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TeNfOMaFiA69
01-30-2021, 08:47 AM
Tmac with the realist interview in the last 10 years in Dirt Late Model racing...

Rigsby: “None of these features have been super clean... why is that?”

Timmy : “cause Nobody has got any respect for anyone out there. They all go in there and all you hear all night long on the announcements or in the Pit Area is “Oh, it’s East Bay... It’s East Bay... I’ll tell you what man, back when I was a kid, and you did stuff like that, you lost your front teeth at the end of the night! Maybe we need more of that. A guy told me that... Steve Shaver told me that there’s no Throat punches happening in the pit area and that’s why guys are driving like they drive and you just go in there and if they see the guy in front of them, they think the best way to do this is to just go in there and brutalize them. And they’re never going to get near me because it’s 2021, you can’t fight anyone anymore. You know... maybe if we had a little bit more of that, maybe people wouldn’t respect each other out there a little more. Fear equals respect... contrary to what anyone (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)in believes!”

Preach!

56GWebbfan
01-30-2021, 09:00 AM
Agree 100%

EvelB7
01-30-2021, 09:21 AM
So true, on another post someone referenced Rick Eckert saying 'they pass on entry now where we use to pass on exit'. Races use to be won by the guy who could get his foot down first; however these cars are so good that there is very little off throttle time, everyone seems to have the unlimited horsepower and a great racecar so look out; the days of drivers being able to use finesse to outshine their competitor are gone (at most tracks, not all). Point, shoot and hope the guy checks up if you didn't quite make it is the new norm it appears. Makes it exciting for the TV though!

GEAR_HEAD
01-30-2021, 09:33 AM
He's right, the liberal pansies have even managed to invade dirt racing. Now if you get into a fight they make you take anger management classes. Dirt racing is turning into NASCAR and the series officials are to blame. Stop getting involved in these scrums and let the situations play themselves out. Everybody will be better off from it.

JabberJaws83
01-30-2021, 09:34 AM
100% correct. No body has to be responsible for their actions anymore with their peers, so nobody gives a $hit. The big series have turned into PC Nascrap.

CIRF
01-30-2021, 09:38 AM
McCreadie speaks the truth.

The bottom line is this, drivers can't really be blamed for doing things they know they won't be held physically accountable for. Tim is obviously correct in saying that when the threat of physical harm is real much of the disrespect will abruptly and distinctly decrease. The sanctioning bodies are at a huge disadvantage for keeping the cowboy tactics in check. Judgement calls, as often as not, only serve to keep the turmoil going.

On the same token, fan interest markedly increases when the tactics get questionable.

intel8
01-30-2021, 09:43 AM
I agree with Tim, it's a product of today's society, NO respect anymore.

Rajflyboy
01-30-2021, 09:48 AM
Tim. Yeah but at the end of the day you got beat.

JabberJaws83
01-30-2021, 09:50 AM
Tim. Yeah but at the end of the day you got beat.

I don't think that was the point of the conversation.

CIRF
01-30-2021, 10:00 AM
I don't think that was the point of the conversation.

Jabber, it's a futile waste of time to attempt to make any sense of it. I've tried.

lurker
01-30-2021, 10:54 AM
CIRF,

Tim is a huge Hockey fan, NY Islanders I believe, and in hockey they have the “code” ----- still. I’ll play you the way you play me, and beware of the consequences. DLM use to be like that, but not any more. I miss guys like Bud Purkey that always knew, you knew, the code too. And the consequences of your on-track actions, when you got back to the pits.

Lurker

BloomerWon
01-30-2021, 11:00 AM
Yep!! What TMac said...

HoosierDirtFan
01-30-2021, 11:12 AM
Tim nailed it. I agree. Let the drivers figure it out. Series officials should stay out of it.

nc mudcat
01-30-2021, 11:20 AM
Tim. Yeah but at the end of the day you got beat.

Just what has that got to do with anything?

CIRF
01-30-2021, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Lurker:

CIRF,

Tim is a huge Hockey fan, NY Islanders I believe, and in hockey they have the “code” ----- still. I’ll play you the way you play me, and beware of the consequences. DLM use to be like that, but not any more. I miss guys like Bud Purkey that always knew, you knew, the code too. And the consequences of your on-track actions, when you got back to the pits.

Lurker

Wasn't aware that McCreadie was a big hockey fan but it stands to reason.

There used to be a code in most sports. Baseball had the unwritten rule that if you attempted to show up a pitcher during a home run trot you could bank on getting put on your ass the next time you dug in against that pitcher. Childish bat flips done by grown men are now accepted and considered normal. It goes on and on. The difference is that nonsense such as bat flips don't cost thousands in equipment repairs.

I don't see the tide turning despite stand up guys like McCreadie speaking their minds. The days of Bill Frye, Jack Hewitt, Tom Rients, Sheldon Kinser, Bob & Steve Kinser are over. Probably forever. The law will get involved if justice is dealt out in the fashion employed by those drivers. It ain't good for the rep of the sport to have the law involved on a regular basis. Bad for business.

davis2902
01-30-2021, 12:37 PM
I agree with Tim, but tracks and series have not helped the situation. What happened to sending a car to the rear if another driver spins them? What happened to the black flag? If the tracks and series will dump the stupid "if your wheels stop you go to the tail rule" and start enforcing clean driving, things will change.

TerryM
01-30-2021, 01:34 PM
I lived in Parkersburg, WV in 1992. My son was born there. I hung out sometimes in the North End Tavern back then. Two guys I hanged with — Balzano and Shaver. I spanked their ass in pool. They spanked mine anything dirt related. Awesome dudes.

84wedge
01-30-2021, 01:35 PM
I agree with Tim, but tracks and series have not helped the situation. What happened to sending a car to the rear if another driver spins them? What happened to the black flag? If the tracks and series will dump the stupid "if your wheels stop you go to the tail rule" and start enforcing clean driving, things will change.There's also the contradictory "if the drivers side door is facing traffic a caution comes out but not if there's a multi car pileup and the same car keeps moving"

B_K
01-30-2021, 02:10 PM
It’s pretty sad really. Nobody should ever go around looking for a fight, but sometimes they’re necessary. Why we’ve gotten to the point where tuning a guy up is seen as a cardinal sin is a joke. You think anybody would rather be dumped in front of the whole field or turned into the wall instead of settling it like men? That’s how you have to settle things now. Soft a$$ society formulated to suit soft a$$ people and it’s sickening.

Pennsboro32
01-30-2021, 02:10 PM
Terry, Good Ol Northend Burger.

t3r3e3
01-30-2021, 03:16 PM
The NET is a cool dive bar. If I’m over in Parkersburg I try to sneak in for a burger and a game or three of pool.

chopter33
01-30-2021, 03:35 PM
biggest whiner in dirt racing. people fight all the time. (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) erb almost ran 2 guys over last year. do something about it and shut up.

WisWildManFan
01-30-2021, 03:56 PM
The dirtiest hockey leagues in the world are leagues that don’t allow fighting. Having to answer physically keeps people actions in check.

TeNfOMaFiA69
01-30-2021, 04:02 PM
biggest whiner in dirt racing. people fight all the time. (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) erb almost ran 2 guys over last year. do something about it and shut up.

Idiot #2 has arrived...

Dlmfan123
01-30-2021, 04:11 PM
Ernie better watch out Shannon buckingham coming for ya 😂😂

chopter33
01-30-2021, 04:27 PM
next week on whine with 39 we hear how dirt latemodel racing is to expensive.

TOPSIDE TIMMY 39FAN
01-30-2021, 04:43 PM
Yep!! What TMac said...

Well well well we finally agree on something. Thats weird.🤓

dirtcrazy4u
01-30-2021, 04:50 PM
Remember Timmy was in the pits with his dad for years. He is right, you pulled crap like that on the track you better have to be able to defend yourself in the pits. It may not happen immediately but finding a guy taking a nap at the end of the night was not unusual. Racing has changed, these cars are store bought

Rajflyboy
01-30-2021, 04:55 PM
Times change. Things change. Be willing to adapt to the new stuff or you will get beat. That being said I am a T Mac fan. 👍

BloomerWon
01-30-2021, 05:16 PM
Well well well we finally agree on something. Thats weird.邏

Go fug yourself bich...
HAHAHAHAHAHA

TerryM
01-30-2021, 05:27 PM
Haha ... we definitely called it THE NET. And don’t forget Nip n Cue downtown. So many good times.

gumby_32d
01-30-2021, 05:49 PM
I agree with Tim, if you race a guy like a d!ckhead and tear up his equipment, you deserve to get your teeth knocked out. It's a better way of dealing with problems instead of sending a guy into the wall at 100+ MPH.

427c.i.
01-30-2021, 05:50 PM
In the late 60’s my dad was in the pits at Peoria and there was a race car that was pretty beat up on the outside. He was looking at it and noticed the interior was extremely nice (for its time). Dad asked the driver why it was so beat up on the outside but so nice on the inside. The driver replied “because “John Connolly hasn’t figured out how to get in there yet!”
Apparently, that driver had put Connolly in the fence early in the year and John spent the rest of the season making sure he remembered it.
Let them police themselves.

BloomerHarvickFan
01-30-2021, 05:59 PM
One thing I have noticed is that that it seems nothing matters on the car, except the nose. 15 years ago, if you had your spoiler half torn off, you were done. now these guys drive so aggressively, they dont care if they rip the quarter panel off, the spoiler off, the side off..as long as that big nose is planted, and the rear of the car itself acts like the spoiler, they drive over their heads and bonzai every corner, every lap.

TeNfOMaFiA69
01-30-2021, 06:06 PM
Ernie better watch out Shannon buckingham coming for ya 

I’m more scared of his wife honestly

TS FAN
01-30-2021, 06:09 PM
IMO one of the reasons for the curbing of fights is to do with exposure of sport on TV apps etc. The old days are gone and not coming back. However if the series is going to curtail fighting then they should penalize bad actors more often.

It is entertaining to see a lot of bump and banging, but there is a bit too much bonzi type racing going on. Tearing up a lot of equipment and even worse many are the back markers struggling to just make laps. T Mac is speaking the truth and facts

TerryM
01-30-2021, 06:10 PM
Correct. She’s definitely wearing the pants in that relationship lol.

TOPSIDE TIMMY 39FAN
01-30-2021, 06:24 PM
Go fug yourself bich...
HAHAHAHAHAHA

🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 now thats fummy right there

Raceready
01-30-2021, 07:26 PM
Remember Timmy was in the pits with his dad for years. He is right, you pulled crap like that on the track you better have to be able to defend yourself in the pits. It may not happen immediately but finding a guy taking a nap at the end of the night was not unusual. Racing has changed, these cars are store boughtOld Barefoot Bob didn't take any crap for sure. He couldn't afford to! He was the Shoestring Traveler of the DIRT modified guys.

Rajflyboy
01-30-2021, 07:29 PM
B Shepp has worn out a few people this week. I don’t see him getting any negative press on it.

TerryM
01-30-2021, 07:39 PM
Because it’s not true.

Jking24
01-30-2021, 07:44 PM
biggest whiner in dirt racing. people fight all the time. (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) erb almost ran 2 guys over last year. do something about it and shut up.Erb also doesn't have a family that relys on his income. But more to the point what was he whining about ? Rigsby asked a question he answered it

TOPSIDE TIMMY 39FAN
01-30-2021, 07:58 PM
Old Barefoot Bob didn't take any crap for sure. He couldn't afford to! He was the Shoestring Traveler of the DIRT modified guys.

Yea it was great watching him pull in pits w open trailer pulled by the pickup or suburban and the car all beat up and he go out and show them the way to the checkered flag.I watched him win a race w a flat lt frt tire at brewerton. Good times.

buster83
01-30-2021, 11:40 PM
Tony Stewart new what his on track actions would be but he must have been paying his body guards really well.

NeedforLM$peed
01-30-2021, 11:47 PM
It's even worse when your pitted next to the guy... Been there before... It wasn't intentional contact either...

Josh Bayko
01-31-2021, 06:50 AM
Old Barefoot Bob didn't take any crap for sure. He couldn't afford to! He was the Shoestring Traveler of the DIRT modified guys.

Just because he used an open trailer when his contemporaries started getting into rugs doesn’t mean he was low budget. His cars and motors were every bit as potent (and expensive) as guys like Hearn or whoever was in Billy Taylor’s stuff. He’s just one of them guys who simply doesn’t believe a hauler makes you faster.

Also, the Barefoot nickname didn’t have anything to do with his perceived lack of funds.

Rajflyboy
01-31-2021, 07:32 AM
The partnership with JD and T Mac is a good one. Should pay dividends this year

MasterSbilt_Racer
01-31-2021, 07:44 AM
One thing I have noticed is that that it seems nothing matters on the car, except the nose. 15 years ago, if you had your spoiler half torn off, you were done. now these guys drive so aggressively, they dont care if they rip the quarter panel off, the spoiler off, the side off..as long as that big nose is planted, and the rear of the car itself acts like the spoiler, they drive over their heads and bonzai every corner, every lap.

Davenport said it cost him a win in the wwso. They are going 25 mph in the features at EB. It still matters at most tracks.

ZERO25
01-31-2021, 08:20 PM
biggest whiner in dirt racing. people fight all the time. (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) erb almost ran 2 guys over last year. do something about it and shut up.

I was told by a reliable source, Big Brother did do something about it!

I believe it was Tuesday nite after the races! Many commented about it on FB!