Which service should I subscribe to?

[AnnouncerLife88]

Trying to decide which streaming service to subscribe to for 2021, can only do one (per the wife). This year I did DirtVision and while it was cool to get the Sprint Cars my heart is still in being a Late Model fan so I only got the WoO Late Model shows.

Lucas Oil's deal seems to be the cheapest and with them streaming all the Lucas races in 2021 I'm leaning toward them but would still be open to the idea of Flo.

What do you guys think? Go with Lucas, do Flo instead or do DirtVision? Main concern is just getting to see the most late model racing for the best price.

Thanks

[Rajflyboy]

If you like to also see paved short track also consider Speed 51. They have a lot to offer for dirt and paved.

[In The Gas]

I highly recommend you subscribe to Dirt on Dirt. You get to see a lot of Dirt Late Model racing, news, race team updates, and see Late Models and Sprint cars on Flo cause it is a package deal. You may not get to see Woo or Lucas Late Models live but you can get up in the morning the next day, get you some coffee and watch it like it was happening real time. Shortened a little but still great if you don’t know the results. I love DoD and had it for several years. Another bonus is Eldora races are on Flo.

[shaferz]

IMO, Flo is the best deal out there currently with the content they offer. We do subscribe to Lucas Oil Racing TV as well. Cancelled DirtVision about a year ago - loved seeing the DLM racing, but $40/month was out of control.

I think we ordered maybe 2 PPV's on DirtVision in the past 12 months.

[Pennsboro32]

Can't go wrong with Flo, also like LucasOil. DirtVision would be a distant third IMO.

[BirkyTime15B]

Flo is god, Lucas Oil will have all races streamed on their platform, I love dirt vision for WoO Lates and Sprints, they also have ALL UMP Summernational races. So during summer DirtVision is really good for June and July

[riddle28]

you cant go wrong with either but ill say flo just because they cover everything

[TBSprintFan]

I would tell my wife that I would cancel DirtVision at $480. + per year and then get Lucas Oil Racing TV at $100. (I myself am grandfathered in at $60. since I was a subscriber from the beginning and it's been well worth it from the start And is only getting better since next year they will cover every Lucas Oil Late Model race) and DoD/Flo Racing at $150. Those 2 would cost you $250./year and would save you and your wife $230. + per year.

[TDRacin®]

As just a DLM fan-only, it's a tough decision. If you were just a fan of WoO LM's or Lucas Oil, it's a little easier, but even then you will be missing out on some big and popular races each year. OTOH, Flo pretty much covers every single other race in the US! lol

I'm a DLM fan first, but living close to the Central PA tracks and going often, I find myself enjoying sprint car shows more and more over most LM shows. It helps that it's the best weekly shows in the country, but more times than not LM shows run on tracks that can't hold up to them. Not to mention traffic with sprint cars and you then have an entirely different race.

Here's my pros and cons of each broadcaster-

World of Outlaws-

Pros- EVERY WoO race with the exception of Cedar Lake Nationals and Knoxville Nationals. ALL Summer National races. Weekly racing at Williams Grove, Knoxville, Attica and Lernerville. They finally have a cell phone app! Many races for each series with some midweek shows. And they do offer a free section that I believe all races go to eventually, albeit weeks behind at times. Aussie content as well over the winter.

Cons- Most expensive option out of all broadcasters. Charging $40 every 28 days is about four times more expensive than any other. No Chromecast option. No rewind function during streams.

Lucas Oil Racing TV-

Pros- Covering EVERY race starting next season. Usually a far superior broadcast quality than any other. They have the rights to the C, B and A main at the Chili Bowl. That is worth the price of admission alone! ;) They are also good at uploading replays pretty quickly and usually break the down by hot laps/qualifying, heats and feature. Not only do they cover the LOLMDS, they broadcast a number of ASCS throughout the season. Great apps for pretty much all platforms, sans Apple currently.

Cons-

Limited content. They have been known to have some broadcasting technical issues at times, though it doesn't always affect everyone.

Flo Racing/Dirt on Dirt-

Pros-

They cover every other race pretty much in the country! Weekly shows at Port Royal, Lincoln (PA), Cedar Lake, among numerous others and every non-WoO shows at Eldora, all three divisions of USAC and many regional series for LM's. They are also the exclusive broadcaster for the All Stars Circuit of Sprints. On any given night one can have their choice of up to 15 (or more) races, starting at 6pm and going until 3 in the morning (or later sometimes!). Aussie content over the winter too! For $150 and the amount of content they provide, they are the leader in dirt racing coverage! It's better to signup via Dirt on Dirt because you then get Flo. Currently this is not the case if you signup via Flo.

Cons-

They don't have WoO or Lucas Oil races.

there are other broadcasters out there like Speed51, National Speed Sport News, etc., but they cater more to one-off events than appealing to monthly or yearly subscribers.

I'll add, what TBSprintFan said above is a great compromise! You can watch the WoO events a week or so later and not miss anything all the while saving LOTS of money! I think WoO is going to be under a lot of pressure to adjust their pricing with the competition that is out there. That can only be good for all of us!

[Moranfan99]

In my opinion if you have a favorite driver then subscribe to the service that lest you watch that driver the most. If no favorite then Dirt on dirt is the best option.

[Tireguy17]

As others have said, its going to depend on what you want to watch. With LORTV covering every Lucas race in 2021, that $100 is the absolute best bang for the buck in terms of watching a national late model series.

[JimBo]

I would tell my wife that I would cancel DirtVision at $480. + per year and then get Lucas Oil Racing TV at $100. (I myself am grandfathered in at $60. since I was a subscriber from the beginning and it's been well worth it from the start And is only getting better since next year they will cover every Lucas Oil Late Model race) and DoD/Flo Racing at $150. Those 2 would cost you $250./year and would save you and your wife $230. + per year.

TBSprintFan nails it. This is what I do and it is well worth it! Be sure and subscribe to Dirt on Dirt so Flo is included at no additional cost.

[Rajflyboy]

A lot of great information here. I still haven’t decided which way to go in 2021 but I’m personally into paved track as well (not nearly as much as dirt though)(I’d like to see 5 flags and Winchester occasionally and a few other paved track events).

[riddle28]

im a lucas snob but my biggest issue with them is their app doesnt work with iOS and like posted above they have technical issues sometimes

[kazual]

The replay capability and reasonable cost is a positive with FLO. Am not a sprint fan thru the years but non-wing sprints and midgets provide the most competitive dirt racing there is at present IMO. Wing cars, not so much. I’d look for the sub rate to go up in the not too distant future, hope I'm wrong.

[CIRF]

kasual pretty much summed it up.

For shear quantity Flo is by far the best value but that is only the case if you enjoy disciplines of racing other than dirt late models. We have had LORTV since the beginning and for $60.00 it's a no brainer. It's worth twice that much for the dirt late model programing alone.

We've also been a FloRacing subscriber from from the very beginning and it was worth the $150.00 even when it was just USAC programing. Heck, we could have watched 2 or 3 events at Fairbury this year, but of course we were in the stands. It's always a plus to be able to watch the replay even when we've attended the event in question. Since they've added a bunch of late model programing and Eldora it puts Flo in a class by itself.

$250 for LORTV and Flo is a very good value. Nothing is perfect and those two providers are no exception but between the two of them they probably have the most programing for dirt late model fans.

[TUTY]

Lucas Oil Racing TV is great value for your buck. I also do DirtVision but only buy maybe 4 months as it’s easy to cancel and restart up when ever you want. Can’t beat have two TV’s watching Late Models and Sprints at the same time.

[Highside Hustler25]

im a lucas snob but my biggest issue with them is their app doesnt work with iOS and like posted above they have technical issues sometimes

I'm a Lucas snub. My issue with them is pert near every race Nation wide is timed with RaceMonitor Timing. lucas went there own direction with their timing app. I don't need two of them.
Used to watch great replays of lucas racing on DoD till lucas reduced the size of the replays to a handful of laps.
Now they want to have their exclusive site for lucas events.
Sorry, I'm a lil biased here but I'll take Flo with there abundant supply of racing over Forest's lucas events. There is more to racing then the lucas oil series. But if yer a stargazer and only there to see the big dogs, lucas might be for you.

[Tireguy17]

I'm a Lucas snub. My issue with them is pert near every race Nation wide is timed with RaceMonitor Timing. lucas went there own direction with their timing app. I don't need two of them.
Used to watch great replays of lucas racing on DoD till lucas reduced the size of the replays to a handful of laps.
Now they want to have their exclusive site for lucas events.
Sorry, I'm a lil biased here but I'll take Flo with there abundant supply of racing over Forest's lucas events. There is more to racing then the lucas oil series. But if yer a stargazer and only there to see the big dogs, lucas might be for you.

MyRacePass kicks the crap out of Race Monitor for lineups, results and live timing and scoring. Its so user friendly. Especially considering lineups and results are FREE, only need to pay 1 $5-6 fee to have live timing and scoring for every event MRP covers. Every track up here in Wissota and Cedar Lake uses MRP.

[Highside Hustler25]

Maybe depends on your area but Race Monitor covers pretty much every race in my area except when lucas comes to town. RM was $5 as well. Free on a home devise. Sounds like MRP is the best route for you in the Wi. area.
I'm just saying, if you salivate over the lucas series, LRTV would be the way to go. Me personally prefer the wide variety of racing that Flo offers along with DoD's excellent coverage of dirt late models.

plus, you don't get DSuave on LRTV.lol

[HoosierDirtFan]

I subscribe to all of them except Speed 51 - DirtVision, Dirt On Dirt / Flo Racing, Lucas Oil Racing Tv.
I don't really have any problems with buffering and re-loading on any of the streaming services.
I like Dirt Vision Because of the amount of racing they do carry but I think the $40 a month could go down by $5-$7 a month and they might get more people to come subscribe with them.
I wish they had a yearly subscription like other services.
Flo Racing is Probably the best bang for you buck.

[Dirt Reynolds]

Trying to decide which streaming service to subscribe to for 2021, can only do one (per the wife). This year I did DirtVision and while it was cool to get the Sprint Cars my heart is still in being a Late Model fan so I only got the WoO Late Model shows.

Lucas Oil's deal seems to be the cheapest and with them streaming all the Lucas races in 2021 I'm leaning toward them but would still be open to the idea of Flo.

What do you guys think? Go with Lucas, do Flo instead or do DirtVision? Main concern is just getting to see the most late model racing for the best price.

Thanks

If you did Dirtvision for a year ($468.00) there is no reason, your wife shouldn't let you get FloRacing and LucasOilRacingTV next year.

FloRacing = $150.00/year
LucasOilRacingTV= $99.99/year

FloRacing is DirtonDirt + Eldora Stream Races (DREAM + World 100) (TONS of races)
LucasOilRacingTV is showing ALL races next year on Stream = 47 Races?

I have all of them, and only get DirtVision during the Summernationals (2 months) @ $39/mo

[Mister Ricochet]

If you did Dirtvision for a year ($468.00) there is no reason, your wife shouldn't let you get FloRacing and LucasOilRacingTV next year.

FloRacing = $150.00/year
LucasOilRacingTV= $99.99/year

FloRacing is DirtonDirt + Eldora Stream Races (DREAM + World 100) (TONS of races)
LucasOilRacingTV is showing ALL races next year on Stream = 47 Races?

I have all of them, and only get DirtVision during the Summernationals (2 months) @ $39/mo

Lucas will stream all 62 races next yr. I pay 100 bucks for my subscription, that comes to ONE dollar and 62 cents per race!! Nuf said.............. Great thread but would add I usually have to wait until the next evening for Lucas to put up the replay of the previous days race. That ain't cool at all. And you watch a Lucas race like you watched tv in 1975. You can't pause or rewind as you watch whereas on DoD/Flo you can.

[Highside Hustler25]

If you did Dirtvision for a year ($468.00) there is no reason, your wife shouldn't let you get FloRacing and LucasOilRacingTV next year.

Or he could scrap the wife and then get all three:)

[DLC]

If you did Dirtvision for a year ($468.00) there is no reason, your wife shouldn't let you get FloRacing and LucasOilRacingTV next year.



Dirtvision is ($507.00) a year.

It's billed every 28 days, not per month. That makes it 13 payments a year.

[Rajflyboy]

If you did Dirtvision for a year ($468.00) there is no reason, your wife shouldn't let you get FloRacing and LucasOilRacingTV next year. FloRacing = $150.00/yearLucasOilRacingTV= $99.99/yearFloRacing is DirtonDirt + Eldora Stream Races (DREAM + World 100) (TONS of races)LucasOilRacingTV is showing ALL races next year on Stream = 47 Races?I have all of them, and only get DirtVision during the Summernationals (2 months) @ $39/moSounds like a good way to do it. 250$ for the year. Lots of bang for the buck. Is there additional fees and taxes on these fees ?

[Dirt Reynolds]

Or he could scrap the wife and then get all three:)

ahahahahahahahahaha truth

[Dirt Reynolds]

If you did Dirtvision for a year ($468.00) there is no reason, your wife shouldn't let you get FloRacing and LucasOilRacingTV next year.



Dirtvision is ($507.00) a year.

It's billed every 28 days, not per month. That makes it 13 payments a year.

Thank you for the correction. You are correct. I remember now because I wanted to get the SN Full Schedule in 1 month, but the tour "conveniently" was stretched over 32 days. Requires 2 months to watch full schedule. Still heck of a deal. for the monthly, not the yearly.

[Dirt Reynolds]

Lucas will stream all 62 races next yr. I pay 100 bucks for my subscription, that comes to ONE dollar and 62 cents per race!! Nuf said.............. Great thread but would add I usually have to wait until the next evening for Lucas to put up the replay of the previous days race. That ain't cool at all. And you watch a Lucas race like you watched tv in 1975. You can't pause or rewind as you watch whereas on DoD/Flo you can.

Well there you have it. Maybe it was somewhere around 47 races from 2020.

62 races for 100 bucks is a heck of a deal.

[Mister Ricochet]

Or he could scrap the wife and then get all three:)

Every married man has to have a sock drawer to stow away funds. You can be sure the wife has her spot to put her "off the books" funds and there's not a darn thing wrong with that........ Saves a lot of fights from ever occurring.

I'm down for 250 a yr for LORTV and Flo. Can not beat it. Technology and the free market are a dam beautiful thing. .............. Still not a time I sit down and watch a dirt race in my chair on the big screen that I'm not totally amazed.

[riddle28]

i agree on lucas tryin to go their own way with MRP but its started to catch on around here (north alabama) and ive had to get it as well as race monitor. No way would i ever get dirt vision for the price you could finance a cheap gas saver a month tho lol $40 a month to watch shepp win every night? no thanks

[fryefan]

You can not go wrong with either one. Flo Racing usually has multiple events on weekends (they have 6 live events on tonight). Lucas Oil Racing in addition to the Lucas Oil races has a LOT of other racing content (talk shows, other forms of racing, etc.).

Butter up the boss and maybe she will let you get both. LOL!!!

Either way, I would recommend that you visit both of their websites and see what they have to offer. I believe Lucas Oil Racing TV lets you preview stuff. They used to anyway.

[champion24]

Any updates to this? DirtVision has a $300/year deal, but it's still the most $.

[TDRacin®]

Any updates to this? DirtVision has a $300/year deal, but it's still the most $.

What kind of update are you looking for?

[bleedblue55]

Get Flo, Dirtvision and Mavtv. Go to about 30 races a year. No wife, she was my biggest expense, sent her packing.

[champion24]

So For 2022: Mav $100, Flo $150, DirtVision $300 for the year. RaceXR is $35 per month only? Anyone get a yearly deal for them? Still beats $50 a weekend!

[NeedforLM$peed]

I watched Senoia on Flo's YouTube channel last weekend at work for free. They had hotlaps and qualifying on live and about 30 mins after the feature Saturday they upload the highlights video.

[stock car driver]

"Trying to decide which streaming service to subscribe to for 2021, can only do one (per the wife)."

I didnt make it past this line, the only thing worse than living like that is posting about it on a forum.

[JimBo]

"Trying to decide which streaming service to subscribe to for 2021, can only do one (per the wife)."

I didnt make it past this line, the only thing worse than living like that is posting about it on a forum.

Did you just tell him he needs to grow a pair? LOL

[zooker25]

Dirt on Dirt with flo is the best! I did get dirtvision for a few months this year a during the summer nationals and loved it too. I love getting up in the morning and watching the highlights on dod.

[samgood]

My vote goes to Apple, but of course you have to make choice by yourself. I would try to evaluate all the pros and cons of each service before making a final decision; by the way, Apple has very nice apple customer service (https://apple.pissedconsumer.com/customer-service.html) , better, than its competitors.

[dlmfan]

Dozenz XII

[ZERO25]

"Trying to decide which streaming service to subscribe to for 2021, can only do one (per the wife)."

I didnt make it past this line, the only thing worse than living like that is posting about it on a forum.

Calm down Bobby Brown, the guy is just looking for friendly suggestions!

[champion24]

So For 2022: Mav $100, Flo $150, DirtVision $300 for the year. RaceXR is $35 per month only? Anyone get a yearly deal for them? Still beats $50 a weekend!

So, no yearly deal for RaceXR?

[buster83]

there are some really good deals out there some have every race lm,usac,sprints,midgets,all series racing all nfl,mlb teams all movie channels you name it some boxes have it all but some of racing picture not clear who knows for what reason and there is a lot on there you don't want but if i sat and watched tv all the time i get nothing done.