Clean air act

[NeedforLM$peed]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rztNBzogh4Y

[JimBo]

This is the kind of BS that p1sses me off, and it should you too! Can you imagine going to the electric Late Model races? Me neither. It's coming.

[cjsracing]

If it came to that, why would it matter? If the electric cars go as fast as the gas powered cars then who gives a crap?

[EvelB7]

Understand that it will not be to far into the future that our sport becomes 'socially unacceptable'....We continue to let the standards for all be dictated by the minority, only question is 'how long?'. The next nail will be 'self driving automobiles', at that point the connection to racing a car will make no sense. 100 years ago they raced horses at every county fairgrounds....

[NeedforLM$peed]

This stretches FAR beyond just Dirt LM racing.

[Josh Bayko]

Understand that it will not be to far into the future that our sport becomes 'socially unacceptable'....We continue to let the standards for all be dictated by the minority, only question is 'how long?'. The next nail will be 'self driving automobiles', at that point the connection to racing a car will make no sense. 100 years ago they raced horses at every county fairgrounds....

It already is socially unacceptable to slacktivists who whine about pollution on their iPhones without the slightest bit of self awareness.

[Josh Bayko]

This is the kind of BS that p1sses me off, and it should you too! Can you imagine going to the electric Late Model races? Me neither. It's coming.

This idea that widespread electric cars are coming by 2030 or whatever is extremely naive. The infrastructure to support widespread electric car usage simply does not exist and will take decades to get there.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If it came to that, why would it matter? If the electric cars go as fast as the gas powered cars then who gives a crap?

I don't know how to tune an electric motor.

[84wedge]

This kind of fear mongering has been going on for years. Car racing won't go away, ever.

[TS FAN]

Just keep voting liberals into office and we will all get what we deserve. Liberals are an enemy of auto racing and always have been. Yet some race fans insist on voting them into office.

MAGA

[Josh Bayko]

I don't know how to tune an electric motor.

I’d imagine it’s probably pretty easily done with a laptop

[50Dixon50]

See here we go again with the fear factor i absolutely refuse to live under any kind of fear including this story

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

This kind of fear mongering has been going on for years. Car racing won't go away, ever.

Maybe not, but probably not with ICE engine.

[Buford.Justice]

Maybe not, but probably not with ICE engine.

Use plenty of gold and silver in them. lol

[ZERO25]

If it came to that, why would it matter? If the electric cars go as fast as the gas powered cars then who gives a crap?

Are you serious Clark?

Thats like saying you cant tell the difference between a super and a crate!

[dirtcrazy4u]

Vote every last one out of office. We the people have that power. But instead we moan on a racing board. You keep voting for that guy that's been in office for years. Smack term limits on everyone of these clowns

[Highside Hustler25]

If it came to that, why would it matter? If the electric cars go as fast as the gas powered cars then who gives a crap?
I street race the wife's Prius every now and then.
I don't win much.

[dirtcrazy4u]

Wait till one of these battery powered pcs of crap catches fire and the occupants can't get out. The American public doesn't want this garbage yet it's being driven down our throats.

[Barbecueboy]

This kind of fear mongering has been going on for years. Car racing won't go away, ever.

Nope......

[zyoung25]

I street race the wife's Prius every now and then.
I don't win much.

https://youtu.be/SVC8tXgZhF4

The prius' distant cousin doesn't have an issue winning.

I'm going to hate when the v8 is "phased out" so to say. They can make electric motors that make the same power as the gas, they just won't have the sound. This doesn't mean I'm on board with the clean air act, I hope it never happens.

[davis2902]

I thought this thread was about new body rules...........

[cjsracing]

I street race the wife's Prius every now and then.
I don't win much.

Maybe upgrade to a Tesla then. They are actually pretty sweet.

[cjsracing]

I don't know how to tune an electric motor.

Isn't that what engine builders are for?

Fact is outside of us racers and fans no one really cares or knows much about dirt racing. I have numerous clients who find out I race and have no idea that it even existed. My opinion is that racing is so far down on the totem pole that it'll be a long long time before anything like this affects it.

[EvelB7]

Isn't that what engine builders are for?Fact is outside of us racers and fans no one really cares or knows much about dirt racing. I have numerous clients who find out I race and have no idea that it even existed. My opinion is that racing is so far down on the totem pole that it'll be a long long time before anything like this affects it.Similar to Covid, depends on where you are. Where are you located cjs? Being near Charlotte I can tell you people know motorsports, good side to that is being a big part of our economy puts more on our side of the fence....

[Highside Hustler25]

Maybe upgrade to a Tesla then. They are actually pretty sweet.

I love my wife but...

[cjsracing]

Similar to Covid, depends on where you are. Where are you located cjs? Being near Charlotte I can tell you people know motorsports, good side to that is being a big part of our economy puts more on our side of the fence....

middle of Iowa

[Josh Bayko]

I street race the wife's Prius every now and then.
I don't win much.

Interesting enough, Toyota’s entries in the GT300 division of SuperGT over in Japan is the Prius. All them years Toyota hybrid LMP domination has trickled down the line.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Isn't that what engine builders are for?

Fact is outside of us racers and fans no one really cares or knows much about dirt racing. I have numerous clients who find out I race and have no idea that it even existed. My opinion is that racing is so far down on the totem pole that it'll be a long long time before anything like this affects it.

Some of us don't run out and drop 45k to power our LM.

[cjsracing]

Some of us don't run out and drop 45k to power our LM.

I never have either. The most I've paid for a engine is $12K.

[FlatTire]

Keep voting for Biden and those like him and the libtard left will continue to have a voice. The high performance aftermarket industry is huge and needs to organize just like the NRA.

[84wedge]

I thought this thread was about new body rules...........lol. I kinda did too.

[EvelB7]

middle of IowaLooks to me like you may want to watch out yourself, Iowa seems way more liberal than when I was a kid along the river. Instead of cars label them tractors and you may get a few more years...

[Barbecueboy]

Some sections of Iowa are liberal super spreader communities......Mcnugget , this is where you have some expertise....step on in.

[Action10]

Racing isn't going anywhere. It may continue to change (for better or worse), but will still be around. Somebody referenced horse racing earlier, which is still around and big business in some parts of the country. Heck, professional wrestling still exist.

[LeafMaster41]

If it came to that, why would it matter? If the electric cars go as fast as the gas powered cars then who gives a crap?

Everyone should give a crap because its only part of what they have planned for us and you won't like it and I doubt they'll be ANY racing anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgIYd23hemk

With Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 and now The Great Reset nobody is gonna be racing anything. They intend for the end of private property, including cars, homes, appliances and phones. The new economic format will be smart cities and driverless cars, with social scores determining just how many privileges you get. You residence will be a shared residence with people you don't know occupying your space while you are at work. Food will be portioned and synthetic meat will be a luxury you only get on special occasions and it will come from a factory, not an animal. The rest of the food will be grown on Bill Gates owned farms(He is now the largest farmland owner in the US) and the farming robots he's been developing will do the work. Your smart phone will be leased to you as well and it will be used to monitor your location 24/7 and monitor what you say and hear as well as who you are in contact with. Remember the updates they installed for contact tracing(CCP-19)?

I know this all sounds crazy, but I'm not the one saying it, they are, so you better pay attention and give a crap about whats being don'e and pull your heads out of the sand. They are rearranging the economy as we speak, the dollar is being destroyed at break neck speed and simply hoping to vote them out in 2022/2024 is waiting too long. The fight is now and its for more than racing around in circles on dirt, its about freedom and liberty and all those principles this country was founded on. We can't afford to dismiss these ideas anymore as conspiracy theories, its conspiracy fact and you and your families lives hang in the balance...

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Racing isn't going anywhere. It may continue to change (for better or worse), but will still be around. Somebody referenced horse racing earlier, which is still around and big business in some parts of the country. Heck, professional wrestling still exist.

The only reason horse racing isn't gone is those folks have money and know senators.

[Highside Hustler25]

Yeah, I got as far as the farting crow. That was enough for me.
If it's on the internet, then it has to be true. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Racing isn't going anywhere.

[Action10]

Yeah, I got as far as the farting crow. That was enough for me. If it's on the internet, then it has to be true. 藍藍藍藍Racing isn't going anywhere.Thank you for being sensible... That is becoming less and less on this forum

[Highside Hustler25]

Thank you for being sensible... That is becoming less and less on this forum

They still have dog racing in the US. Been trying to stop that for years.

[Highside Hustler25]

People getting brainwashed by Utoob vids. So sad.🙄

[Action10]

The only reason horse racing isn't gone is those folks have money and know senators.And racing doesn't have people with money apparently now.....

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

And racing doesn't have people with money apparently now.....

My local dirt track doesn't have those type of folks.

Forrest Lucas is all dirt has.

[Action10]

My local dirt track doesn't have those type of folks.Forrest Lucas is all dirt has.I know I am contributing to this madness by responding, but comments like this are what drives me insane. Does your local dirt track EVER host anything other than a regular, weekly show? If yes, then you and all other race fans in your area benefit from the money in racing.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I know I am contributing to this madness by responding, but comments like this are what drives me insane. Does your local dirt track EVER host anything other than a regular, weekly show? If yes, then you and all other race fans in your area benefit from the money in racing.

I have no idea what you are talking about?

I'm saying that small dirt tracks have nothing to protect them from future legislation and that dirt racing in general doesn't have much clout. I have no idea what you are trying to read into that.

[Action10]

I have no idea what you are talking about?I'm saying that small dirt tracks have nothing to protect them from future legislation and that dirt racing in general doesn't have much clout. I have no idea what you are trying to read into that.It seems like you are jumping from idea to idea... First, the only money in racing is Forrest Lucas and nothing else. It seems like your logic is jumping around based on the pushback I gave.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

It seems like you are jumping from idea to idea... First, the only money in racing is Forrest Lucas and nothing else. It seems like your logic is jumping around based on the pushback I gave.

My opinion has not changed. I'm waiting on some list of facts to sway me.

This a a forum. Replies are quick and about one point. I didn't write a manifesto laying out my whole philosophy.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

They still have dog racing in the US. Been trying to stop that for years.

The biggest state for dog racing lost all of theirs. That was 64% of the remaining tracks lost in one year. We live in a time of mob democracy. Sacred cows can be lost quickly with a change in public sentiment.

[Action10]

My opinion has not changed. I'm waiting on some list of facts to sway me.Maybe I'm confused, so my apologies. What is your opinion?You started with horse racing only existing because of money and senators, then dirt late model racing only has Forrest Lucas and the tracks don't have any protection. I am seeing a lot more in dirt late model racing than just Forrest Lucas, but would like to hear more about your point of view.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Maybe I'm confused, so my apologies. What is your opinion?You started with horse racing only existing because of money and senators, then dirt late model racing only has Forrest Lucas and the tracks don't have any protection. I am seeing a lot more in dirt late model racing than just Forrest Lucas, but would like to hear more about your point of view.

The mob rules our democracy these days. We participate in a sport that is very disgusting to climate minded people. When we get in the cross hairs of climate and cancel culture, we are in big trouble. There are not many wealthy and politically connected folks to defend what we do.

So far horse racing has had enough of those types of people. I think they have a lot more of them than dirt racing does. I also think PETA isn't as powerful as New Green Deal agenda.

[jr29]

Most people on this board are looking for reasons to blame democrats and liberals for things they don't like. That's all it is.
Nashville is a liberal city with a liberal mayor and it is becoming more liberal every day. The liberals in control have worked with the fairgrounds racetrack to keep the place open. It sounds like they are even taking steps to get NASCAR back. How about that for a bunch of socialists and commies.

[Action10]

The mob rules our democracy these days. We participate in a sport that is very disgusting to climate minded people. When we get in the cross hairs of climate and cancel culture, we are in big trouble. There are not many wealthy and politically connected folks to defend what we do.So far horse racing has had enough of those types of people. I think they have a lot more of them than dirt racing does. I also think PETA isn't as powerful as New Green Deal agenda.Wow, okay.

[Action10]

Most people on this board are looking for reasons to blame democrats and liberals for things they don't like. That's all it is.Nashville is a liberal city with a liberal mayor and it is becoming more liberal every day. The liberals in control have worked with the fairgrounds racetrack to keep the place open. It sounds like they are even taking steps to get NASCAR back. How about that for a bunch of socialists and commies.Well said.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Most people on this board are looking for reasons to blame democrats and liberals for things they don't like. That's all it is.
Nashville is a liberal city with a liberal mayor and it is becoming more liberal every day. The liberals in control have worked with the fairgrounds racetrack to keep the place open. It sounds like they are even taking steps to get NASCAR back. How about that for a bunch of socialists and commies.

People don't have to be socialist or commie to not value something I do. My favorite US city is a Blue dot in a red state. Things are changing whether you choose to see it or not.

[jr29]

People don't have to be socialist or commie to not value something I do. My favorite US city is a Blue dot in a red state. Things are changing whether you choose to see it or not.

Suburban expansion is a way bigger challenge for the future of dirt track racing. Not democrats, not the Clean Air Act, not the Green New Deal. It's hard to blame liberals for a subdivision though.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Suburban expansion is a way bigger challenge for the future of dirt track racing. Not democrats, not the Clean Air Act, not the Green New Deal. It's hard to blame liberals for a subdivision though.

On a track by track basis, you are correct.
That's not what the final death will come from, however.

[EvelB7]

This post was started about the clean air act and effect on dirt late model racing, hence the replies about liberals and our government. I agree that there are a lot of other challenges for motor sports (funny, probably should be 'engine sports'), but the topic was directly pointed at conversation on this political agenda.

[Action10]

On a track by track basis, you are correct.That's not what the final death will come from, however.Death blow has been called... We also are killing the rainforests with all of the hardwood basketball courts and wooden baseball bats, so those two will be the next sports to go.....

[jr29]

Canada and Australia are way more liberal in their thinking and policy making than we are here. A conservative there is pretty liberal here. They still race. They race a lot in Canada.
There is room for compromise. Making blanket accusations about liberals does not help.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Death blow has been called... We also are killing the rainforests with all of the hardwood basketball courts and wooden baseball bats, so those two will be the next sports to go.....

You are hilarious. Rain forests are burned down for agriculture use.

[Action10]

You are hilarious. Rain forests are burned down for agriculture use.That was my point... Your argument about racing is similar to the rainforest claim I was providing.Please get out more....

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

That was my point... Your argument about racing is similar to the rainforest claim I was providing.Please get out more....

I get out plenty. Investment in petroleum industry stocks is no longer allowed in many union retirement systems, pubic employee retirement systems, and the like. All subsidy is about to be lost. Frivolous carbon use is under attack.

I'm not saying it's gone in my lifetime, but it will some day not be possible to burn fossil fuels to power your dirt track toy.

I'm laying out facts. Not making silly jokes.

I think Lucas' "Protect the Harvest" PAC is a bit dumb, but he doesn't.

[LeafMaster41]

Most people on this board are looking for reasons to blame democrats and liberals for things they don't like. That's all it is.
Nashville is a liberal city with a liberal mayor and it is becoming more liberal every day. The liberals in control have worked with the fairgrounds racetrack to keep the place open. It sounds like they are even taking steps to get NASCAR back. How about that for a bunch of socialists and commies.

Oh. Okay then, my apologies, everything is fine. Kinda like saying, "There is no evidence of voter fraud, I called and asked them. They said nothing to see, so its all good." It amazes me how little urgency there is around about things, like everything is no big deal and they just ignore all the evidence because a talking head on CNN or MSNBC or FOX said that nothing happened or how different things get covered differently depending political leaning and/or skin color.

There was a sprint car race that was run last spring, I forget which sanction, but they observed all the silly useless guidelines and mask wearing BS, like good little lemmings, but when the MSM reported on it they used footage from the year before so they could show no one wearing a masks and turn public opinion against them. This happens alot, more and more. They use media as a weapon to direct public opinion and like MastersbiltRacer said, when they get dirt racing in their cross hairs that'll be it.

The economy, our way of life and our freedoms are being taken, some without even bothering to pass a law or vote, just by flicking a pen in some agency. This is serious. Yes, I used a youtube video for demonstration because it was handy, but my research goes much further and much deeper.

In case you haven't noticed racial equality has been abandoned and all across the country open racism against white people is the new trend. A Boston hospital today announced they are going to start prioritizing care based on race, guess who's last? Critical Race Theory is a thing. Wake up, the time for sleeping has passed.

[GRT32]

All Cadillac are electric by 2025 and all jaguars will be in 2027, people keep voting demoncrats in and the country is done

[mcarter815]

We will eventually run out of ICE parts like we are running out of g-body frames for stock car chassis. Once every personal vehicle goes electric, costs for ICE race engines will shoot through the roof and grass roots racing won't be able to afford anything but electric motors.

[mcarter815]

All Cadillac are electric by 2025 and all jaguars will be in 2027, people keep voting demoncrats in and the country is done

The rest of the world is going electric. The companies are going where the money is.

[ZERO25]

The democrats are going where the money is.....


......to hell in a hand basket!


Fixed it for ya!

[dirtcrazy4u]

But yet Biden won. Today's politic's are a joke. Trump, did I like him as a person. O h*ll no. BUT, see if you can deny this. He brought corporate money back to america, oil prices where at a all time low, your investments where at a all time high, unemployment was at a all time low, interest rates low. FACTS. Yet this frivolous old man won. There walking in groups across the boarder people. Rant over. Vote every last one of them out of office, only then will the AMERICAN voice be heard.

[lurker]

The rest of the world is going electric.

As you quoted and EV specific statement --- your quote above is simply not true, and nothing more than biased propaganda from a non-factual talking point.

Case in point #1, the 4th largest Continent.

The Amazon region of Brazil in South America, as well as the Northern part of South America, will certainly NOT be going to EV’s, period.

Case in point #2.

Asia, as a whole, the Largest Continent, and Africa as a whole, the 2nd largest Continent, will certainly NOT be going to EV’s, period. Neither will Mexico as a whole or Australia as a whole.

You need to travel some of the real World before you decide to leave the good ol’ USA, and before your girlfriend finishes College.

[LeafMaster41]

The rest of the world is going electric. The companies are going where the money is.

It has nothing to do with, "following the money..." Its tail wagging the dog. The whole world is being forced to go electric, there is a difference. They tried doing it through lies about the Global Warming/Climate Change, but not enough people fell for it so they simply switched tactics. Wake up, don't be a lemming.

[Action10]

https://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2015/06/19/the-origins-of-murica-satire-or-just-sad/

[Action10]

https://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2015/06/19/the-origins-of-murica-satire-or-just-sad/This thread is looking like the stereotype of crazy, nutty race fans are and what mainstream people roll their eyes at.....

[84wedge]

You guys do know the whole world was forced to use oil forever by large conglomerates that bought out or squashed any new technology right? You think JP Morgan was some sort of saint? I don't care if cars are running on electricity or hydrogen, I'm there. Remember this clip from the Simpsons? It's a more than accurate representation of electric cars as portrayed by the propaganda machine of big oil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcmZ1dof3Qw

[lurker]

It has nothing to do with, "following the money..." Its tail wagging the dog. The whole world is being forced to go electric, there is a difference. They tried doing it through lies about the Global Warming/Climate Change, but not enough people fell for it so they simply switched tactics. Wake up, don't be a lemming.

LeafMaster41 -

I’d sense you and I are close to being on the same page. That being said, “The whole world is being forced to go electric”, doesn’t fly with me either. With “forced” being the key word.

Again, the Continent of Brazil as one example. Brazil as a Continent will NOT be forced to go EV’s as the Brazil as a whole is waaaay to dependant on its offshore oil drilling, (which was underperforming as of 2014 per Petrobras and was importing refined oil for gas and diesel from the USA and India) as well as the Worlds largest sugar cane producer, sugar cane made into Ethanol, thus fuels for its automobiles. Brazil as a whole Continent will not go EV’s, while the likes of Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro, might have EV charging stations --- If mcarter815 or anyone else can find me a EV charging station in the vast Amazon jungle regions of Ruropolis Pará in Brazil in 20whatever, I will gladly retract my statements.

The World going to all EV’s by 20XX whenever is simply naive and foolish thinking with no facts.

lurker

[c1ty5tar]

“Again, the Continent of Brazil as one example.”
“Brazil as a Continent will NOT be forced...”
“Brazil as a whole Continent will not go EV’s, while the likes of Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro...”

Ah yes, Brazil, the 8th continent on Earth.

[84wedge]

Come mothers and fathers throughout the land and don't criticize what you can't understand. Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command. Your old road is rapidly agin'. Please get out of the new one if you can't lend your hand for the times they are a-changin'

[lurker]

c1ty5tar -

My original statement in post #68 -


Case in point #1, the 4th largest Continent.

The Amazon region of Brazil in South America, as well as the Northern part of South America, will certainly NOT be going to EV’s, period.


Interesting you selectively left that part out of your retort. Sorry if you didn’t follow my intent with staying with my original statement thought-out my postings.

[c1ty5tar]

I saw that. Just didn’t fit my narrative.

I mean when you refer to it as a continent three times, I’d say the sentence that you quoted was probably copied from the internet somewhere.

[lurker]

I saw that. Just didn’t fit my narrative.

At least you’re honest. You saw it and left it out, intentionally.


I mean when you refer to it as a continent three times, I’d say the sentence that you quoted was probably copied from the internet somewhere.

Nope, no cut and paste.

[lurker]

c1ty5tar - Now would you like to jump into this conversation or are you just trolling 4m?

[Action10]

It has nothing to do with, "following the money..." Its tail wagging the dog. The whole world is being forced to go electric, there is a difference. They tried doing it through lies about the Global Warming/Climate Change, but not enough people fell for it so they simply switched tactics. Wake up, don't be a lemming.Between your last two posts on here, I'm not sure what in the wide, wide world of sports you are talking about

[lurker]

I’ve followed what LeafMaster41 said just fine.

[c1ty5tar]

c1ty5tar - Now would you like to jump into this conversation or are you just trolling 4m?

I don’t think getting into this thread for anything in depth is worth my time. There’s a lot of Newsmax/Fox News brainwashed idiots in here clutching their petrol pearls. They are misguided and narrow minded. One of those things about not arguing with idiots because they will drag you down or something like that. But that’s also not saying the other end of the spectrum is the right one either. More like if you are taking a hard line and not open to conversation and information, regardless of the side you are on, you are what’s wrong with everything. And that’s the majority of what I’m seeing in this thread. Some are willing to discuss, but most are simpletons.

[lurker]

c1ty5tar - Asked and answered, you were/are 1) just tolling this particular thread and 2) diligently and purposely trying to embarrass someone while adding no value at all to the discussion in-hand.

[c1ty5tar]

c1ty5tar - Asked and answered, you were/are 1) just tolling this particular thread and 2) diligently and purposely trying to embarrass someone while adding no value at all to the discussion in-hand.

1) You got me.
2) Don’t sell yourself short buddy, you did just fine yourself.

[lurker]

No problem, c1ty5tar

You didn’t embarrass me, you just made yourself look totally foolish trying to embarrass me. I can’t help it that you cannot follow beginning “context” through out postings in the same thread. That’s on you.

And you’re right, this thread isn’t for you. You out’ed yourself for what you really are, with the epitome of what you suggest you despise when you said -


There’s a lot of Newsmax/Fox News brainwashed idiots in here ---


They are misguided and narrow minded.


but most are simpletons.

[c1ty5tar]

But I don’t even like Newsmax.

[84wedge]

Why don't you two just get a room already, the $exuaI tension is palpable.

[c1ty5tar]

Why don't you two just get a room already, the $exuaI tension is palpable.

My jimmies are thoroughly rustled.

[dirtMAN007]

No SH!t ? You serious ?

[Highside Hustler25]

Need to go to the tailgate section. They can sniff each others butts in privacy.

[lurker]

You’re telling me this isn’t the Tailgate section? Well that explains it.

[Mod Runner]

What I have observed over the last ten years is that farmers cut down almost any tree that will allow them to gain a few more acres of farm land. Already farmers produce more grain than is consumed. Hence farm subsidies. Brazil has already cut down a third of their rain forest. We need more trees planted instead of cutting trees down. ICE cars are already polluting the air a lot less than 20 years ago , yet the politicians want to drive up the cost of ICE cars by putting more stricter rules on the ICE engines. Once the price of gas is increased by taxes so high , we will all be forced to go electric.

[Buford.Justice]

Everyone should give a crap because its only part of what they have planned for us and you won't like it and I doubt they'll be ANY racing anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgIYd23hemk

With Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 and now The Great Reset nobody is gonna be racing anything. They intend for the end of private property, including cars, homes, appliances and phones. The new economic format will be smart cities and driverless cars, with social scores determining just how many privileges you get. You residence will be a shared residence with people you don't know occupying your space while you are at work. Food will be portioned and synthetic meat will be a luxury you only get on special occasions and it will come from a factory, not an animal. The rest of the food will be grown on Bill Gates owned farms(He is now the largest farmland owner in the US) and the farming robots he's been developing will do the work. Your smart phone will be leased to you as well and it will be used to monitor your location 24/7 and monitor what you say and hear as well as who you are in contact with. Remember the updates they installed for contact tracing(CCP-19)?

I know this all sounds crazy, but I'm not the one saying it, they are, so you better pay attention and give a crap about whats being don'e and pull your heads out of the sand. They are rearranging the economy as we speak, the dollar is being destroyed at break neck speed and simply hoping to vote them out in 2022/2024 is waiting too long. The fight is now and its for more than racing around in circles on dirt, its about freedom and liberty and all those principles this country was founded on. We can't afford to dismiss these ideas anymore as conspiracy theories, its conspiracy fact and you and your families lives hang in the balance...

People seem to be unaware of these Agendas or they believe it's a lot of nonsense. This is a big reason we keep getting closer to the reality that it's all true, when it's too late. People need to get educated, which is difficult with the media lying and censoring and the internet censoring the truth.

It's coming down to the people "US" to stop all of this before it is too late and our guns and freedoms are taken away.

[Buford.Justice]

The rest of the world is going electric. The companies are going where the money is.

The rest of the world is messed up. Electric agendas are not about progress, they are about a Globalist/Communist takeover. One of the tools of doing just that.

You support electric, so you are actually against dirt racing, or any racing period as far as that goes.

[Buford.Justice]

Most people on this board are looking for reasons to blame democrats and liberals for things they don't like. That's all it is.
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Don't have to look, they are to blame. You want reasons? You don't listen to them!!

[84wedge]

Mods need to move this. This is not about DLM racing.

[LeafMaster41]

People seem to be unaware of these Agendas or they believe it's a lot of nonsense. This is a big reason we keep getting closer to the reality that it's all true, when it's too late. People need to get educated, which is difficult with the media lying and censoring and the internet censoring the truth.

It's coming down to the people "US" to stop all of this before it is too late and our guns and freedoms are taken away.

That was my point too. If it was a free market situation where the electric cars are just better and people are buying them because they fill a need it would be fine. But the facts are its anything but free market, like you said they manipulate things to force the populous in a desired direction. They use subsidies to get the price more acceptable on the electric side, all kinds of special considerations to make them attractive. Then on the ICE side they manipulate the market to drive up fuel costs with taxes and shutting down pipelines. It has nothing to do whatsoever with the environment, its about money, power and control, but because I do research and read and check into things, then I'm an idiot and part of a problem. My only problem is I don't like being lied to or manipulated, let me choose. No worries, this is my last post on the subject anyway.

“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.” Matthew 7:6

[Rajflyboy]

The cars will make background noise.

[tsand]

both GM and Ford have said by 2035 neither would be producing gas power automobles

[Josh Bayko]

both GM and Ford have said by 2035 neither would be producing gas power automobles

And they’ll push those dates back, because the infrastructure, particularly in the cities, still won’t exist by then.

[Barbecueboy]

both GM and Ford have said by 2035 neither would be producing gas power automobles

People say lots of things when trying to impress shareholders.......

[dirtcrazy4u]

Gee so if you want to go to eldora but you live in Georgia and your ride is plug to drive just how far do you think your going to go to get there ? So the lines at the plug to drive stations will be so long your going to need 2 days just to get there. Fun Fun Fun

[Barbecueboy]

When we only have electric cars available, people will be racing them too.......it's a non issue

[ZERO25]

Don't have to look, they are to blame. You want reasons? You don't listen to them!!

Bingo.......but their hatred has them blinded!

Pretty sure it was written about 2,000 years ago!

[lurker]

'Batteries run flat' in electronic car race - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCgTFdwQCGI

"give me a good old-fashioned Aussie supercar any day"