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wuss
09-13-2022, 05:05 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.

BTExpress
09-13-2022, 05:44 PM
SERIOUSLY??? Chill and enjoy the experience. Went to The Knoxville Nationals for the first time this year...Nothing like it. How the town embraces the fans and racers, the atmosphere etc. In all honestly it will probably be a better race cutting out 25 laps.....

Dirt Clod
09-13-2022, 06:05 PM
Dang Wuss, quit being a wuss. All this rant about losing 25 laps. How many times can you say 100 laps? Calm down. Don't have a nervous breakdown on 4M. As BTE says, it will probably be a better race. Go enjoy. I went to the All American 400 in Nashville when it was 400 laps. When they cut 100 laps and still called it the All American 400, I never went on a rant like yours. I went and enjoyed the race, which is now better at 300 laps!

Morgs153
09-13-2022, 06:22 PM
So, you get to watch the 49 lead 25 less laps. I feel your pain. Probably more the reason I would stay home and catch it on Flo is because the big shows are getting much too predictable this season. Not that I have any hate for 49, because I don't.

This will be the third year in a row I've missed going because of a wedding. I really want to go back to Knoxville. I miss the bakeries and butcher shops in Pella and bringing home a supply of Pella baloney.

For what it's worth, I'd favor keeping it at 100, even with a fuel stop.

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-13-2022, 06:24 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.

Should still be 100 and should still have no stop.

Raceready
09-13-2022, 06:27 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.Just think : If'n the main race gets spread out with no passing you will be able to leave the track earlier with the same results ? ? Think of the fuel and wear and tear the drivers are saving ! !

zer018
09-13-2022, 06:34 PM
If it’s going to be cut to less than 100 laps, don’t even consider this race as a “crown jewel”. The term that gets thrown around freely in todays dirt late model world. What a joke!

Raceready
09-13-2022, 06:51 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.The Pikers ! ! They owe you at least $3.75 back on what you paid for parking alone ! !

bloomy18018
09-13-2022, 07:18 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.

You’re complaining about dropping to 75laps? Not the fact that if there wasn’t some (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)ty filler class they’d only have 2 races on Saturday night …

cjsracing
09-13-2022, 08:02 PM
Should still be 100 and should still have no stop.

So you want cars running out of gas?

intel8
09-13-2022, 08:14 PM
Glad the fuel stop is gone, I could care less that it's only 75 laps, just want a competitive race.

fryefan
09-13-2022, 10:49 PM
That is a wise decision. Fuel stops ruins good races, more times than not.

Tireguy17
09-14-2022, 06:28 AM
Some people find the most ridiculous things to be outraged about.....number of laps in a feature is a new one.

JabberJaws83
09-14-2022, 08:58 AM
Fuel stops are as dumb as the cars look

gunner3584
09-14-2022, 11:00 AM
So you want cars running out of gas?


They did run 100 laps with no fuel stops at one point..

Racerfan X
09-14-2022, 11:24 AM
In the fine print of your ticket is this phrase "Event subject to change". Nuff said.

Josh Bayko
09-14-2022, 12:02 PM
There has never been a more appropriate username here.

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-14-2022, 01:50 PM
So you want cars running out of gas?

If they can't figure out how to make it, it's their problem. It used to be no issue. Why change the race to suit guys who changed what they brought to race?

IIRC one or 2 guys ran out one year, and boom, a fuel stop was added. Perhaps a couple racers had an issue, not the event itself.

Hoosier_Dirt
09-14-2022, 02:47 PM
I say cut it to 50. Usually not a very good race.

cjsracing
09-14-2022, 08:22 PM
If they can't figure out how to make it, it's their problem. It used to be no issue. Why change the race to suit guys who changed what they brought to race?

IIRC one or 2 guys ran out one year, and boom, a fuel stop was added. Perhaps a couple racers had an issue, not the event itself.

Back then we ran 32 gallon fuel cells. Now because of safety rules we run 28 or 26 gallon cells. Big difference.

Buford.Justice
09-14-2022, 09:43 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.

I'm with you 100%. They have been trying to shorten Knoxville 100 lappers for several years now. Finally got the nerve. Blame the drivers for the most part.

MasterSbilt_Racer
09-15-2022, 01:51 AM
Back then we ran 32 gallon fuel cells. Now because of safety rules we run 28 or 26 gallon cells. Big difference.

The change is not due to safety. They make 32 gallon cells that meet all the regulations. Rocket just doesn't install those and that was the reason a few fell short of the distance. That and the track was fast as hell and everyone runs bigger engines.

Josh Bayko
09-15-2022, 05:29 AM
The change is not due to safety. They make 32 gallon cells that meet all the regulations. Rocket just doesn't install those and that was the reason a few fell short of the distance. That and the track was fast as hell and everyone runs bigger engines.

Also, it usually has tack and is WFO.

nc mudcat
09-15-2022, 05:32 AM
Wow. Get there early, take in some practice laps and call it 100. It might make for a better race, maybe not. But it's not the end of the world.

WisWildManFan
09-15-2022, 07:02 AM
go to eldora next year instead and see 9 races on saturday instead of 3

dirtcrazy4u
09-16-2022, 05:03 AM
Knoxville's size, that black gumbo they race on, there on the floor a lot at that place. All these lead up to why it was shortened to 75 laps. A few changes to the carbs would probably let guys get to 100 laps. Jets and power valve sizing. Hey if you can't figure out what your motor needs to make 100 laps O well then, it's a part of racing. Not all the cars were running out of fuel. Hummm, it may even slow down the 49.

84wedge
09-16-2022, 11:42 AM
They aren't changing their cars to suit the track. Hence cancelling Brownstown earlier in the year.

RiffRaf67
09-16-2022, 11:57 AM
I dont goto dirt races to watch pit stops and the 410 Nationals is the only race that I will attend that has an announced red flag fuel stop. And I b*tch about it every time and wish they would do away with it. Kudos to knoxville for dropping the fuel stop in the late models and I wish they would listen to themselves and do away with it for the sprints too.
No sprint car race needs to be more than 30-35 laps and no late model race needs to be more than 40-50 laps.
Just IMO.

TerryM
09-16-2022, 02:39 PM
I agree with the OP. 100-lappers are becoming a thing of the past, because drivers are turning into sissies. And, as someone else said, this race isn’t losing crown jewel status — mostly because it never was a crown jewel to begin with. It’s just another Lucas race.

ZERO25
09-16-2022, 03:47 PM
I dont understand the draw for Knoxville.......just not a fan of big hammer down 1/2 milers!

And now, just one more reason!

weatherman85
09-16-2022, 03:57 PM
It’s not like this event produces great racing year in and year out. The only one that sticks out in my mind is the 2014 race that Birkhofer won and that was more down to mechanical issues for Bloomer then straight out racing. Still though, a fantastic finish!

Raceready
09-16-2022, 06:52 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.If'n They are cutting back 1/4 of the way, does that mean there will only a 3 wide pace lap instead of 4 wide ? ?

Pennsboro32
09-16-2022, 07:25 PM
I dont goto dirt races to watch pit stops and the 410 Nationals is the only race that I will attend that has an announced red flag fuel stop. And I b*tch about it every time and wish they would do away with it. Kudos to knoxville for dropping the fuel stop in the late models and I wish they would listen to themselves and do away with it for the sprints too.
No sprint car race needs to be more than 30-35 laps and no late model race needs to be more than 40-50 laps.
Just IMO.

Yeah let’s keep screwing the fans. While I don’t have a problem with them cutting this race 25 laps, DLM racing definitely needs the 100 lappers.

TerryM
09-16-2022, 07:32 PM
I agree about needing the 100-lappers. But it has to be the right 100-lappers. If it was my call, every race paying 20K+ would be 100 laps.

waaac77
09-18-2022, 07:07 AM
It’s the world we live in nowadays. Screw trying to be innovative and find ways to get the job done. Gotta change the rules and make it easier. If 100 laps is too much then don’t race. SMH. Racecar drivers are turning into little whiny teenage girls.

Rajflyboy
09-18-2022, 09:09 AM
Waaaac 77 is right

TDRacin®
09-18-2022, 04:14 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.

What do you think of 50 laps now?? lol

JimBo
09-18-2022, 04:17 PM
I want my money back from Flo now because of them cutting back to 50 laps. lol <sarcasm intended>

latemodelman
09-18-2022, 04:18 PM
lol thats why no fans show up. This race could be a big race with huge car counts if done right. Now its 50 laps but tires are JUNK. Well I was watching at East Alabama all day on flo and they had 300 cars and they had black top to bottom and was good racing.

TerryM
09-18-2022, 05:03 PM
They’ve (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)ed around all afternoon and now that they’re finally pulling cars on to the track, the rain is coming.

Oiler
09-18-2022, 05:32 PM
It's no wonder that Madden opted to skip the B and head for Kokomo ($60K and not hard on motors).

TerryM
09-18-2022, 05:44 PM
JD wins again.

JimBo
09-18-2022, 05:50 PM
Two bad for Bruening. I was rooting for him to win this cluster F of a race lol.

Hoosier_Dirt
09-18-2022, 06:22 PM
It was actually a pretty good race for all things considered. JD had to work for that one.

Raceready
09-18-2022, 09:49 PM
This is Sh#t. I know what you all will say....it eliminates a fuel stop. I would rather see 100 laps.I bought tickets already. I PAID FOR 100 LAPS. I have camping reservations already made thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. Parking is 15 bucks a night thinking I was going to get to see 100 laps. And the rest of money spent this week expecting 100 laps.I'm guessing drivers were complaining and they caved in to get a few extra cars. In my opinion, if you want to shorten the race, advertise it ahead of time. Not once you have already sold tickets for a 100 lap race. Announce it for next year. This is almost false advertising. I promise you I will not be back.You paid for !00lap and then it was cut plumb in half ? ? I would think you are entitled to 1/2 of your hard earned money back as a refund ! ! Whats this world coming to anyway ? ?

Mod Runner
09-18-2022, 09:52 PM
I bet Rocketshep was wishing it had been a 100 laps. He passed like 11 cars.