Trippy McSidewalk
03-22-2020, 06:40 AM
gonna just leave this here:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/22/coronavirus-crisis-medical-ethics-guide-decisions-doctors-cant-help-all/2882738001/

grt74
03-22-2020, 07:39 AM
Sunday Sept 6 Baltes Classic
Monday Sept 7 DREAM Night 1 Twin 25s
Tuesday Sept 8 DREAM Night 2 Twin 25s
Wednesday Sept 9 DREAM Night 3 100 laps $126,000 to win
Thursday Sept 10 World 100 Night 1 Twins 25s
Fri Sept 11 World 100 Night 2 Twins 25s
Sat Sept 12 World 100 $53,000 to win

Seems fine to me...

talk about the pits being full,lol

WisWildManFan
03-22-2020, 08:20 AM
340 US deaths, 26,000 Reported US cases. Down to 1.3% death rate here and think about the thousands of unreported cases.

nc mudcat
03-22-2020, 10:34 AM
We all face the same fear, who is going to use the next atomic bomb?.....
Actually, and thankfully, no, we don't. The threat is always there, but I am not worried in the least about it. Thankfully, I am not a worrier. Besides, who needs to use an atomic bomb when you can simply create a virus, name it after a beer, release it on the world, and sit back and watch us implode?

TBSprintFan
03-23-2020, 02:56 AM
340 US deaths, 26,000 Reported US cases. Down to 1.3% death rate here and think about the thousands of unreported cases.

Sorry to say but that is just the beginning and you are a fool if you think that it is not going to get a lot worse. Every health official with a brain is saying this. This virus has nothing to do with who is President and that this is an election year for the US. Look what is happening throughout the world and it will happen here also. Don't expect much racing in 2020 to happen, even the 2020 summer Olympics is already in jeopardy.

WisWildManFan
03-23-2020, 09:28 AM
Sorry to say but that is just the beginning and you are a fool if you think that it is not going to get a lot worse. Every health official with a brain is saying this. This virus has nothing to do with who is President and that this is an election year for the US. Look what is happening throughout the world and it will happen here also. Don't expect much racing in 2020 to happen, even the 2020 summer Olympics is already in jeopardy.more reported cases lower death rate, that makes it better if we are in fear of dying from it.

mcarter815
03-23-2020, 09:47 AM
more reported cases lower death rate, that makes it better if we are in fear of dying from it.

The death rate will start going back up if the hospitals fill up.

Barbecueboy
03-23-2020, 12:01 PM
Really?

Dumbest most obvious post ever.......ever.

t4g2
03-23-2020, 01:06 PM
The labs that do the test are back logged so the numbers are not accurate and won't be til end of the week.

foxfire2dirtracing
03-23-2020, 03:46 PM
United States death toll now at 573

MasterSbilt_Racer
03-23-2020, 04:37 PM
The labs that do the test are back logged so the numbers are not accurate and won't be til end of the week.

Not to mention many will never be tested.

Clayton_Wetters
03-23-2020, 04:53 PM
The death rate will start going back up if the hospitals fill up.

You keep showing a desire for things to get worse. Why is that?

Clayton_Wetters
03-23-2020, 04:57 PM
United States death toll now at 573

So far this season, there have been 45 million flu illnesses, at least 300,000 hospitalizations, and up to 46,000 deaths from flu, of which more than 100 are pediatric--a higher total at this point of the year than any season in the past decade.

Where is the panic there??/

Barbecueboy
03-23-2020, 05:20 PM
So far this season, there have been 45 million flu illnesses, at least 300,000 hospitalizations, and up to 46,000 deaths from flu, of which more than 100 are pediatric--a higher total at this point of the year than any season in the past decade.

Where is the panic there??/

Because death from the flu is commonly accepted as normal these days.......sad still but accepted as normal.

mcarter815
03-23-2020, 05:21 PM
You keep showing a desire for things to get worse. Why is that?

You are projecting.

mcarter815
03-23-2020, 05:22 PM
So far this season, there have been 45 million flu illnesses, at least 300,000 hospitalizations, and up to 46,000 deaths from flu, of which more than 100 are pediatric--a higher total at this point of the year than any season in the past decade.

Where is the panic there??/

We are at the end of flu season. This new disease is just starting.

Barbecueboy
03-23-2020, 05:23 PM
You keep showing a desire for things to get worse. Why is that?

Because that will show everyone how bad trump really is.........he hopes america fails under trumps watch so he can say " I told you so".

Yeah, I know......it really is that stupid amongst those folks.

Barbecueboy
03-23-2020, 05:25 PM
We are at the end of flu season. This new disease is just starting.

Just starting????

Guessing you missed the whole China...Italy....Spain thing??

Clayton_Wetters
03-23-2020, 05:27 PM
Just starting????

Guessing you missed the whole China...Italy....Spain thing??

He's drooling over a disaster that will cause Trump to not be re-elected..... :)

Barbecueboy
03-23-2020, 05:27 PM
Dam mccarter yer dumb sometimes with some of the crap you say.

Barbecueboy
03-23-2020, 05:29 PM
He's drooling over a disaster that will cause Trump to not be re-elected..... :)

And guess what??? Even through this trump will still get re elected.....by a landslide.

They have nobody running that can beat him.

mcarter815
03-23-2020, 05:34 PM
Dam mccarter yer dumb sometimes with some of the crap you say.

I’m dumb? You can’t even spell my username correctly.

mcarter815
03-23-2020, 05:35 PM
Just starting????

Guessing you missed the whole China...Italy....Spain thing??

Yep, it’s still early on. We likely won’t see the peak for a few more months.

ZERO25
03-23-2020, 07:23 PM
Yep, you predicted 1.5% of Americans would die from this!

As of today, there are 33,000 confirmed cases and 400 deaths...…...its gonna take a few centuries to reach your number!

mcarter815
03-23-2020, 07:28 PM
Umm, what? I never said that 1.5% of Americans were going to die from this.

MasterSbilt_Racer
03-23-2020, 07:46 PM
We are on a pace of about 100k/week detected at this point. But, we are woefully short on tests.

Barbecueboy
03-23-2020, 09:19 PM
Is it dumber that I spelled it wrong or that you answered to it???

turnleftandgasit
03-23-2020, 11:09 PM
I just got an emergency utility locate for a local hospital. They are putting testing tents up in their parking lot. Maybe this will make people take it seriously.

powerslide
03-24-2020, 10:23 AM
I'm looking for all silver linings possible and this is good news since these majority of folks have much better odds of it not killing them.

I'm struggling to find my balance a little on this whole thing because now that that hysteria genie is out of the bottle it can't go back in and as serious of a matter as this is and as many lives as this will affect ( like a lot of death we can't seem to stop and lose loved ones too every single day) I can't help but look at the obvious hatred for the administration from most of the mainstream media and lay some very deserving hysteria blame at their feet for letting narrative and spitefulness get in the way of public interest ,patriotism and responsible accurate honest reporting.

When you have the attention of almost every human alive that can access any kind of media the reporting you do comes with a certain level of responsibility....it shouldn't in any way be used to incite .......anything.......ever.

And of the 155, 3 to 5 at the min will die. They are all younger but I can guarantee at least that many have some sort of previous health issue. Be it asthma, obesity or something else that happened at some point in life.

powerslide
03-24-2020, 10:26 AM
We all face the same fear, who is going to use the next atomic bomb? Well China, Russia, US, and other know you can't take over a country by blowing it up. Chemical, Biological Radiology are what will take out a country with out atomic warfare. All viruses are biological mutations that attack DNA in humans and plants. That is why every year we are hit with a different virus because the mutation changes and attacks cells differently. The problem is different countries are playing with viruses in a way to kill humans without destroying the land. This is what Power does to people, makes them evil and crazy. I don't trust any country nowadays, even the USA and the New World Order is right here in the good old U.S.A. Look at some of our government officials Schiff, Schumer, Pelosi, Nadler, Omar, AOC, and of courses Maxine Watters. I am sure some will put Pre. Trump in there but not me.

If a couple of those boomers on capital hill kick off from this virus some folks will start taking it more serious.

Barbecueboy
03-24-2020, 11:06 AM
Our enemies are watching this media fueled hysteria very closely.........don't think for a second they aren't.

gator 49
03-25-2020, 07:20 PM
This pandemic should give not only the government a wake up call but everyone. They sell survivor kits with different dehydrated foods. Get flashlights, batteries, radio, small propane stove, bottled water, first aid kit. It's never to late until it's to late. Don't forget toilet paper and a 5-gal bucket with lid. A generator and gas just in case there isn't any power. The next time it could be worse, just be better prepared.

TBSprintFan
03-26-2020, 01:48 AM
This pandemic should give not only the government a wake up call but everyone. They sell survivor kits with different dehydrated foods. Get flashlights, batteries, radio, small propane stove, bottled water, first aid kit. It's never to late until it's to late. Don't forget toilet paper and a 5-gal bucket with lid. A generator and gas just in case there isn't any power. The next time it could be worse, just be better prepared.

You are exactly right, It's always good to be prepared. It could be something like is happening now, ice storms where there is no power, etc..

Barbecueboy
03-26-2020, 07:23 AM
Anyone that lives along the coastlines of the US knows( or should) all too well how important it is to prepare....we update our kits and plans every year about this time.

ZERO25
03-26-2020, 07:37 PM
Anyone that lives along the coastlines of the US knows( or should) all too well how important it is to prepare....we update our kits and plans every year about this time.

Maybe, the rest of the world will find out what we go through 3 or 4 times a year! lol