Clash at the Mag

[TUTY]

Is racing always like last night? That was some of the worst racing I’ve ever seen. And I’ve changed my tune NO SUPPORT CLASSES or 1 limited to 20 cars. The track announcer is pretty cool, I fell a sleep for a half hour. These $5000 to win shows are a joke for the drivers also as WOO must have a lot more funding than Lucas. You wonder why Overton is running WOO tonight and tomorrow and is staying away from the Lucas races this weekend.

[Pennsboro32]

Feature highlights looked pretty dang good to me. The battle for second was great.

[tylerstorm]

I've seen WAY worse racing than last night. My biggest issue with last night was how SLOWLY everything went. Starting at 730? Over at 1130? Too long, especially on a Thursday.

[foxfire2dirtracing]

Tuty
Maybe you should just focus on NASCAR!

[dirtwriter]

you must have slept through the battle for 2nd in the feature as it was intense. Not sure which race you were watching

[foxfire2dirtracing]

His entire post was b——Ching!!

[NeedforLMspeed]

Maybe Overton isn't there because realistically thinking 3 days of racing, wear/tear and 8 hrs travel one way or 2 days of racing, wear/tear and like 3 hrs travel assuming they are coming from Kentucky. Total winnings there isn't a big difference between the two events.

[MontanaMagic1619*]

Yes, you're spot on, "boring" as all hell ! I paid for their internet coverage for every race and its not the great production they obviously think it is and for reasons such as their scoring monitor on Racepass going down in the middle of qualifying which might not have been their fault, their graphics dept. needs to understand that Spencer Hughes is there at the track ( NOT Austin Hubbard ), poor Spencer's name wasn't even acknowledged until feature time on the screen because he's running the 11H car.......and yes I know, knitpicky sh*t; but hey, the way their announcers brag up the fact they got 55 cars last night ( big deal ) and that (our) driver McCreadie won the Stream. there's times when I found myself turning down the sound and watching on " mute ". The one guy I do like listening to is Dave Arbogast in the pits, he's good at his job, and he understands where the action is with his camerman like when Moran had a flat tire early on. There's times when the Lucas announcers tries to poke little cracks at WoO but just remember guys " we're all in this together " because of the pandemic, and I'm just "grateful" that we still have a way to watch DLM racing without being there, which I personally miss. So cut out the digs, get the graphics dept on the stick, and quit trying to sugarcoat everything as a great race ( when it wasn't ). I wished just once an announcer would say " dam; that race wasn't all that exciting, but that 100 lapper on Saturday night promises to have action galore " These 25 lap races broken down like last night and tonight aren't cutting it with me personally, so I thank my lucky stars there's still Volunteer and Fairbury this weekend to watch. Competition with different series is always good for the soul if you're a HUGE DLM race fan like myself !

[foxfire2dirtracing]

If you think about the 25 mappers- that makes the feature on 15 laps more than the heat races or 13 laps more than the b-mains. I realize it only paid 5k to win - but a 25 lap race just don’t make sense to me.

[One Man Gang]

Maybe Overton isn't there because realistically thinking 3 days of racing, wear/tear and 8 hrs travel one way or 2 days of racing, wear/tear and like 3 hrs travel assuming they are coming from Kentucky. Total winnings there isn't a big difference between the two events.Just hearsay from the pit area but was told that Overton wanted to go to Mag but the car owners wanted to go to Volunteer.

[dirt crow]

The best thing about 25 lappers is it’s go time from start to finish. None of that saving my tires strategy.

[Rajflyboy]

Just hearsay from the pit area but was told that Overton wanted to go to Mag but the car owners wanted to go to Volunteer.Smart choice

[Pennsboro32]

Smart choice

Maybe not, looks like they just got a monsoon. Video on Rocket1 twitter account.

[Rajflyboy]

Scattered rain chances

[NorthAlabama]

I nap more at the Mag than any other track. When the black ice wins, passing stops and it is follow the leader. The flat high speed tracks puts me to sleep, I like high bank bull rings, more traffic.

[TerryM]

Some of you will b***h about anything. Last night’s show wasn’t bad at all. And the reason they do these prelim shows is because they’re a million times better than that crap with practice the first night, heats the second night and consy/feature only on night three. We get three full shows in three nights and you people still complain lol.

[Late_Model_Mark]

We have been shut down for months. we have so longed for racing, some states and tracks are shutdown still. We get to go back to racing now for just a little while and the complaining and sniveling starts in earnest. Some folks on this board will belly-ache if the won powerball and were paid in 20's. Appreciate this sport people, it is fragile and can be legislated to cease by the elected suits.


Late Model Mark
TST Announcer.

[MontanaMagic1619*]

For your information Terry, very, very seldom do I come on here and growl about anything, I'm lucky if I come on here a dozen times a year anymore, but I have an opinion and if you don't like it, that's tough sh*t ! I hate that format that u describe and always will. So laugh out loud at this

[TerryM]

For your information Terry, very, very seldom do I come on here and growl about anything, I'm lucky if I come on here a dozen times a year anymore, but I have an opinion and if you don't like it, that's tough sh*t ! I hate that format that u describe and always will. So laugh out loud at this
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen you complain like this, so it is surprising — especially considering last night wasn’t nearly as bad as some of the stuff we see occasionally.

[NorthAlabama]

The Mag started the several nightly races a couple years ago. They wanted the purse money to be divided more among the drivers than one winner take all. All the fans showed up on the Saturday Night feature race and not on the Friday split pre races/time trials, thus making the fans show up more nights to make more money. Think about it, you get a feature race every night.

[MontanaMagic1619*]

Well it is surprising, but I think if you're gonna' have this kind of format make it 40 laps the first two nights for 6K and then shorten the 100 lapper to 75 laps for 12K if laps is what is concerning to the drivers. Last night I didn't even get through one Corona beverage and the race was over, that's not what I call intriguing viewership whether I was there or not. Practically the same amount of money out with basically the same laps.

[NorthAlabama]

They also look at a payout per lap per how much money they are making. Some big races, the Mag does cut down a 100 lapper to less laps in the past. The trade off, they lose a few big boys who likes the one time bigger purse.

[TerryM]

Saturday night is the big show. These first two nights are just prelims. I’m just glad we get to see three full nights of racing — and a 100-lapper. This is exactly what fans have been begging these series to get back to. I’m thrilled with it.

[#FALSuperman]

Is that Chris Brown I see racing in Magnolia?
Been a hot minute since I've seen that guy in a late model.

[MontanaMagic1619*]

It sure is, the young man from Texas is back racing, I heard them say last night its been two years since he ran a Lucas Oil event. It's good to see him back.

[champion24]

feature time at 1 Eastern 12 Central. Hope it's a good one.

[MontanaMagic1619*]

1) Jimmy Owens 3) Josh Richards 3) Tyler Erb 4) Frank Heckenast 5) Michael Page 6) Shane Clanton 7) Tim McCreadie 8) Devin Moran 9) Jonathan Davenport 10) Bobby Pierce 11) Billy Moyer 12) Kyle Bronson 13) Joseph Joiner 14) Brian Rickman 15) Chris Brown 16) Spencer Hughes 17) Drew Armstrong 18) Kyle Beard 19) Neil Baggett 20) Morgan Bagley 21) Billy Moyer Jr 22) Devin Gilpin 23) Michael Arnold 24) Scott Dedwylder

[MontanaMagic1619*]

01) Jimmy Owens 2-1
02) Tyler Erb 5-3
03) Shane Clanton 4-6
04) Bobby Pierce 1-10
05) Josh Richards 10-2
06) Tim McCreadie 7-7
07) Billy Moyer 6-11
08) Michael Page 17-5
09) Jonathan Davenport 14-9
10) Kyle Bronson 12-12
11) Joseph Joiner 13-13
12) Devin Moran 21-8
13) Neil Baggett 11-19
14) Spencer Hughes 15-16
15) Drew Armstrong 18-17
16) Billy Moyer Jr 20-21
17) Michael Arnold 19-23
18) Scott Dedwylder 23-24
19) Ross Bailes 3
20) Frank Heckenast 4
21) Timothy Culp 8
22) Hudson O'Neal 9
23) Brian Rickman 14
24) Chris Brown 15
25) Shanon Buckingham 16
26) Kyle Beard 18
27) Morgan Bagley 20
28) Johnny Scott 22
29) Devin Gilpin 22
30) Rick Rickman 24

[pap]

Thanks Montana, I was looking for that kinda info. Looks like Joiner will be locked in tomorrow, oops tonight!!

[MontanaMagic1619*]

Yes, I've been impressed by this guy since I saw him Thursday night in his heat race PAP, and yes, looks good for him tonight.

[NorthAlabama]

Why did 212 Josh Putnam's 3rd finish (locked in the main) go to 4th finish Kyle Bronson in the heat race? DQ or give it up to let Bronson run for points? Then 212 Putnam ran con race in the back.

[One Man Gang]

Why did 212 Josh Putnam's 3rd finish (locked in the main) go to 4th finish Kyle Bronson in the heat race? DQ or give it up to let Bronson run for points? Then 212 Putnam ran con race in the back.
Bronson passed Putnam coming out of 4 on the final lap if I’m not mistaken

[NorthAlabama]

Dirt on dirt has 212 in the line up in the main. Bronson ran that position.

[TerryM]

We went to bed after the B mains. It sucks to watch for that long and still not see the feature. I even took a nap yesterday afternoon and still couldn’t hold on lol.

[TerryM]

What is the format for tonight?

[One Man Gang]

What is the format for tonight?
No qualifying and no heats I believe is what they said. Top 18 in points from Thursday & Friday are locked in and the rest will run in B mains tonight to round out the field.

[AllenK]

I sure hope Drew Armstrong from here in Arkansas can hang on and make the feature. He starts on the pole of a consi tonight. He's the brother-in-law of Kevin Swindell,and his Dad Charlie is great racer as well.

[TerryM]

They just gave the 10-minute call to staging for the 100-lapper at 8:45 local time. None of that 1:00am stuff tonight lol.

[TerryM]

I sure hope Drew Armstrong from here in Arkansas can hang on and make the feature. He starts on the pole of a consi tonight. He's the brother-in-law of Kevin Swindell,and his Dad Charlie is great racer as well.
He finished second in his B-main. He’s in the show.

[AllenK]

Thanks TerryM! I just saw it on FB right after I posted that. Lots of good cars didn't make the show or went home.

[Billy_the_kid]

Anybody giving updates tonight?

[champion24]

20,1e,25,32,39 lap 65ish

[#FALSuperman]

Owens
Erb
Clanton
Pierce
Mcreadie
Bronson
Richards
Page
Davenport
Moran

Slicked up as usual at The Mag

Top 10 pretty much the same since start.
38 laps to go

[Billy_the_kid]

Thanks guys

[Shiny Side Up 18]

Black ice ChooChoo.

[TerryM]

Every time they get into lap traffic it gets really good. And then the caution flag comes out. Ugh.

[wfofan]

Reworked the track at midnight for a dam half hour for a 5k to but did nothing at 830 for the main event...wtg genius...your race sucks...

[Shiny Side Up 18]

Owens led every lap. Locked down track.

Finish:

Ovens
Clanton
Richards
Pierce
Erb

[Billy_the_kid]

Reworked the track at midnight for a dam half hour for a 5k to but did nothing at 830 for the main event...wtg genius...your race sucks...Good assessment.

[Shiny Side Up 18]

Bob Dillner just called it a "great race".

Lol

[Pennsboro32]

Bob Dillner just called it a "great race".

Lol

He’s terrible.

[wfofan]

Whats up with Owen's jerking and twitching so much?

[TerryM]

Too many cautions. Could’ve been a lot better if it’d stayed green longer. Congrats to the O Show. He’s tough to beat when the other O Show isn’t in the house.

[wfofan]

Best commentators are best bull$hitters...make it sound like something you wish it was...lol

[Pennsboro32]

Whats up with Owen's jerking and twitching so much?

He’s always acted nervous in front of the camera IMO.

[TOPSIDE TIMMY 39FAN]

Whats up with Owen's jerking and twitching so much?


Hes been taking in the fumes while working on his tires

[intel8]

After seeing this race I remove this track from my bucket list!

[MontanaMagic1619*]

All you guys make me laugh, its a dammed thrill to read your reviews ! And yes, you're " all " right on too, no doubt about it ! Sorry Rick, I stole your line !

[dirt crow]

Was there last night. Last 3 100 lappers at Magnolia I have been to, racing early, rub up late. It’s a shame. Next year I’ll be spending my Clash at the Mag trip money elsewhere.

[dirt crow]

....anybody know if the 50/50 was claimed? I left and forgot I had tickets?

[TS FAN]

Owens didn't lead every lap/smile
Fake news LOL
Congrats to the O show

[racefan7]

For someone to come on here and bash a track is absolutely classless. Johnny Stokes pours every once of energy into this track and did everything he could do on track prep. Sometimes it just misses. If you want to come on here and gripe and moan don’t watch it on Lucas Oil TV or don’t pay the money to come. Friday night he works the track for 30 minutes to provide best possible surface and people complain on here then Saturday night he worked it for about 20 minutes and gave us great 70 laps of racing and people complain. Maybe your spot will be for a fan that loves the sport. The biggest crowd I have ever seen last night at the Mag. For 70 laps the racing was really good. Yes had some cautions toward to end and allowed cars to single file up and narrowed track. Last years race was phenomenal. It has been 90+++ degrees all week with zero rain. This track needs rain. Very difficult to water it enough. So my advice stay home, turn off computer, or do whatever you need to do not be so negative. Cannot stand negative people. For me thanks to Johnny Stokes and staff for such a well run event. Thanks to all the fans and racers for showing up.

[Billy_the_kid]

I actually didnt think the race was as bad as people made it sound.

[ZERO25]

For someone to come on here and bash a track is absolutely classless. Johnny Stokes pours every once of energy into this track and did everything he could do on track prep. Sometimes it just misses. If you want to come on here and gripe and moan don’t watch it on Lucas Oil TV or don’t pay the money to come. Friday night he works the track for 30 minutes to provide best possible surface and people complain on here then Saturday night he worked it for about 20 minutes and gave us great 70 laps of racing and people complain. Maybe your spot will be for a fan that loves the sport. The biggest crowd I have ever seen last night at the Mag. For 70 laps the racing was really good. Yes had some cautions toward to end and allowed cars to single file up and narrowed track. Last years race was phenomenal. It has been 90+++ degrees all week with zero rain. This track needs rain. Very difficult to water it enough. So my advice stay home, turn off computer, or do whatever you need to do not be so negative. Cannot stand negative people. For me thanks to Johnny Stokes and staff for such a well run event. Thanks to all the fans and racers for showing up.

Pretty fair assessment...….but Dr. Dirt missed it by 30 laps! Coulda been a great one!

[TS FAN]

Some people are never happy. Racing was just fine IMO

[Rajflyboy]

Some races are better than others and dirt is dirt and doesn’t always co operate. That’s part of what makes it exciting. Rain is also part of racing. Sometimes you just have a dialed in race car that is GONE. Look at Zach Mitchell last night. No one could touch him. It was his night.

[One Man Gang]

....anybody know if the 50/50 was claimed? I left and forgot I had tickets?
Yes a lady sitting on the very top row down toward turn 4 won it it was little over $700

[dirt crow]

Yes a lady sitting on the very top row down toward turn 4 won it it was little over $700

Ok. Thanks. ....my streak is still intact on 50/50’s. I’m 0 for bout 254. Lol

[wfofan]

All opinions matter... The race was boring due to lack of track prep...Ol Johnny boy did a great job @ midnight the night before... I'm guessing it was too early to prep on Saturday... If it takes lapped traffic (which held up the leader) to make a race interesting and you define that as a good race... Our opinions and views of racing are way off... Negativity and Reality don't always go hand in hand... Choo Choo races are waste of peoples time and money.. But I've said it many times, a so called race fan that likes to see cars go "round & round" are a promoters best friend... Criticism isn't personal, it's the view of a paying fan... So don't make me start a "Defund the 4M Police" post...

[One Man Gang]

All opinions matter... The race was boring due to lack of track prep...Ol Johnny boy did a great job @ midnight the night before... I'm guessing it was too early to prep on Saturday... If it takes lapped traffic (which held up the leader) to make a race interesting and you define that as a good race... Our opinions and views of racing are way off... Negativity and Reality don't always go hand in hand... Choo Choo races are waste of peoples time and money.. But I've said it many times, a so called race fan that likes to see cars go "round & round" are a promoters best friend... Criticism isn't personal, it's the view of a paying fan... So don't make me start a "Defund the 4M Police" post...
I was there all 3 nights and I’ve seen probably a hundred races at Magnolia and this weekend was definitely unlike it usually is. North Mississippi has been dry as a bone for about the last 3 weeks and I wonder if the lack of rain played a part. Track prep wasn’t the problem because worked his @ss off day and night and at night I mean after the race was over he was out there working. I don’t know what else he could have done because he threw everything he had at it. I’d bet he keeps working on it and when the Cotton Pickin’ 100 rolls around it’ll be a different outcome.

[Buford.Justice]

All opinions matter... The race was boring due to lack of track prep...Ol Johnny boy did a great job @ midnight the night before... I'm guessing it was too early to prep on Saturday... If it takes lapped traffic (which held up the leader) to make a race interesting and you define that as a good race... Our opinions and views of racing are way off... Negativity and Reality don't always go hand in hand... Choo Choo races are waste of peoples time and money.. But I've said it many times, a so called race fan that likes to see cars go "round & round" are a promoters best friend... Criticism isn't personal, it's the view of a paying fan... So don't make me start a "Defund the 4M Police" post...

Lapped traffic has saved many poorly prepped tracks from being exposed for what they really are.

[Barbecueboy]

Its still on my bucket list.....was cool to have Thursday Friday Saturday racing to watch.