View Full Version : Dirt Late Model Chassis by decade.........
HoosierDirtFan
08-13-2023, 02:24 PM
After reading the "Mark Richards Copied Bullit Chassis" thread It made me think a bit of how many different chassis have there been over the years since the early - mid 1970's and decide to try and make a list by decade as to when each chassis came into existence and each builder(s).
Dirt Late Model Chassis by decade
1970's
Barry Wright Race Cars
CJ Rayburn Race Cars
Bernheisel (1978)
1980's
WRC - By Rodney Combs
American Made Racecars
Bullit Chassis
MasterSbilt Chassis
Custom Chassis
Rocket Chassis (1986)
Swartz (1987)
Warrior (1984)
Lazer (1988)
Zippo Chassis
Port City Race Cars
1990's
FAST by Jeff Treece
2000's
Bob Pierce Race Cars
Trak-Star (2006)
Victory Circle (2005)
2010's
Longhorn Chassis (2010)
Capitol Race Cars (2011)
Killer Chassis (2011)
Black Diamond Chassis (2013)
Dominator Chassis by Schlenk (2018)
Punisher Chassis (2018)
2020's
BMF (2022)
Double Nickel (2022)
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What year did these chassis officially come out?
American Made
CJ Rayburn Race Car
CVR Race Cars
Dominator - Schlenk
Kryptonite Chassis
Longhorn Chassis
MB Custom
Pierce Race Cars
Sniper Chassis
Team Zero Bloomquist
Howe Race Cars
Bopp Race Cars
Jig-a-lo Chassis
Southwest Speed
Tri-City Buggy
TNT Race Cars
Larry Phillips Race Cars
Larry Shaw Racecars
GRT Race Cars
Buschwacker - Walter Newman
Stinger Race Cars
Club 29 Race Cars
28 Special Race Cars
Scorpion Chassis
Roughrider Chassis
Cheetah Race Cars
ect.....
SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
08-13-2023, 02:30 PM
Rayburn did it right, first. Not sure when though...
Im thinking this may or may not be fox approved.
We'll see.
HoosierDirtFan
08-13-2023, 02:37 PM
Rayburn did it right, first. Not sure when though...
Im thinking this may or may not be fox approved.
We'll see.
LMAO. That is laughable. I just enjoy talking racing with others.
foxfire2dirtracing
08-13-2023, 03:46 PM
SS- it’s okay with me 😀!
SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
08-13-2023, 03:49 PM
Ok, you have the go-ahead HDF. So, go ahead!
Highside Hustler25
08-13-2023, 04:03 PM
Pierce Race Cars > early 2000's.
Masterbuilt 1982 per their Facebook page
foxfire2dirtracing
08-13-2023, 04:17 PM
Who was the very first late model Chassis fabricator ? Seems like I heard years ago it might have been Boscoe Lowe??
Highside Hustler25
08-13-2023, 04:20 PM
Who was the very first late model Chassis fabricator ? Seems like I heard years ago it might have been Boscoe Lowe??
Something most don't know. Barney Rubble.
SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
08-13-2023, 04:29 PM
GM, Chrysler, Ford and a few other were the first.
lurker
08-13-2023, 04:35 PM
Nathan, add these to your list.
Howe
Bopp
Jig-a-lo
Southwest Speed
Tri-City Buggy
Larry Phillips Race Cars
All from the late 70’s early 80’s and all made dirt cars at that timeframe.
lurker
08-13-2023, 04:50 PM
American Made Racecars - 1989 I think.
That is if we are taking about the same one (Joplin Mo.) brothers Denny and Danny Felker. Dad had a salvage yard. Denny was working for Larry Phillips in 1988 and Danny started building chassis in 1989 if my memory is correct.
lurker
08-13-2023, 04:57 PM
GM, Chrysler, Ford and a few other were the first.
Mopar did have Volare full tube frame kit car specifically for oval racing in the late 70’s.
lurker
08-13-2023, 05:02 PM
Add -
Black Diamond
Capitol
lurker
08-13-2023, 05:03 PM
Longhorn Chassis - 2010
lurker
08-13-2023, 05:11 PM
Add-
Larry Shaw Racecars
GRT
SLlDlNG SIDEWAYS
08-13-2023, 05:30 PM
https://www.motortrend.com/features/remembering-good-old-days-racing/
Highside Hustler25
08-13-2023, 06:11 PM
Black Diamond around 2013
Capitol 2011
Dominator 2018
Henry Every
08-13-2023, 06:23 PM
Barry Wright, est. 1977
Henry Every
08-13-2023, 06:27 PM
CJ Rayburn was 1977
Henry Every
08-13-2023, 06:27 PM
Custom Chassis (Frank McClendon was early 80's)
zyoung25
08-13-2023, 06:33 PM
https://www.dirtfans.com/JonOsman.html
The story on the first Rayburn car ever built is at the bottom. Jon is a personal friend of mine.
Morgs153
08-13-2023, 10:22 PM
Right around 1980 there were still guys running chassis brands that were also selling to asphalt racers. There was still just a little crossover going on but that was pretty much gone by 1982 and the specialized divergent pathways were shaping up.
Howe was a very big seller both ways. Ray Dillon built the Tri City Aluminum cars that were run by Buck Simmons and Larry Moore besides a whole slug of asphalt cars (many in ASA). Mike Randerson had success with his Randercar chassis with Pete Parker. Dennis Frings was a low volume but very meticulous builder of asphalt, dirt, and even Trans Am type cars back then. Bill Beminster had the BEMCO brand cars. Boyce Trackburner Chassis was popular in the Illinois region on both surfaces as well.
Around that time as well, WRC by Rodney Combs.
dirtcrazy4u
08-14-2023, 04:49 AM
Martz chassis out of bedford, pa. Zemakis, east coast builder. I no I have that name wrong hopefully someone can correct.
This exact reason is why I give a tip of the hat to that little shop up on the hill in W.V. The guy keeps putting out cars year after year. He has definitely been doing it longer than anyone.
dirtybird73
08-14-2023, 06:52 AM
A few more to add to the list:
Buschwacker/Walter Newman
Trak-Star(2006)
Swartz(1987)
Stinger
Club 29
Warrior(1984)
Victory Circle(2005)
TNT
BMF(2022)
Bernheisel(1978)/Lazer(1988)
Punisher(2018)
28Special
Double Nickel(2022)
Killer Chassis(2011)
Scorpion
EvelB7
08-14-2023, 07:09 AM
Midwest had Ed Sanger in the 70's; also (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) Schiltz (father of Dirtwrap owner Jimmy Schiltz) built chassis as well. 80's had Zip Lekander building Zippo Chassis (Johnny Johnson set fast time in Florida with one).
ride height
08-14-2023, 07:18 AM
Wasn’t there a Jig-A-Lo chassis ? I want to say in the 70’s.
84wedge
08-14-2023, 01:47 PM
Early 80s Jr. Hanley was making them as well.
over4T
08-14-2023, 02:03 PM
Casey's Auto Salvage, in Iowa, built some pretty nice cars in late '90s-early 2000s.
Add:
Roughrider out of Southern Ohio, if memory serves, believe the Cline family??
FAST by Jeff Treece, late 90's early 2000's. The one I had was around a 2001
Port City Race Cars was doing a dirt version of their chassis in the 80's, and early 90's. Pretty certain none ever went out of the state of Michigan. My dad drove them, and I took one to rookie of the year at my home track in 1993.
zyoung25
08-14-2023, 07:58 PM
Cheetah Race Cars.
MB_Racer might be able to give the story on those. I think they got tangled up in a lawsuit with one of other chassis manufacturers. I was too young to remember what the rise and fall of those were.
HoosierDirtFan
08-15-2023, 02:33 AM
Original post has been updated.
bleedblue55
08-15-2023, 05:14 AM
Rocket Chassis was started in 1986
LugNutz
08-15-2023, 07:24 AM
Gary Oliver Tri-City Buggy
MasterSbilt_Racer
08-15-2023, 08:11 AM
Cheetah Race Cars.
MB_Racer might be able to give the story on those. I think they got tangled up in a lawsuit with one of other chassis manufacturers. I was too young to remember what the rise and fall of those were.
I don't really know a lot about that deal. They tried to get me in one, but I bought the proprietor's mastersbilt instead. They started out buying unfinished chassis from Rayburn. I'm assuming that arrangement went south.
Morgs153
08-15-2023, 10:16 AM
MB Customs came out in 2008
foxfire2dirtracing
08-15-2023, 11:04 AM
Still hoping someone will post who the very first custom ( non-factory) Chasis builder was?
TowerView
08-15-2023, 11:42 AM
Tucker 1980/81 started
Henry Every
08-15-2023, 04:11 PM
Still hoping someone will post who the very first custom ( non-factory) Chasis builder was? When you say "custom", do you mean just a modified frame or a full tube chassis? I think either Ed Howe or Rayburn were the first full tube, but I'm not sure. Jig-A-Lo by Jimmy Thomas was pretty early with his chassis, 76 or 77.
KTMLew
08-15-2023, 04:29 PM
When you say "custom", do you mean just a modified frame or a full tube chassis? I think either Ed Howe or Rayburn were the first full tube, but I'm not sure. Jig-A-Lo by Jimmy Thomas was pretty early with his chassis, 76 or 77.
Believe both Rayburn and Howe were building Asphalt chassis first and don't believe Howe ever built a dirt specific chassis. The OG Howe were designated as X-design. 1/2/3 were cages built on Chevelle stock frame. 4th design was what is now basically a mod chassis but used Camaro front stub. 5th was optional fabbed/Camaro front clip. 6th was 100% fabbed. Last one i am aware of, that followed that path, was 6th design. Once Rodney Combs moved South, taking Mark Richards with him, WRC was the "dirt division". And I haunted the WRC shop a ton back then.
foxfire2dirtracing
08-15-2023, 04:45 PM
I was referring to full tube frames. I am thinking I was told a few years ago is was Boscoe/Roscoe Lowe or could have been Smith. I just remember it wasn’t Rayburn, Ed Howe, Jig a low or those names more recognizable. I have slept a few nights since I asked him. He’s 87 and in the Hall of Fame at Florence- but I am really curious as to the correct answer.
Morgs153
08-15-2023, 05:01 PM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1112656272094601/
The link is for the old Bemco Engineering Chassis of Wausau WI. If you check it out there's a lot of great photos of old late models. Now there were a lot of asphalt customers for BEMCO for sure but there were also many dirt late models built by them back in the 70s and there's some photos of them in the link (Pete Parker, Tom Steuding, Darrell Dake, Roger Regeth and others). I know BEMCO was building a full fab tube chassis (not based on a stock stub) back in the early to mid 70s when Ed Howe was still building off a reworked stock stub.
KTMLew
08-15-2023, 05:49 PM
If this link works some info about Howe from around 1977-80.
https://public.fotki.com/outlaw-ford/howe-racing-enterprises/howe-2nd-design.html#media
KTMLew
08-15-2023, 05:58 PM
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/racingjunkgallery.internetbrands.com-gallery_site/600x337_85-1/phpbngv5z_8aefc09e9ab0e60575dee987fae3c95ec1295101 .jpeg
Wild looking "J-bar".
KTMLew
08-15-2023, 06:05 PM
https://www.speednik.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/01/tech-the-air-force-2018-04-02_16-36-42_868275.jpg
KTMLew
08-15-2023, 06:13 PM
https://www.dirtfans.com/RodneyCombs.html
fastford
08-15-2023, 06:36 PM
to post 27 , the jig-a-lo chassis was built by the thomas clan out of phenix city alabama , it was basically a copy of howe,s stuff . During that era , there was only a few innovators and not many rules , so these innovators made big changes to there stuff and could a lot easier than today , stumble onto speed , then every one that wanted to build there own chassis just copied them , cars are so similar today , there's not much left to innovate ......
KTMLew
08-15-2023, 06:43 PM
to post 27 , the jig-a-lo chassis was built by the thomas clan out of phenix city alabama , it was basically a copy of howe,s stuff . During that era , there was only a few innovators and not many rules , so these innovators made big changes to there stuff and could a lot easier than today , stumble onto speed , then every one that wanted to build there own chassis just copied them , cars are so similar today , there's not much left to innovate ......
To add, Howe had no problem building partial chassis either. Get it without suspension mounting points and do your own thing. Kinda like Bullit did for Mark Richards. I don't know if the Bullit/Rocket stuff was a "complete" chassis or not? Did Mark finish any of the suspension mounts? I had opened my own automotive shop in 1983 and wasn't as involved for 4-5 years.
foxfire2dirtracing
08-15-2023, 08:20 PM
Just talked with my Hall of Fame friend: he thinks Clint Smith’s dad might have been one of the first chassis guys??
Anyone else have an idea?
Looking at that Rodney Combs Dirt Fans 101 link reminded me of another one. James Ince dabbled in the DLM chassis business as well, early 2000's.
KTMLew
08-16-2023, 12:41 PM
Looking at that Rodney Combs Dirt Fans 101 link reminded me of another one. James Ince dabbled in the DLM chassis business as well, early 2000's.
I know I tend to semi-hijack things but I take info from whatever I see. So I post links to stuff that MIGHT inform someone. May not be 100% on topic but somewhat relevant. Maybe?
For sure KTMLew. This thread is a lot of fun for me. I worked for AFCO Racing from 1996 thru 2010 and encountered many upstart builders along the way trying to break in. Bringing back a lot of memories. I'm sure, dependent on how long this thread lasts, more will come to mind.
And one just did..lol. Lou Fegers Racing built dirt late models, and was a player in Wissota land during that era. Not certain if they are still building chassis or not.
Jim11h
08-17-2023, 11:09 AM
Boss chassis late 90s early 2000s.
Proven chassis outta Michigan
There's another one in Ohio currently running outta Zanesville area I believe. He shows up at Attica couple times year
Flinstone Flyer by Mike Duvall
MRE Chassis
KTMLew
08-17-2023, 01:46 PM
Boss chassis late 90s early 2000s.
Proven chassis outta Michigan
There's another one in Ohio currently running outta Zanesville area I believe. He shows up at Attica couple times year
Guy from Zanesville had a YouTube Channel and was showing his chassis construction. Channel went dark during Covid. From what I've heard just got too busy with life to mess with the YT stuff. Can't remember name of channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygfRPWF6nH4
Jim11h
08-17-2023, 03:52 PM
Toma is Boss I first mentioned. Cool video, thanks.
There's another one though running around, punisher maybe? Thought was Zanesville/ midway area but could be wrong
jcotton02
08-18-2023, 08:11 AM
Rocket Chassis started in 1991. Mark Richards Racing Ent. started in 1886 doing Bullitt cars.
KTMLew
08-18-2023, 10:16 AM
Rocket Chassis started in 1991. Mark Richards Racing Ent. started in 1886 doing Bullitt cars.
Seems Mark is even older than I thought.
foxfire2dirtracing
08-18-2023, 10:46 AM
Still hoping someone knows te “very first” tubular Chasis builder ????
Highside Hustler25
08-18-2023, 10:53 AM
^
That's what I thought this thread was about but it has gotten a little out of hand.
Morgs153
08-19-2023, 04:46 PM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Dennis-Frings-Race-Cars/100069075159050/
Here's another page to look at for some info. Dennis Frings was a low volume but very particular builder of asphalt and dirt cars in the 70s and 80s (along with Trans Am cars). He maintains a Facebook page with some history of his cars and his commentary. He was building full tube cars in the mid 70s and building coil over cars before most everyone as well. In the photos on this site link you'll see that he built a dirt late model for Delmas Conley in the late 70s.
The car that Dennis Frings built for Delmas Conley was the fast qualifier for the 1976 World 100 out of 134 cars by the way.
TNDirt
08-20-2023, 09:52 AM
Sniper came out around 2021
over4T
08-20-2023, 02:18 PM
Dennis Frings should be in every Hall of Fame relating to motorsports. The beast he built for the great Larry Detjens in the '70s alone should qualify him. Larry won some 26 races in the first couple of months with it , from the very tough Wisconsin tracks to California where I got to see it. Dennis built LeMans cars, dirt cars, asphalt cars and everyone was a winner. Awesome and innovative builder.
dirtybird73
08-21-2023, 07:10 AM
Revelution Chassis(2011)
Viking Chassis(2014?)
fastford
08-21-2023, 04:23 PM
^
That's what I thought this thread was about but it has gotten a little out of hand.
there is no one alive that can answer fox,s question , you would have to go back to the first automobiles that raced , which was on dirt , and figure out who put the first roll cage in one , thats where it has all evolved from , call it a late model or what ever .....
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