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Knowitall93w
09-25-2021, 01:13 AM
What a mess that was

Rollover
09-25-2021, 05:39 AM
what happened?

Hoosier_Dirt
09-25-2021, 06:00 AM
Gilpin slid across the nose of Owens in 2 banged him down the backstretch. Owens had enough,punted Gilpin in 3-4 almost turned Gilpin over. Never in all my years seen Owens do anything like that,but Gilpin had it coming IMO!

T3GJason47
09-25-2021, 06:36 AM
I wish Gilpin would of flipped!

Pennsboro32
09-25-2021, 06:39 AM
Gilpin is a clown.

waaac77
09-25-2021, 07:40 AM
I thought it was a good move by Gilpin, see that stuff all of the time… ALL OF THE TIME! Watch Kyle Larson. Not sure why Jimmy got all bent outta shape about it. He had room beneath him on the backstretch and could’ve earned good points but took himself and Gilpin out. Surprised but probably just a culmination of a rough season by the 20. He’ll have a much better season next year

JabberJaws83
09-25-2021, 08:35 AM
Jimmy falls into that category of he can dish it out but can’t take it

JimBo
09-25-2021, 09:50 AM
I cheered when Jimmy punted him. Gilpin deserved it.

drich24
09-25-2021, 09:52 AM
Jabber,

That ranks up there with the most preposterous statement of the year.

Owens is right up there with T Mac on racing people as clean as possible and giving people room to race.

IL LM Fan
09-25-2021, 09:54 AM
https://twitter.com/ScottieMc33/status/1441750832643510277 Scottie Mc@ScottieMc33Y’all wanted a replay. Here’s the replay.

JabberJaws83
09-25-2021, 09:56 AM
Jabber,

That ranks up there with the most preposterous statement of the year.

Owens is right up there with T Mac on racing people as clean as possible and giving people room to race.

You should watch some Eldora B mains

Highside Hustler25
09-25-2021, 10:30 AM
Gilpin followed Jimmy for quite a few laps and Owens never left the top. Gilpin surely knew he'd be there. Kind of a cheap move on Gilpins part. Still surprised Jimmy popped his cork. Maybe he lost his doublemint gum when he run up the back of Devin.

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-25-2021, 10:57 AM
You should watch some Eldora B mains

I saw 83 run over Jimmy in a B main. Then Jimmy gave it back.

zyoung25
09-25-2021, 11:32 AM
Its a product of how guys race each other now days. Gilpin knew that was probably his only shot at getting around Jimmy and went for it. Gilpin has also been pulling moves like that since his mod days. Ask Joey Kramer, he was on the receiving end of several of them.

I still feel lile if you have made Jimny Owens that mad, you have accomplished something. That dude has never gotten sideways with anyone ans retaliated like that.

SJA #1
09-25-2021, 12:56 PM
Typical Bobby P type slider. Kind of dumb. Deserved to get dumped.

obamaracing#1
09-25-2021, 01:57 PM
I was shocked to see a national touring guy do that, let alone Owens. It got kinda dangerous, Owens most of been beyond p1ssed. Unfortunately we don't see this much anymore.

Drop Shock
09-25-2021, 02:09 PM
If the roles were reversed Lucas Oil would have parked Gilpin for the weekend. It was bad

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-25-2021, 02:18 PM
If the roles were reversed Lucas Oil would have parked Gilpin for the weekend. It was bad

They do take care of their own, in all respects...

MUD MAESTRO
09-25-2021, 04:10 PM
Jimmy gave Gilpin a symbolic poke in the nose. Take that you young punk...…I'm Jimmy Owens, your not.

Krooser
09-25-2021, 08:39 PM
The Kid may have learned a lesson...

james white
09-25-2021, 10:21 PM
Watch again he slid up in front of Jimmy,he could have went around and not run in the back of him,

james white
09-25-2021, 10:26 PM
He slid up in front of Jimmy,and he did not have to run in the back of him,just turn under,and pass him back

Dlmfan123
09-25-2021, 10:40 PM
The Kid may have learned a lesson...Sounds like he ran Thornton over in the heat race today too

nc mudcat
09-26-2021, 06:22 AM
I wish Gilpin would of flipped!

What an idiotic thing to say.

Pennsboro32
09-26-2021, 06:40 AM
He didn’t even give jimmy enough room to turn down. He parked it right on his nose.

james white
09-26-2021, 08:50 AM
Then you lift or wreck,Like Kyle said on a slider you are taking a chance ,and hope they back off or go around,and if they do the slider on you then you lift,go around,or wreck

fastford
09-26-2021, 12:11 PM
Jabber,

That ranks up there with the most preposterous statement of the year.

Owens is right up there with T Mac on racing people as clean as possible and giving people room to race.

you are right , but like some one else said , the way these younger racers race these days , IDK if being nice wins races any more , but it dont matter , jimmy is having a sh!ty year and i guess his patients is running a little thin ......

Hoosier_Dirt
09-26-2021, 02:00 PM
☝☝ what Pennsboro32 said

Dirt Clod
09-26-2021, 02:31 PM
Watching the replay of the Jackson 100, it was refreshing to see how clean those final 11 laps were between Jimmy and Devin. Clean side by side racing, each driver holding their own lines, and no nasty slide jobs. Devin tried one with a lap or two to go, but made sure he had plenty of room. Unlike the Gilpin slider across your nose.

jr29
09-26-2021, 02:37 PM
What Pennsboro said.

chupp n bloomer fan
09-26-2021, 07:04 PM
Good, ya park it in front of him, run off the track, he really brakes to not run you over, then as you come back on you run into the side of him. Bravo Jimmy.

Bet Gilpin doesn’t try that on Jimmy again.

But sadly, it really is how a lot of them make passes now. So on one hand I don’t fault Gilpin, but man, time to regroup after ya screwed up like that. Not continue pi$$ing off Jimmy.

Krooser
09-27-2021, 02:58 PM
He slid up in front of Jimmy,and he did not have to run in the back of him,just turn under,and pass him back

I don't think Owens had time to react... things happen so fast.

At a certain age you just get sick of the sh*t you are having to deal with...

EvelB7
09-27-2021, 04:02 PM
It was not the first time he has done that to Jimmy and he needed to learn that it wasn't appreciated. He will most likely race Jimmy differently from this point on.....Sometimes you have to help someone change their approach to the way they race you, my guess he knows the limit with Jimmy from now on.

CIRF
09-27-2021, 04:59 PM
These incidents seem to be a good thing for dirt late model racing. Who actually won the race is secondary to who turned who or who put who in the wall!!

Barbecueboy
09-27-2021, 08:05 PM
Straight outa oakwood right there……..lmao.

But it’s true Cirf.

EvelB7
09-28-2021, 06:32 AM
Drama keeps everyone excited, not just in late models... I can't remember who won the night Hewitt screamed at the flagman either....

CIRF
09-28-2021, 08:49 AM
Drama keeps everyone excited, not just in late models... I can't remember who won the night Hewitt screamed at the flagman either....

I was at Mighty Macon that night, were you? IIRC Donnie Lehman won the A-main.

The difference is on track drama has a much lower probability of driver injury in the late model division as opposed to the division in which Jack was competing on the night he screamed at the flagman. I'm pretty sure the opportunity for bodily injury and his continued ability to earn money driving racecars was the major impetus for Jack's drama. Bent racecars and hurt feelings are one thing, broken bones and head injuries are altogether another.

EvelB7
09-28-2021, 09:14 AM
I was at Mighty Macon that night, were you? IIRC Donnie Lehman won the A-main.The difference is on track drama has a much lower probability of driver injury in the late model division as opposed to the division in which Jack was competing on the night he screamed at the flagman. I'm pretty sure the opportunity for bodily injury and his continued ability to earn money driving racecars was the major impetus for Jack's drama. Bent racecars and hurt feelings are one thing, broken bones and head injuries are altogether another.I agree, my point is that usually the winner is not the most exciting thing of the night (for most people I would guess...not all). Sammy Swindell leading the Nationals and having a flat tire, Wolfgang running the alphabet, heck in my own career my favorite memories are charging from the back as far up as I could get....On the other notion, Late Models are a lot more forgiving and allow for more contact than open wheel; probably why some had better stick to the Late Models! As for Jimmy, he races clean and wants others to race him the same way.

CIRF
09-28-2021, 10:57 AM
I agree, my point is that usually the winner is not the most exciting thing of the night (for most people I would guess...not all). Sammy Swindell leading the Nationals and having a flat tire, Wolfgang running the alphabet, heck in my own career my favorite memories are charging from the back as far up as I could get....On the other notion, Late Models are a lot more forgiving and allow for more contact than open wheel; probably why some had better stick to the Late Models! As for Jimmy, he races clean and wants others to race him the same way.

We agree on all counts, Evel. The only exception at this point in time is Kyle Larson. Bloomy used to command that kind of attention when he won, also. It seems when Larson wins on dirt anything that happened behind him is vastly overshadowed by his victory.

It seems Sammy transcends most everything else on the racetrack in every race he's in, even at his advanced age. The only time I get to see Sammy race throughout the year is at The Chili Bowl and it's clearly obvious there that he's the focal point in any race he competes in and 90% of all eyes are on him if he's running last, first or anywhere in between! He has provided drama for decades.

EvelB7
09-28-2021, 01:05 PM
We agree on all counts, Evel. The only exception at this point in time is Kyle Larson. Bloomy used to command that kind of attention when he won, also. It seems when Larson wins on dirt anything that happened behind him is vastly overshadowed by his victory.It seems Sammy transcends most everything else on the racetrack in every race he's in, even at his advanced age. The only time I get to see Sammy race throughout the year is at The Chili Bowl and it's clearly obvious there that he's the focal point in any race he competes in and 90% of all eyes are on him if he's running last, first or anywhere in between! He has provided drama for decades.Funny thing, growing up I absolutely hated Sammy; always a Wolfgang fan. However, I found myself pulling for him from the mid 2000's on. I was at the last Chili Bowl Sammy won, and I guess he is the last of the 'big three' still racing..... And obviously Larson is the real deal, Rumley is probably the best in setup but he will tell you how amazing Kyle is at learning new things.

Krooser
09-28-2021, 02:43 PM
I was at Mighty Macon that night, were you? IIRC Donnie Lehman won the A-main.

The difference is on track drama has a much lower probability of driver injury in the late model division as opposed to the division in which Jack was competing on the night he screamed at the flagman. I'm pretty sure the opportunity for bodily injury and his continued ability to earn money driving racecars was the major impetus for Jack's drama. Bent racecars and hurt feelings are one thing, broken bones and head injuries are altogether another.


One of the best all time YouTube videos...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIh34wZHDc

CIRF
09-28-2021, 05:53 PM
One of the best all time YouTube videos...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIh34wZHDc

Yep. Jack says despite him winning all 4 A-main's at the 1998 4 Crown Nationals at Eldora, being a National Sprint Car Hall of Fame inductee and qualifying 22nd for the 1998 Indy 500 finishing 12th he believes he's best known for that video at Macon. He's probably correct.