Opinion fines or time off?

[crownman25]

WHATS EVERYONES OPINNION BIG FINES OR TIME OFF?A huge fine might make drivers think before the do things,Money is very hard to get.....

[dirtSLMracing]

Well absolutely no one will agree with me but I dont see anything to fine or suspend over. Tyler didnt try to run over the track official, he was trying to get away from Bob. Bobby dumping Tyler happens in racing.. Tyler getting mad and retaliating happens. Both were DQ'ed from the race. I'd put Tyler on probation till end of the year, any further aggressive behavior will result in a fine or suspension

[BTExpress]

Maybe I am old school but unfortunately I think there should be a combination of both. After watching the replay several times, I am more concerned with Bob Pierce coming onto the track, especially after the Tony Stewart incident. However, since neither driver is a WoO regular, I am not sure what the punishment should be?

[NeedforLMspeed]

What's putting him on probation until the end of the year going to do if they don't run hardly any WoO events anyway. WoO doesn't have any more big events coming up and most dates compete with Lucas. Or WoO is off on the big Lucas events. Only thing would be World finals but that doesn't pay chit anyway and might not even happen.

[JabberJaws83]

I think there will be something done to both. I think Tyler will probably get a small suspension, Bobby I'm not sure. When ever something goes down with your crew, it's always been the drivers responsibility. So, I do think Bobby should receive some kind of penalty.

[GEAR_HEAD]

How about stop being a bunch of pansies and just let it go. When Bloomer and Freddy Smith had had a similar altercation at WVMS years ago there wasn't a 10 page thread on 4M about fines and suspensions. The only person that needs disciplined is Bob Pierce. If any other spectator had pulled what he pulled they would have been banned and arrested. The WOO official shouldn't have been on the track either, WRG should take action against him as well. Rivalries in racing are a good thing. Let it play out.

[JabberJaws83]

How about stop being a bunch of pansies and just let it go. When Bloomer and Freddy Smith had had a similar altercation at WVMS years ago there wasn't a 10 page thread on 4M about fines and suspensions. The only person that needs disciplined is Bob Pierce. If any other spectator had pulled what he pulled they would have been banned and arrested. The WOO official shouldn't have been on the track either, WRG should take action against him as well. Rivalries in racing are a good thing. Let it play out.

Great post and wouldn't argue with any of that.

[crownman25]

turbo word of advice never head the wrong direction on race track always go same direction if your gonna nail someone and make it look good.I CAN SAY THIS HE COULD HAVE WENT FASTER AND HIT BOBBY BUT HE DID STOP FIRST...

[crownman25]

I think your right gear head lets race!!!!!!

[weatherman85]

I think Bob should be banned from attending a number of events. Running out onto the track just cannot be tolerated anymore since the Stewart incident. Bobby didn't do anything wrong and actually tried to avoid the altercation so I don't believe he should suffer any penalty. A fine of some sorts (If anything) for Erb for using his car as a weapon. I'd totally let this slide had he not been driving in the opposite direction at some speed.

[dirt crow]

Turbo should get key to the city by the mayor and a t bone steak

[BloomerWon]

Bobby needs to be benched for a while. How many time has he dumped or slammed others into the wall before? How long before he gets himself or sombody hurt? There are many drivers out there wanting to do what t erb did but aren't dumb enough to do it. This will happen again if Bobby is left to do as he pleases on the track. Fine him and put him in time out as well as t erb and old bob...

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

What's putting him on probation until the end of the year going to do if they don't run hardly any WoO events anyway. WoO doesn't have any more big events coming up and most dates compete with Lucas. Or WoO is off on the big Lucas events. Only thing would be World finals but that doesn't pay chit anyway and might not even happen.

Woo is WRG. It could affect a World 100 replacement event.

[WildBill32]

Turbo should get key to the city by the mayor and a t bone steakThe only thing Turbo is going to get is fines and suspensions. Wait for it... Woo will be giving them out sometime today.

[BloomerWon]

I think Bob should be banned from attending a number of events. Running out onto the track just cannot be tolerated anymore since the Stewart incident. Bobby didn't do anything wrong and actually tried to avoid the altercation so I don't believe he should suffer any penalty. A fine of some sorts (If anything) for Erb for using his car as a weapon. I'd totally let this slide had he not been driving in the opposite direction at some speed.lmao! Bobby started this mess. Bob escalated it. Same old song and dance from the Bobby bunch. Had mom and sis been near by they to would have jumped onto the track and into Erb's window. This has gone on too long... get it right...

[smoothoperator32]

I think everyone should let 4m take care of it

[BloomerWon]

I think everyone should let 4m take care of it
Take care of what? You admitting bobby needs disciplinary action? Great!

[JabberJaws83]

Woo is WRG. It could affect a World 100 replacement event.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[dgersh22]

To look at it another way everyone is saying that Bob Pierce (old man) and the Pierce racing team should be penalized for coming out on the track. If you are saying that then shouldn't the Gundakers be penalized for coming out on the track when Gordy got flipped on Friday night. Both happened during red light situations, all be it for different reasons, but it could have escalated into something different especially due to the nature of the wreck (contact with another car). If you want to insure complete safety and you bring up the Stewart incident then only track personnel should be on the track at any time.

[smoothoperator32]

Take care of what? You admitting bobby needs disciplinary action? Great!

Erb does for sure

[BloomerWon]

To look at it another way everyone is saying that Bob Pierce (old man) and the Pierce racing team should be penalized for coming out on the track. If you are saying that then shouldn't the Gundakers be penalized for coming out on the track when Gordy got flipped on Friday night. Both happened during red light situations, all be it for different reasons, but it could have escalated into something different especially due to the nature of the wreck (contact with another car). If you want to insure complete safety and you bring up the Stewart incident then only track personnel should be on the track at any time.

Correct, it makes perfect sence right? This should go without asking!

[BloomerWon]

Only reason old bob was on the track was to get t erb! He sure as hell ain't worried about his car or kid!!

[Barbecueboy]

Erb does for sure

And they wonder why?

[BloomerWon]

And they wonder why?

Lol, never fails does it. The bobby bunch and their wwe mentality will never change...

[BloomerWon]

Take care of what? You admitting bobby needs disciplinary action? Great!


Erb does for sure

You fell right into that one... 😉

[CILDirt]

They will come down hard on Erb. Probably a lengthy suspension from WRG events and a hefty fine. Pierce will get off with a slap on the wrist. WRG has a lot of tickets to sell with the second round of Summer Nationals starting this week. They want the Pierce clan there.

[BloomerWon]

This is just the start of t erb vs bobby bs if they both don't get a stiff penalty now cause later there will be cops dragged into it as there has been for the bobby bunch and the sport don't need that kind of attention.

[NeedforLMspeed]

WRG has a lot of tickets to sell with the second round of Summer Nationals starting this week. They want the Pierce clan there.

How do they have alot if tickets to sell. Aren't tracks suppose to be limited capacity? And aren't they going to Florence? So that'll take up like 6-7 days of SN.

[Highside Hustler25]

To look at it another way everyone is saying that Bob Pierce (old man) and the Pierce racing team should be penalized for coming out on the track. If you are saying that then shouldn't the Gundakers be penalized for coming out on the track when Gordy got flipped on Friday night. Both happened during red light situations, all be it for different reasons, but it could have escalated into something different especially due to the nature of the wreck (contact with another car). If you want to insure complete safety and you bring up the Stewart incident then only track personnel should be on the track at any time.

Good observation. I'd call it double standard. No big deal till it's someone you don't like.

[BloomerWon]

Good observation. I'd call it double standard. No big deal till it's someone you don't like.

You sure have a sihtty outlook on some folks round here... 😎

[GEAR_HEAD]

To look at it another way everyone is saying that Bob Pierce (old man) and the Pierce racing team should be penalized for coming out on the track. If you are saying that then shouldn't the Gundakers be penalized for coming out on the track when Gordy got flipped on Friday night. Both happened during red light situations, all be it for different reasons, but it could have escalated into something different especially due to the nature of the wreck (contact with another car). If you want to insure complete safety and you bring up the Stewart incident then only track personnel should be on the track at any time.

Was Bobby potentially injured? Did the Gundakers start throwing punches at Gordy's head when they ran into the track? Terrible comparison.

[Barbecueboy]

They will come down hard on Erb. Probably a lengthy suspension from WRG events and a hefty fine. Pierce will get off with a slap on the wrist. WRG has a lot of tickets to sell with the second round of Summer Nationals starting this week. They want the Pierce clan there.

You spelled clowns wrong.

[Highside Hustler25]

You sure have a sihtty outlook on some folks round here... 

No, not really. Everybody's opinion counts. That's the beauty of it.🙃

[JimBo]

How about stop being a bunch of pansies and just let it go. When Bloomer and Freddy Smith had had a similar altercation at WVMS years ago there wasn't a 10 page thread on 4M about fines and suspensions. The only person that needs disciplined is Bob Pierce. If any other spectator had pulled what he pulled they would have been banned and arrested. The WOO official shouldn't have been on the track either, WRG should take action against him as well. Rivalries in racing are a good thing. Let it play out.

I agree with Gear Head 100% but I do not think this is how it will go down.

[fryefan]

They will come down hard on Erb. Probably a lengthy suspension from WRG events and a hefty fine. Pierce will get off with a slap on the wrist. WRG has a lot of tickets to sell with the second round of Summer Nationals starting this week. They want the Pierce clan there.

I agree with this assessment. Tyler Erb definitely earned what ever penalties come his way (deserves both a suspension and a fine). Also, Bob Pierce will probably be penalized for coming onto the track.

[Rajflyboy]

2 short a full load if you run out on track with that stuff going on.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Was Bobby potentially injured? Did the Gundakers start throwing punches at Gordy's head when they ran into the track? Terrible comparison.

Crew never belong on the track for any reason. Doesn't matter if their car is upside down or there is an alien landing.

[dirtshooter]

What's putting him on probation until the end of the year going to do if they don't run hardly any WoO events anyway. WoO doesn't have any more big events coming up and most dates compete with Lucas. Or WoO is off on the big Lucas events. Only thing would be World finals but that doesn't pay chit anyway and might not even happen. The finals are still are a go. No decision on fans attending yet. The pits are plenty big for social distancing.

[Jet Jockey]

Double secret probation for Erb til the end of the year. No sanctions against Bobby Pierce. Bob Pierce suspended from the pits til the end of the year. The era of people coming onto the track has to end.

[ride height]

Crew (or parents) going out on the track to confront is a definate punishable offense. That’s just plain dangerous. In this case everyone has a part in it. Hated to see the official dragged to the ground. People jumping on the official on here....we don’t know what was said or what his actions were other than clearly trying to get Bob Sr. Out of ErbS window. Maybe the official added to the problem, maybe not. they just cant stand there and let the $hitstorm build further. The crew member (dad) going onto the track and into the Erb car window was the biggest infraction.

[Barbecueboy]

Most will agree with you......many in oakwood will not see it that way.