Kyle Larson at DTWC

[TeNfOMaFiA69]

Kyle is slated to drive a Super Late Model at the DTWC (If it happens) at Portsmouth in October... but I heard from a Very reliable source tonight that it’s not for that team from Mooresburg TN like everyone thinks....

Heard he will be “Horns Up”....

[HIGH ROLLER]

☝️☝️you are correct ☝️☝️

[BloomerWon]

☝️☝️you are correct ☝️☝️

You don't know!! 😶

[HIGH ROLLER]

You don't know!! 

The jokes on you! 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤫🤫🤫🤫

[dirtcrazy4u]

Well he better be horns up and go get some seat time somewhere. Taxi cabs don't react like a fighter jet. I'd like to see him be competitive. Crew chief will be critical.

[kazual]

dirtcrazy4u, think you have a valid point. Larson has put on an incredible show in Midwest sprint events these last few weeks and we know he can wheel a midget. Watched several on Flo and his ability to make spur of the moment moves and take higher levels of risk have been evident. Those same moves may not work as well in late models. Hope he gets the chance, it would be good for short track dirt racing.

[TeNfOMaFiA69]

dirtcrazy4u, think you have a valid point. Larson has put on an incredible show in Midwest sprint events these last few weeks and we know he can wheel a midget. Watched several on Flo and his ability to make spur of the moment moves and take higher levels of risk have been evident. Those same moves may not work as well in late models. Hope he gets the chance, it would be good for short track dirt racing.

95% certain he is going to have a few test sessions prior

[Dlmfan123]

If they have a world finals. Would be cool to see him try and run a couple Classes

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Give the guy 25 laps and he'd be good to go. He's one of the best in the world. He'd be racing racers who happen to drive DLM.

[CIRF]

Larson will bring a blend of extraordinary talent and universal star power to dirt late model racing. That is a good thing. His participation will bring a huge increase of interest in this event. Hopefully the result at least somewhat matches the hype.

If Larson's past success of being a quick study in virtually everything he's raced is any indication he should be relatively fast in a short time. But as we all know, all of his talent, skill and bravery will not mean much without a good quality dirt late model racecar under him and knowledgeable dirt late model people turning wrenches and advising him in his pit area.

The earlier contrast made between taxi cabs and fighter planes is an interesting one. And in this case a relatively accurate one! LOL!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Larson will bring a blend of extraordinary talent and universal star power to dirt late model racing. That is a good thing. His participation will bring a huge increase of interest in this event Hopefully the result at least somewhat matches the hype.

If Larson's past success of being a quick study in virtually everything he's raced is any indication he should be relatively fast in a short time. But as we all know, all of his talent, skill and bravery will not mean much without a good quality dirt late model racecar under him and knowledgeable dirt late model people turning wrenches and advising him in his pit area.

The earlier contrast made between taxi cabs and fighter planes is an interesting one. And in this case a relatively accurate one! LOL!

Fighter planes are known for their ability to change direction. DLM are far better at that than a Sprint car.

[CIRF]

Fighter planes are known for their ability to change direction. DLM are far better at that than a Sprint car.

No doubt you have vast experience driving both, so we can believe you explicitly, right Adolph! LOL!

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

No doubt you have vast experience driving both, so we can believe you explicitly, right Adolph! LOL!

Anyone with common sense can look at the suspension and tires and tell the difference. A Sprint is driven with the back wheels. That's is all it has. And a beam axle front suspension. Smh

[CIRF]

Anyone with common sense can look at the suspension and tires and tell the difference. A Sprint is driven with the back wheels. That's is all it has. And a beam axle front suspension. SmhShake your head harder, Adolph, we can't hear it rattlin' yet! LOL!

Common sense ya' say, Adolph? Try this.............

In regards to sprint cars being driven with the back wheels, that is true thus we mere mortals can accurately assume proper driver throttle control talent would generally be needed in larger quantities to keep them on a fast and safe trajectory. Probably more so in the midgets and wingless versions, than those with wings. That is why the midgets and wingless versions are my personal preferences among the open wheel categories.

All I have for a frame of reference is having watched literally hundreds of heat races and A-mains of both late model and sprint & midget divisions. If you gained your infinite wisdom from thousands of laps racing all three then I must digress.

Even with my no drive ass planted on a bleacher seat 100 foot from the track I can see beyond any doubt that 1000 lb. midgets with 400+ HP and 1300 to 1400 lb. sprint cars with 900+ HP are much more responsive to driver input, more agile and nimble than a 2400 lb. late model. I'm pretty sure that's what dirtcrazy4u meant by the taxi cab/pizza delivery cars vs. midgets and sprint cars analogy.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Shake your head harder, Adolph, we can't hear it rattlin' yet! LOL!

Common sense ya' say, Adolph? Try this.............

In regards to sprint cars being driven with the back wheels, that is true thus we mere mortals can accurately assume proper driver throttle control talent would generally be needed in larger quantities to keep them on a fast and safe trajectory. Probably more so in the midgets and wingless versions, than those with wings. That is why the midgets and wingless versions are my personal preferences among the open wheel categories.

All I have for a frame of reference is having watched literally hundreds of heat races and A-mains of both late model and sprint & midget divisions. If you gained your infinite wisdom from thousands of laps racing all three then I must digress.

Even with my no drive ass planted on a bleacher seat 100 foot from the track I can see beyond any doubt that 1000 lb. midgets with 400+ HP and 1300 to 1400 lb. sprint cars with 900+ HP are much more responsive to driver input, more agile and nimble than a 2400 lb. late model. I'm pretty sure that's what dirtcrazy4u meant by the taxi cab/pizza delivery cars vs. midgets and sprint cars analogy.

Response and redirection are two totally different things. Way to change the argument.

[TeNfOMaFiA69]

Why does any post that involves Sprint cars or Kyle turn into a sh1tfest? CIRF just stop it! We know you are a open wheel junkie. But you continuously bash people left and right when they are a little off your elitist sprint car agenda... this post was simply about a Kyle driving a Longhorn at the DTWC... give it a rest

[NeedforLMspeed]

Why does any post that involves Sprint cars or Kyle turn into a sh1tfest? CIRF just stop it! We know you are a open wheel junkie. But you continuously bash people left and right when they are a little off your elitist sprint car agenda... this post was simply about a Kyle driving a Longhorn at the DTWC... give it a rest

Something we finally agree on. Bravo!!!

[lurker]

As the titled subject matter is about Kyle driving a DLM at the DTWC, the following is nothing more than my opinion.

Knowing this sub-debate is an old one with me, going back 20 to 30 some plus years on karting message boards and forums --- to me it’s the transitioning from one form thereof to another as is pertains to race craft of the specific discipline where things go wonky. Track surfaces aside for non-arguments on this. I can use examples of non-conforming or non-transitioning drivers that I have personally witnessed over the years. As well, I can example some that have conformed from one discipline, transitioning with successfulness to another.

One prime example would be Scott Speed. He could not hone his race craft discipline from karts --- to F1, ARCA, or Cup. He was simply a good kart racer, period.

One example would be Josef Newgarden. He did hone his race craft from karts, to Formula Ford, to Indy cars.

Jonathan Beason transitioned well from asphalt karts to dirt midgets. As did T-Mac from Dirt Modifies, to Midgets on to DLM’s

I could list pro and con on this subject for hours, as I do not think we have one right answer or one wrong answer. What I do think is, its all about the drivers race craft and his or her willingness to hone it. Currently thinking about Hailie Deegan from Pro Trucks to ARCA, and on to Cup. Wondering if she will hone her race craft.

Anyway ---

Having watched Kyle turn a lot of laps on dirt, (maybe watched more than CIRF, I don’t know) in Midgets, NW sprints, and Wing sprints --- and knowing the specific race craft discipline of all three is somewhat, well, very different -


---- and his ability to make spur of the moment moves and take higher levels of risk have been evident. Those same moves may not work as well in late models.
Taxi cabs don't react like a fighter jet.

Correct IMHO, LM’s are slow a sloppy in comparison to WS and NWS that are fast and agile.


Give the guy 25 laps and he'd be good to go.

So you are thinking the race craft devolved from him driving Midgets, NW sprints, Wing sprints and Cup cars will transition directly and immediately to him driving a DLM in 25 laps? I’m not so sure, but it would be cool if it happens.

[HIGH ROLLER]

Aftet kyle test we will see how he does in race form. He will be in good hands all the way around!

[Mod Runner]

Do we know for certain that Kyle L will be in a Longhorn Chassis ?

[Rocky]

Kyle Larson is maybe the best driver that I've ever seen in a sprint car in person in my life. Or at least has the potential to be. He's not even a top 50 stock car driver on my list not saying that he never could be, he's not even in his prime yet. He's not gonna jump in a DLM and stomp these guys in his first race which will be the biggest race of the year, with the best competition. He'll run good probably put it in the show, he'll be fast but how will he race?

Late models aren't exactly 3600 lb Hobby Stocks with worn out 307 motors that have 16 bent pushrods out of the 72 Chevy farm truck from behind the barn like the sprint car guys will tell you they are though. They're fast, tons of power, practically no right rear tire compared to a sprint and demand good throttle control. Which is basically what Larson needs in order to be fast. I think he'd suck in a Crate late. He really struggled with NASCAR's new no horsepower package. He'll get out and say "it's kind of like a silver crown car" That's my bet.

[TeNfOMaFiA69]

Do we know for certain that Kyle L will be in a Longhorn Chassis ?

Done deal.... all you have to do is look up where KLR’s shop is

[Pennsboro32]

Portsmouth closed until further notice due to Scioto County being level
3.

[CILDirt]

Where is the KLR shop?

[NeedforLMspeed]

If I had to guess would it be the KL Rumley #6???

[dirtcrazy4u]

Portsmouth. Closed. Will they move the DTWC ? I say it will be at Lucas Oil Speedway. I really don't feel your going to see eldora open this year either.

[Highside Hustler25]

portsmouth. Closed. Will they move the dtwc ? I say it will be at lucas oil speedway. I really don't feel your going to see eldora open this year either.
macon🤪😝🤗...

[Pennsboro32]

Portsmouth. Closed. Will they move the DTWC ? I say it will be at Lucas Oil Speedway. I really don't feel your going to see eldora open this year either.

Bring it back to West By God. Country roads!

[Rocky]

Bring it back to West By God. Country roads!

Have it at Pennsboro.... I know, it's not possible. 2020 is the year of the impossible though so why not. Somebody can stick a culvert in the backstretch. Of course there's bigger reasons it's not possible than that though.

[GottaGoFast]

I can give 6 reasons KL will be at the DTWC. 🤪

[reddyfreddy]

I agree with Highside 25. But lets run a 200 lapper at Macon

[racerx99]

Donny Schatz..seems to be having fun running a latemodel when he can. He was the second highest mover in the caution free WoO LM 50 lapper Saturday nite up north. (not comparing these two guys at all---him yung money & brad sweet had a hellava race the other nite) Not a open wheel junkie I'm a race junkie..I'll go watch two wheelbarrows race. Think it will be good for latemodels & YM for him to start racing LMs now, lottsa big races coming up...What the next 5 weeks 20K or better....Lawrenceburg is the place for the DTWC!!! Its kinda central, hotels not far...it can take some bad weather and not be a soggy mess. Dave Rudecel(?) are you listening!!!!

[HIGH ROLLER]

Looks like kyle was cherrie pickn again tonight. This guys on a tear. Won woo $50k show tonight. Congrats to them. We'll see what he does in the #6 longhorn car soon