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klemmabyna
01-03-2021, 08:10 PM
as the worst president in history. what he has done to this country, all in the name of ego, is disgusting. less than three weeks before this cult goes away. good riddance.

and those of you who have flamed on the democratic party are watching your chosen leader shred the republican party to pieces.

JMO

fat fingers: cementing

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-03-2021, 09:11 PM
The audio with the Secretary of State from Georgia is pretty eye opening. Demanding he find 11 thousand votes is pretty sad, shows him to be unhinged and desperate.

dirtMAN007
01-03-2021, 09:19 PM
The audio with the Secretary of State from Georgia is pretty eye opening. Demanding he find 11 thousand votes is pretty sad, shows him to be unhinged and desperate.

Have you heard the WHOLE conversation or just the few sound bites they want you to hear ? That’s what I thought !

dirtMAN007
01-03-2021, 09:21 PM
as the worst president in history. what he has done to this country, all in the name of ego, is disgusting. less than three weeks before this cult goes away. good riddance.

and those of you who have flamed on the democratic party are watching your chosen leader shred the republican party to pieces.

JMO

fat fingers: cementing

Got no credit for anything GREAT he did ..... nothing else expected from the HATERS !

lurker
01-03-2021, 11:48 PM
what he has done to this country, all in the name of ego, is disgusting.

I get the point you’re trying to make, yet ONE fair analogy could be Obama and his administration spying on Trump pre-2016.


and those of you who have flamed on the democratic party are watching your chosen leader shred the republican party to pieces.

You lost me on that. Please elaborate.

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-04-2021, 08:21 AM
There are a few lawyers who think he might have broken federal and state laws by asking the SOS to find 11,000 votes.

50j
01-04-2021, 08:41 AM
I don't think so. The fraud was caught on tape and obvious enough that one could tell the people that should be straightening it out to get on it. If testing showed gold in the ground and inept workers were fumbling around a manager could certainly tell them to find it.

50j
01-04-2021, 08:42 AM
Just say no to socialism.

dirtMAN007
01-04-2021, 08:50 AM
Just say no to socialism.

he can't he doesn't have it in him !

kazual
01-04-2021, 10:40 AM
I give Trump credit for several things he’s done. But suggesting authorities manufacture votes is out there, WTG Stable Genius. And before someone says there’s evidence or rumors or some Chicken Little voter fraud theory then consider this. There’s intelligent folks, attorneys, and law enforcement professionals that are working tirelessly to support Trump’s claims. It’s time to present evidence of any type, either side, big or small; Waiting,,,,,

50j
01-04-2021, 05:35 PM
Do some research outside of watching media if you really want to see what has happened. The ministers of propaganda will not tell you. How about more votes than voters and vote shifting "mistakes" for starters. How is that legit? If someone has nothing to hide they will want you to look at it, not refuse you.

kazual
01-04-2021, 05:48 PM
I don’t get my info from the media, do you? So you think the media overwhelms Trump’s legal team with their convincing arguments? Doesn’t say a lot for the folks around Trump. Ok, have it your way, the Stable Genius was outsmarted by Sleepy Joe, fair enough, looks like the smarter man won.

dirtMAN007
01-04-2021, 06:08 PM
spoken like a true TRUMP hater ! did you see or hear any of the testimony from the Arizona election official on what ALL went on in that state ? so from your statement you never really cared to honestly look at evidence anyway ?

Rajflyboy
01-04-2021, 06:16 PM
Let’s hear the entire audio. Not just the clips media is showing.

50j
01-04-2021, 07:58 PM
Kazual, do you actually think he's the one that orchestrated it?

Buford.Justice
01-04-2021, 08:55 PM
I truley am saddened and dissappointed in some of the examples of humanity that make such ignorant statements and viewpoints on here.

One can easily see how easy it is for the the media to totally decieve and program people. No wonder the nation is about to fall.

We had a shot at truly reforming this nation and stopping Globalism and Marxism and some you people just have no clue.

kazual
01-04-2021, 09:59 PM
Sorry if I disappoint you Buford but is what it is. It disappoints me that some folks are taken in by a snake oil salesman pretending to be a president. Guess we will agree to disagree.

lurker
01-04-2021, 10:17 PM
It disappoints me that some folks are taken in by a snake oil salesman pretending to be a president.

Snake oil salesman, community organizer --- 2 years fooled, 4 years fooled? Fair enough?

lurker
01-04-2021, 10:20 PM
Klem - Don’t leave me hanging on my question to you. Please.

mcarter815
01-05-2021, 08:43 AM
This is worse than Watergate. It's a US president attempting to extort a state secretary of state to overturn an election result.

kazual
01-05-2021, 08:51 AM
Lurker, fair enough. Not an Obama fan here.

klemmabyna
01-05-2021, 04:26 PM
lurker: debated ignoring your post. but didn't seem fair considering how you have been one of the few to actually discuss rather than just call names. thought about sending a private message. but i don't hide from anyone here. so here is my reply:

believe it or not i was probably one of the biggest republican platform supporters prior to the 2016 election. i even agreed with some of what the Tea Party faction had previously attempted to bring to the table, even though i did not agree with the approach they took.

fast forward to 2016. and the election of Donald Trump. I could not believe this person earned the party nomination. yes. i understood the disgust the public, including me, had towards the glacial movement of our federal government, and the wish to change things. but i will always be in disbelief in how this man, whose history is readliy available to anyone willing to spend some time looking, received his party's nomination.

not so surprising: he got elected. certainly not by popular vote, but i will give credit: he played the electoral college vote game as well as it can be played.

and today: the Tea Party movement feels amateurish compared to the trump cultism. the man is incapable of looking out for anyone but himself. and yet there is a certain faction, not only of the public, but also elected officials, that seem to believe supporting this man and his endless unproven consipracies is good for our country.

lurker: i know you are not just a troll like so many others here. please consider what this president is doing. he has always been devisive. but now there are far more republicans than Romney voicing opposition.

i stand by my original opinion of trump. he should never have gotten elected because of the type of human being he has always been. and thank God we have a democratic republic rather than a dictatorship.

JMO

lurker
01-05-2021, 04:51 PM
Klem - Thanks for the detailed reply. What you stated is absolutely fair enough and I see where you are coming from. Some of which I would agree, the amateurish Tea Party/Cultism comment for one, has us both in agreement, as well as my giggle when reading.

Buford.Justice
01-05-2021, 08:23 PM
This is worse than Watergate. It's a US president attempting to extort a state secretary of state to overturn an election result.

Wow, that is just totally wrong of reality. But you really don't care how they win as long as they win. Stealing this an election is the biggest scam ever. You don't care about the truth and reality, just winning by any means possible.

That secretary is not being extorted silly. It's called, calling him out for lying and not doing his constitutional duty that he promised to do. Of course no Democrat in that state is doing their job honestly either.

Buford.Justice
01-05-2021, 08:49 PM
Over 400 Former Intelligence Officers are Forming a Network to Investigate Election Fraud
Will More Elites Step Up to Expose Voter Fraud

Election irregularities have motivated over 400 people from the intelligence community, judiciary, law enforcement, and military to form a loose network to look into potential acts of voter fraud committed in the 2020 election.

Robert Caron, is one of the main organizers of this network. He previously worked at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Special Situation Group. The latter is a task force President George H.W. Bush established that covers strategic planning, technologies, and foreign and domestic investigations.

Caron was in contact with The Epoch Times and told the outlet that he joined this network in 2014. This was a time when many individuals in the intelligence community were witnessing an uptick in sketchy activity. A large number of intelligence officers were keeping information away from their superiors, while their leaders were preventing information from going public. Caron observed that in 2014 Lt. General Michael Flynn criticized Barack Obama for“not acting properly on intelligence” when he was president.

Obama would later fire Flynn that year over management issues. In early August of 2014, Flynn was forced to resign as the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). Following President Donald Trump’s pardon of Flynn in December, Flynn claimed during an interview with The New York Post that he was framed in the Russia-collusion investigation due to Obama’s fear that Flynn would expose some of his administration’s dirty laundry.

“President Obama was not acting properly on intelligence that he received concerning Benghazi,” Caron stated, alluding to an attack of U.S. government facilities in Benghazi, Libya, where four Americans were killed. He claims that this incident motivated a good portion of the intelligence community to organize and join this network to expose administrative corruption.

Following reports of irregularities surfacing in the 2020 election, the investigation network began to grow substantially. Caron claims that the network is made up of former intelligence officers from agencies such as the CIA, FBI, DIA, and the National Security Agency (NSA), just to name a few.

“The fraud was so massive and so blatant, despite what the mainstream media said, that we need to get this information out to the public,” declared Caron. “That’s why more and more people from the intelligence community and law enforcement are coming out, which is unheard of.”

As of late, this network’s main focus is trying to determine if the Chinese Communist Party played a key role in interfering during the 2020 elections. Although that has yet to be determined, China has made it clear since its economic growth took off in the 1980s that it’s willing to engage in tough competition with the U.S.

One thing is clear though, the nationalist movement will need defectors from the ruling class and similar groups to step up and expose the D.C. regime’s corruption. Pressure from the inside still has a major role to play in this fight.

Buford.Justice
01-05-2021, 09:03 PM
The President is going go address the nation Wednesday morning.

But you won't see it on CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, blah blah blah You will see a Hate Trump Conference instead.

Real Americas Voice and Newsmax will air it. FOX??? Who knows???

lurker
01-05-2021, 10:34 PM
please consider what this president is doing.

In context, I completely follow the point you’re making --- I see it too. I said the same thing during the Obama administration. Neither have been/were the prize everyone thought they’d be.

Point is,

Hopefully the masses, “consider” the racial divisiveness of our new VP, Harris, and not to be swept under the rug. Little things like this add up, just ask Trump. Yet only under a more Conservative based platform will you find information like this, as our pitiful left leaning News industry doesn’t seem to cover stories like this. Thus, under the rug for most of the masses.

Kamala Harris Story About Demanding Civil Rights As Toddler Lifted From MLK Interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fivr2suH13c

lurker
01-06-2021, 12:03 AM
This is worse than Watergate.

Every Trump infraction for the last 4 years was “worse than Watergate” per Carl Bernstein of NYT Watergate fame.

Tucker: Worse than Watergate? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fggLC8YGa9U

Not that you’ll watch the video, while others will, but it points out how many times this parroted talking point is repeated over and over the last 4 years.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 12:14 AM
That just shows how awful this administration has been.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:58 AM
This is worse than Watergate. It's a US president attempting to extort a state secretary of state to overturn an election result.
Guess you had to be there..........

kazual
01-06-2021, 07:46 AM
Watch how DJT turns on Mike Pence like a wounded animal. Pence has been loyal to a fault, been his patsy over and over again. But Pence isn’t going to overthrow the constitution for him. I’m sure if Trump could fire him he would, using his normal cowardly manner of doing it by tweet.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 12:56 PM
Now Trump has whipped up a frenzy in DC and have sent protesters to storm the Capitol building.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 01:25 PM
So when do they start teargassing the Karens? If they protesters were black, the police would probably be shooting by now.

lurker
01-06-2021, 02:08 PM
If they protesters were black, the police would probably be shooting by now.

Really? Really? The race card?

Again mcarter815, you’re a smarter more intelligent and intellectual person than that comment.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 02:16 PM
You're going to pretend that there isn't a race element to this? There are reports of shots being fired into the House chamber. If they were black protesters, the response would be much different.

lurker
01-06-2021, 02:20 PM
We are all ONE race, the human race, right?

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 02:29 PM
We are all ONE race, the human race, right?

I wish that's how every American viewed things, but that's not the reality we live in. NorthAlabama, on this very forum, sees a difference in people by skin color.

lurker
01-06-2021, 02:37 PM
Change your reality, read some Thomas Sowell.

lurker
01-06-2021, 02:47 PM
I just turned on the News networks after your comment on “Blacks” ---- I see a lot of Black protesters wearing MAGA hats, thus IMHO your race baiting comments hold no water.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 02:47 PM
Change your reality, read some Thomas Sowell.

Does Thomas Sowell pretend that racists don't exist?

lurker
01-06-2021, 02:50 PM
You’ll have to read the books, and watch a few of his videos --- is the ONLY way you’ll get it.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 02:51 PM
I'm not going to spend that much time on someone who is likely full of it. If you can't give a clipnotes version then it's pointless.

CIRF
01-06-2021, 02:52 PM
That just shows how awful this administration has been.

Nah, wasn't that awful. This administration and it's supporters successfully hurt you're man-bun, gamer boy/girl feelings, and the feelings of all those of you ilk, for over 4 years. THAT is considered a monumental success. LOLOL!

lurker
01-06-2021, 02:57 PM
I'm not going to spend that much time on someone who is likely full of it.

Sowell is Black, thus making you a racist per you comments above.

lurker
01-06-2021, 03:00 PM
Debunking Systemic Racism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5daNMXer2UQ

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 03:02 PM
Sowell is Black, thus making you a racist per you comments above.

Nah, because the reason why I'm not going to watch his videos isn't because he's black. If he was white, I still wouldn't watch his videos.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 03:02 PM
An IED was found at the capitol building. These aren't protesters. They are terrorists.

CIRF
01-06-2021, 03:03 PM
Does Thomas Sowell pretend that racists don't exist?

I've read some of Mr. Sowell's work. Plenty enough to recognize that you couldn't carry Mr. Sowell's dirty laundry in regards to intellect and rectitude. Your most prized intellectual asset is the ability to memorize and regurgitate Marxist/Democrat talking points as disseminated on your favorite network news programs.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 03:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEvR12U0AAs5Jn?format=jpg&name=large

lurker
01-06-2021, 03:12 PM
These aren't protesters. They are terrorists.

Some would call them Patriots.

And Biden is speaking right now ---- where in the he!! was this speech during Portland.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 03:13 PM
Some call the Confederate traitors patriots as well.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 03:26 PM
You're going to pretend that there isn't a race element to this? There are reports of shots being fired into the House chamber. If they were black protesters, the response would be much different.

Like months ago when they were burning their way through cities?? This looks much more civil than that? Or am I missing something?

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 03:28 PM
Like months ago when they were burning their way through cities?? This looks much more civil than that? Or am I missing something?

Shots were fired by at least one terrorist in the Capitol building.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 03:32 PM
I wish that's how every American viewed things, but that's not the reality we live in. NorthAlabama, on this very forum, sees a difference in people by skin color.

As does every member of the naacp and the democratic black caucus,no?

Just trying to understand your logic?

And for what it's worth, more Americans view it as the human race than you think.....your fascination with failure and the sky falling on your head every day won't let you see it.

Sux to be you in that regard I guess?

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 03:34 PM
Shots were fired by at least one terrorist in the Capitol building.

You mean like the ones rittenhouse fired? Or the terrorists that were burning down police stations a couple months back?

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 03:36 PM
I'm not going to spend that much time on someone who is likely full of it. If you can't give a clipnotes version then it's pointless.

The irony in this post is extra large.......

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 03:37 PM
An IED was found at the capitol building. These aren't protesters. They are terrorists.

Is that worse than just burning them down as you go? Don't remember your outrage back then?

lurker
01-06-2021, 03:54 PM
mcarter815 - What we are seeing right now is just the beginning of the New Normal when it comes to Patriots, Demonstrators, Protestors, and or Terrorist.

Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

lurker
01-06-2021, 04:01 PM
mcarter815 - Below was just sent to me from TikTok.


“Did you see The Hunger Games movies? They didn’t storm the capital until the third movie and we haven’t been able to kill anyone yet.”

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 04:06 PM
This game started a year or so didn't it? The players just changed .......right?

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 04:08 PM
This game started a year or so didn't it? The players just changed .......right?

You were worried about the BLM riots but you don't seem to be worried about this one.

lurker
01-06-2021, 04:11 PM
Some call the Confederate traitors patriots as well.

Stars and Bars connotation? Naaaahhh!!! The South will rise again?

dirtMAN007
01-06-2021, 04:18 PM
Shots were fired by at least one terrorist in the Capitol building.

no bloodshed no revolution ! you better grab what you can and and head out cuz you ain't got the stomach or courage for whats coming

lurker
01-06-2021, 04:19 PM
You were worried about the BLM riots but you don't seem to be worried about this one.

You have been sympathetic and supportive with the likes of Antifa and BLM and weren’t worried, now WE’RE suppose to be worried about the dismay in DC right now?

And No, I’m not worried “about this one“.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 04:20 PM
This is different. This is a mob trying to disrupt a democratic process.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 04:22 PM
no bloodshed no revolution ! you better grab what you can and and head out cuz you ain't got the stomach or courage for whats coming

We found the tough guy.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 04:23 PM
This is different. This is a mob trying to disrupt a democratic process.

Sounds like you are describing the 2020 House of Representatives.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 04:24 PM
You were worried about the BLM riots but you don't seem to be worried about this one.

I'm not worried about either.....just how they are reported on so differently.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 04:25 PM
We found the tough guy.

You spelled prepared wrong......

lurker
01-06-2021, 04:26 PM
This is different.

Comparatives, Comparables, and or Equivalents --- are a bit$h when they don’t go in your favor.

dirtMAN007
01-06-2021, 04:26 PM
We found the tough guy.

but no denial ........................... interesting !

lurker
01-06-2021, 04:39 PM
but no denial ........................... interesting !

You can’t say some off us didn’t warn mcarter815 about the coming pushback, months ago.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 04:41 PM
I'm well armed, I just don't feel the need to advertise that on a forum like an internet tough guy.

lurker
01-06-2021, 04:53 PM
This game started a year or so didn't it? The players just changed .......right?

I bet the outrage in DC today cost less than the riots, burnings, and looting across the USA in the last year.

lurker
01-06-2021, 04:55 PM
I just don't feel the need to advertise that on a forum like an internet tough guy.

I didn’t read/take dirtMAN007’s comment anywhere close to the way you did.

dirtMAN007
01-06-2021, 04:55 PM
I'm well armed, I just don't feel the need to advertise that on a forum like an internet tough guy.

but you just did ..................................... i never did ! tough guy!

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 04:57 PM
but you just did ..................................... i never did ! tough guy!

"no blood no revolution" means you're ready for a fight.

dirtMAN007
01-06-2021, 04:59 PM
I'm well armed, I just don't feel the need to advertise that on a forum like an internet tough guy.

it doesn't take a gun for there to be bloodshed !

fryefan
01-06-2021, 05:09 PM
The attempted coup that donnie has encouraged has failed for now. He needs to be removed from office ASAP for inciting this domestic terrorism act that occurred today.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:34 PM
I'm well armed, I just don't feel the need to advertise that on a forum like an internet tough guy.

Thought you said you were having a hard time finding ammo???

Did you forget? I didn't.

lurker
01-06-2021, 05:34 PM
He needs to be removed from office ASAP for inciting this domestic terrorism act that occurred today.

Don’t worry, Trump will be out of office soon enough. And not that I don’t follow and somewhat agree with your point ---- yet at the time, I said the exact same thing about the Liberal Democratic Mayors of the cities that were being rioted, burned, and looted for the past year.

racingfool32
01-06-2021, 05:36 PM
The attempted coup that donnie has encouraged has failed for now. He needs to be removed from office ASAP for inciting this domestic terrorism act that occurred today.

Don’t go full stupid.

Now for today tens of thousands outside peaceful protesting and a few hundred storm the capital causing problems. Let’s me think where I’ve seen this before. Antifa scum 101

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:37 PM
"no blood no revolution" means you're ready for a fight.

Doesn't necessarily mean he is .......Mcnugget logic.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 05:38 PM
Thought you said you were having a hard time finding ammo???

Did you forget? I didn't.

I only needed shotgun slugs.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:40 PM
The attempted coup that donnie has encouraged has failed for now. He needs to be removed from office ASAP for inciting this domestic terrorism act that occurred today.

This coup lasted a day, the last one lasted almost 4 years.....no contest.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:42 PM
I only needed shotgun slugs.

You call that well armed? Dam you really are dumb.......and Ill prepared.

You're gonna need a bigger boat.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 05:45 PM
You call that well armed? Dam you really are dumb.......and Ill prepared.

You're gonna need a bigger boat.

No, it was shotgun deer season. That's why I only needed slugs. (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) yer dumb.

lurker
01-06-2021, 05:46 PM
Its weird how “today’s” equivalent of BLM and Antifa antics for the last year are viewed differently via political bias and media bias --- when it comes to some that post here. I get it, some hate Trump, its all his fault --- I get it. But not to see today’s equivalent is baffling to me.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:48 PM
Then why were you complaining about not being able to find ammunition?

You have to be well armed versus a deer??? Get your stories straight dummy.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:49 PM
I'm well armed, I just don't feel the need to advertise that on a forum like an internet tough guy.

Run Bambi.....run.

Lmao.

Idiot.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:51 PM
Post 88...... Oblivious to themselves......they don't see it so they think nobody else can either.

Not much more to add than that.

It's humorous to watch.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 05:52 PM
Then why were you complaining about not being able to find ammunition?

You have to be well armed versus a deer??? Get your stories straight dummy.

Because I needed slugs and pretty much all ammo was sold out? This isn't hard to understand.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:54 PM
No, the well armed part you just boasted about 30 minutes ago........clearly you aren't, weren't and never have been.

But it's your story Daniel Boone......tell it like you want.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 05:57 PM
What exactly is cementaing anyway???

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 05:59 PM
Because I needed slugs and pretty much all ammo was sold out? This isn't hard to understand.

Like most people that own guns, I have more than just a shotgun. Dam yer dumb.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 06:01 PM
Like most people that own guns, I have more than just a shotgun. Dam yer dumb.

That you complain about not being able to find or buy ammo for.......but then claim to be well armed.

They make nice paperweights without ammunition.

Wish I was smarter like you sometimes.........said no one ever.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 06:05 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErFah-VXcAIvZ4R?format=jpg&name=large

The guy on the left is wearing a hoodie with the words Camp Auschwitz on it.

lurker
01-06-2021, 06:30 PM
OK, I’ll bite ---- what’s that mean and what’s your point in posting the picture?

camp auschwitz - https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS454US624&sxsrf=ALeKk002dKgE7Oy9BUEWfbrYgCVk1V3xyg%3A1609979 187956&ei=M1X2X8XqOcSQ5gKVnLHQBQ&q=camp+auschwitz&oq=camp+auschwitz&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIECCMQJzILCAAQsQMQgwEQyQMyAgg AMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAE BYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BwgjEMkDECdQsrQEWLK0BGC kugRoAHAAeACAAV-IAbgBkgEBMpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXrAAQE&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiF0N_sx4juAhVEiFkKHRVODFoQ4dUDCA0&uact=5

I’m lost.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 06:33 PM
Camp Auschwitz sweater with a skull and crossbones on it. The skull and crossbones was worn by members of the SS. That isn't a sweater he bought at a gift shop and he wore it to a Trump rally for a reason. He is a nazi.

lurker
01-06-2021, 06:50 PM
Camp Auschwitz sweater with a skull and crossbones on it. The skull and crossbones was worn by members of the SS. That isn't a sweater he bought at a gift shop and he wore it to a Trump rally for a reason. He is a nazi.

Then you should be embracing him then, right? As your “posted” past socialist value set go hand in hand with his.

Why? The true dictionary definition of Nazi is: a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Thus, I’m not sure why you would be offended by one of your own.

lurker
01-06-2021, 06:52 PM
You are a very conflicted person.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 06:52 PM
The Nazis were Socialist in name only. Their policies weren't Socialist.

lurker
01-06-2021, 07:02 PM
The Nazis were Socialist in name only. Their policies weren't Socialist.

Again, you are a very conflicted person.

Government: Nazi one-party totalitarian dictatorship - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany#Government

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:04 PM
Not all totalitarian dictatorships are Socialist. The real socialists in the Nazi party were murdered during the Night of the Long Knives. Hitler outlawed collective bargaining and unions. He had members of the Communist party arrested. He cozied up to the business owners instead of reducing their power.

lurker
01-06-2021, 07:08 PM
You millennials will end up eating your own, in the end, with logic like that.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:09 PM
The reason why Hitler ordered those deaths during the Night of the Long Knives is because they were trying to actually make socialist policies and he didn't want that.

Rajflyboy
01-06-2021, 07:19 PM
Remember that Antifa paid protesters were the violent ones today. They dressed up like trump folks

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:20 PM
Trump incited them at the protest earlier in the day.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:22 PM
It's nice to hear top Republicans speak against the president and call it an insurrection, which it was

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:24 PM
Trump should be impeached, removed from office, and disqualified from running for office again.

Rajflyboy
01-06-2021, 07:24 PM
Trump incited them at the protest earlier in the day.Nope You have no clue what’s going on. Democrat money man Soros paid protestors were the ones causing violence today. Your people carter.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:26 PM
That's more QAnon nonsense.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:27 PM
Antifa people don't post their faces on Twitter.

lurker
01-06-2021, 07:28 PM
The reason why Hitler ordered those deaths during the Night of the Long Knives is because they were trying to actually make socialist policies and he didn't want that.



No $hit!! He wanted a (socialist type) dictatorship of his own. His own.

I say that knowing your history, and my history --- came from different “truth” eras when educators weren’t as Liberal, and school books were more honest about history. Then again, you really can’t help what you’ve been indoctrinated with, as its all you know. Truth aside, truth be (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)ed.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:32 PM
Read Shirer's book The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (1960)

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:32 PM
Hitler had a fascist dictatorship, not a socialist dictatorship.

lurker
01-06-2021, 07:37 PM
Trump incited them at the protest earlier in the day.

Agreed!!!!!!!!!!

Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi all incited there protesters too.

lurker
01-06-2021, 07:41 PM
Hitler had a fascist dictatorship, not a socialist dictatorship.

I understand that, but his hidden intent was to be socialist in nature and yes somewhat fascist too, like what Harris wants.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 07:43 PM
I understand that, but his hidden intent was to be socialist in nature and yes somewhat fascist too, like what Harris wants.

That's just not correct.

lurker
01-06-2021, 07:54 PM
That's just not correct.

You are correct in correcting me and my sincerest of apologies. I was thinking Marxist but typed Socialist in hurried postings. My fault.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 08:57 PM
Camp Auschwitz sweater with a skull and crossbones on it. The skull and crossbones was worn by members of the SS. That isn't a sweater he bought at a gift shop and he wore it to a Trump rally for a reason. He is a nazi.

I think a Nazi would disagree with you.

Buford.Justice
01-06-2021, 09:08 PM
To the clueless people that think Trump incited a riot and violence and that are unaware of the conservative protestors being infiltrated by Antifa, you people just don't get it or just plain support the lies with full knowledge. Which is it? Hope you are happy with the nation falling to Communism and Globalists. It will affect you too down the road, as this great nation falls into immorality and darkness at a faster rate now.

Trump told the people to be peaceful in his speech today and you lieing media parrotors are out there blaming him once again.

Guess what though? Nobody leaves this world without answering and paying for their actions. If you support evil people then you will be held accountable.

Buford.Justice
01-06-2021, 09:09 PM
Mcfarter you posted that picture knowing nothing about the truth behind it.

Buford.Justice
01-06-2021, 09:10 PM
Trump incited them at the protest earlier in the day.

No he did not!!!!

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 09:14 PM
Truth has a very wide strike zone in McNuggets world......

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 09:17 PM
Mcfarter you posted that picture knowing nothing about the truth behind it.

Enlighten me, then.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 09:18 PM
Truth has a very wide strike zone in McNuggets world......

Crawl back under your bridge.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 09:27 PM
It's cute when you're mad.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 09:29 PM
Truth not tasting so good tonight?

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 09:29 PM
If it weren't so dangerous, I would be enjoying seeing Trump's mental breakdown.

Barbecueboy
01-06-2021, 09:33 PM
Enjoy watching a member of the human race suffer??? The hate owns you .....he wins, lol.

Dam yer dumb

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 09:36 PM
I'm enjoy a victory cigar tonight. Trump lost and he has doomed himself with inciting this mob today. There is now a large schism between him and the Republican party.

Josh Bayko
01-06-2021, 09:36 PM
All of the Nazis died decades ago. All the millenitard buzzwords in the world isn’t going to change that.

mcarter815
01-06-2021, 09:38 PM
There are still 90 year old Nazis being discovered and arrested. Besides the Hitler Nazis, neo-nazi movements have existed for decades.

lurker
01-06-2021, 09:48 PM
---- the conservative protestors being infiltrated by Antifa,

I’m on the fence on this. Yet it is very plausible. Whoever, it was very organized, and the protection gear I’ve never seen the likes of with Trump supporters.

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-06-2021, 10:03 PM
Reports of the cabinet discussing using the 25th amendment.

lurker
01-06-2021, 10:13 PM
Also reports that the terrorist mob was Soros backed Antifa that infiltrated a Trump rally. As Flyboy and Buford already noted.

Josh Bayko
01-07-2021, 05:32 AM
There are still 90 year old Nazis being discovered and arrested. Besides the Hitler Nazis, neo-nazi movements have existed for decades.

Calling little pockets of white supremacist knuckleheads Nazis is exactly what they want. It empowers them. Seemingly nobody has figured this out yet and still lean on the crutch of alarmism to avoid any real discussion about pertinent issues.

Rajflyboy
01-07-2021, 05:37 AM
Reports of the cabinet discussing using the 25th amendment.Do you think that could cause a much bigger riot?

ss12
01-07-2021, 05:54 AM
As the violent mob incited by President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, some West Wing staffers panicked that they were possibly becoming participants in a coup to overthrow the government. “What do I do? Resign?” one nervous White House staffer asked a friend on Wednesday afternoon, shortly after news broke that a woman had been shot and killed inside the Capitol. The West Wing staffer told the friend that White House Counsel Pat Cipollone was urging White House officials not to speak to Trump or enable his coup attempt in any way, so they could reduce the chance they could be prosecuted for treason under the Sedition Act. “They’re being told to stay away from Trump,” the friend said. The White House declined to comment.

Cipollone’s purported concern that Trump was committing treason––a federal crime––illustrates the chaos and fear of Wednesday’s unprecedented events. At least one staffer isn’t waiting to flee the ship. On Wednesday night, CNN reported that Stephanie Grisham, the former White House communications director and Melania Trump’s current chief of staff, resigned over the Trump-inspired riot. As staff quit or steer clear, Trump is increasingly isolated and alone. According to a person close to the White House, Trump refused to take calls on Wednesday from business leaders who wanted him to call off the insurrectionists. A former West Wing staffer said Republicans were texting and calling Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to lobby him to intervene, but Meadows wasn’t answering.

In recent days, as Trump’s bid to overturn the election became increasingly desperate, he expressed anarchist comments in private, a second Republican close to the White House told me. The Republican said Trump told people that he wanted David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler to lose the Georgia Senate runoff election as a way of punishing them and Mitch McConnell. “Trump told people he is really angry that the senators and McConnell hadn’t stood up for him to challenge the election. He’s happy they lost.” According to the Republican, Trump has said he’ll be the most dominant force in Republican politics if there’s no party leadership.

Rajflyboy
01-07-2021, 06:30 AM
SS12. This is what you have been supporting for years. Violence. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCDe7vdFfw

Barbecueboy
01-07-2021, 07:01 AM
It's what he's allowed to support.

kazual
01-07-2021, 08:22 AM
Yeah those protestors and hooligans were Antifa or whatever, that’s why ole DJT said in his video “we love you” and “you’re special”,,,,wait, what? 😀

Barbecueboy
01-07-2021, 08:33 AM
But I thought you guys said trump was a patalogical liar and couldn't believe anything he said??? But you choose to believe he loves them because he said it?? Wait, whut?

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-07-2021, 08:45 AM
Gonna get flamed for this but I think Trump should resign and let Pence take over the final two weeks for the good of the country. The country is on very unstable ground right now. I think most Trump supporters do not condone the actions yesterday and are ashamed of the way the few reacted.

kazual
01-07-2021, 08:49 AM
What he said ^^^^

Josh Bayko
01-07-2021, 09:00 AM
Gonna get flamed for this but I think Trump should resign and let Pence take over the final two weeks for the good of the country. The country is on very unstable ground right now. I think most Trump supporters do not condone the actions yesterday and are ashamed of the way the few reacted.

I tend to agree.

Barbecueboy
01-07-2021, 09:25 AM
I'm on that bandwagon ..a good " I'm sorry" I effed up yesterday would go a long way too.

Doubt we will see that part though.

Barbecueboy
01-07-2021, 09:28 AM
I do love how the news calls it an angry mob, when even some of the realist dems described it as a small fringe of his base.

I don't remember anyone calling anyone angry mobs when they were walking out of the burning best buys with arm loads of tvs and cell phones.....strange.

dirtMAN007
01-07-2021, 10:11 AM
I do love how the news calls it an angry mob, when even some of the realist dems described it as a small fringe of his base.

I don't remember anyone calling anyone angry mobs when they were walking out of the burning best buys with arm loads of tvs and cell phones.....strange.

i think they called them peaceful protests !

mcarter815
01-07-2021, 10:21 AM
One of the guys wearing a helmet was a newly elected West Virginia delegate, Derrick Evans. Are you going to tell me he's antifa?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/west-virginia-republican-delegate-storms-capitol

Barbecueboy
01-07-2021, 10:38 AM
i think they called them peaceful protests !
Is that the same as calling an empty gun, well armed?

Barbecueboy
01-07-2021, 10:42 AM
One of the guys wearing a helmet was a newly elected West Virginia delegate, Derrick Evans. Are you going to tell me he's antifa?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/west-virginia-republican-delegate-storms-capitol

Based on his history' are you going to say with any certainty that he's not?asking for a friend.

anthonycacace
01-07-2021, 11:07 AM
I do love how the news calls it an angry mob, when even some of the realist dems described it as a small fringe of his base.

I don't remember anyone calling anyone angry mobs when they were walking out of the burning best buys with arm loads of tvs and cell phones.....strange.

Actually, several did call out rioters and looting as being inappropriate and unhelpful to the BLM cause:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/8/11/21363582/black-lives-matter-blm-racial-justice-looters-chicago-letters

Also, there is a stark difference in the way the popo treated each group. Hmmm, I wonder what may've been the cause of popo deference in their treatment of the people at the Capitol?

Barbecueboy
01-07-2021, 12:33 PM
Actually, several did call out rioters and looting as being inappropriate and unhelpful to the BLM cause:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/31/riots-violence-erupting-turning-many-away-blm-and-protests-column/5675343002/

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/8/11/21363582/black-lives-matter-blm-racial-justice-looters-chicago-letters

Also, there is a stark difference in the way the popo treated each group. Hmmm, I wonder what may've been the cause of popo deference in their treatment of the people at the Capitol?
That group of people yesterday had never burned down cities, rioted every Best Buy and Walgreens in their site in the name of what their protesting.......the group you are trying to compare them too....not so much.

I would say yesterday's turn of events was a bit of a surprise .....again, the other folks you are trying to bait everyone with the race card with, not so much my man.

Things that do make you go hmmmmm.

Buford.Justice
01-07-2021, 08:48 PM
Gonna get flamed for this but I think Trump should resign and let Pence take over the final two weeks for the good of the country. The country is on very unstable ground right now. I think most Trump supporters do not condone the actions yesterday and are ashamed of the way the few reacted.

I'll flick my bick on that bogus post.... Pence let this nation down.

Buford.Justice
01-07-2021, 08:52 PM
One of the guys wearing a helmet was a newly elected West Virginia delegate, Derrick Evans. Are you going to tell me he's antifa?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/west-virginia-republican-delegate-storms-capitol

Thanks for yet more biased BS from that far left rag!!!! Google leads you by the nose, showing you only what they want you to see and censoring the rest.

Buford.Justice
01-07-2021, 09:11 PM
For too long, many Americans felt their voices were not heard. In 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump (R) became the voice of tens of millions of Americans who believed the system was rigged against them. As corporations were bailed out during the Great Recession, the average person experienced a crumbling economy and massive home foreclosures. In 2016, nearly 95 million Americans were not participating in the labor workforce. Yet, Washington, D.C., became the most affluent city in America as politicians and bureaucrats grew out-of-touch with their constituents’ needs.

Over the four years of the Trump presidency, Democrats ignored, vilified and verbally attacked Trump supporters. When COVID-19 struck, and governors executed months-long shutdowns and destroyed livelihoods, it was President Trump who said they shouldn’t make the cure worse than the disease.

Now, nearly 75 million Americans don’t trust the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, and Americans are losing their faith in our government. Joe Biden has done nothing to solve that problem. In fact, he has his own corruption issues to deal with.

While some may legitimately disagree, at this point, America doesn’t have a Constitutional crisis. However, millions of Americans have a crisis of faith regarding how their government follows the Constitution.

ZERO25
01-08-2021, 08:55 PM
as the worst president in history. what he has done to this country, all in the name of ego, is disgusting. less than three weeks before this cult goes away. good riddance.

and those of you who have flamed on the democratic party are watching your chosen leader shred the republican party to pieces.

JMO

fat fingers: cementing

Disgusting?......Nope......Elightening! He exposed the cesspool of Washington, and has them running scared of losing all their side money! fact!

Barbecueboy
01-08-2021, 09:49 PM
Well, there's that too......they are all really going to hate him when he his no longer bound by the presidency.

People are going to squirm.

Rajflyboy
01-09-2021, 05:36 AM
Funny thing is that Biden and dems think Trump and Trump people are going away after inauguration. He will be on media more than ever and u will see many more protests.

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-09-2021, 08:56 AM
Looks like he will have to start his own media platform.

Barbecueboy
01-09-2021, 09:50 AM
Do you think for a minute that he won't?

It will be wildly popular and profitable for him.........hahahahahahahahahaha.

And people are going to squirm.

kazual
01-09-2021, 10:00 AM
Certainly could see him starting his own platform. To pilfer money from supporters and to stoke his ego. His supporters are first off, above all else, a revenue source to him and his brand. If he thinks one position or another can garner him more contributions he will change in a heartbeat.

Barbecueboy
01-09-2021, 10:07 AM
Yup..........he also picks up others like me that aren't going to give him a dime but will enjoy and support him pulling the curtain back on the DC wizards.

How's that for irony? They named a pro team after them.

kazual
01-09-2021, 10:53 AM
Would be great if curtains would be pulled back on all of them bbq, Washington is a cess pool. Start with legislation that does away with lobbying and allow only minimal political contributions would be a good start. Because I’m vocal against ole DJT doesn’t mean I’m a Biden fan. Choices have been poor for a few election cycles now.

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-09-2021, 11:22 AM
Term limits. Choices being poor is an understatement!

Barbecueboy
01-09-2021, 11:30 AM
Agreeing like this???? Does this make us a mob?

Rajflyboy
01-09-2021, 06:37 PM
The phone is ringing all day long at the White House with media opportunities. Trump is waiting until after pot smoking Biden takes office to pick which opportunities he takes.

mcarter815
01-09-2021, 06:55 PM
The FBI is saying there is no evidence of involvement by antifa in the insurrection.

Rajflyboy
01-09-2021, 07:15 PM
The FBI is saying there is no evidence of involvement by antifa in the insurrection.They also said Richard Jewel was the Atlanta Olympic bomber.

ZERO25
01-09-2021, 07:30 PM
The FBI is saying there is no evidence of involvement by antifa in the insurrection.

The same FBI that claimed Russia collusion?

mcarter815
01-09-2021, 07:50 PM
The same FBI that claimed Russia collusion?

The same FBI that claimed Russian interference.

Rajflyboy
01-09-2021, 08:25 PM
The same FBI that claimed Russian interference.They ain’t too smart are they. Russian hoax.

Buford.Justice
01-09-2021, 08:29 PM
Now Google is threatening to remove parler.com (the apps) and others.

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-10-2021, 08:40 AM
I believe Apple has already.

kazual
01-10-2021, 09:44 AM
This is what I find humorous. Many of us, myself included, have raged about “entitlement” mentality. Yet it seems that many that protested vehemently now feel they’re entitled to their social media fix. No one makes me subscribe to a social media platform, to shop at a retailer that does or doesn’t require masks, or to set through a crappy movie or race until the end. Ask yourself, if FB or Twitter is one of the first things you look at in the morning what in the world are you doing to make yourself a better informed and educated person?

Barbecueboy
01-10-2021, 09:52 AM
The same FBI that claimed Russian interference.

They claimed interference when they couldn't prove collusion.......it's a large stretch either way.

And claiming and proving are two different things........you claim to be a software engineer with a hot girlfriend about to get her masters.

dirtMAN007
01-10-2021, 11:15 AM
The FBI is saying there is no evidence of involvement by antifa in the insurrection.

The same fbi who had Hunters Laptop since September? The SWAMP is DEEP !

mcarter815
01-10-2021, 11:33 AM
They claimed interference when they couldn't prove collusion.......it's a large stretch either way.

And claiming and proving are two different things........you claim to be a software engineer with a hot girlfriend about to get her masters.

I am going to believe the professionals in the FBI, NSA, and CIA over some fly by night conservative media.

She's working on her phd, btw. She already has a masters degree.

mcarter815
01-10-2021, 11:33 AM
The same fbi who had Hunters Laptop since September? The SWAMP is DEEP !

The laptop was a red herring spread by the conservative media.

lurker
01-10-2021, 12:19 PM
Is Pelosi’s missing laptop a red herring too?

Barbecueboy
01-10-2021, 12:58 PM
Ooooops...........

mcarter815
01-10-2021, 01:04 PM
Don't know. I saw a photo of her unlocked PC, though.

ZERO25
01-10-2021, 06:22 PM
Don't know. I saw a photo of her unlocked PC, though.

Inside the hair salon?

Rajflyboy
01-10-2021, 07:00 PM
Someone should post that pic Kathy Griffith made of Trump.

Buford.Justice
01-10-2021, 07:59 PM
The laptop was a red herring spread by the conservative media.

He it isn't. Bet your life on it and find out the facts...

lurker
01-10-2021, 08:30 PM
Pelosi to Bring Trump Impeachment Legislation to House Floor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RY2RyRtE34

Buford.Justice
01-10-2021, 08:50 PM
Update on Georgia ballots: DHS had been trying to move forward this week. Two days ago FBI jumped in claiming jurisdiction. Yesterday 3 PM FBI took control of shredding truck and materials, directed they be returned to shredding operation and the shredding job completed.

Shreading the evidence? That's the FBI for you...

lurker
01-10-2021, 08:51 PM
Don't know. I saw a photo of her unlocked PC, though.

Lt. General Thomas McInerney: Special Forces Took Nancy Pelosi Laptop Wednesday, Says She's Frantic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Ady3z-Xy8

Barbecueboy
01-11-2021, 11:23 AM
Don't know. I saw a photo of her unlocked PC, though.

Did you see it on the Internet ???? Just want to make sure you're getting your info from a reliable trusted source.

stock car driver
01-12-2021, 04:46 PM
Do some research outside of watching media if you really want to see what has happened. The ministers of propaganda will not tell you. How about more votes than voters and vote shifting "mistakes" for starters. How is that legit? If someone has nothing to hide they will want you to look at it, not refuse you.

Post a link to this supposed proof, of more votes than voters....

Why not share if its factual?

lurker
01-12-2021, 05:11 PM
Personally, I find videos like these more interesting.

Why do Biden's votes not follow Benford's Law? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etx0k1nLn78&list=WL&index=38&t=303s

Why was Biden's win calculated to be ONE IN A QUADRILLION? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5aOFi-DKs

klemmabyna
01-12-2021, 06:17 PM
point fingers all you want. mr. trump created this.

Barbecueboy
01-12-2021, 09:20 PM
Not by himself......but who's counting?

kazual
01-13-2021, 08:37 AM
If Twitter, Facebook, etc. had suspended his accounts early or mid last year it’s my belief he might still be president. His failure is self inflicted in my opinion.

Buford.Justice
01-13-2021, 02:20 PM
point fingers all you want. mr. trump created this.

Stealing the election created this. Look at the true guilty, find them and see what all they did.

Trump has not called for ANY violence.

Buford.Justice
01-13-2021, 02:21 PM
Kazual come on now. You know big tech had no right to censor anyone.

kazual
01-13-2021, 03:57 PM
Buford, I can walk into Wal Mart or any other retailer to buy something. But if I walk in carrying a political sign I won’t get past their front door. Private business, their platform, their rules. But the original point, if he had been banned several months or a couple years ago I am of the opinion he might have won the election. He’s his own worst enemy with his ongoing ramblings, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, insults, and lies. He has made the truth as scarce as frugal television preachers.

Barbecueboy
01-13-2021, 04:23 PM
Or as scarce as honest and sincere house majority leaders..........

Barbecueboy
01-13-2021, 04:26 PM
He is his own worst enemy sometimes.....but ducking arrows for 4 years will make one a bit edgy and callous.

kazual
01-13-2021, 08:03 PM
Don’t disagree bbq. But my opinion so did Obama. He was pelted continuously by Republicans, the Tea Party and right wing news. Same thing four years apart but with roles reversed. Who managed it better?

dirtMAN007
01-13-2021, 08:10 PM
Surely you jest !

dirtMAN007
01-14-2021, 05:23 AM
Who got better results for America ?

Barbecueboy
01-14-2021, 07:13 AM
The comparison of who dodged more arrows isn't even close........plus Mr Obama didn't have the biggest crime family in the world working against him every step of the way.

kazual
01-14-2021, 08:57 AM
Obama had the now neutered Tea Party all over him along with their donors. Look, I didn’t care for a lot of what he did but to say there weren’t people that had it in for him is blind. Thing that bothers me maybe the most about supporters or adversaries of both the last two presidents is that it’s caused a lot by racial prejudices one way or the other, won’t convince me otherwise.

kazual
01-14-2021, 09:05 AM
BBQ, I enjoy the discussion that you bring along with making me soul searching my own beliefs. But respectfully, comparing the number of people charged and convicted from the last two administrations is what isn’t close. And saying Trump’s minions were railroaded isn’t sufficient, it happened during his administration and with a Justice Department and judges that he appointed.

dirtMAN007
01-14-2021, 09:08 AM
what ?????

Barbecueboy
01-14-2021, 11:26 AM
I'm not trying to compare who had the shadiest associates because they both did....Mr. Obama didn't have near the attacks , embelleshed smears from the media that trump had to endure.

And unfortunately , there are a lot of people these days that still think the news is gospel and isn't manipulated to parrot the owners beliefs.....There is absolutely no comparison between the two presidents and how they were treated by the liberal media demagogues.

The media interference and sway in this past election is what needs to be looked at......strongly looked at.

I echo the same sentiments about enjoying our banter back and forth....I enjoy the civility and the mind exercise as well.

lurker
01-14-2021, 01:51 PM
The FBI is saying there is no evidence of involvement by antifa in the insurrection.

Video fuels questions about 'insider' help for Capitol attack - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6UAbhexIMc


And from previously posted by Rajflyboy.


Utah Man with a History of Organizing Violent Antifa, BLM Protests, Was Inside the Capitol - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/01/07/utah-man-with-a-history-of-organizing-blm-protests-was-inside-the-capitol-n2582766

kazual
01-14-2021, 02:12 PM
BBQ, just as you say the liberal press piled on Trump like maniacs, they were merciless. But look back at the Obama years. Fox, conservative news outlets, and talk show hosts were every bit as snarky just not quite as many in number. Since cable news came along we have evolved a breed of media folks that care little about reporting the news but only about sensationalism, drama, and ratings.

lurker
01-14-2021, 02:54 PM
kazual -

After reading the last few posts from you and Barbecueboy ---- In short, would you agree that there was more overall piling-on of Trump, than there was of Obama?

Barbecueboy
01-14-2021, 02:55 PM
Which all equals up to money.......

And fwiw, saying not quite as many in number is like saying the Grand Canyon is just a hole in the ground......and plus, the fox watchers aren't normally on the govt. hook for assistance or normally entitled whiney bishes that have to get their way no matter what.....so the captive audience of spiteful voting bishes was infinitely larger this time around.

Obama had no picnic.......trump was roasted on the grill the entire time.

Rajflyboy
01-14-2021, 08:00 PM
Klemm and SS have a friend. https://www.dailywire.com/news/left-wing-known-agitator-charged-for-alleged-role-in-capitol-breach

Buford.Justice
01-14-2021, 08:22 PM
BBQ, just as you say the liberal press piled on Trump like maniacs, they were merciless. But look back at the Obama years. Fox, conservative news outlets, and talk show hosts were every bit as snarky just not quite as many in number. Since cable news came along we have evolved a breed of media folks that care little about reporting the news but only about sensationalism, drama, and ratings.

Has Obummer ever been censored? Have Democrats been cancelled for simply supporting Obummer?
Is Obummer a Marxist?

Buford.Justice
01-14-2021, 08:23 PM
That third question actually digs deep into the actual realities facing this nation...

kazual
01-15-2021, 07:15 AM
Lurker, would agree that Trump would win the “pile on” award. It irritated me no end the first two or three years of the Trump presidency, then ole DJT himself caused me to give up trying to validate him, his fascist tendencies and selfishness wore me down. This whole thing started several administrations back, maybe Bush Sr. or slimy Bill Clinton. It progressively gets worse as we go along. My real gripe is media. They are competing for ratings in a market crowded with everything from major networks to pod casts. And they appeal through drama and innuendo. If Democrats think it will calm down when Joe takes office they’re in for a big surprise. News orgs are fighting for their life and will do anything, they no longer report the news, they advance agendas.

Barbecueboy
01-15-2021, 07:23 AM
And Bingo was his name-o..........on the money kaz.

Sad part is , we the people can fix that with the flip of a switch.......turn the button to off.

When people stop watching ,advertisers quit buying space........the end.

Rajflyboy
01-15-2021, 08:19 AM
Trumps policy has been great but he is not the speaker Reagan was.

kazual
01-15-2021, 08:43 AM
Many of Trump’s policies I agree with, more than those of Obama. Trump gets a “B” for content, an “F” for execution, just my opinion. Buford, I’ll disagree respectfully, DJT wasn’t censored he was banned from a privately owned media platform. 1st Amendment protects us from government censorship, not from private business restrictions Many people that supported the bakery that wouldn’t contract with a gay couple now complain about social media banning posts and people. Seems same to me.

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-15-2021, 08:50 AM
AOC says we need a commission to "reign in" the media. I think we all know which media she's talking about and that should scare the heck out of everyone. Said it before, say it again, she's dangerous.

Barbecueboy
01-15-2021, 11:59 AM
That's the first smart thing she's ever said in her life......I agree that the media needs reigned in.

I've been reigning them in for years with my remote......it's called a peaceful protest:)

I'll turn CNN on just to watch dlem and gang deepthroat today's unhinged trump hate but also to catch some of the advertising so I can avoid spending money with them.......it's kinda satisfying.

And I don't have to throw the first brick or light the first match.

Barbecueboy
01-15-2021, 12:01 PM
AOC says we need a commission to "reign in" the media. I think we all know which media she's talking about and that should scare the heck out of everyone. Said it before, say it again, she's dangerous.

She is very blow up doll-ish looking.....and equally as smart.

lurker
01-15-2021, 02:22 PM
I'll turn CNN on just to watch dlem and gang deepthroat today's unhinged trump hate

Don Lemon: Everyone Who Voted For Trump Sided With ‘The Klan,’ ‘Nazis,’ Rioters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs8HY8Lo5wM&list=WL&index=64

lurker
01-15-2021, 02:28 PM
Michael Moore: The Terrorist Attack Is NOT Over. | Rumble with Michael Moore podcast | EP. 153 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQCsVVVknzQ&list=WL&index=63

Well OK then!!!

lurker
01-15-2021, 02:34 PM
“Many of the attackers are still in D.C. They were aided and abetted by certain members of the police, military and Republican party. And Wednesday's terror attack was just a dry run for what they are planning next. Michael Moore shares his latest, urgent thoughts on the terror attack that occurred this week and the one we must prepare for.”


Too many people were likely spreading misinformation on the group.


IIt's up to the person making a positive claim to present truth.

Barbecueboy
01-15-2021, 03:23 PM
Funny to see Mcnugget quips talking about others spreading mis information .........dude couldn't fall on the floor and hit it.

STRONGERTHANDIRT
01-15-2021, 03:53 PM
Joy Reid from MSNBC suggests GOP needs a "de Baathification" from Trump. Guess she wants GOP to be reprogrammed to turn away from Trump?

Buford.Justice
01-15-2021, 09:36 PM
It's all about Marxist Globalists against partiots of freedom and conservatism with religion.

It's cut and clear that Pelosi Schumer and company are evil people.

You cannot save this nation by supporting ANY Democrat policy as they are about to unleash the beginning of our destruction. And some idiot keeps crying orange man bad like some stupid fool.

ZERO25
01-15-2021, 10:22 PM
She is very blow up doll-ish looking.....and equally as smart.

Thats an insult to the blow up dolls SS and Mcnugget get their jollies off with!

Barbecueboy
01-16-2021, 09:00 AM
They have blow up dolls of each other??? That's kinda creepy.

Somehow I feel like they have one of trump propped up in the corner too.

ZERO25
01-16-2021, 12:59 PM
They have blow up dolls of each other??? That's kinda creepy.

Somehow I feel like they have one of trump propped up, NAKED, in the corner too.

Fixed it for ya........:)