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dirtracing62
08-03-2021, 12:00 PM
Other than money, why is the Cedar Lake race not included with the normal Dirtvision package? Everything else, including Knoxville if you have the yearly package, is there.

thexfactor0210
08-03-2021, 12:15 PM
Yeah that sucks. I know it was announced before and has been that way for years. I forgot about it and was looking forward to watching this weekend since I cannot attend in person. Not gonna pay another 60 bucks though when i alteady bought the fastpass.

Tireguy17
08-03-2021, 12:48 PM
I will guess that DoD has a contract for X years to broadcast the event....? Maybe?

Action10
08-03-2021, 02:14 PM
I will guess that DoD has a contract for X years to broadcast the event....? Maybe?Is it actually available on DoD or Flo? I was thinking all WoO races were dirtvision

Highside Hustler25
08-03-2021, 04:16 PM
I don't think it's available on Flo/DOD.

plunks7
08-03-2021, 04:48 PM
I have it listed on DirtVision. They also updated the web page.

Dlmfan123
08-03-2021, 04:48 PM
My guess is the track wants ppv money. And with the way the "fast pass" works the tracks get no money

IL LM Fan
08-03-2021, 05:31 PM
$59.99 for all three days on Dirtvision.

Tireguy17
08-03-2021, 06:57 PM
My bad on the DoD comment…..forgot that they don’t have the event anymore. #brainfade :)

TBSprintFan
08-03-2021, 09:58 PM
$59.99 for all three days on Dirtvision.

That is not worth an extra $60. for 3 nights with maybe 40 some cars. Just won't look at any results and stay up a little later like last year and watch it in the exclusive section once it is done for the night .

champion24
08-05-2021, 11:47 AM
So even with the Platinum Fast pass, DV still charges another $60 for USA Nats? For some reason, I thought all the races were included now.

Pennsboro32
08-05-2021, 12:01 PM
Yeah not worth it to me either. I cancelled my fast pass this week since Summer Nats are basically over as well as PDC.

deadringer
08-05-2021, 12:10 PM
I cancelled mine too!! Cedar lake can kiss a D16K on the lips!! Lucas oil and Flo are not nearly as expensive and I feel Lucas has way better fields. Yes, I know Dirtvision has Summer Nationals but most of those races are over.

kazual
08-05-2021, 12:35 PM
I cancelled mine too!! Cedar lake can kiss a D16K on the lips!! Lucas oil and Flo are not nearly as expensive and I feel Lucas has way better fields. Yes, I know Dirtvision has Summer Nationals but most of those races are over.Doubt Cedar Lake gives one hoot what you think.

LM1
08-05-2021, 12:50 PM
Greedy CLS track owners

Packin' Meat
08-05-2021, 01:15 PM
Greedy CLS track ownersYou're right. How dare a track owner want to make sure that they are able to operate and hold a "crown jewel" event every year. They struggle to bring in cars because of geographic challenges. Cedar Lake is hands down one of the best facilities in the Midwest. Why do so many people complain about tracks/owners/people in general who want to see the sport survive in a declining time? It's not like this is an Eldora or Knoxville who are holding their hands out for more money. Nobody forces people to pay for this. Another thing to consider is that Dirtvision are the ones charging for this. I would be willing to bet that they are making money by doing this too.

LM1
08-05-2021, 02:02 PM
You couldn't pack one more person into the grandstands there on Friday or Saturday, I am sure they make out ok with the USA Nationals.

MRM
08-05-2021, 02:08 PM
I'm surprised more of the tracks that have these marquee events don't try something like this. Tracks don't get squat from these streaming deals. If they lose some fans who opt to stay home, that's take-in money they've lost.

champion24
08-05-2021, 06:40 PM
They got me! Where's the 3 night $60 option?

IL LM Fan
08-05-2021, 06:44 PM
They got me! Where's the 3 night $60 option?https://www.dirtvision.tv/checkout/usa-nationals-3-day-package/purchase

TerryM
08-05-2021, 06:46 PM
They charge you almost $500/year, then make one of their marquee events a separate PPV? That’s ridiculous.

56GWebbfan
08-05-2021, 07:16 PM
Not an extra $1 from me....unreal. Support your local track! Greedy, greedy, greedy. And I drove 5 hours for this race multiple times!

waaac77
08-05-2021, 11:19 PM
It really is bs that the tracks make no money from PPV. If you ask me, that’s robbery not the $60 they ask on top. If the track wasn’t there then DirtVision, Mav, etc… can’t operate as a business. How in gods green earth do the tracks not take in revenue from PPV?

intel8
08-05-2021, 11:29 PM
Tracks should get a cut PPV money. If it was my track I tell Dirt Vision to take a hike!

Drpepsi
08-06-2021, 01:59 AM
This guy says the track's make the money from ppv.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6VR9H-Iko0

GregA12
08-06-2021, 02:11 AM
https://www.dirtvision.tv/checkout/usa-nationals-3-day-package/purchase

I’m here at the event and it’s crazy busy here. the heat races were pretty good. Agreed on Dirtvision. Maybe it was in print but it feels like a bait and switch.
Poor management there.

riddle28
08-06-2021, 06:23 AM
the tracks need to take control of getting money out of their ppv sales, if it wasnt for nascars massive tv deal they wouldve been in trouble years ago. dirt vision is the highest priced and the lowest quality streaming of the 3 out there i subscribed to, i cancelled soon as i got to work this morning and will spend that money at a local track this weekend

zyoung25
08-06-2021, 06:45 AM
I'm sure a lot of people will be in agreence with me over this. If the race wasn't covered by dirtvision, we would gladly pay the 60 and not complain. It would be not any different than when DoD covered some of these races a few years ago.

Pennsboro32
08-06-2021, 07:37 AM
I'm sure a lot of people will be in agreence with me over this. If the race wasn't covered by dirtvision, we would gladly pay the 60 and not complain. It would be not different than when DoD covered some of these races a few years ago.

I agree with this.

MRM
08-06-2021, 08:54 AM
Tracks should get a cut PPV money. If it was my track I tell Dirt Vision to take a hike!

I think it's in the contract with the series. No PPV, no race.

BTExpress
08-06-2021, 09:04 AM
Funny how the sprint car fans are moaning and groaning on their message boards that they will have to pay $125 extra to watch the four days of The Knoxville Nationals next week as that is also not covered in the Dirtvision Platinum package. I believe the Knoxville Nationals and the USA Nationals are the only two major races not part of the deal. Folks we are spoiled. Both Dirtvision & Flo are both well worth the money. Go back only a few years ago and you would be spending a heck of a lot more paying "per race" for only a handful of races. People just love to complain. Think of what the out of pocket costs would be to attend Cedar Lake this weekend, between tickets, gas, food, lodging etc. $59.99 is a bargain in my book.

DustinJ14
08-06-2021, 10:19 AM
Tracks don't get squat from these streaming deals.

That is 100% not true.

LM1
08-06-2021, 10:21 AM
Thank you Dustin, I knew that was the case but was hoping someone who was plugged in could comment.

TerryM
08-06-2021, 10:30 AM
I'm sure a lot of people will be in agreence with me over this. If the race wasn't covered by dirtvision, we would gladly pay the 60 and not complain. It would be not any different than when DoD covered some of these races a few years ago.
Agreence? Totally agree with your point — and I’ll add another one. If DV didn’t charge 3 or 4 times/year more than every other streaming service, I’d gladly occasionally do the $60 PPV, no problem. But the $500/year, combined with the worst announcers in the sport, makes this a definite two thumbs down for me. I’ll get the results next week when my MAARN arrives in the mail.

TerryM
08-06-2021, 10:31 AM
That is 100% not true.
I was waiting on one of you to rebuttal that. Thanks, DJ.